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he talks about net neutrality. he is reviewed by technology reporter. >> the priority now is to get net neutrality in statute and finalized once and for all after 15 years of watching this issue ping-pong back-and-forth between fcc commissioner. i think the public overwhelmingly supports net neutrality rules and wants to see certainty and permanents done to the issue. 8:00nday night at eastern on c-span two. debated a nonbinding resolution calling for special counsel robert mueller toort to be made available the public. debate only, i yield the customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from georgia, mr.
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woodall. pending which i yield myself such time as i may consume. during consideration for this -- of this resolution, all time yielded for is the r for the purposes of debate only. i ask unanimous consent that all members may have five legislative days to revise and extend their remarks to rent. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. the gentleman is recognized. mr. desaulnier: mr. speaker, on monday the rules committee met and reported a rule, house resolution 208, providing for consideration of house concurrent resolution 24, a resolution expressing the sense of congress that the report of special counsel mueller and the sense of congress that that special counsel should be made available to the public and to congress. the rule provides for consideration of the legislation under closed rule. the rule self-executes two amendments that simply clarify that the resolution is calling for the release of the special counsel's findings in addition to any report.
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it provides one hour of debate equally divided and controlled by the chair and ranking member of the judiciary committee. finally the rule provides a standard recess procedures for the period of march 15 through march 22. . when the justice department special counsel, rod rosenstein said it's necessary for the american people to have full confidence in the outcome. our nation is grounded in the rule of law and the public must be assured that government officials administer the law fairly. this investigation has been about following the facts, wherever they may lead, getting to the truth of russia's involvement in the 2016 election, and ensuring government is transparent and accountable to the american public. this resolution does not of thatmine the outcome
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investigation. it simply expresses that the report of the special counsel should be made available to the congress and the american people. the public, including my constituents in california, our constituents in california, mr. speaker, want to know what happened. nearly nine in 10 americans in both parties say the investigation should produce a full public report on their findings. not only do the american people want to know, but they deserve to know. congress needs to preserve their ability to know. our election system is an integral part of what makes us the beacon of western democracy. any and all attempts to undermine this system is an attack on our country's values and cannot be taken lightly. this is a serious investigation with consequences for elections, democracy, government, and the future of this country and democracy itself. there is no one with more intimate knowledge of russia's
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involvement in our election than special counsel. to date, this investigation has resulted in 34 people and three companies being criminally charged. nearly 200 charges filed. seven guilty pleas. one conviction following a jury trial. and the investigation, while costing $25 million, has recovered approximately $48 million in assets from tax evasion. mr. speaker, eight federal and congressional intelligence and national security groups believe russia interfered in our election. with the central intelligence agency, the national security agency, the f.b.i., the office of the director of national intelligence concluding that vladimir putin personally, quote, ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the u.s. presidential election to undermine public faith in the democratic process, end quotes. the last time our country has
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special counsel operating under the same rules as this probe was in 1993 to investigate the waco siege and allegations of government wrongdoing. prosecutors posted their final report directly on the internet with hundreds of pages of exhibits and timelines. the american people must receive the same transparency when this report is released. i encourage my friends across the aisle to support the release of this report. we have commitments to support it from three house republican leaders, including the minority leader, the minority whip and the republican conference chair, and i hope all of my colleagues across the aisle will join us in this vote to ensure that we are on the record, that we share one of the most important investigations of our time within these halls and with all of america. this is happening on our watch and it is our job to be faithful
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to our oath to defend and uphold democracy. as justice brandeis famously said, sunlight is said to be the des disinfect -- disinfectant. -- said to be the best disinfectant. thank you, mr. speaker. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from georgia. mr. woodall: i thank my friend for yielding the time. mr. speaker, when i see someone of your stature coming to the chair, i think we are down here to debate some serious american policy. we must be down here to change the law in ways that can only happen once in a generation when people come together to make things happen. and i don't know what they told you when they came to the chair this morning, but let me the first to tell you, that's not at all why we're here today. what we're here today to say is important, that the american people have a vested interest in confidence in our democracy. that's a value shared from the furthest side of the left to the furthest side of the right, but the resolution we have before us today is just a restatement of
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current law. sometimes i think, mr. speaker, that we undermine faith in the democracy, when we try to pretend that division exists where division does not, where we try to pretend we're doing great things when in fact we are not. this is an opportunity today to speak with a voice in congress that says the independent counsel -- sorry -- the special counsel should release the report. but let me be clear, because we sometimes do more harm than good. that's going to be the headline. house votes for independent -- for special counsel to release the point. that's not actually what the resolution says. i want to guide you. if you got a copy, mr. chairman, you can go back through -- it's not going to be on page 1. it's not going to be on page 2 or 3 or 4 or 5. the real substance of the resolution is back on page -- bottom page 5, early on page 6. and it says, to the extent permitted by law.
