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i would be honored if you would join me in this mission. congressman bolton is scheduled to visit all for early voting primary and caucus states this week. he has to new hampshire on tuesday and wednesday morning, he headlines in politics and eggs breakfast. campaigns in south carolina, which holds the pro-southern primary. thursday, stops in iowa, which kicks off the caucus and primary calendar, as well as nevada, which owes the first western contest. at our table this morning, anna palmer and jake sherman, co-authors of this book, "the hill to die on: the battle for congress and the future of trump's america." jake sherman, the hill to die on, that title, which is a come from? jake: we chose the title before we wrote the book, which is a dangerous thing to do. we thought two things. number one, we thought, but capitol hill, as we've been covering, is the place where a lot of legislation goes to die.
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it's a health legislation dies on. makeslso a title that sense, because there are issues where members of congress die on. immigration reform. formally, federal spending. it had a double entendre in our minds. >> what does it mean over the last few years in a truck era? jake: you saw the end of 2018, republicans died on the immigration held. government to the change the immigration laws of the country. others, health care and tax reform. those are the hills to die on. >> when did you know you had a buck? anna: we talked about writing a book for a long time. we think capitol hill is the most interesting place in all of washington. 535 members of congress. we had an extreme of access to them. we knew after donald trump was
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he promised to come into washington and upend the ways things are done. all the power was in republicans hands. we cannot imagine the ark. we could have predicted it. paul ryan stepping down. house republicans losing their majority. that wein characters were covering, but also this through line of immigration and these massive fights. we knew there was a buck, but we got lucky. >> over the past two years, we have had this special counsel investigation. now that it is out, when you look back on what you're writing, does it jive with what you were reporting? jake: we stayed away from the special counsel investigation, because we felt it was a book of its own. like we get -- we could get our arms around it i could do it justice. interviewedo it and
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devin nunes, who was the chairman of the house intelligence committee about it. interestingly enough, he spoke about bob mueller in the book. he spoke about how bob mueller would find no collusion. that's what he was there to look for. the politics of it, we stayed away from. we wanted to focus on the way donald trump interacted with capitol hill. we wanted to see a book where if you wanted to understand how congress worked, both in donald trump's era and in others, this would be a book you can read at any time where you could understand the roadmap to getting things done or not. >> let's start with his relationship with paul ryan. complicated. anna: one of the things we found, that we didn't know but wasily going in, how bad their relationship was throughout the entire two years of his presidency.
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we sat down with the president in the oval office, and we asked about his feelings with different members of the leadership. we reminded him that can't wasn't there with you before the election. paul."ed him "foxhole there were moments in this book were privately, the speaker and president were at each other's throats, yelling at each other over different policy issues. trump look at what donald stands for and what paul ryan stands for, it is two different republican orthodoxies. ryan trying to be -- trying to get things done that donald trump wanted that works his policy priorities. >> you write about how this tension began, before the election happened, paul ryan was not on board with electing donald trump. jake: a lot of people forget that now, that paul ryan was basically a never trumper during
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the election. he was not photographed once with donald trump. even at the convention in cleveland, which paul ryan and nominated donald trump. that's an amazing thing to think about. that's how much distance was -- there was. felt like donald trump's election brought him to a fork in the road. his republican party had fallen away. he either had to get on board with trump, or leave congress. congressered leaving for many months leading up to the election, when he thought hillary clinton would be president. at that point, he decided to stay in government. he wanted to project that there were normal people and government. -- we not believe that he were about to enter a normal. of governing -- a normal period of governing. us, if i just to talked and puffed and took my
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toys on, that would other than good for anybody. that's an amazing admission from a speaker of a house talking about a president of his own party. >> the book goes beyond paul ryan. it talks about the relationships the president has with the freedom caucus, that name is familiar to our viewers. native policy, chuck schumer, mitch mcconnell, etc. we will take your comments. over the past two years, this is the book, "the hill to die on: the battle for congress and the frome of trump's america," the perspective of capitol hill, trumprst two years of the administration. before you that fork in the road, he makes a phone call to mitch mcconnell about whether or not he can stay with mr. trump. anna: it's pretty stunning. election, hethe was going to let his members say, do what you need to do to win.
