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especially on the eve of the apollo 11 anniversary, especially since months ago, president trump charged nasa with returning to the moon within five years. there is a lot of talk, and a lot of press about this excitement and mission, and yet, polls are coming out showing very little in terms of support. what was interesting was when they phrased the question in the presence of a competition, somewhat similar to what we had going on in the apollo era -- you know, it was really the space race between the united states and russia -- when that is presented now as a space race israel, support shoots up to 49%. if that kind of thinking gets our competitive juices going, and then we see that competition spirit happening, but not right now. >> you can find all the results c-span.org, including findings
on america's attitude toward space force and the privatization of space exploration. hannau, pollock -- trudeau, campaign 2020 for the next hour or so. welcome to the program this morning. let's start with just a snapshot, look at the polling and this is no surprise where people stand. 27% approval in the average of polls . elizabeth warren 15%, bernie ,, the hairs of 15%. it drops off with pete -- come harris at 15%. climbing upr steadily in those polls. joewas a bit further behind
biden or bernie sanders, she got a big boost after that debate. >> josh, what about you? >> a standout night for kamala harris. i think what was also interesting was looking at the fundraising numbers that came where shethe debate raised about $2 million in the first 24 hours. the kind of signals problems there before the debate and a question of what might have them -- might might have those numbers look like if she didn't have that standout performance. elizabeth has excellent numbers. in too far behind joe biden the upper echelons of fundraising. host: do those levels surprise either of you? guest: i was a little surprised
by the warren number with the growth she saw from the first quarter. debate aboute whether or not she should resist the private fundraisers with big donors, i thought that was a surprise especially that she outraised bernie. i think for me like josh mentioned, the biggest surprise was that one million or so more than bernie sanders. we haven't seen him really capitalize as grassroots donations and go have a little bit more than that and i think her ability to raise more than shows she isuarter gaining momentum. host: we saw congressman eric
swalwell drop out of the race. debate, who has to up their game for this at -- in this next debate to avoid dropping out? mentioned, there are about five people consistently polling anywhere near double digits and then it kind of trails off from there. anyone you didn't mention in your opening remarks will want to have a standout moment. i think it will be interesting ,hat happens with beto o'rourke whose mania seems to fade a bit. he might be looking for a good moment. to pickastro might want up some momentum he is gained. host: on beto o'rourke, the
washington post this morning, they are focusing on texas alone and texas a legion -- allegiance to o'rourke is vanishing. guest: i think that is right. he wasn't particularly memorable in the first debate and we also haven't seen him and his fundraising numbers, we are not sure where he stands on that front and i think i've spoken to some people in the campaign since the debate happened and they are very aware he needs to hit it out of the ballpark to really keep where he was. >> we spent the first hour raidsg about the ice happening. how big of an issue do you think immigration will continue to be for democratic presence of candidates? >> if they are wise they will make it a top speaking point issue because the trump campaign certainly is. we did a story a couple weeks ago about how the trump campaign is outspending democrats across
the board on things like facebook, specifically on the immigration issue. what we found is he has capitalized on that talking point of his campaign and the rit largec candidates w are not doing the same. there would wise to pick up momentum with the ice raids and with their platform of inclusivity and being more focused on that. to run again in terms of immigration, the president does have support in his base on his view on immigration. >> what will be interesting is how long the democrats will think they can do a values based contrast with the president about family separation, the cells, whetherg they can continue to just make a values-based narrative or put
forward some concrete solutions of their own. secretary castro chided his rivals for not having comrades of plans to address those issues. i think democratic voters are ok with hearing yes i don't like the cages, i don't like the sub durations -- separations. will there be more hunger for concrete proposals? host: we welcome your phone calls. 202-748-8000 free democrats, 202-748-8001 independence. -- for republicans. for independences -- independents and others, 202-748-8002. which candidate do you think has the most comprehensive platform to date? guest: a look -- elizabeth warren. a slogan she's leaned into, dapper -- definitely
separating herself from some of her rivals. i think there is the political angle but i think she actually enjoyed the policy aspect, she has clearly chosen to run -- she has also laid down markers for the rest of the deal on where they stand, where they stand on funding for historically black colleges and universities and other minority institutions. early she is carved out that lane. >> it appears to be resonating based on her polling and fundraising. in terms of her measured -- wast: another thing she did build on the momentum and platform bernie popularized. she made it more fine tuned. she has, with a slew of wrong policies, but she has also -- is also campaigning on some of the
