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senate-pass resolution to end u.s. military involvement in yemen's civil war. pentagon officials testify in front of the house armed services subcommittee about mismanagement of military family housing programs. that is a live of the senate returning at 11:00 eastern to debate and vote on the a u.s. district judge for the southern district of florida. they also consider whether to move forward with the nomination of the head of the federal housing finance agency. on c-span3, health and human services secretary alex azar testifies with the president's 2020 budget request for hhs before the senate appropriations subcommittee at 10:00 a.m. eastern >> coming up on today's washington journal, we look at affordable housing issues and other news of the day with democratic congressman david price of north carolina.
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later, andy barr of kentucky joins us to discuss the democratic tax us to share his thoughts on the democratic tax proposals for financial trading. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2019] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit] ♪ host: former vice president joe biden took the social media to respond to accusations made against him by several women regarding alleged unwanted conduct. mr. biden said he will be "mindful and respectful of people's personal space." mr. biden is reported to announce his candidacy for president in the 2020 election. in our next hour, we want to hear from you, democrats in the audience about allegations made against mr. biden, his response, and if you think it might have an impact on his candidacy. if you want to give us a call,
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you can do so on one of the three phone lines. 202-748-8000 for democrats in the audience under the age of 30. 202-748-8001 if you are between the ages of 30 and 50. 202-748-8002 if you are over the age of 50. if you want to make your thoughts known on this first hour, you can do so on our social media sites as well. is how you can post there and our twitter feed @cspanwj. it was on joe biden's twitter feed where he took yesterday posting a video about the comments of the last few days and the accusations and how he plans to address them. here is joe biden from yesterday. [video clip] to youpect to be talking about a whole bunch of issues and i always want to be direct with you. i want to talk about the encouragement i have made to women and some men and made them
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uncomfortable. i have always tried to make a human connection. that is my responsibility. i shake hands and hugged people. i grab men and women by the shoulders and say you can do this. whether they are women, men, young, old, it is the way i have always been. over the years, knowing the things i have faced, i have found scores, if not hundreds of people, come up to me and reached out for solace and comfort. something, anything that may help them get through the tragedy they are going through i am. is just to i have never thought of politics as cold and antiseptic, i have thought of it as connecting with people. shaking hands, hands on the shoulder, hug, encouragement. now it is all about taking selfies together. social norms have begun to change and shift and the boundaries of protecting
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personal space have been reset and i get it. i get it. i hear what they are saying, i understand it, and i will be much more mindful. that is my responsibility and i will meet it. i always believe, governing, quite frankly. life, for that matter, is about connecting with people. that won't change, but i will be more mindful and respectful of people's personal space and that is a good thing. i worked my whole life to empower women. i worked my whole life to prevent abuse. the idea that i cannot adjust to a factor that personal space is more important than it has ever been is not thinkable, i will. i will. host: that is the former vice president's response on his twitter feed yesterday and for this first hour for democrats, we wanted to get your thoughts on this story.
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his response and what it might mean for his political future should he decide to run for president. 202-748-8000 for those of you under the age of 30. between the age of 30 and 50, 202-748-8001. if you are over 50, 202-748-8002 . the wall street journal profiles one of the accusers, lucy florez of nevada, the former state said mr.saying she has biden inappropriately placed his hands on her shoulders and kissed the back of her neck. the former vice president said he does not believe he acted "inappropriately," but would listen if it was suggested he did so. both her detractors and supporters know that she has raised issues about -- questions about similar issues in the past -- she also faced sexism while working at a digital media firm with -- working with a former aide to bernie sanders. if i were a man, my direct and
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to the point style of leadership would be received as entirely normal and assertive. she won her first race in 2009 and served two terms. democrats only in this first hour about the response from joe biden and the story that led up to it. christopher in oklahoma starts us off. good morning, go ahead. about: my comment is just -- joe biden has a habit of getting really close and whispering in people's ears. if you notice on some of these videos, there are so many of them, i have lost count. of these are not places where there is a lot of ruckus. usually stuff like that happens if it is a loud place and you have to do that for practical reasons so somebody can hear you better. why would he have to come in so close like that and whisper
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something in somebody's ears and then -- host: what do you think about the former vice president's response to all of this as of yesterday? for him ford hoped running and everything. now i am kind of like -- social norms are changing and they always do. history repeats itself. i think he is kind of dodging or --ng broad language host: are you saying if he runs for president, this might affect that run? caller: personally, for myself, yeah. int: let's hear from yanna oak ridge, tennessee. hello. caller: good morning. i don't know if it's because i come from another country. i come from denmark.
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an affectionate man should not be treated like this. tell these women to get over it. i love joe biden and i would vote for him. host: why is it overblown? caller: my girlfriends are like this. he touched me, he kissed me on the cheek, he touched my bottom, he pinched me. it is just a bottom, it is not in tohe is sticking parts you. have a sense of humor about it, pinch back. -- legislative response from people on capitol hill. several female democratic lawmakers said they were happy to see him addressing the issue fully. senator tammy duckworth said one thing i know about joe biden, he is a man of word. if he says he will do better, he will do better. if women felt he was inappropriate, we have to respect how they felt.
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"mr. biden was honest, humble, and cares deeply about our country." jennifer paul mary wrote a tweet "his own words are clearly heartfelt, the best thing he can do to help himself in this moment." dorothy over the age of 50, you are next up. 50 years ago i worked at general motors and we had an old fellow that would take orders for christmas cookies in tins and when he would deliver them to the people who ordered them, he would hug them and everything. i was uncomfortable to -- with that and i turned around when he did that. butid, ed, i like you, please don't touch me. i don't care for that. that was the end of that. this is going way too far. he is a hugger. i have a friend who likes to do that.
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i don't think anything of that. it is either you are or you aren't. if you are uncomfortable, say something. last night i was watching wheel of fortune with pat sajak and the woman that won, he went up and gave her a big hug. i guess he should lose his job, don't you think? host: several women made specific accusations and allegations against the former vice president. what should be done with those? how should those be treated? caller: i think we should treat it as that is the way he is. if you don't like it, tell him so, even if he has the vice president -- is the vice president or the president read at least he was not grabbing otch like the cr the president. host: if you are between the ages of 30 and 50, 202-748-8001. over the age of 50, it is 202-748-8002. in the age next
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bracket of 30 to 50 in woodbridge, virginia. good morning. caller: good morning. i just wanted to say, like the previous caller, i am of hispanic dissent. i am not saying joe biden is the same. a lot of times we think we are doing service to the me too movement and it is the opposite. i agree with -- just because people are in a high-powered position is not an excuse. if you had that kind of a relationship, why weren't you come people going to him
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directly and say what you did today made me a little bit uncomfortable? i prefer that you weren't so close. obviously i don't know mr. biden personally, but he seems like the kind of man that would respect that. host: what did you think of his response in the video? caller: i thought it was wonderful. he took what they said seriously and obviously took it to heart and said he would respect it. in a way, it is a little bit sad because, like i said, there are certain cultures and certain people that just like physical like to show concern for people in that way and we are killing that. host: do you think this story as a result of what is going on with the me too movement or is there more with it? caller: absolutely. i am really disappointed in the democrats because they think it makes them look better to pounce on him. i think it makes them look like
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a bunch of hama kratz -- hypocrites. respondingrats only to these accusations, allegations to the personal -- about allegations of contact. caller: good morning, pedro. this isunderstand why being made such a big deal. joe biden, to me, seems to be a very good man. it is a generational thing if joe biden would like to hug someone, he is not, and sorry for this, he is not grabbing somebody by their crotch like our current president has done. i really don't understand why the media is making such a big deal out of this. he appreciates people.