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use considering making a public announcement that he was not with the president. mcconnell, it gives an insight into how he leads, he said, keep talking. don't do that. mitch mcconnell thought it would of been the end of the book that republican party. they needed to be with this president, because he was going to be the party's nominee. >> talk about the relationship between mitch mcconnell and this president. how often do they talk? how this to navigated the last two years? jake: they spoke a lot. mitch mcconnell went up to trump tower days after the election. december 2016. he convinced the president and discuss with them his plans for the judiciary. how to take over. how they were going to work with don mcgann, the white house counsel to time, how to control
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the nominees. all courts. he wanted to remake the judiciary. mitch mcconnell stuck with donald trump and stuck with brett kavanaugh through a tumultuous supreme court nomination. they worked together to deliver donald trump to -- two supreme court justices. mitch mcconnell quietly and assuming -- on assumedly has reshaped the judiciary. something he will be known for for many years after he leaves office. >> talk more about the role that senator mitch mcconnell play behind the scenes during the kavanaugh hearings. the viewership of those hearings, was unbelievable. people watch this. they had no idea -- watched this. they had no idea what mitch mcconnell was doing. anna: it was probably the tenses i have ever seen -- tensest i've
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ever seen the public around one issue. you saw mitch mcconnell going up every day. he was the steady hand behind the scenes that kept pressing forward. he felt they needed to confirm judge kavanaugh. even when they had to stop things a little bit and have the investigation, he was always saying, how do you get through the process? he made conversations with the president throughout this. thatuck with it in a way is a fascination about who is mitch mcconnell, how he took on the kavanaugh nomination is how he leads. he picks the endpoint of his but he always much gets what he wants done. jake: the interesting thing about that process was, during the supreme court nomination, the president and mitch mcconnell spoke.
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mitch mcconnell told the president, you better be able to pop another supreme court nominee into this if kavanaugh comes sideways. during the hearing, when christine blasey ford testified, mitch mcconnell told -- called trump, after her testimonial and said, we are at halftime. let's see where we are at the end of the game. after caven cannot angry -- kavanaugh cannot angry, mitch mcconnell said there was no more discussion of having to abandon him. they went forward with the nomination. our interview,in gave mcconnell tons of credit. he said mitch was very strong. >> talk about what republicans accomplished while they controlled both chambers and the white house. they got a once in a generation tax bill through. that was the biggest compliment by far.
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you forget, because there some things happening, health care implement quickly in the beginning -- imploded quickly in the beginning of the first term. desperation onl the book that republican side to get something done. they thought there was not going to be any issues for the midterms. the tax reform bill. jake: the judiciary is a big thing. we saw a reshaping of the republican party, more than any single significant legislative a compliment. we were saying that it was remade in the president's issue. we don't know what that means for the long-term. we didn't set out to write a book about what this means 60 years from now. -- about therom behind-the-scenes, what happened and how we got from a to b. how people exercise power.
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that's what we saw out to do. chronicle have people exercise power, which is something that we believe can only be done after the fact. after two years seeing the arc of characters in the book. without that was the best way to chronicle that >> another character is the freedom caucus. mark meadows and jim jordan. talk about the roles they played. anna: they really see themselves as the keepers of trump's creed. they want to keep him to be as conservative as possible. president does not care about deficits and spending that republicans did four years. they saw that impact on immigration. there's a quote in the book from mark meadows where he says, he
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felt like rubber when the shutdown, whether it was the president or pelosi, weber blinked,- whoever would be the most powerful person in washington over the next two years. we got to that because the president is an unconventional guide. because them up and talk to them a lot. -- he called them up and talks to them a lot. jake: jim jordan and mark meadows with the two more -- most powerful people from 2016-2018. you can argue paul ryan and mitch mcconnell were equally powerful. but this is a story. a small group of -- historic. republicans, 20 or so, controlled the house of -- represent us. -- representatives. you had two men, mark meadows is the strategist and tactician.
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jim jordan is the ideological center of the freedom caucus. how they worked congress to their well, it is something unlike anything we have seen in the 10 years i've covered congress. when theewers saw it john boehner -- when john boehner sat -- stepped down. paul ryan takes over. they had their eyes on replacing paul ryan. jake: they did. the book opens with a large scene of mark meadows and jim jordan hatching a plan to go to new york and go on fox news, the president's preferred network, if hillary clinton had one and announced that jim gordon -- jim jordan was going to take on paul ryan, as they did not think he was a strong enough supporter during the campaign. how could they continue on with this leader? they pulled back one donald trump one. they had an ally who would listen to them in the white house.