things he introduced to the public sphere last time. that works to her advantage. we are seeing some bernie voters break off to her because they said we likedhave him a lot last time but we like that warren has a strong comprehensive plan where he has more broad talking points. host: is he treading water or gaining? guest: i think he is doing strong. still doing quite strong in new hampshire. challenge is holding onto that core base. much like trump, he has a strong amount of supporters that i haven't seen him be able to reach new voters so far and i think that is the biggest challenge and that's were someone like warren comes in. host: want to get back to the , i wantsue this morning to play this and see what you have to think. themsignificant number of
are private institutions that profit off the incarceration of others and so many of the people there are the most vulnerable people not just from our country, but the planet seeking asylum ending up in these facilities. i put out a plan to radically number,e a significant i would say much more than 75% of these. i'm not a person stands back and criticizes. i've been to the private immigration detention facilities. me, they are abjectly a violation of the very fundamental value of our nation. this is a president who has been inling us a lie that somehow order to be safe we need to separate children from families. somehow to be safe we need to privatize prisons and
incarcerate people. that is a lie. we could have the system the protect our borders, but also affirms our values and as you said, you brought in the economic reality. we did cover senator booker yesterday in new hampshire. he talked about his plan he has introduced. he did the i've been down here, i have a plan to address these. they value-based contract -- contrast. what will be interesting is how much longer, the plane he rolled out is pretty comprehensive. he wants to virtually eliminate immigration detention as a concept. it is unclear exactly how they andd get that to congress that's why you see cory booker and others. hanna, let me ask you
about the setting. in new hampshire in someone's backyard. months away from the primary. those sorts of events seem to really resonate. guest: they do. retail politics is huge there. say is corywill booker's not doing so well in the polls across the board. but he really does well in small group settings. what i found talking to people there is his name comes up as one of the people in the top three or four candidates at the top of their list to vote for now. does it signal they will vote for him? not necessarily. it does indicate there is excitement for his campaign style, he picked up a slew of local endorsements, so he does well in these retail politics
settings. hanna and josh, we welcome your calls and comments about the campaign and more. 202-748-8000 free democrats. republic -- four democrats. -- for democrats. 202-748-8001 for republicans. 202-748-8002 for independents. democrat and trump i believe they are all running for second place. i think it will be hard to be trump this time. them well but i think it will be hard to beat trump. host: thank you. guest: i think the callers absolute right. i think a lot of democrats acknowledge that shouldn't take anything for granted this time around and it is going to be a hard fight. they are sitting on more than
$100 million already, that is more than barack obama had at this point in his 2012 reelection effort. it will be a tough fight. democrats will have to figure out who the best person is you take him on. host: this is richard in california. think the sooner the field weeds out, the better for democrats. i think the person of the best chance is biden. he really helped obama negotiate all kinds of things with the congress and senate and with foreign leaders, which none of those people running behind -- executiveden have experience. just as soon as they whittle down the field -- also
the country and democrats want someone solid to bring some dignity and solidity back to the white house. that is no understatement. but they can't underestimate the stupidity of the trump voters. and make any huge mistakes. they really have to get out and campaign and get the points all the way down the line. it should be easy, but it's not going to be because trump is a superior narcissist conman who has people believing he actually cares about them. voter asked the trump what he's done for you, i don't think they can name one thing that's improve their lives. host: joe biden made what he feels is a major policy just foreign policy addressing new york, do you think that will be his calling card when the not -- to win the nomination?
guest: i'm not sure foreign policy will, i know that's top-of-the-line for older voters. i think looking at foreign policy if you are an older voter , a lot of world events and global affairs interactions so i think it's natural to look to someone like joe biden for that policy area. the electability issue the caller mentioned, i think it is something i hear a lot from people. they think he is the best to be trump. i was just in south carolina, he is widely popular there for a variety of reasons. they feel he is well-equipped to take on trump. i think he has a lot going for him and he is the current front-runner in all the national , i think he is strong. host: josh, you said he continues to be the target of
many of present trump's tweets. -- president trump's tweets. the theory that once trump says something against you, be the rest of the field does not echo that. maybe the field says we are to defend our own against trump. maybe that's why joe biden is going down the line. >> this is ruth on the line. >> good morning. obama built those cages that are the border. , he sentted families troops to the border, he said there is a crises of the border another fence.