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because as you know from your legal background, mr. speaker, the law does not allow the special counsel to release so many things. grand jury testimony, for example, nowhere in the country is grand jury testimony disclosed. those facts are gathered, but that's never disclosed. intelligence sources and methods, that's never disclosed. nor would anybody on the other side of the aisle suggest that it should be. that's why in the resolution drafted by the democratic chairman of the judiciary committee, it says specifically, these things shall not be released. need not be released because it's prohibited by law. i only make that point, mr. chairman, because sometimes the headlines are all we read when they come through on our twitter feed. sometimes the headline, we believe, tells the whole story. i just want to make it clear that there's unanimity in this chamber that transparent is valuable in our republic. but it is also true that this is
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a nation of laws. the reason the special counsel exists is because we're a nation of law, and the substance of the special counsel's report is going to be governed by those laws. and to the extent allowable by law, our attorney general has already said, he wants to make the entire thing available. i don't know how you want to characterize the resolution today, mr. speaker. whether you want to characterize it as an insistence of the house on how the administration should behave or just a big attaboy to our new attorney general to say you're doing great job and we're behind you 100% in what you already promised the american people you were going to do. however you characterize that resolution, we heard it in the rules committee, as my friend from california suggested. it's coming to the floor today under a closed rule. so if anybody has any additional changes they want to take, they can't do it. this is a take it or leave it
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resolution from the rules committee today, but as a restatement of current law, it's quite clear. again, you have to go all the way back to the resolution to find those 10 lines of substance, but when you get there, you'll find these are already things the attorney general has agreed to and all americans should be pleased about that outcome. with that i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from georgia reserves. the gentleman from california is recognized. mr. desauliner: well, first off, let me join in my friend from georgia noting how important it is that you are presiding, my good friend, with lots of history between the two of us in our political life in california and our education, i might add, to the jesuits, and i want to say to my good friend, i look at this as one of those opportunities where we may not get a headline. unfortunately, too many of the headlines talk about how divisive it is here and certainly there's a lot of that, but when i go home and do town halls and do i a lot of them in northern california, when this
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question comes up about polarization, i talk about all the times we do work together that don't get out, certainly in the headlines, because that's not what sells advertising, apparently. i think this is one of those moments we aspire to that, that we actually aspire somebody picks up on this, that all of us in these extraordinary circumstances are being faithful to our oath, that we make sure the things that may have happened, that apparently did happen, that the public that needs confidence of us and we look at every day, including today at the attacks on so many institutions in america, and this institution having had challenges, this might be one of those opportunities, at least for us, to say we agree. we may have differences of opinion about who did what, but we have faith. and for me, i think history will say this special counsel is one of those providential americans. with his background, with his determination to believe in
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fidelity and truth, we were lucky to have this person at this point in time. so i put my faith in this institution. i put the faith in special counsel, and in this instance, i really hear from you, my friend from georgia, that we're going to put our faith in this institution and one another, that we can show the american people that this is indeed more important than party. it's more important than any of our individual political careers. i did want to mention, mr. speaker, that this is a sense of congress. this is not the first time we have brought a resolution like this to the floor. in fact, just last week, we brought a resolution to the floor to send a message to the american people that congress is united in condemning anti-semitism and bigotry in all its forms. there were people who criticized us for bringing that. thought it was unnecessary. but when we brought that to the floor, a majority of republicans joined democrats, an overwhelming majority, in voting for it. leader mccarthy called it a resolution to make a statement.