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host: what do you think about the women who have brought these allegations to light? caller: i really think. excuse me. i really think that these ladies exertive.over it should not be a thing. one lady accused him of smelling her hair. he had his hands on her shoulders, that is not a sexual advance. i just don't understand it. i think they are making too big a deal out of this and may be the me too movement is getting .ver exaggerated
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i really don't think something like that should happen. the man has done nothing wrong. is0 joel in north carolina. suzanne fields9 makes her thoughts known as well, caught in a time warp, a revival of puritan be welders -- bad timing for relating to younger generations, time accelerates attitudes in a high-tech world and sexual mores move forward and backward -- if the former vice president suffers rejection of the mad men sensibility so easily to despise a half-century later, -- they may wonder about how swiftly actual abuse, think harvey weinstein, descended to frivolous by comparison like the humiliation of a man sniffing a woman's dirty hair.
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you can read more of her thoughts on the washington times website. bill is next in virginia between the ages of 30 and 50. good morning, go ahead. definitely need to believe the women here. people bring up the trump thing and grab -- host: i think you are breaking up a little bit. are you there? hisink bill kind of lost signal. from clyde in new jersey over the age of 50. hello. caller: hello. good morning. the way i think the sway of the times is now, i think he should ask permission to do that because if he doesn't ask permission, it is going to hurt him. i like biden and i respect him. host: when you say going to hurt
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him, is that if he decides to run for president? is that is what -- is that what you are saying? caller: i am saying the times have changed and all this thing with trump and all this other stuff involved with, i think he should ask position either to hug them or not. he would probably be better off shaking hands because the way things are nowadays. host: that is clyde in new jersey. this question posted to our facebook page. don cooper says when it comes to the president's video yesterday, the heartfelt speech now let's put it behind us. we hear from john who says he is a good guy and it has all been overblown. it was frankly a cheap, political hit job on him, sad. james says it's a new world and biden might survive, but he will be apologizing for this for the entire campaign. you can make your comments on
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.ur facebook page mississippi, andre under the age of 30, good morning. morning.ood i am calling because i think bernie sanders supporters have a scorched earth sort of we are going to do anything it takes to get him to win mentality and i think this is something that was originated -- they want to take joe biden down, excuse me. i am not a huge fan of joe biden, but i think at some point we have to say, hold on, every woman should not be instantly believed, but they should be listened to, they should be respected, and the men should be allowed to go through an appropriate level of due process. for this smelling of hair, holding onto shoulders to anyway
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be in the media as much as what has gone on with other men who had held women in rooms and buttons on doors so women could not leave, to equate that in any way is crazy. we need to chill out and we need to understand that what is going on is just something -- he apologized, let's move on. host: why do you automatically associate this with the bernie sanders campaign? caller: i guess it is because the first accuser who came forward said she was a bernie sanders supporter and they said she showed up at a beto o'rourke campaign rally i think or something like that. i kind of feel like you know the history of bernie sanders supporters and you know they have a scorched earth mentality. they are not going to quit until he wins and they will sit at
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home next november before they vote for somebody they do not agree with. host: that is andre in mississippi giving his thoughts for the former vice president joe biden addressing these allegations in a twitter video. we will continue on with those calls. if you want to call and let your thoughts be known, you can call at 202-748-8000 if you are under the age of 30. 202-748-8001 if you are between the ages of 30 and 50. and 202-748-8002 if you are over the age of 50. if you are on the line, stay there for a few minutes and you can keep calling if you wish. we want to take a few moments to talk about an action on the senate side that might affect the process for judicial nominations and the harder ramifications. the headline courtesy of the associated press gives you the flavor, less debate time for trump picks after the senate rules changes.
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the talk about the changes and the impact, we are joined by molly reynolds with the brookings institution. also, the author of the book "exceptions to the rule: the felt -- the politics of filibuster limitations in the u.s. senate." good morning. guest: good morning. thanks for having me. host: can you explain what happened on the senate side yesterday? guest: sure. debate haste, once been ended on a particular , but between that moment and when the senate has a final vote to confirm that nominee, there is some amount of what we call post-cloture debate time. what happened yesterday is that republicans approved a change
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that, for many nominations, to sub cabinet post to the district courts that reduced that amount of time from a maximum of 30 hours to a maximum of two hours. it has the potential to speed up the rate at which nominations are processed in the senate. host: aside from the nominations part, many were making a point of making -- a big deal of the point of making the change in the first place. why is that? guest: the way the senate went about doing this yesterday is what we have come to call the so-called nuclear option, which basically allows the senate to make certain procedural changes with only 51 votes. we know many things require 60 votes in the senate and a filibuster, but there is a way available to senators to make procedural changes with just 51 votes and that is what we saw
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happen yesterday. host: when it comes to this idea of rule changes, how often does this happen and is that of concern for folks like you who follow this closely? guest: sure. what we saw yesterday is just the latest in a long series of moves by both parties that have weakened the filibuster in some way. in this particular case, thinking about nominations in 2013, we saw democrats use the nuclear option to make a change to reduce the number of votes needed to end debate on judicial nominees and executive branch nominees except to the supreme court. this is a little bit different than that in that we are talking not about the number of votes, but some of the terms for debate and the amount of time it will take. it is just the latest in a sort chipping aways of
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at the filibuster and its strength. host: what do you think is in their thinking on the way -- rate of these rule changes and how they occur? seen as we had generational turnover in the senate. we have more senators new to the chamber. there are fewer senators in the chamber now who we might think of as sort of old-style institutionalists and more senators who are a little bit more focused on the outcome and what do the rules allow you to do or not to do. senators have always really cared about outcomes, but at this point, we have more senators focused on the end product and we also have a republican party in the senate who is really focused on confirming judicial nominees with divided government, with democrats controlling the house,
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there is not a lot of legislative front -- progress they plan to make. to spend more time doing particularly judicial nominations i think is attractive to senators. host: does it set a precedent for the future regardless of what party is in power in the senate? guest: sure. over much have seen of the 20th century, the kind of slow erosion of the filibuster. i see this as another step down that path. it's hard to say whether the legislative filibuster will survive the next unified party control period in washington. i don't think what happened yesterday was a good sign for its future. host: is there a worst-case scenario that you can see? guest: it depends on your
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thepective, but i do think chances we get to another period of unified party control and whichever party is in power will be under a lot of pressure to eliminate the legislative filibuster in order to accomplish certain policy goals. we have seen this already be a question that democratic presidential candidates are being asked about on the campaign trail. think we will have to keep watching and see what happens. host: our guest has a whole book dedicated to the topic of the senate filibuster, the exceptions to the rule, the politics, and the u.s. senate. that is molly reynolds joining us to talk about these changes yesterday. thank you for giving us your time. guest: thank you. host: back to your calls about the u.s. president -- former u.s. vice president. we go to carl in iowa in the 30
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to 50-year-old bracket. thanks for waiting, go ahead. .aller: good morning, pedro good morning, united states of america. i think this issue with joe biden is a very serious issue. there are three more women that have come out last night and said they feel like he invaded their space and made them comfortable. writing it off as being huggy doesn't account for the fact that he kissed, he open mouth kissed the back of lucy florez head. hejust sniffed her hair, just had his hands on her waist, he was kissing her from behind in a very awkward moment. rubbing noses with someone is not okay without their permission. i don't understand why he gets a pass at violating' people's space. because he is a rich white man
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with power. no one would allow a homeless man to be touching them like that. some of these instances have caused fights in a relationship between a husband and wife because it was uncomfortable and everything. it is just not ok to be doing this. host: should he run for president? do you think that will -- should he run for president, do you think that will have an impact? caller: absolutely. we have a huge challenge here. we have an incumbent who had -- who is a sexual assailant. do we want to the conversation or debate to be around who is the worse sexual assailant? by you defeat fascism is crushing it with public policy that is overwhelmingly popular with the people. we can beat this guy. host: that is carl in iowa in the 30 to 50 year-old bracket.