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this relationship blossomed. when the president felt the president018, followed jim jordan and mark meadows and shut down the government for 35 days. book, onebe, in our of the larger staying points. one of the historic markers we've set about how much they use their power. >> described the text paul ryan sent to mark meadows. whispersre's a lot of and rarely, things stay quiet. he heard that the freedom caucus was considering taking him out. words, were like, if you're going to take me out, let the know, with some shamrock emojis.
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they didn't move forward with it, but it was well now they were considering and thinking about it. jake: they were gathered in mark meadows' apartment. it was a real thing. it was not a big idea. -- vague idea. >> gathered in their apartment with reporters taking it out. what happens in the 2018 election? how does the president react to the outcome? who does he hold responsible? jake: he holds paul ryan responsible. without taking sides, the evidence is overwhelming that paul ryan raised massive amounts of money and did what he could to keep the house in republican hands. it was not successful. his history said he would not be successful. the president blamed--he didn't take any blame himself. he said people were with him and people miss captivated. that is it -- miscalculated.
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he said u.s. something remarkable, which was, he was happy in the sense that republicans didn't control the house, because they had too many nitpicky legislative demands. he thought with democrats, he would say, or bill, and i will see if i can sign it. that is simplistic, considering the senate's arc and -- the senate was controlled by republicans. in 2019.re we are what is his relationship with nancy pelosi? it's very interesting. as frogs as a relationship as the president had with paul ryan, he seems to have a reverence, if not a reverence, a respect. one of the things he was clear with the interview we had with him, was that he respected the fact that democrats stuck together. said, they have lousy policies, but he respected the fact that when she wanted to get
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some things done, or troops stuck with her. you have to realize they have known each other for a long time. there's more in common -- he has more in common with chuck schumer and nancy pelosi. aboutyour book, you talk he wouldn't even give -- get some republicans to vote for her. jake: when she was struggling to two what appeared to be an insurgency among some of the younger members of her caucus, donald trump said to us, expected the house freedom caucus would support nancy pelosi, because the president thought she deserved it. it's tough at times, and we , we don't have long-standing relationships with the president like some of his of visors do, so we don't know when he is blowing smoke. or being serious. you have to take him at his word that he believed, because he went into detail, that the most
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ardent members of the freedom caucus would support nancy pelosi, which, it is encapsulating of a very odd worldview, which is that the people who stood up to the president for all of these years, and were huge -- to accuse particle risks, would turn around and support nancy pelosi, republicans who spent hundreds of millions of dollars tried to tarnish her. >> what is his relationship like with chuck schumer? jake: he has a long-standing relationship with him, too. they cut a deal in 2017 to keep the government-funded. they're both new yorkers. chuck schumer's in-laws lived in a trump apartment building in new york and were always taken by fred trumps the missing. -- limousine. it's an interesting relationship. you don't agree much of policy. thought trumpmer
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would be will to step right and left. be a conservative and a liberal sometimes. he thought he would be unstoppable. it is now nonexistent. >> let's hear what our viewers have to say. kenneth in arkansas, a democrat. good morning. >> good morning. one point to shock them. i hope you don't call me off. i tried to tell the public what was going on. donald trump running for president, hit a couple things he wanted to do. he picked jeff sessions as is ag, so we could cover up the criminal stuff. then he went to mitch mcconnell, so you cannot get impeached in the senate. once he did that, he hired mitch mcconnell's wife as the transportation secretary. he is a check coming into his house. he gets paid. his wife works for donald trump. a lot of people don't understand what is going on. the meal a report, i've been watching this whole thing.
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donald trump does not fight fair. said one thing, once they picked that special counsel, he said he was f'ed. he knew if he didn't take -- keep jeff sessions in there, once the special counsel came in, they were going to uncover all that dirt. that is why he knew he was in trouble. >> i'm going to leave it there. the house is coming in for a session. i want to give you to a chance to respond. kenneth is bringing us to today's news. where are democrats going to go next with his mule report? what are the prospects of i think the anna: possibility of impeachment is low. there are no republicans in the senate saying is trying to move forward. you're seeing a lot of caution on the behalf of nancy pelosi to give her troops room to breathe.