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whip scalise said, regarding the resolution, we must take a strong stand against hatred and bigotry wherever we see it, and i'm glad this resolution makes sense. so we agree with our bletion on the other side of the aisle -- colleagues on the other side of the aisle, that passing these resolutions can make a strong statement. although they may seem to some as unnecessary, these statements and these kind of important issues, i believe, are very necessary for this institution to take and particularly when they are bipartisan. today, we are letting attorney general barr and everyone else know that we are all united behind one common principle, by i believe he agrees to in his confirmation hearings, that the member from georgia alluded to, that transparenty, complete transparency is vital, consistent with the law, to the success of our democracy. and if the american people deserve to have access to this report -- and that the american people deserve to have access to this report.
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mr. speaker, i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the distinguished gentleman from california reserves. the distinguish gentleman from georgia is recognized. mr. woodall: thank you, mr. speaker. i'd like to yield seven minutes to a senior member of the rules committee, subcommittee chairman, ranking member on the committee, mmerce dr. burgess. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for seven minutes. mr. burgess: thank you for yielding. today i rise in opposition to the rule providing for consideration of h.con.res 24, to release the special counsel's investigation report, a report that i may note has not yet been issued. the resolution we're considering here today will not change the law. it will not increase transparency. it will provide no new benefit to the american people. quite simply, this resolution merely states current law. this resolution simply restates current department of justice
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protocol. we had a member in this house who is a physician, a member of the other party, former congressman mcdermott of washington state, and i remember one time republicans offered a sense of congress resolution that had something to do with taxes. the gentleman took to the floor of the house and said, if you want to do something about taxes, do something about taxes. but a sense of congress resolution, you might as well be sending a get well card to the i.r.s. so that's the force with which we are exercising our congressional time today. as speaker pelosi and the democratic leadership decided to use valuable legislative time to consider a resolution that changes nothing. it does not serve the american people. the time that we have spent debating this resolution, we could have been discussing more
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serious matters before this body and let's run through a few of them. the born alive abortion survivors protection act has been brought to the floor 17 times, and yet the current democratic leadership refuses to bring up this legislation up for a vote. i might remind the body, this bill is not about abortion, but saving the lives of children who are in fact born alive. you know, i don't make it a habit of watching "60 minutes" on television, but last sunday night, "60 minutes" had a news story on the dramatic advances in the treatment and perhaps, perhaps inching towards a cure for sickle cell disease. sickle cell disease is a painful condition, i witnessed many times at a resident at parkland hospital back in the 1970's. for years sickle cell received
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very little attention. now, i'm happy to say in the last congress, to the leadership of danny davis of illinois, our subcommittee worked on and passed his resolution, dealing with sickle cell. it finally was passed by the senate in october of last year, and it was signed into law by the president last december. . as a consequence the push for sickle cell research has continued. the cures for the 21st century, which this congress worked on in the previous -- at the end of the previous administration, certainly can be given some credit for that. but it was -- i have to tell you what is dramatic to have the director of the n.i.h. interviewed on "60 minutes" talking about a cure for sickle cell. our work we do here is important. it does impact the lives of real people. i think that is just one dramatic example. well, another example was the
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first tax reform in 31 years. signed into law last year here we're a month out from tax day. we could use this time to strengthen the progress we made on the tax reform that was passed last year in the last congress we helped american people keep morer of their hard-earned money. we should work to continue that momentum. making them permanent for the middle class. we could be discussing the democrats' government-run bureaucratic topdown health care plan that would strip hardworking americans of their private health insurance and offer less coverage at more expense to american taxpayers. but we're not. today we could be talking about patent abuse entities, patent trolls, particularly troublesome in the eastern district of texas where most those cases are litigated. the house could consider the
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troll act legislation i introduced for three terms of congress to limit entities and protect americans' intellectual property. we could be using this time to discuss our nation's critical need for border security to protects the american people and defend our borders. in february of 2019, the shortest month of the year, only 28 days more than 75,000 people that we know of, crossed the border without legal status. excess of 100% increase from the same period last year. people argue whether that's an emergency. i believe that it is. we could be talking about that. in a week which more than 150 people lost their lives, we could be using this time to discuss aviation safety and does congress need to do anything further to ensure the continued safety of the american traveling public?