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someone in the under 30 age bracket, john in pennsylvania. hi. caller: good morning, pedro. host: good morning, go ahead. caller: good morning, pedro? host: you are on, go ahead, please. caller: can you hear me? host: i can, go ahead. caller: first of all, before i make my comment, i would like to say i have been watching the show for over 20 years and i don't know how and i have tried to get on i would say over two dozen times and it seems like you have a 30 day rule and i keep hearing, not all the time, but the same person coming back on within the 30 days. i would like to know how they monitor their calls. host: we do have a 30 day rule
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and now that you have made it on, congratulations. what do you think about joe biden? caller: i really have not seen .nything i haven't seen anything serious about it. i think if enough people thought enough people should get out, it should. i guess that should be up to him and last night i heard nancy pelosi and she said he still hasn't apologized and i think we will see how much clout she has in the party, whether he runs or not. host: that is john from pennsylvania joining us this morning. it was nancy pelosi talking about this event, this event on tuesday sponsored by politico. was asked about these allegations that have been put out against the vice president. here is her response. [video clip] >> i don't think it is
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disqualifying. i think this is about communication in general. i am a member of the straight arm club, i am a straight armer. i just pretend i have a cold and you have a cold. i think it is important for the vice president and others to understand this, it isn't what you intended, it is how it was received. that is generally about communication in general. if people don't think they are being communicated with, even in your marriage, if your spouse doesn't think you are communicating, you are not communicating even if you think i did this and i did that, it is how it is received. to say i am sorry that you were offended is not an apology. space,rry i invaded your but not i am sorry you were
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offended. ting the factccep that people think differently about communication, whether it is a handshake, a hug. i have known joe biden for a long time. he is an affectionate person to children, senior citizens, everyone, that is the way he is. that is just not the way -- joined the straight arm with you, if you will. for example, my grandchildren, when they were little like five and six and now they are more 10 and 11, they would play games and then they would say open sesame, except we don't say biden, thatay open is the magic word because he was so lovely to them and paid attention. he just needs to understand in the world we are in now, that people's space is important to
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them and what is important is how they receive it, not necessarily how you intended it. host: that was a whole event featuring nancy pelosi sponsored by politico. if you want to hear her comments about joe biden and other things she said, all you have to do is go to our website at if you see the search box at the top of the screen, type in nancy pelosi, type in joe biden, some keyword and chances are that video will pop up along with everything else we have taken in on these topics. in california, jesse is next in the over 50 bracket. hello. caller: good morning. host: good morning. caller: caller: i am a lifetime democrat, cradle democrat i guess you could say. i don't think the vice president should change anything he is doing. i think nancy pelosi was
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searching for words that would suit her and i think joe biden has my vote. if that is the worst thing he is --ticized about caller: i liked what he said when he had his speech the other day. -- i think it is suspicious and he did not do anything wrong. host: when it comes to the women who made these accusations, do you believe them? i don't know.
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maybe they should have some kind of polygraph machines when they make these accusations. for: robert is next, think calling, go ahead. caller: i have a question and appoint to make. a lot of videos show him around children and nobody is talking about that, they all want to talk about the grown women who can go out and say he touch them. what about the kids who are on there? they cannot come out and say anything in defense of themselves. why aren't people talking about this? host: as far as the accusations, have you heard them and the response the vice president has given, what do you think of those?
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is out i just think he there trying to cover whatever he has done. nobody is even mentioning anything about the young kids. i am curious as to why. it seems to me people will be screaming about that rather than the women who came and made accusations. next,jodi from iowa is jodi in our 30 to 50 bracket, hello. i just really think -- and not to minimize that at all -- how close he may have gotten or .ow he touched their shoulder i think we should look at the big picture here, the fact joe biden does not have a record of and people are not coming out or
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claiming he has been over or or they inappropriate fact that there are staunch believers and -- or people who come to his defense from michelle obama on up. i just feel we should take a moment to think about how joe biden is perceived in general. i feel like he has a lot to offer america and i feel he should be given the opportunity to do so. we had an absolutely terrific --der and i feel he could do the country good. host: should he run for president, this isn't going to be an issue, you think? caller: not for me and i am in iowa. i want people to understand, there is a fine line between
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democrats and republicans. host: what did you think about from theseions women? caller: i think we should validate what they are feeling. as a woman myself, i have been in awkward positions myself where i felt someone may have gotten a little too close to me. turning that back around to the -- biden aspect, he has been from what i have seen of a lot of the pictures and images and past memories. host: that is jodi from iowa talking about her response, at least the vice president's
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response. one group has put out an ad on this issue. it is a group that is pro- president trump, the great america pac. they put out ads they title "creepy joe." here is the ad. ♪ [video clip] >> it happened also suddenly, very unexpectedly, out of nowhere. i feel joe biden put his hands on my shoulders, get up close to me from behind, lean in, smell my hair, and then plant a slow kiss on the top of my head. to have the vice president of the united states do that to me so unexpectedly and out of nowhere, it was shocking. you don't expect that kind of intimate behavior, you don't expect that kind of intimacy from someone so powerful and who you have no relationship
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whatsoever to touch you and feel you and be so close to you in that way. ♪ host: this is rod from new york over the age of 50, hello. caller: hi. i have a comment on the biden issue. this, that, prior to these headlines and the news cycle, that biden was the only one that could stand up to trump. now trump is feeling mixed about that and i heard in the news he was inappropriately touching, invading space.
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-- if biden is sincere in his belief that what he was doing was not inappropriate, i feel he should stand up to him or else biden is going to walk out as a wimp or a loser or something, afraid to -- that would be his legacy. heen is sincere, i think should do it. current environment, i would tell joe, go ahead and do it. i saw that video cnn ran and if he feels that way, he should do it. dot: if he decided to run,
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you think this will be a continuing issue for him that eventually goes away? i think if he faces trump -- cannot face trump yet. if he faces the media, town --ls and gets on the media and the public approves of what he says, i think it will go away . in other words, it is like a .oxing match, wrestling match trump knows exactly what he is doing and he was a big --lower of i was a supporter of him and that is another issue. york.that is rod in new
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--eporter putting out construction and maintenance conference in washington, d.c. whether he will address the issue of this or his presidential ambitions, who is to say. at least that event is scheduled for tomorrow in washington. speaking of the president, he himself making comments about joe biden. this took place earlier at a dinner sponsored by the nrc see and hear are the comments. [video clip] time had been here by that 3, 3 .5 years, going into the war with some socialist. it looks like the only non-sort of heavy socialist is being taken of -- vacant -- being taken care of pretty well by
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this socialist. our former vice president. i was going to call him, i don't know him well. was going to say "welcome to the world, joe tomko are you having a good time, joe? are you having a good time, joe? host: when it comes to the support of the vice president, you heard several democratic lawmakers. you can find that on his twitter feed if you wish. we will go to judy in maryland. hello. caller: i don't know what qualifies a person to be president or first lady because if donald trump or anybody in -- republican party is what qualifies a person to be
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the president? people seem like they don't have morals now, thinking back to what they heard because melania with a briefcase neck.d to her host: what do you think about the response to joe biden? caller: i have been watching joe biden for years, i am not defending him, but you cannot put him in a category with donald trump. i have never heard joe biden say anything disrespectful about women. i am not defending him, but i heard what the man in the white house right now has the nerve to be laughing and mocking somebody these evangelical christians voted for him. what is going on for -- in this country that you all call america? this really is a mess. host: that is judy in maryland
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joining us on the phone giving us her thoughts. jill collins has a column taking a look at the issue, the biden sort-of lovefest. biden is acting as though the don't touch business is a brand-new product of the me too movement. let's go back to 2006 at a g8 came uphen george bush behind -- hard to believe a powerful u.s. senator with an expertise in foreign affairs could have missed that story. to empower women, he was an author of the violence against women act, but also has that nasty history with the anita hill matter. this was in 1991 when no one
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ever talks about that stuff in public and biden, the chairman of the senate judiciary committee did nothing but ask embarrassing questions. were you and comfortable? were you -- uncomfortable? were you embarrassed? i am sorry if she believes that, i am sorry she had to go through that, what she went through. you can see that on the new york times this morning. the violence against women act is up for debate on the house side. to knit in to our main network, c-span, to do that. if you want the best way to track what is going on in capitol hill, not only what goes on in the house and senate, but major events, go to our website. if you go to the left-hand side to the bottom of the screen, we will give you a list of the things we are taking in airing the day and things you can watch on the network whether it be one of our name -- main websites or the web.