this is not put out by cnn or , he deportedody twice as many illegals as trump we are a is because nation, a nation has to have borders and we need to those borders intact. we need to be doing the right being these people deported today are the people that go into court that have been turned down by the united states and told they have to leave. host: back to the original point, are either of you surprised former president obama continues to be a campaign issue
if you will and a winning one it appears are president trump? >> no. he is still probably the most popular democrat in the country. widely beloved and his party. is goingis endorsement and ifidely sought after he is planning to do so it won't be until late in the process. what's interesting about obama and his legacy is how yes he is very popular within the party, but the candidates are running to is ideologically left on a range of issues from climate to health care to even some of his border policies and deportation policies. the debate over his legacy and whether or not it was to moderate could be playing out to the primary. >> just to go back to biden, we
see him every chance he gets using obama's name on the campaign trail because he know that excites people and he is eager to bring up a range of initiatives he worked on our policies he helped obama craft when he was vp. he usually gets applause when he brings that out. host: you wrote an article on endorsements. the aoc endorsement. pelositicism of nancy muddied the waters for seeking her doorstep. >> that was looking at previously bernie sanders and elizabeth warren really seeking out alexandria ocasio-cortez endorsement. arena right in the policy where they fit. she was also inspired by bernie sanders campaign. danceave had a delicate
of who could potentially get the endorsement, they have worked on legislation together, she had lunch with elizabeth warren privately. this dance going on where they are both looking after her and her endorsement strongly but we are seeing she made comments about nancy pelosi criticizing her that some of these 2020 democrats are unsure about how to address that and nobody necessarily wants to go up against the speaker of the house who is a popular leader. they also want to seek out her endorsement still so i think we are seeing a little bit of hesitation on how to respond to that. host: independent line. caller: hello? host: you are on the air. notice whenever they talk about the kids and all that --ff,
do you think we could solve a lot of this we can get the supreme court to vote on the 14th amendment. thatren't we enforcing birthright? we will let you go there. a little off topic. shores, michigan, go ahead. caller: i would like to say we haven't been able since the election to allow this president to work. that's all i hear on the news is the negative side and he is being accused of our problem with the immigrant families and whatnot, yet not a people during the eight years of obama. obama started the cages, obama started all of this. trump fell into this yet i hear no news.
that's all i hear are these junior congressman, this cortez person talking about separation and kids being kept in cages -- fergus as a -- anticipate the planks of that platform of the accomplishments the trump administration can tout present trump in 2020? for us as reporters and voters trying to figure out what might actually be an accomplishment and what might be , withration on his part this president and by new more difficult. it's undeniable the economy continues to grow, it was growing under the obama administration and present trump has a good economy at his back. the ongoing question is what
happens if the economy can't go on this historic string of growth we've seen for the last eight years or so. i think the economy will definitely be one. winning on the global stage with china will be another number renegotiating nafta, measuring the actual benefits of those for middle-class americans. ont: we saw the headline friday, the wall street journal nbc poll enters the democratic primary voters. andbiden, elizabeth warren kamala harris. we want to remind viewers and listeners we will be covering kamala harris in new hampshire coming up today at 1:15 eastern here on c-span. bob is next on the and appended line. go ahead. good morning.
as far as each of these democratic candidates for the , they needination pick one or two things that's important whether it's the orironment or health care second amendment rights or andtion rights or whatever -- none of those things is nearly as important as the number one thing, we need a president with the maturity and experience to be able to stand up to vladimir
, you don't want to send a rookie against somebody like that, weuse if we lose are all dead and none of the other things will matter. all the other initiatives can wait until somebody is elected from one party or the other and address those things later on. right now we should only be focused on who is next -- fit to stand up to the existential russia andm china, north korea. guest: i think that's a good question. i don't know that there is a lot on theter about russia campaign trail. that is some of the candidates
have gone out of their way to say we talk about this a lot in washington and we are waiting eagerly for the mueller report to come out but we have yet to hear a voter at a town hall ask about it, so i'm not sure the russia investigation broadly as part of the campaign discourse between voters in the candidate, but that being said, at the same time, they are also not on the in electionvesting security or insecurity as a topic. amy klobuchar has made a pet issue but she is not really a top-tier candidate. you don't hear joe biden or bernie sanders talking about needing to protect the election system. his bigdate jay inslee, campaign issue has been climate change. he talked about yesterday. here is he had to say. -- look i as a party
think we've been too timid on this. we need to stand up against the fossil fuel industry, we need to take away their $20 billion largess of subsidies. we need to do something real. i'm serious about this, we cannot defeat the climate crisis by sending hallmark cards to the future. we need to face down the fossil fuel ceos and say your days are over and i'm proud to tell you on the candidate and i'm the only candidate to say this clearly, defeating the climate crisis has to be the number one priority in the united states of america. i believe that wholeheartedly. i believe that because if it is not job one, it won't get done. i'm the candidate that says we have to move on this. time is wasting. this is our last chance. i'm the candidate, the only
candidate that says this. we have to get off coal in this country, that is the only route to survival. jay inslee talking about climate change. his number one issue based on the polling, doesn't appear to be breaking through. no, but i will say have seen him with his supporters and it is a very laurel -- a very loyal bunch very passionate out -- about what he was speaking on. they want his conversation, that counts towards these debate thresholds. -- he was a lot of people second or third or even fourth candidate of choice where they like the climate message. it could be interesting how long that is sustainable if he can
get the donor -- host: we haven't talked about that. the debates of the end of this month, what is the threshold? guest: the same as the first in miami where you have to have six 5000 donors and 1% in the polls. and then it will be raised for the september debates in houston and there they have to hit 130,000 donors and 2% in national polls. >> based on what we've seen, any idea of what that number, the number of candidates on the willoughbyate stage, 15 -- will it be 15 on stage? think it will probably be around half. getting 2% even if you can have a really stand out fundraising quarter, getting the 2% will be the challenge. democrats line in georgia.