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time and again we found that members on the other side of the dais are far more interested in discrediting the president than working on policy that will help the american people. this president, during the first two years and two months of this administration, has probably been more productive than any presidency in the last 50 years. finally, mr. speaker, we could be using this time to address the false and misleading comments that a member of the judiciary committee made about the department of health and human services. last month the member of this house grossly mischaracterized the work being done by the department of health and human services to care for unaccompanied alien children by stating that the office of refugee resettlement created quoting here an environment of systemic sexual assaults by health and human service staff on unaccompanied alien children, close quote.
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mr. speaker, that accusation is false. it was made without that member having ever actually visited a facility. those comments are discredit to the effort by dedicated personnel of the office of refugee resettlement. those employees to deal with the problem that dates back to the obama administration when the office of refugee resettlement was unprepared for the task. if democrats -- would the gentleman yield an additional minute? mr. woodall: two minutes. mr. burgess: if you don't like the work the office of refugee reset manyment are doing, you are in the majority. you have the ability to introduce legislation and pass legislation to do something different. instead of standing here today discussing this superfluous resolution, the democrats could be using this time to change a law that they clearly don't like.
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at this point, mr. speaker, may i ask unanimous consent to place into the record a letter from the agency of children with families. regarding this issue. re's the bottom line, that unanimous consent agreed to? house democrats do not like the president of the united states. we know that. less than three months into the 116th congress, the democrats have shown they will work against president trump to the detriment of the american people. we're here in the united states house of representatives to serve the american people. and the legislation we're considering here today will not do that. president trump has purged us at the state of the union asked all members present to reject the politics of revenge, resistance, and retribution and embrace the bountless potential of cooperation, compromise -- boundless potential of cooperation, compromise, and common good. i also believe this is possible and recommend we get on with the task. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore:
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congressman from georgia reserve? the gentleman reserves. the chair recognizes the gentleman from california. mr. desaulnier: thank you, mr. speaker. it's an honored to be recognized by you. mr. speaker, i yield one minute to the gentlewoman from california, the distinguished chair of the committee on house administration, ms. lofgren. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from california is recognized. ms. lofgren gren: i rise in support of this resolution today. we have a responsibility to the american people to uphold the constitution and rule of law. we also have an obligation as a separate and equal branch of government to act as a check on the executive branch. without access to necessary information, we can't fulfill our actually prescribed duties. we must have not only this report, but the evidence collected to support the report. if the president has nothing to hide, then he will also support this resolution by tweet or verbal approval. i am proud to be a co-sponsor
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of this resolution. it's very important for our country. i yield back to the gentleman from california. the speaker pro tempore: reserves. the gentleman from georgia is recognized. mr. woodall: mr. speaker, i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from california is recognized. mr. desaulnier: thank you. mr. speaker, i yield two minutes to the gentleman from rhode island, the distinguished chairman of the committee on the judiciary subcommittee on antitrust, commercial, and administrative law, mr. cicilline. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from rhode island is recognized. mr. cicilline: i thank the gentleman for yielding. mr. speaker, i rise in strong support of this resolution. special counsel mueller's investigation has resulted in 199 criminal charges against 39 people and entities. seven people have pleaded guilty and five people have been sentenced to prison. this investigation has been conducted on behalf of the american people. and they are entitled to know the results of this investigation. this investigation was begun to