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you can go to our website for that. terry in california, over the age of 50. you are next up, hello. caller: i think there is lots to do about nothing. i think the media is making too much of it and i think biden should not be apologizing. biden and trump and i believe this florez woman, the first time i saw this story, she was holding hands up in the air like she had won something and if that is the case, he helped her win that. for her turn around and accuse him of this, i think he is a
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cold fish. i think he is a bernie sanders person and for the democrats to do this to each other, are we just going to let trump win? that is what is going to happen. we are just going to kill ourselves and let trump win again. host: why do you think the vice president should not be active talking about this issue even to the point of putting out a video? all, he votedof against thomas. you did not have that in that article and he has apologized. host: that is ingrid in florida. carol under the age of 30, hello. caller: hello? host: hello, you are on. biden: okay, i think should run. i think every time they run, some kind of slander about him, all the democrats should run
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slander about trump. there is a lot more ammunition in the. host: why do you you think these comments about mr. biden are slanderous? caller: because touching someone like the oneer lady said, he touches men. foreigners, he puts his arm around putin. my gosh host:, come on. host:if the women express discomfort, why should that not be of concern? caller: then they should turn around and say i prefer you don't do that. let's grow up a little bit. this is ridiculous. from 30 our age bracket to 50 from california, we will hear from shane. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. first of all, i want to say i think it is great the way joe
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byen has attacked this thing apologizing, even going as far .s doing a video bidenxt step would be for and the accusers to be sitting for a private matter. and themween them only. as far as if he goes for presidency, i don't think it will affect him at all. he was a great vice president and i think he will be a greater president if he chooses to run and be nominated by the dnc. host: youhost: don't think they should be part of the issue -- part of the campaign or an issue that will be raised in the campaign? caller: absolutely not. if you look back at the 2016 election and the accusations
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trump had a faced and he still won, it is just kind of -- i don't think it will affect him at all. host: that is shane in california. the front page of the new york times, a story taking a look at the mueller report. this references people on that team saying some investigators have told associates the attorney general to adequately portray -- it does say in the bottom of this front page that the officials and others interviewed the client to flesh out why some of the special counsel investigators view their findings as potentially more damaging to the president then mr. barr. there is a story taking a look at the house intelligence committee, a new inquiry for them specifically looking at the inaugural committee for president trump that raised more than $100 million.
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it was part of a march 19 request disclosed in a letter to a lawyer for the committee. an attorney for stephanie wilson who served as a -- familiar to people related totter contacts between the inaugural fund and foreign entities. the person familiar with the matter said if you were watching the house to do sherry committee yesterday, taking a look at the idea of subpoena -- issuing a erbpoena for the muell report. from that, here is the house judiciary committee chairman on this process. [video clip] >> the trump administration has an idea, they want to redact the mueller report before they
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provided to congress. the department of justice says the proposal is a means to protect sensitive information that would not normally -- ordinarily be part of the record read we have reason to suspect of this administration's motives. the mueller report probably is exoneration" the president claims it to be. the committee has a job to do. that job requires us to evaluate the evidence for ourselves, not the attorney general's summary, not a substantially redacted synopsis, but the full report and the underlying evidence. the attorney general proposes to redact four categories of information from the mother report. grand jury information --from the mueller report. grand jury information, "information that may unduly infringe on the personal privacy
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and represent should -- reputation all interest of the parties." the department is wrong to withhold that information from this committee. congress is entitled to all the evidence. this isn't just my opinion, it is a matter of law. host: in the washington post, and analysis piece about this request, the headline says as -- if theushes barr -- it could take months to reach a resolution. the reasoning part is congress relies on the very justice department it is pursuing to prosecute and the justice department has declined to do so. -- in 2012,congress then attorney general eric holder to comply with the
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subpoena seeking documents related to a botched atf firearms investigation known as fast and furious. held harrietress miers in contempt after president bush claimed executive privilege to prevent her testimony. more of that story available at the washington post. jeanette, good morning, in washington, d.c. hello. caller: good morning. thented to comment about joe biden controversy. i feel like we are being a little bit hypocritical. --ot of people, especially sexual assault really isn't about power and control. when someone is violating your physical space, they are claiming they have control over
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you. it was interesting the clip you played with mark warner and his daughter and wife. if you turn the sound off and look at the body language, it kind of seems like some people are uncomfortable with that. i am a social worker here in d.c. and i work with people who have a history of childhood sexual assault and touching somebody inappropriately or coming up behind them really can put somebody in fear for their safety. this kind of reminds me a little bit about blaming monica lewinsky for everything -- that there needs to be somebody to blame. i think we need to practice good -- good manners and etiquette. it is like may i hug you or shake your hand and thank you and those kinds of things, it is about respecting people and appreciating they may come with a history. host: the video we are showing you as far as the congressional swearing in a ceremonies that take place when a new congress
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is seated, that is what we are showing you. type in "swearing in and joe some cross reference will show you that video. ios is reportings -- was diagnosed with cancer last month. i was diagnosed with prostate cancer. i am fortunate it was detected early and my prognosis is good. i will have surgery in colorado and returned to work after a brief recovery. the work we have in front of us is to restore politics worthy of our kids and grandkids. it only reinforces how strongly i feel about can tribbett into the larger conversation about the future of our country and even more contributed to drive that in a positive direction. sherry is next from tennessee. sherry from tennessee, hello? caller: hello.
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this is marvin from tennessee. i am 70 plus years old. i have been in the workplace long enough -- many workplaces long enough to see what females on the job, get up trying to get a part and a play, doing whatever they need to do and it is misconstrued in the end as sexual harassment when it is invited to get a head start in a different area to read i think these females are really bringing this country to an impasse with all these allegations and the press is pushing this for the value of the content. host: why do you not believe the women? caller: it is not that i don't beenve the women, i have married four times and have enough experience with women to
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know what kind of snakes they can be. recruited toeing mount these false accusations, which a lot of them are. host: why do you believe that? caller: because of the system and what you can do. i cannot prove that you did not try to harass me. if you say i did, it is incumbent upon me. i am guilty until i prove i did not harass you and that is that, that, that's a viewer from tennessee. i want to let you know about a hearing taking place today, 10:00 on the c-span3 network with the health and human are, from alex a's the senate appropriations subcommittee. it's about the budget request for health and human services.