good morning. caller: good morning. called, first of all i would say elizabeth warren is most prepared with policy. preparedrris is most to fight. pete buttigieg i also like. is why isalling about no one pointing out we have asked columbia to take in 2 million venezuelans as refugees, inhave asked jordan to take half of their population and syrians as refugees. we have asked turkey to take in a quarter of their population as refugees and we expect them to
take in refugees, but we are a country of 300 million people and we can't take in refugees from central america? what is wrong with us? think about this. crazy definition of what refugees are that we are trying to put forward. host: any thoughts? guest: that goes back to the foreign policy question from earlier on. we don't hear candidates necessarily talking about the middle east the way we did, i heard him say jordan and turkey. i think that is an interesting point. we are focusing more on the latin american immigration population at this point. i think it will be interesting to see if anybody mentions what
he just brought up because clearly in the election with obama there was much more of a focus on the middle east, now it is more russia and china and the immigration populations from latin america. host: president trump tweeting this morning his focus is on democrats often. doing so this morning as well. so interesting to see democratic congress women, the -- if they even had a functioning government at all now loudly and viciously telling the people of the united states the greatest and most important powerful nation on earth how our government is to be run. why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came and then come back and show us how it's done. these places need your help badly. i'm sure nancy pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements. the president successfully in
many cases continuing to use the democrats as a target. guest: and also they are completely -- and also taking advantage of internal disagreement between four freshman democratic congress women women of color who had disagreements with the aboutship in the caucus immigration policy. these will make for an interesting down the hill tomorrow. when reporters will be swarming aoc and pelosi to ask about trump taking advantage of this internal division. host: one candidate is senator kirsten gillibrand because she is on the front page, america's ignoring kirsten gillibrand, is it her fault or hours? where did she stand in the race? >> she has been interesting
candidate to watch. she is a senator from new york, that should speak a lot on a national stage but it doesn't. she struggled to meet the threshold for the first debate, so i think she is really -- has really struggled to catch on for whatever reason. i hear a lot of the twitter chat or online is about her calling for al franken to resign and i also hear that on the trail occasionally. what i also see especially back to new hampshire is she does really well in the small settings, particularly with women, she prioritized being the woman candidate. it hasn't paid off because there are three other prominent female members running in addition to her. she faces a crossroads here with getting traction. host: let's hear from joe in
missouri on the republican line. one reason i would never vote for a democrat is i'm tired of having transgender crap pushed down my throat. i don't give a dam about climate change. biden is note going to be trump. kamala harris is trying to convince us she is black and she is not. think kamala't harris is black? we are going to let you go. bonnita springs, florida, independent line. caller: thanks for taking my call. i've always been an independent, i voted for both tickets pending on the issues and the candidates and the way they reflect my beliefs. the reason i voted for president
trump this last time, by the way i voted for president obama the first time he ran and was extremely disappointed by the time he left office. of fillingin light an airplane with billions of dollars in cash to send to iran. i digress. my main point is the reason i voted for donald trump is because he wasn't bought off, the system of politics in this country is getting out of control corruption. it the wealthy on both parties and most of the candidates, everybody knows it. viewhe globalists point of has taken over because multinational corporations don't have any loyalty to united states. people have got to understand this. , youook at citizens united look at hillary clinton talking about the north american union.