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safeguard our democracy. and the american people deserve to know the results of this investigation. president trump has repeatedly sought to attack and discredit the investigation. labeling it a witch-hunt and contemplating firing the special counsel. the president's pick for attorney general bill barr has made it clear during his confirmation hearing will he only follow d.o.j. policies convenient for the president. therefore it's up to congress to make sure that documents related to the special counsel's investigation are preserved and publish. that's why i introduced the special counsel transparency act with congressman doggett to acquire the publication of the report. no one person should decide what the public gets to see. the american people have a right to come to their cone conclusions and know justice was served. i urge my colleagues to vote in favor of the american people. allow them to see the results of the investigation conducted their -- on their bea bring transparency to this process, support the resolution, and signal a willingness to respect the right of the american
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people to see the consequences anti-results of this important investigation which again was begun to safeguard our democracy. this shouldn't be a republican or democratic issue. i hope my colleagues on the other side of the aisle will join us in our effort to preserve our democratcy. with it i -- our democrat swifment that i yield back. -- democracy. with that i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the chair recognizes the gentleman from georgia. mr. woodall: i yield myself such time as i may consume. i want to ask my friend from rhode island before he left the floor, the bill that you introduced was that also a house resolution or h.r. to insist on the revealing? i yield. mr. cicilline: the legislation i introduced is an h.r. but if the point of your question is that a more effective way to do it, i would welcome support on my resolution. i haven't been as successful getting my republican colleagues to join us. we're hoping this resolution is a way for to you find your way to a transparency, democracy, and the spirit of bipartisanship. and letting the american people know the result.
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mr. woodall: i appreciate him introducing the bill. i think that's an important distinction, mr. speaker. that's what you have heard largely. you heard it in the rules committee. you heard it down here on the floor. is that there are lots of things we could be doing here. and if we wanted to pass a law that insisted that the entire report was released, those parts that are prohibited from being released under current law and those parts intended to be released under current law, we could do that. that's just not what we're doing. what we're doing is saying you know what current law is? follow current law. follow current law. we the house of representatives have thought about it and in our deliberative wisdom we're prepared to announce that we believe current law should be followed. signed u.s. house of representatives. there are those who would have you believe this is something more than that. it's not. nothing wrong with what we're doing today except that it's not a particularly valuable use of time. when i opened, mr. speaker, you were not in the chair i mentioned i think we do great
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damage to trust in your-u our republic when we seek division instead of highlighting our unity. to suggest that we're down here doing something to protect our republic from its inevitable demise is just ridiculous. no such thing is happening here on the floor today. all that's happening on the floor today is we're saying we the duly elected members of the u.s. house of representatives believe u.s. law should be followed. i agree. and i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the chair recognizes the gentleman from california. mr. desaulnier: in response to my friend from georgia, i want to agree and maybe we disagree a little bit. i do think this is important. and i think it's the unusual circumstances. a lot of us -- a lot of things that we have no control -- direct control over have brought us to this circumstance. social media and the use of social media in our elections is relatively new coming from the bay area where so much of this was the genesis happened.