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you can see that on c-span3 starting at 10:00. our last call from chantel, florida, 30 to 50 racket. whatr: well, referencing the gentleman before me just there's copious amounts of video on youtube of what joe biden has done. also touching on the previous lady that was talking to the social worker. i am a school guidance counselor . i work with elementary school kids. the power differential is definitely a factor. you can see where, you know, he uses his power to, to touch people. even in the videos you can see him pulling the little girls towards him to take the pictures. there is c-span video. so it's out there. i don't think it's going to go
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away, just like an earlier caller said. i think the trump people are going to jump on this. he's a flawed candidate, just like hillary was. i really hope we don't nominate another flawed candidate. host: that's chantel, last call for this segment. two guests will join us before we go to the house at 9:00. first up we hear from david price over the concerns he has over affordable housing in the u.s., particularly in light of the legit cuts at hud. later on, georgia republican andy barr undemocratic efforts to impose new taxes on financial service companies. those conversations are coming up on "washington journal." ♪
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american moonshot, john f. kennedy and the great space race. new dealught that the was too big, but what he did was social security and things, building the grand coulee dam, a highway system. kennedy is thinking -- what's my administration's big public works thing? what i admire is that he picked the right number technology. the computer chip as we think of it today gets developed in the late 1950's. modern aviation starts kicking in and by the time that jack kennedy runs in 1960, there are no computer science classes and by the time he is killed in dallas there are computer science classes everywhere. air travel is replacing automobile and train travel in many ways. and more hub airports are being developed across the country. so it's the jet age, the space age, kennedy grabbed onto it and
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made it the cornerstone of the new frontier. >> "washington journal" continues. host: our first guest this morning is david price, representative from north carolina, a member of the budgetiations and committees. good morning, sir. i will point you back to something from your twitter feed yesterday, our nations lack of affordable housing forces us to have tough questions about housing. challenging vital missions, we are clear on a 20% cut to hud being unacceptable. can you expand on their? guest: housing needs to be a front burner issue in this country.
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i would say it's sometimes true in democratic circles as well as republican, but certainly this trump budget is a new low in terms of -- he has done it for three years now, more or less the same kind of test, cutting out things like community thelopment block grants and hope program, things that we have really counted on in our communities. actually all of this has been under resourced for some time and i hope that in this budget process now with democrats and leadership we will be at some realistic topline numbers. in the appropriations committee we can mark up these bills early on and can do justice to these vital programs. host: those programs, how do they deal with affordable housing? our audience not following as close as you do. guest: sure. it's a spectrum of programs. that's complexity but also the housingeness of the
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portfolio. it doesn't assume that one-size-fits-all. some people need a lot of help. very low income people need public housing and we need to that is it in a way accessible to those people. for other people, they can use just a little bit of help with the rent. that is what section eight, so-called, is all about. that's an important component of the way to you housing, giving people support for rent, for their rent costs. and of course there is a whole effort to keep landlords in that program and keep the program vital and to have some special vouchers for veterans, for people with disabilities. that is one approach. and sometimes we take community development approaches. those are popular programs. they also furnish disaster relief. is a veryrogram
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flexible program which can promote homeownership and give a to organizations, usually nonprofits that want to build support theit can ramps and the development of homes that eventually people will own. so it is a spectrum of programs. i don't think we should be playing triage. i think we need to make them all work. they can complement each other, but that is the challenge. to figure out how to take this under resourced area and get it up to full of effectiveness. one final example, we have dedicated funding streams for housing for the elderly and poor people with disabilities. for those who have been flatlined for years now. , thatleague, mario diaz good topline number for the last
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two years, we were going to build some new elderly housing and housing for people with disability. in years. there, too, you have seed money essentially from the federal level and you often have congregations or nonprofits who buildake us on and will this housing. we desperately need housing in both categories. so that gives you the spectrum. it is a wide array but we pretty much need help all along. our guest is with us until a: 30 if you want to ask them questions. you can tweak questions or comments @cspanwj. secretary carson made a speech yesterday talking about affordable housing, touting the administration's efforts on it. i want to get your response to one of the things he said, that according to the story in national mortgage magazine,
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"carson cited opportunity zones as one program expected to greatly increase access to affordable housing, adding the encouragement of capital in distressed communities. what you think about that argument in that approach? it's promising. we are waiting to see it fully implemented. i should have said earlier, you don't directly spend for this, you do give tax breaks and the low income housing tax credit, that people use to draw developers into the production of housing, that's one of the most important components of this. so this opportunity zone takes advantage of the tax zone and provides other incentives for businesses to locate in low income areas and as the secretary says, this could foster other kinds of development, housing provisions that -- we are, we are open to that. a majory hasn't had impact yet. there is a lot of interest in my
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state and community and i am willing and ready to work on it. what about the available -- host: what about the availability throughout the united states? absolutely, absolutely. and i did yesterday, these ideas are worth exploring, but let's not forget that the basic needs that we have in public health and section eight and these other areas, when you/the budget 20% -- when you cut the budget 20%, these initiatives are less impressive if you are going to be taking away with one hand what you give with the other. but yes, the availability of housing is a major issue. -- that ae that over number of people who are -- who should be eligible for some kind of housing support in this country, only one in four is being served.
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i mean, there are millions of people in this country who are paying over half of their income in rent and living in seriously dilapidated housing. and the waiting list is very long for almost every kind of housing support that we provide. so we need to do right by these communities and by these people. funding these things at a workable level. we have calls lined up for you, our guest. you are on with david price of georgia -- north carolina, i apologize. willard, go ahead. i was wondering, the world going on about global warming, when the sea level rises, everybody is getting close to the coastline. moveousing, where they
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out, where are they going to go to? what do they think about housing for these people when these critical things happen? to be thinking about it, especially in the relief anddisaster recovery. believe me, i come from a state where this issue is close to home. the key word is mitigation. we need to, as we build back, we need to build to better standards and simply not rebuild in certain vulnerable flood zones. we need to not just be having same after flood with the damage being done repetitively. when i first started working on this in the congress, it was a really tough sell to get people to understand what you're talking about. you know? to understand not only that the sea level is rising, but the climate is changing and there are just some areas that will be vulnerable matter what.
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more have gotten more and severe storms, repetitive storms, i really think that most people, including most people in the congress, have come around to the notion that we need to build back in a resilient and sustainable fashion and in some areas just build back in a totally different area. it's a major concern in the context of disaster relief. and what you say also has impacts for when we start producing new housing of all sorts and need to construct it in areas where it will be secure and will be vulnerable to natural disasters. host: carol, north carolina, democratic line. hi. no one -- caller: no one can
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afford to buy a house anywhere because no one is given the pay .aises that have gone up how are people supposed to pay for these properties and afford a house? host: of it -- guest: that's a very important question and you are right about the price of housing. we need to attend to the house the impact. there are programs, the federal housing administration, the veterans administration, there are programs that are designed to make mortgages more affordable. easilygiving credit more with better terms. people need to take advantage of
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those programs if they are eligible and many people are. we also need to get the word out better i think about those programs. homebuyeru are just a and wanting to have a conventional single-family home, you know? there is an aspect of this housing portfolio that can really help you out with those expenses. but in general, you are right, there is a problem here. it's another reason i think to concentrate on the supply of housing. on the availability of housing. the construction of housing. we have more and more people chasing less and less available housing and that of course drives prices up. you represent areas like raleigh, chapel hill, carrie, what's the situation there compared others? guest: i would say that in my
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district of the main issue is affordable housing, with transportation. of course, the two are related, but in the municipal elections it's all about affording housing . and that is a problem that comes with development, with growth. we have healthy growth. at ave people coming in pretty rapid clip to raleigh durham, chapel hill. that means it's a vital, diverse community. we like seeing attractive to the people who want to live there. but it does drive up housing cost among other things. develop,nter cities areas gentrification occurs where the people living there get driven out and before you know it, the housing is just or not -- unaffordable close in. the people that serve our communities and i
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don't think any of us think that's acceptable. teachers, firefighters, law enforcement officers, folks were and haveur communities lived among us for years should not be driven farther and farther out into the outer suburbs, but if you let the market courses -- forces take their course, it's a major political issue in the area i represent. people recognize that it will take some conscious policies and terms of zoning and working with nonprofits and others to construct housing, to make sure that diverse housing remains. have our housing authorities for example working to develop tracks close it in and make these very attractive and have to a diversity of buyers or renters. but it takes conscious government policy to make that happen. illinois, at in line, larry caller: i had a question.