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there -- democrats see it as a full's errand and something that will come back and bite them in sit of being a political plus. -- democrats have will have a conference call to discuss the idea of impeachment. william barr testifying may 1 into, what do you expect that to look like, what do you expect to come out of that? guess: bill barr has been steely in his resolve, he said he -- it seems he said everything he
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believes in that press conference and has testified already on capitol hill, there meat to that. host: what is the reaction on capitol hill? guest: democrats are upset with -- some republicans have been surprised at the press conference and the rollout of this report. want him by may 23. he is not getting any public indication he will be testifying . there will be some restrictions based on whether he is still working for the justice department by then or not. bill barr said he had no specific presidents or reservations about him testifying but we do not have a date yet. unless i've missed something, i am not sure that has been any public commitment. where l barve seen is on this.
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esther moeller has been very quiet and so it would be the biggest zoo of reporters. he or how has he reacted over the years to the big policy debates, first of all, let's take the wall and how that factored into the first two years and the election. guest: there was no question. people were surprised the fervor with which donald trump west for the wall. it should have been no supplies. he got elected on restrictive border policies, restrictive immigration and putting a physical barrier on the border with mexico, so to me, he was his hill to dyad and he felt like he was misled by paul ryan specifically. mitch mcconnell less so about when he would get the money for the border wall. missed a few times -- but donald trump lashed
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out, to paul ryan and at the democrats about congress's inability to give him this money. >> here is a lot about this issue in a way that you did not hear, the tax reform, he really wanted to get a win and this is something that he did not , he did campaign on a border wall. and that having a physical barrier and that is something he pushed for the entire first two years of his administration and midterms. host: what was his reaction to the efforts of republicans in the house and senate on health -- health care?
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guest: a lot of people disagreed with that strategy. infrastructure first or tax reform where you had a lot more agreement among republicans. health care is extremely complicated as we know and as they found out. it got his presidency off to a rough start. >> what do republicans think about his efforts to repeal obama care? >> there was a great moment and retrospectively it is telling. the president said early on, her new health care could be so hard? obviously, everyone knew that besides him because the president had spent his life in marketing and real estate. his view was uninformed but he thought it should have been much easier. he vacillated between repeal it now, replace it later or let's
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get a big plan to -- plan together. he called up our friend bob costa and said we will have health care for everybody which was obviously not even close to republicans had been advocating for for the past decade or so. the hill generally speaking, house republicans, it was their first legislative battle. they were getting to know each other. paul ryan called the president and said let me take the arrows, this will be my last job in politics which is a telling moment from the speaker to the president. a rocky to say the least road. two years of the trump presidency, those key debates, the discussions that were happening in washington, there were questions and comments. george, maryland, independent. go ahead.
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caller: thanks for taking my call. i wanted to ask your guests, they were talking about the freedom for him and how those 20 or so guys had an outsized influence and controlled a lot of things and i had not heard the guests mentioned, is not because of the has to girl -- they w not pass with a minority ofill republicans and a majority of democrats and is not why the freedom form was so influential? that is more of a suggestion that it is a role. the idea behind the rule is that if you have a majority you should use your majority to enact legislation the majority wants. that is who the american voters entrusted with power them of that party, and you should not rely on the minority to pass legislation.
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a lot of people would believe that is the proper exercise of power. i think in our system of government, the fact that the majority uses its majority to pass legislation would lead to that small of a number of people being influential. i don't think that is odd. become a lot more powerful. people think it is more powerful than it is. members banded together with the purpose of blocking legislation that the speaker wanted. individual votes but with the strategy of blocking. host: democrat. are you there? go ahead with your question or comment. we will go to barney. independent. -- caller: i did not
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i don't thinkand i dreamed of that trump was on the telephone with the president of mexico and made a comment about that the business about the wall was for domestic consumption. not hear that brought up recently. of the authors know anything about that? host: anyone of you? guest: he said it was a domestic political issue that he used in his campaign. it would be an incorrect suggestion to, especially given what we know for the last two years to suggest the president did not want this border wall on the border with mexico. it might have been a domestic political issue at one point,
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but the government was shut down for 35 days impacting a lot of people and the federal government for this wall. guest: it will not impact trade. as much as it impacts the border, it also impacts billions of dollars of trade that is happening with mexico. remind viewers what is happening behind the scenes, how did it come about and during that 35 days, what is happening in this relationship between capitol hill and the white house. guest: government funding was running out and the president was angry that there was no one -- there wasation no money for the wall and paul ryan tried to swing to the president shutting down the government is not going to bring you any closer to getting this while. that president jim baird because he did not believe that paul ryan and mitch mcconnell had his best interests at heart and