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i think it is important. in think there's lacking hyperbole is something that sometimes doesn't happen in this chamber, but i think it's not high ber poely to say -- hyperbole that the u.s. house says the law should be followed to its letter. i think we agree. i don't want to look for a way to disagree. with that i now ask, mr. speaker, i yield two minutes to the gentleman from vermont, mr. welch. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from vermont is recognized. mr. welch: i thank the gentleman. mr. speaker, i don't he know what's in the mueller report. neither do you. the 34er7b people -- american people don't know what's in the mueller report, but they want to know. and i want to know, as you do. and why not? 81% of the american people polled say they want to know. that includes 79% of the
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republicans. that's good news. because what we do know without knowing the details of the mueller report is that really bad stuff happened in the last election. some of it was in a campaign. and some of it was in a foreign country that is our severe adversary. i speak, of course, of vladimir putin's russia. but the bad stuff, a former campaign foreign policy advisor, indicted and convicted. a former campaign manager, on his way to jail, mr. manafort. a former campaign aid and manafort's long-time junior business partner, indicted. a former foreign policy national security advisor pleaded guilty, mr. flynn. this is high levels of a campaign where crimes are not
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just being discussed. there have been convictions and guilty pleas. what's behind all of that? we need to know. incidentally, mr. speaker, the american people are footing the bill for this. about $25 million as far as we can tell. they've got a right to know. but in addition to whatever happened in the campaign, really bad stuff happened in russia. we know from our own intelligence agencies that russia made a concerted effort and determined effort and well financed effort to interfere in our election. nother minute. mr. desaulnier: an additional 30 seconds. mr. welch: outside interference goes to the heart of our democracy. the most important challenge for our country is that we, the
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citizens of this country, make the decision on who is our president. who are our senators, who are our representatives. we have to get to the bottom of what russia did, how they did it so we can take steps to make certain that that does not happen in the future and it's the american people who decide who is their leader. . release the mueller report. mr. speaker, i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the chair recognizes the gentleman from georgia. mr. woodall: thank you, mr. speaker. i yield myself such time as i may consume. i'm looking for something to disagree with my friend from vermont about. i didn't disagree. i thought that was a thoughtful presentation. he doesn't know what's in the mueller report and the american people don't know what's in the mueller report because as of today there's no mueller report. he only reason we don't know
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what's in it is because it hasn't been released. he hasn't released it and hands that to the attorney general yet. let me tell you what the american general has said, mr. speaker. the attorney general has committed to being transparent with congress and the public, consistent with the rules of the law. i don't think we would ask anything different of him. the attorney general has committed to providing as much information he can consistent with current regulations. i don't think we'd ask anything different of him than that. certainly this resolution doesn't ask anything of him other than that. he says his objective and goal is to get as much information he can to the public. that's exactly what this resolution asks for, exactly whatess -- what he's already committed to. i am in a position in life where i can do the right thing and not care about the consequences, i can truly be independent. well, that doesn't just mean truly independent from pressure put on him from the white house. it also means truly independent
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from statements of opinion sent to him by the u.s. house. he's going to do the right thing as allowed by the law and resolutions. if he doesn't this house can act and try to push a different -- a different outcome. just understand that that is not what this resolution does today. it's simply a statement of fact. my friend from california, there are those members in congress sometimes they speak and you want to get out your sharp stick, mr. speaker, and poke them a little bit harder. they don't calm you down. they rile you up. my friend from california's thoughtful words always recenter me and remind me what we have together. and he's right about hyperbole. i don't want to mischaracterize this resolution. it does do one thing that's not available in current law today. and that is that it makes the official position of the united states house known. i have always presumed that the attorney general would follow the law. this resolution says we expect
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the attorney general to follow the law. and with that it's not that it does nothing. it's just that it does something very little, perhaps our time would be better spent elsewhere. i support the underlying premise. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: thank you. the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from california is recognized. mr. desauliner: i thank my friend for pointing out i am not a poker, that i may be trying to be thoughtful. maybe it because it was because i was once registered a republican. i do think this conversation is important on multiple levels and i appreciate the fact that you are here to present your side of the aisle's position. i think there is a danger for us to resume sort of to our corners and this is an instance where i really think it's important and hopefully it's news worthy to the media and to the general public that we are coming to this moment and although it's a resolution, i still think it's
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significant without divulging in hyperbole. mr. speaker, i'd like to yield three minutes to my friend from colorado, a distinguished member of the rules committee, mr. perlmutter. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from colorado is recognized. mr. perlmutter: i thank the gentleman from california, and i thank the gentleman from georgia. i've not heard you two be so dis-- so agreeable. disagreeable is what you usual are, but agreeable. there's reason there is agreement here is because we all want to see what's in this report. and i rise in strong support of the rule and the underlying resolution, and i'd like to remind everybody about what the mueller investigation is about. russia interfered in the 201 u.s. -- 2016 u.s. presidential election with, in my opinion, the goal of helping mr. trump to be elected. it was confirmed by the u.s. and senate house intelligence committees. this should concern every american, republican, democrat,