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security and it seems the last two years of five dollar or six dollar raise is what my rent goes up. what's the connection between hud and social security? is there a plan to keep that going? for most people, their rent goes up more than the social security check. if your rent is not going up at a greater rate, you are fortunate in some ways. the social security increases are modest these days. they are tied to the inflation rate. they are -- people struggle, people struggle to live on social security or, or to pay costs that are going up, like rent in the face of a rather flat income. it's a challenge.
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the -- one of the challenges of our affordable housing program is to keep the rent within reach. the guideline for someone being helped with rental expenses, the guideline is that they shouldn't be paying more than 30% of their income in rent. that something a lot, but a lot of people pay more than that. 30% of their income in rent. so those vouchers go to people who can, with that amount of help, can live independently and, as i said earlier, there are some special subcategories, considerations for veterans with disabilities, for the elderly, a lot of these rental programs are targeted towards the elderly. so, the fact that housing costs, not just homebuying, but renting, or whole range of housing cost are rising so high
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is a challenge for our community and is one reason that with this budget that we were discussing yesterday with secretary carson, so much seems to be just running to stay in place. before we can begin to make progress on new construction and expanding our supply of housing, we have got to take care of the rental increases and the increased costs of the programs we already have. so we are trying to get it together and have a positive program for next year. there's an effort on the ways and means committee to get access to the president's tax returns. what do you think of that effort? guest: i think it's very important, and it's being done responsibly and carefully. richie neal has done this right, i think. there is a sound rationale for this. not just with the fact that every president in memory has furnished those returns, but that other are so many questions about this president and the way
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this -- his, his economic affairs may or may not be intertwined with his, his tax status. he keeps talking about being audited, being audited, being audited. part of the responsibility of the ways and means committee is to make sure that those audits are being conducted in a way that is fair and comprehensive. so it's, it's, it's a legal power that the ways and means committee has. they have been very careful until now about waiting until having it exactly formulated. i think it is a sound and important step. guest: what do you think about president's about closing the border? guest: they are highly
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reckless is almost anyone in his own government will tell you. they are scrambling to contain the damage. notion we are in on the border where we are being over and invaded. he is doing these extreme, bizarre things, really, to perpetuate that narrative. he seems to think that his political base wants that and that it is important to his political standing that he keeps this, this fear and a sense of a crisis at the border. of course, the wall is part of that. but this notion that you would close the whole border is the most extreme and bizarre yet. i hope that cooler heads will prevail and that he can be deterred from doing this. a couplere was a story of days ago in "the wall street as a part of the story
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the line said "liberal lawmakers were expected to balk at a proposal that doesn't include lower defense spending, meanwhile more centrist democrats are uncomfortable with proposals that include increased revenue that political attack ads the pic as supporting raising taxes. what do you think of that host: it sounds -- guest: it sounds more difficult than what we actually did yesterday. republicans didn't sometimes to a budget resolution. it's a matter of setting what we must do, the topline numbers so that we can now write appropriations bills and we did that yesterday. admittedly, we didn't solve every problem that you mentioned. is that a tug-of-war, did you think? thinking you start
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will solve all the big debates we are having with a budget resolution, that's probably not likely, not desirable. so, what we did yesterday was more, more just to the point in terms of our immediate needs. we passed a modification of this awful budget control act. that was the agreement that the tea party leadership focused on and forced on president obama back in 2011. that is where the word sequestration came from. and the republicans of course want to force sequestration on us. making appropriations impossible. i will tell you what would happen if we did what they wanted, we would not be able to produce our appropriations bills that we are supposed to. we would have a shutdown or a near shutdown, like the drama we had back in september and october with a budget agreement to patch it together. we want to do better than that. we want to have a topline budget number now that gets off the sequestration level and lets us
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of june -- month right question might these appropriations bills on budget and on time, wouldn't that be refreshing? to pass the bills on time and run the government in an orderly fashion? that is our objective and what we took a giant step towards yesterday. there was still dissent in the ranks, but not nothing we couldn't overcome. so we now have a budget number that will let us write these bills and i do think it will be bipartisan. workthis point on we will in these committees in a cooperative way and i think a good bill will be written. before we go to calls, what's your assessment of the current story about joe biden? howt: you can't tell people to feel or to react in those kinds of situations and i'm not about to judge the reactions. i think they have to be taken seriously. you have to listen to people and
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listen to what people say they experience and feel. i believe that joe biden has done that and he has acknowledged his personal style has -- is due for a reassessment. i think that's what he should do. independent line, colorado springs, elizabeth, hi. caller: good morning, c-span. y'all talking about so many things, touching bases on so much stuff i would love to have the time to talk about, but i don't. so i'm going to say that one of the things you were just talking about is like the immigration. i was a democrat, i feel like i'm independent now. i see things on both sides of the aisle. as far as immigration, i believe that the democrats have got it wrong. you are saying that everybody's
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invited, so it used to be in the constitution and so on, but it's not going to work because the pie is only so big and it can only be sliced up so much. , youi'm seeing is like were talking about housing, i'm a senior and i'm having a hard time finding a place that i want to live. these high rises, you got to take elevators and -- i need to i can getace where out of my car and go into my home. i've got disabilities. i can't walk very well. it's just a mess. skyhigh, asoing so you were just talking. host: thank you.
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guest: i'm have two questions there, at an us try have a good answer on the housing, but i would encourage the caller to with the local housing authority authority and agencies, nonprofit that work on housing and see what might he .vailable there if she is a person with disabilities, there might be some special support there. we have special vouchers set aside for people with disabilities to have a nice, nice apartment and get a little financial help with that. really needs to see what might be available. but what i said earlier holds. the supply of housing is not adequate to everyone who needs that support. she may have a tough time, but i hope she will persevere and see what she can get. in terms of immigration,
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president trump, please don't take trump at his word. he says we have open borders? of course we don't have open borders. on the democratic side in leadership before i was the chair of the home and security committee, i can tell you, we did this carefully and responsibly, we built 650 miles of fence down on the border in places where there was some congestion and a need for that. we didn't build all of that. we built most of it. we also have of course funded , the variouss the aspects of border security. what we have also said, though, is that it's just not a tenable situation and it's not good for anybody to have 11 million people in this country undocumented. we depend on these people in so many ways. many have lived here for years and are waiting for, for legal status. they are working productively. we need that work. we need comprehensive
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immigration reform in a way that will assure the security at the border, but also will give a and, whereal status appropriate, to citizenship for people who really have a lot to contribute. this issue has festered way, way too long and has taken a particularly. went to turn under donald trump. i and many others here have a desperate sense that we have got to fix it. anthony, staten island, you're the last call. go ahead. the first issue i'm calling on, you were talking about housing. where i live in new york, we have people coming from other countries into three or two bedroom apartments that have 20 to 25 people living in the apartments. they rented bed space at $35 a night. that's a tight the market is.