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stuck with mark meadows and jim jordan who helped them down this path that led him to a 35 day shut -- shutdown with the president's son who had been a real estate executive, his family thought he could get an immigration compromise with little evidence that he could. i think you saw the inexperience and the inability of the white house combined with a deflated andblican party and in bold democratic majority and donald trump linked. he did not get the wall, declared an emergency later on and believes he is getting the wall he wants at the end of the day. host: david in grand rapids, michigan, democrat. caller: since the beginning you are talking about accomplishments from donald the duck trump. you were saying that the only
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thing he has done is pass that tax thing. that is my point to republicans who keep saying he did all this stuff. no, all he has done is lined his pockets of himself and his other rich white buddies. so to say that he has done this country good, that is a blind statement. that he has not done anything. all he has done is divided this country. my other thing to is that i do not see him getting reelected mainly because people do not like him. people realize that. there is a lot of people out there that realize they made a mistake. i will take that point. what is the prognosis of his reelection? from republicans. his supportersw
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are still with him. the economy is still pretty good. you look at the key indicators of those that do support him, he is doing well and we talk a lot about this. privately and publicly. we looked at that with the thats and gerrymandering is happening. there are a lot of republicans that go home and they get asked, why are you defending -- why are you not defending him more? is a real there support for him and he has a lot of money to spend, there is going to be a strong fight. guest: it will be interesting to see the -- if the president can pull out the same coalition of voters who think he was suited to break the gridlock and whether they believe he has and still can. i believe that a lot of republicans are looking at a dozen people look -- running for
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president and believe the party's being yanked to the left which they believe is not where the country wants to go. russell in hollywood, florida, independent. you look at our country and the only thing we need to focus on is how we can stop demonizing each other and throwing false allegations around of each other as though .t does not mean anything if you continually do this there is an old saying that united we stand, divided we fall. it is not a joke, it is for real. host: let's go on to pennsylvania. in quakertown, pennsylvania, democrat. caller: i have a question about a comment that i have heard during the kavanaugh hearings and it had to do with the supreme court justice meeting
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, and ath the president ivanka trump about his stepping down and a comment was made by a reporter who stated that kennedy's son was the one who lent donald trump all of his money and was someone who worked at deutsche bank. i found this horrible and i could not believe it. that is why i'm asking for clarification. if that is true, we don't even have any kind of integrity within the supreme court. thank you very much and i appreciate your answer. guest: there were reports that the president knew justice kennedy's son who did work at deutsche bank at some point, justice kennedy was on the watchlist to retire for many years and was, i don't know his exact age but was certainly of age, a normal age to retire from the supreme court. justice kennedy did give the white house as is customary advance notice that he was,
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although not much notice that he was going to step down. mitch mcconnell was surprised. someone it watches the courts more than anybody. from young wood, pennsylvania, republican. caller: about that call, i would like to know how the clintons who are worth $350 million when they left the white house broke. thatone host their said about trump being inexperienced, i would like to know what eight years of obama did you give me some accomplishments there. we have universal health care and we know what happened with that. and finally, you talk about the russians, who was president during the election? the 2016 16dent and election, so who's responsibility was that to protect the american people and american integrity? thank you. host: east chicago, indiana, democrat. caller: good morning, thank you
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for c-span, big watcher, my favorite tv show and it is lovely to see your face. do not cut your hair, i love it. after all this at the feet of mitch mcconnell, wasn't it two weeks after obama was elected, he made the statement, we will not do anything to help this president succeed? and the next eight years, they were the party of no. and it stayed that way. when trump came in, he had no agenda of his own. [indiscernible] what was saying. he figured republicans would bail him out. did the president have no agenda of his own? control thean presidency. you work with your colleagues and there are people who were here for to one eplus years who have been trying to get their
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policies enacted. this president wanted to work with the republicans. he cannot do anything on his own. we have seen this with his border while funding. he has not gotten it. national ---- and he tried a national emergency. he has a very successful on rolling back relationships that what happened in at the agency level. guest: republicans were given all branches of mandate. as mitch mcconnell likes to say, the market people prefer a divided government. those rare times when you have all levers of power, you try to use them. jim in sunrise, florida, republican. >> everyone is talking about donald trump but i was born and raised in new york through the 1960's and 1970's and what happened to new york city, mr.