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or independent. in response this unpress departmented attack on our election -- unprecedented attack on our elections, robert mueller was appointed as special counsel by the justice department to follow the facts wherever they may lead, whether they complicate people or exonerate people. we -- implicate people or exonerate people. we need to understand who was involved, how it was accomplished and ultimately hold those responsible for attack on our election accountable under our laws. this investigation will also ensure we better protect our elections in the future. now, we've had two convictions of mr. mana fort. seven -- manafort. seven guilty pleas and companies indicted as part of the mueller investigation. six of the people indicted were part of president trump's inner circle with the campaign and business. so it is important for us to
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understand precisely what is in the report and i appreciate the fact that the rules committee unanimously supported this particular rule and the underlying resolution and i say to my friend from georgia, you're right. the law is what it is. and it says should be withheld until fully written and prepared. and then if mr. barr does what he says he was going to do, it will be available to all of us. and we are emphasizing that point. because americans should know precisely what happened and where this investigation has led. with that i'd yield back to my friend from california and thank him for bringing this rule. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the chair recognizes the gentleman from georgia. mr. woodall: i would tell my friend, i do not have any speakers remaining at this point and so i'll reserve. mr. desauliner: mr. speaker, i yield three minutes to the gentlewoman from texas, ms.
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jackson lee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from texas is recognized. i thank you. e: let me thank the gentleman from california and congratulate him on his new distinguished post on the rules committee. and my good friend, who i've seen quite frequently over the years, at the rules committee and i've known of his consistent concern with the rule of law and truly appreciate his comments today as it relates to the rule of law and would like my comments to be strictly on that question and really the american people of whom each and every one of us come here to represent. i don't want to recount in detail, but i do want to make mention we know that the intelligence committee in january, 2017, concluded, and
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that is the intelligence community concluded in a report that russian president putin ordered and influenced the campaign of 2016 and the presidential election and we all know recently that there were attempts to influence the 2018 election. we won't dwell on that. we won't dwell on the fact that there is discussions and review in the special counsel's work dealing with collusion or the questions dealing with the campaign of the present president and russia. i believe that the real point of this is to answer the questions of the american people. if we say that the purpose of appointing a special counsel to oversee the investigation is to ensure that the american public would have full confidence in the integrity of the investigation, regardless of
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what it says. i'm here to say, regardless of what the mueller report will say -- and we know there will be comments made by the general public, leaders of congress, and that is their right as americans. but we want to reinforce the fact that the d.o.j. regulations emselves, say that investigations' results should be made fully extended to the american public in the public interest and that the results of that report should be made available to the american people. obviously being concerned about persons that are mentioned with no relevance whatsoever. as a lawyer, i would want to make sure such protections occur, but it is true that special counsel mueller previously served in the department of justice as a prosecutor and director of the and in the democratic
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republican administrations where he built competence, fairness, bipartisanship. with that if mind, we thank him for the work he's done that's shown a number of guilty pleas and other responses, but the main point is the american people, to know their government adheres to the rule of law and integrity of the constitution. all we're asking today is to reflect in a sense of congress that you, the american people, that my colleagues in this house and senate, should have the right to see the full report. i ask for support of the underlying bill, and i ask us to do it in a bipartisan way. i yield back my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from georgia is recognized. mr. woodall: thank you, mr. speaker. i'd ask my friend from california if he has any speakers remaining. mr. desauliner: no. that's our last speaker. we have no more. mr. woodall: unless the gentleman would like to close -- mr. desauliner: i'm anticipating your brilliant close. i will try to follow you. mr. woodall: i appreciate the
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gentleman. i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. woodall: i hope folks pay attention to some of those things that have brought folks together today, and i hope folks pay attention to those that haven't brought us together today. we talked about whether there has been overstatement and hyperbole, whether it comes from that end of pennsylvania avenue or this end of pennsylvania avenue. none of us are advantaged by that. it breeds more distrust in the american public, breeds more distrust in this institution. we've talked about who's to blame within the administration. of course, there's news today of paul manafort's sentence. not for anything related to the election, but for things related to his private business practices. there will be efforts to conflate those two investigations. those are two different investigations. i think the american people are disadvantaged if they are led to believe that those sentences are
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related to the election of the president of the united states. but what you've heard is a lot of unia numberity, as you would -- unanimity, as you would expect we are a nation of laws and it should be followed and the american people the boss of each and every one of us, whether we work on that end of pennsylvania avenue or this end of pennsylvania avenue, have a right to know what their tax dollars have paid for and what their government is up to. i find that very encouraging that we have that sense of agreement here today, mr. speaker. what is noticeably absent in this resolution is the dramatic overreach that i think has characterized most of the work we have done so far in 2019. things that could have been partnership issues have been pushed further and further and further out to the edge of the political continuum that they became partisan issues.