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people coming to the country and there is no place for them to go . the other thing on top of that, they get food stamps and section eight. i'm a retired truck driver. i lost three quarters of my pension. i tried to get food stamps and i was denied the food stamps because i own a home. i'm just rarely holding onto that home right now because of this pension crisis that was created basically by congress. host: sorry, apologize for that, we have to leave it there. inst: well, you know, people this country illegally are not eligible for section eight. people coming into the country who are here legally, the families sometimes do pileup and a lot of people live in, and a little space. that's the way it's been forever. what you say does underscore the shortage of housing that we have and the kinds of pressures we are experiencing. in terms of food stamps and eligibility for mark i have no
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idea why you would have been declared ineligible. i would urge you to pursue your rights if you think they have been denied. and you know, sometimes when people run up against these kinds of problems and cannot get an answer from the bureaucracy, they turned to us, they turn to the congressional office. i don't know who your member of congress is, but i would think that they have a way of taking a complaint like this and helping you check it out if you think you have been dealt with unfairly. host: representative david price, thank you for your time. before the house comes in at 9:00, we will hear from representative andy barr about taxes being imposed on financial services companies. that conversation, coming up. ♪
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every day for those were vulnerable in our environment and show that the world that we leave today is at least as good for our kids and grandkids is a one the we have today. >> poses -- voices from the road, on c-span. -- >> "washington journal" continues. host: joining me for the first time in this program, andy barr of the sixth district and part of the subcommittee on financial services. the ranking member of that subcommittee. there is an issue rising from that concerning the taxation of financial services companies. can you explain that for us? >> we have heard from our democratic counterparts that they will be proposing -- i think the bill may have already been filed, to impose a tax on financial transactions. the stated purpose of this legislation is apparently to get at high-frequency trading and to
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i guess disrupt high-frequency trading, but also i think to raise revenue. it's just a revenue raising proposal to a think pay for some of the green new deal and some of the medicare for all proposals and big spending proposals coming out of the new democratic majority. they argue that this would raise 770 billionver dollars over 10 years and in truth, not only do i doubt that to be the case because of the disruption in economic activity, but this would make america much less competitive and it would punish savings at a time when we have a personal savings crisis in this country and we don't need to be taxing middle-class saving, we need to be rewarding and encouraging middle-class savings. trading,h-frequency excellent how that works. there were concerns that that caused some of the fluctuations in markets, there's a connection there? again, that's the stated
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purpose of the tax, but i think the real reason is just to raise more revenue for more government spending, a green new deal, socialized medicine and new proposals from the democratic-socialist in the democratic party. i would note that many of my democratic colleagues, representative foster, representative meeks from new york have expressed concern over this proposal be precisely because they recognize it perhaps unintended consequences of this financial transaction tax, which would be to punish middle-class savings. 50% of americans invested in equities are middle-class savers. 401k pensioners, middle-class workers saving for retirement. analysis, thisme transaction tax would require middle-class workers to work an additional two years in order to achieve the same retirement savings and retirement security
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required if they didn't have this transaction tax. what happens is when an american invests in a mutual fund, the transaction tax would be imposed on every trade of every stock and every bond, every derivative. as a portfolio manager, a mutual wouldanager, they rebalance the mutual fund, as is required to adequately diversify and obtain returns that are needed, every, trade would happen, they would be this hit, this tax. that would eat into the returns very quickly. so ultimately, this is really not a way to get at high-frequency trading. it's really an attack on middle-class retirement savings. our guest is with us until 9:00, until the house comes in. if you want to ask you about this republican -- this
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proposal, it's (202) 748-8001, for republicans. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. (202) 748-8002 four independents . is there a alternative from the republicans about what to do about it? guest: that's a legitimate question and i think that high-frequency trading should be dealt with. there is purposeful -- there is purpose to these trades. itre is an argument that provides necessary liquidity for capital markets. in the united states we do enjoy the deepest, most liquid capital wekets on the planet because have active free markets and we need to preserve and protect that for american competitiveness. not just for savings for college, retirement savings, and creating access for savers to the markets so that they can achieve their financial goals, but also for capital formation,
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in order to provide liquidity, to provide the liquidity for small business formation, for entrepreneurs and homeowners it's vital that we continue to preserve the futures of our capital markets that make it dynamic, that make it attractive for investors, not just in the united states, but globally. we want capital markets to be a destination for capital and a financial transaction tax would not raise what opponents are advocating for because what it would ultimately do and we have seen this in other jurisdictions , the capital flees. the capital will go to other markets around the world. we want the united states to maintain its position as the eminent destination for capital. host: we have a call for you from charlie in florida. you are on with andy barr, republican of kentucky. go ahead. caller: i think that
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high-frequency trading make it an uneven playing field. everyone in the market gets their trades put in last and they miss the highs and lows. you are talking about the 401(k) and stuff, it just winds up flatlining because the hedge fund guys get all the fluctuations in take advantage of the fluctuations the co on. the taxes need to be gotten back into the government to help support the things like the new deal, the progressive ideas are great. the crony capitalism type of thing that supports the reelection of you guys every year, just because you won't increase tax -- taxes on people, it's got to end. you have been ruining the country since 1980. give it up. start taxing the people that need to be taxed and get the country back on a financial foothold that will last for ever instead of running up $22 trillion in debt. guest: thank you for your comment. i don't think the american
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people pay too little in taxes, i think that americans pay too much in taxes. the revenues to the federal government have never been higher, including after the passage of the tax cut jobs act that was targeted to make american businesses not only more competitive globally, but also for middle-class families, especially those with kids, providing them with relief from the burdens of taxes. we think that the american people should keep more of what they earn as opposed to growing ,overnment in washington, d.c. but to the point you are making, i don't necessarily agree with you and i think it's a legitimate policy question for the securities and exchange commission and the financial services committee in congress. we want to make sure that investors quickly, retail investors do not feel like the system is rigged and we need investors to have confidence in the transparency and the
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accountability of our financial markets. i think it's altogether appropriate that the x -- that the securities and exchange commission look at a regulatory regime that makes sure there is a level playing field with transparency in that people know that high-frequency traders are not rigging the system. i think it's a legitimate issue, but it should not be dealt with in this very noncompetitive, anti-competitive financial transaction tax proposal that is nothing more than a revenue grab and an attack on the class retirement savers. what we should do is look at a regulation that creates transparency in our financial markets so that retail and main street investors have confidence that the system is fair. host: from texas, independent line, john, hello. this whole notion of everything for wall street and nothing for main street has to come to an end. people like your guest on the
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program right now, they are neoliberals. everyone should look that up. everyone who supports free and untaxed markets for the rich, that's not true conservatism and never has been. they are neoliberals who promote a system in which everything is for the rich and powerful and nothing is for main street. it has to come to an end. so what's the conservative position, then? caller: a banking system that enslaves everyone through a corrupt brett -- banking system? these people are literally traders to society. host: ok, you made your statement. weler: we need to -- guest: need to recognize that capitalism has been the greatest source of upward mobility that the world has ever known. the united states is a prosperous country and we have upward mobility because we have robust free enterprise in this country. it is precisely when the intervenes
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excessively in the financial markets, in the economy, when we see poverty. that's where we see poverty exacerbated. americans that don't have the opportunity for upward mobility. you know, americans need access to credit, to capital, to financial markets where they can save for college for their kids, for retirement or to buy a home. when we make our financial markets less competitive, when returns are not as great, that means that middle-class americans struggle to get ahead. i think that not only do we need to allow americans to keep more of what they earn in terms of awarding tax cuts, we also need to make sure that financial regulation is properly tailored and calibrated in a way that creates economic growth. we have economic growth in this country, fortunately, over 3% in the last year. wages are up. unemployment is historically low
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precisely because of the tax cuts, because of the fiscal policies put into place by the last congress and in part because of the financial deregulation that was passed in a bipartisan way. host: we show the debt clock a lot. of people associate that to the tax cuts. you don't make those connections? guest: not at all. for every 1% increase in gross domestic product, the federal government is taking in over $350 billion more in revenue on an annual basis. the congressional budget office has recalibrated the score on the tax code after seeing that economic growth that hasn't sued as a result, why are we still seeing trillion dollar deficits every year? because of autopilot spending that continues to get away from this country because politicians
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in washington continue to refuse to make the decisions to reform our mandatory spending programs. tax cuts are a vital part of economic growth that is in turn a vital part of fiscal responsibility and balancing the budget. you obviously need some taxes to bring revenue in to pay for government services, but when toogovernment confiscates much, you are suppressing economic activity and guess what question my means less taxpayers and people are less prosperous, their income is lower. so, economic growth for tax cuts is a really important part of balancing the budget. the federal reserve expressed concerns over the sustainability of the cbo. we monitor this in the financial services committee. jay powell comes before our committee to give his economic outlook.