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trump was part of that, the building up of new york again. his resume is second to none. the man is superman in my opinion. and i was a democrat. i would like to say this, back -- these people are superman and for anybody in their right mind to disagree, that is the wrong statement, or to understand does not have a plan, keep watching. we are winning again and being respected from the world. there is no doubt, i don't know where these people are coming from. how do members of congress, republicans view the president's family? those that are involved in his inner circle in the white house, his daughter and son-in-law? i think it is
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complicated. probably to say the least. they are trying to communicate with her as a way to get the president. with terror there has been more frustration as someone who came in him he was going to change the way washington worked, pretty naive. we report in the book, that was stopped pretty quickly. host: you have one part of the look where he -- what he said to senator mccain. guest: he was in the oval office and john mccain was talking about merit -- military procurement reform and jared kushner says, don't worry, we are going to change the government and john mccain said good luck, son. there is an almost cartoonish idea that you could walk into a town them a that is not just people in the trump administration. barack obama thought he was
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coming in and changing the culture. each president does to a degree but no one does as much as they think they would. washington is not a city that is going to change quickly. there is a lot of money and a lot of everything. i think a lot of it is cartoonish in the sense you could walk in and change the way of thing works. color, bedford, ohio. caller: that is a bad situation that donald trump put his family and. family should not ian. question is, why is he, he is still trying to run the country question mark i think that is wrong. there should be a block on him doing so much. his businesses are still having financial gain.
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other he did not do what people dead in the senate. this president would say iran is a businessman, everyone knew that is what i would do and it should not be surprising. trump administration is suing representative comings. the complaint argues there is no legitimate legislative -- thesee and mentions are the same types of arguments trump's lawyers would make in a legal fight over the president's tax returns. guest: we agree on this point, democrats, the trump administration and the president have said anything about his business life is out of bounds. they can make a substantive is nott that -- congress
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the fbi. they cannot go in and charge the president for things he did before his presidency. democrats would say we are trying to understand what drives the president and we need to understand his business ties before he was in the white house. democrats realize there is political risk. host: george in new jersey, democrat. caller: thank you for taking my call. the first thing i would say is a quick point did it took a special prosecutor to do the job of the free press in the u.s. and that is by questioning the strawman argument of sarah sanders. i wonder if this now could possibly be considered a turning point that we will now see the press start to question the strawman argument. we have an event that is about to start.
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guest: most people would argue that the press has been probing of donald trump and everything about him, including people in his administration. host: the book is the hill to die on. thank you for the conversation this morning. appreciate it. >> c-span's "washington journal, live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. morning, auesday discussion of campaign 2020 and where candidates stand on energy and environmental issues. heather connolly, for the -- former assistant secretary of state for european and eurasian affairs talks about the mueller report findings on russian interference in the 2016 u.s. election. be sure to watch "washington journal" live at 7:00 a.m. eastern tuesday morning. join the discussion.
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>> here's a look at our live coverage tuesday. white house economic adviser larry kudlow talks about the state of the u.s. economy and recent trends in the stock market. that is from the national press club at 12:30 p.m. eastern. at 7:00 p.m., douglas brinkley and richard north and smith talk about the new book, the president's, where noted historians rank the best and worst chief executives. our rent to the white house coverage includes larry hogan in manchester, new hampshire as he considers a possible primary inllenge to president trump the 2020 presidential election. the u.s. institute of peace takes a look at efforts to combat extremism in different parts of the world. three, richard trumka talks about trade policy and labor issues with david rubenstein from the economic club of washington, d.c.. that is at a 30 a.m. eastern.
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>> tuesday at 7:00 p.m. eastern on c-span, live coverage from vernon talking about c-span's new book them of the presidents. noted historians rank america's best and worst chief executive. with douglas brinkley, and richard burton smith and saturday at 2:30 p.m., but tv has live coverage from the new noted historians rank the best and worst chief executives. presidential leadership tuesday at 7:00 p.m. eastern from mount vernon and saturday on c-span2 m.om the newseu >> president trump is skipping the annual white house correspondents dinner and will hold a campaign rally in green bay, wisconsin. watch live coverage saturday on
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c-span at 8:00 p.m. eastern. following the rally, watch live coverage of the white house correspondents in her. democratic talk is met by teleconference to discuss the judiciary committee subpoena counselr white house them again and what is next in the report findings. we spoke with a capitol hill reporter to learn more. scott long is senior staff writing for the hill. why did speaker pelosi call this meeting in the middle of the house recess? forhis is a big deal democrats, for congress, and the entire country. this was the first gathering of house democrats after the robert mueller special counsel report was released last week. democrats and all lawmakers have been on a two week

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