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this resolution does not make those mistakes of the past. and to my friend from california's point, these things are done incrementally. trust is built incrementally. relations grow incremently and success happens incremently. it is my hope, -- happens incrementally. it is my hope, mr. speaker, that rule of law, trust in and of the american people will begin today to flourish in ways perhaps those common themes have not thus far and both parties play a role in that disappointing outcome. but success has to begin on one day, mr. speaker. perhaps success begins today. i serve on the transportation and infrastructure committee. there's no such thing as a republican road or democratic bridge. there's no such thing as sitting in traffic on a democratic highway or missing your child's soccer game because of
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malfunctions on a republican road. we're all in this together, and that is true more often than not. i do not plan to offer a previous question today, mr. speaker, because this isn't one of those issues that dramatically -- as my friend suggests in the rules committee, we passed this out -- i think our first voice vote of the year out of the rules committee and intend to do exactly that today. with that, mr. speaker, i appreciate my friend from california for yielding the time and leading the debate today and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from california. mr. desauliner: thank you, mr. speaker. again, it's a pleasure to see you up there and to my friend from georgia, his long, illustrious public career, i want to thank him. i want to thank him for his commomity here today. i can't help but think so many americans now and people who are
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filled with adrenaline and hyperbole talk about what a difficult time this is. and i wouldn't underestimate the challenges ahead of us, but inarguably, a more difficult time, i was thinking of mr. lincoln's comments of appealing to the better angels of our nature. and perhaps this is a turning point. and certainly we will be tested and we will fail on occasion, but to my friend, for whatever time both of us have left here, i'd like to personally say to the degree we can find things are of interest to your district and my district, i'd like to find those things. i can't help but comment on my observation about providential americans in history and mr. mueller is -- i was reading about him and his comments when he was f.b.i. director in the context of his amazing life and career as a combat veteran, a bronze star winner in the marine corps.
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i think of my father who is a marine corps combat veteran who is buried in arlington. and my dad and all marines -- although i was not one -- would like to always recite searcher fidelis. special -- semper fidelis. the special counsel assures me in ways i find profound is he talked about fidelity as he talked to his agents. that the fidelity to this constitution, to this country and the truth will find us through to the path we want to take and success as we look for the better angels of our nature. so, mr. speaker, this is a simple vote but an important vote. we need to get to the bottom of what happened and put faith in the special counsel's findings and put faith in the american public and the people that they can devise their own truth when we give them this investigation's report. you either believe the public and congress should see the report or you don't.
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it looks like we agree they should. we owe it to our constituents and the american people and to future generations to do the right thing always but i think today to release the report. mr. speaker, i ask for a yes today, former vice president joe biden will be speaking at a fundraiser in dover. live coverage of the event will begin at its: 15 p.m. eastern with the former delaware senator speaking at about 7:00 eastern on c-span. you can also watch it live online at, or listen on our free radio app. q&a --ay, on >> tragically, i had no expectation that we would be 2019 talkingin about this war in afghanistan.


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