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his outlook remains very positive right now, despite headwinds with a slowdown in global growth in china and europe, trade uncertainty and other factors like monetary normalization that we are seeing , interest rates rising last year, the fed has taken a pause on that. despite that, the federal still putting forward a positive overall positive outlook on the economy. why? the tax cuts are not a one-time sugar high. especially the permanent changes in the corporate tax rate and the provision to make it 100% expensing. that is why we have seen capital expenditures increased. that means more jobs, higher productivity. those are reforms that we need to make permanent in order to continue this long expansion. let's hear from massachusetts, republican line, colleen, go ahead. caller: thank you for being
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today's guest. i agree with everything you are saying. i am 70 and i have had to take mandatory take from my pension. and one third of it goes to the government. you are so right, the government regulations in pensions and income are way too high. i shouldn't be -- i should beginning most of that money. i should not be putting it back into the government. money, theme of this government takes, takes away from my social security. and increases the amounts i have to pay for medicare. and then, if i get pushed up into a higher rate where a pay an even higher income tax, i
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have decided to not even put money into the stock market. i'm trying to take money out so i don't have to pay as much tax. guest: you are exactly right. you shouldn't be being punished for a lifetime of earnings and savings. the government should encourage that. we have a personal savings crisis in this country. it's estimated by the fed that 50% of the american people if they had to come up with $400 in two weeks, they couldn't do it. it's coming at a time when social security is, as a percentage of what is required to replace income from work when you retire, it's becoming a smaller and smaller percentage. as student loan debt increases, that's putting off retirement savings for young people. and compound interest means you have to start saving when you are young to meet your
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retirement goals. so, you are absolutely right. there are some reform proposals in the ways and means committee that would increase some of the thresholds on the limits that would -- that would make retirement savings pay off a little bit more for our tax code. tohink those are good ideas encourage savings and provide retirees that later -- greater flexibility. ways and mentioned the means committee. what do you think of the effort to get the tax returns? >> i agree with kevin brady in the letter that he sent to the irs commissioner. that while certainly, the ways and means committee and the congress have broad oversight responsibility over the administration of the tax code, there is in federal tax law privacy prisons as well and a fishing expedition or a witchhunt based on politics is a
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dangerous precedent. weaponizing the tax code for politics is a very, very bad idea and a dangerous precedent. what i would say to my friends on the other side of the aisle seeking the presidents tax returns is -- show us the legitimate legislative purpose for doing so. if this is just about attacking the president for his private he was president or trying to score cheap political points, that is inconsistent with the law. if there is a legitimate legislative purpose, i think that oversight is altogether responsible and appropriate and the legislative branch regardless of who is in the white house or who is in the robustwe should have oversight and it should be a check and a balance between the legislative and congressional branches. i say this is the ranking member financial services oversight committee, legislative oversight is not unlimited. there has to be a connection, a nexus for a legitimate policy
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purpose. i think that the burden is on chairman neil and the democrats on the house ways and means committee to demonstrate the legitimate legislative purpose for obtaining the president's personal tax returns. they really have no connection i can see with his was -- his official responsibilities. host: doug, south dakota, good morning. caller: the cause of taxes, not spending, you guys get $750 billion for services? pretty soon you will want to be cutting social security with half of the people that got money from the stock market, most of them being the richer people, but it sounds to me like you want to grab that social security report because you don't want to cut funding to the military. and then tell me something about cap -- capitalism.
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how does capitalism work with health care? you have insurance companies sending you to certain spots. how does capitalism work there? have a good day. the first point about social security, is actually the reverse. republicans in congress want to protect and preserve social security. socialatest threat to security our politicians in washington, who want to put their heads in the sand and deny that there is an actuarial problem. there is a problem with social security and medicare, they are unsustainable. don't take my word for it, it's the trustees who tell us that if we don't make some important reforms to those programs, especially for young people, the government will break its future generations of retirees. that's not fair, we don't want that. social security is a contact in the government and the taxpayers
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. the taxpayers have made investments in social security through their payroll taxes over the years and the last and we want is when young people retire, the government breaks their promises and not be able to pay those benefits. i think the greatest threat to social security is for us to not reform. i think that if we take action with social security and medicare now, sooner rather than later, be honest with the american people that there is a problem, that there is an actuarial solvency problem with those rogue rams, we can preserve the benefit structure of those programs for current retirees right now and we can change the way the system works for young people who are just entering the workforce now and for future generations of americans in a way that will allow the federal government to keep promises when they retire. that is point number one. point number two about
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capitalism and health care, it's precisely because don't have free markets functioning properly that we do have problems with health care. intervention by the government in health care is what has created these massive distortions. look, i'm for a safety net. medicare and medicaid are appropriate for taking care of the people i cannot work, and the elderly. absolutely. but the way those systems, those programs will function properly is if you have a robust private health insurance marketplace, a competitive private health insurance marketplace that compensates providers adequately so that there is an incentive for doctors, nurses, and hospitals to participate in those programs. we have a shortage of providers in the country right now and obamacare and some of the other interventions in the private health insurance marketplace have exacerbated the shortage of health care providers precisely because there is too much
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government, not too little. host: you extended an invitation to a cause he'll cortez in new york. what was it? was advocating for her green new deal. what we have seen -- i took the opportunity to invite her to kentucky, where we have lost over 8000 coal mining jobs over the last decade because of the war on coal, because of overregulation. i think that it's always good for all of us to have an open mind about things and when you put out a breath -- a proposal, a costly proposal of socialism and central planning, i think it's incumbent upon any member who offers such a program to learn about what the real world implications of that would be. i invited her to come to kentucky and meet these struggling coal miners and their families whose paychecks are being diminished and who are losing their jobs as a result. my point to her, and i applaud her passion. she's clearly genuine in her concern about climate change and
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some of the environmental impacts of fossil energy that she sees. but my only point is that we should not just me -- we should ,e climate thinkers, not just you know, advocates for central planning and socialism. we should think about the costs and benefits and the reality is that moving to the plan, moving in 10ero emission economy years, only 17% of the u.s. energy mix right now is renewable. that be toould promote green energy. our goal should be to promote the most abundant, affordable, reliable energy and innovate, unleash free enterprise. to the extent that we have a problem with climate change, why do we think another thousand pages in the federal registry will change the weather? the reality is that technology, innovation, free enterprise, that is how the united states is
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always solved problems. guest: has she accepted? -- host: has she accepted? she has, we are working on the details and i am looking forward to that. , want her to come to kentucky learn more about the fossil energy industry. some of the innovative things they are doing to provide carbon capture and better ways through technology and innovation of cleanburning fossil energy in a more clean way. think that once she sees that and sees that these paychecks are really dependent on fossil energy, she might have, shiite have a different idea on how we really address the environmental issues, which is to develop these technologies and then export u.s. technology to china, india, these countries that are the true polluters. rub --ur guest,
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representative andy barr, thank you for your time this morning. a first visit, thank you. guest: great to be with you, pedro. host: the violence against women act, being debated now in the house, coming up in a moment. if you go to our website and pay attention to the left side, we will show you all of the events that we are taking in and that you can see on our various networks. that's all available to you at house of representatives is again about to come in, we will take you to them now. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2019]


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