sorry, i want to be the united states of america. host: would you vote for him in 2020? caller: i'm looking at the democratic candidates. i sent $10 to bernie sanders believe it or not. when he started talking about letting convicted felons in jail like murderers and rapists vote, i was floored. they have lost their minds and the democratic party and i am absolutely against illegal immigration -- host: all right, that is tina in florida. guest: that was a nice cross-section of a bunch of issues that are top of mind for a lot of people, the first thing i heard was the corruption and not being bought and sold. so it makes sense she donated to bernie sanders at one point.
he shared some of the support with people who ultimately end up voting for trump who voted for sanders in the primary. idea of corporate interests and money in politics is something the democratic pol -- party has increasingly gone away from in the 2020 election. elizabeth warren specifically saying she won't attend big-ticket fundraisers. almost every other candidate saying i'm going to rely heavily on small donor support, joe biden and pete buttigieg being notable exception still taking the article -- larger donations. she didn't support obama the second time around and voted for president trump, how do democrats -- democratic candidates make inroads on voters like tina? guest: i think they'll have
different ideas for how to do that. i think joe biden thinks he's the best person to go back to the white working-class and talk to those obama voters who flipped to trump, talk to them about he has met with people he disagrees with, suggesting he would move on from an identity politics way of talking and try to talk about jobs in kitchen table issues. that type of stuff. what was really interesting to me about that call was when she was talking about the iran, piles of cash, this goes back to what you were saying about how we aren't talking about the middle east and the obama administration was kind of caught up in the middle east and he wants to get into asia so bad and now that's what we are talking about. i thought we were in a time warp when she mentioned iran. host: linda on our democrats
this is where it should be the concern because of not paying on and theause of no jobs highest interest rate and highest price. host: student debt certainly several candidates have put forth plans on that. guest: student debt has been thrust into this election discourse in terms of policy platforms. bernie sanders campaigned on an 2016, it didn't get as much attention as his health care platform but we've seen elizabeth warren come out with a detailed plan, promising to a must eliminate student debt for the majority of people who have it. different of candidate spectrum we see someone like pete buttigieg who in terms of the free college for all platform says i'm not -- i don't support giving free
college to the kids of billionaires or millionaires. there's a wide range of candidate stances on student free college and student debt. host: who is talking about health care on the campaign trail? guest: i think about all of them. bernie sanders and medicare all, he is right when he says it was viewed skeptical in the mainstream of the party. the kind of position themselves differently. cory booker said i'm from medicare for anyone who wants it. mayor p kind of started saying that too. people thought they had a little thoughthe bernie people they had a little bit of an edge
on warren because she had equivocated a little bit about whether she was for just lowering the age and then during that debate she was one of the people who put her hand up to say she supported medicare for all. an update on the story we've been following. the huffington post is reporting ice rates have begun in new york. mayor de blasio says agents did not succeed in rounding up residential targeted neighborhoods. thepress corps is saying mayor is getting reports a nationwide crackdown on immigration -- immigrants facing deportation is underway in his city. hannaspeak with josh and , here next from judy in indianapolis on our democrats line. >> good morning.
i was thinking about the lady who called in from florida who voted democrat and then voted for trump because she said there was so much corruption in politics. persondy is a typical that shows how confused people are with all the lies donald trump has been telling. donald trump told lies to get into the white house, he said he wasn't going to do anything to hurt people with their social security, their medicare and different things and he came in and did the opposite. he tells lies every day. this lady is talking about corruption in politics. donald trump is corrupt, his cabinet is corrupt and you've got people running for the democrats who are not taking money from big donors, who are taking money from the american donations and that
shows you these people are not corrupt and then these republicans are going to vote for this corrupt man again. i don't quite understand how donald trump was able to get that. he is really shading people. morningety did this telling those young women they need to go back where they came from is just ridiculous. they are americans, they got elected because they were americans. if they weren't american citizens they couldn't have been elected. this man is nothing but a hatemonger, he is a liar, he has committed all types of crimes allegedly. corruptione issue of , alleged corruption, will that have any traction as a campaign issue? guest: the polling through the midterms found political
corruption, money and politics and reducing it was the second most thing people were enthusiastic about behind the economy, a lot of moderate democrats ran on that type of message. housel the splits in the -- house democratic caucus. election security on money in politics, they reached their first bill they got out of the house, every democrat voted for it. host: money in politics seems to cut both ways successfully used by the president and his first campaign, draining the swamp and continues to be a criticism of the deep state by republicans against the democrats. guest: i think he will continue to use it in 2020. we see him start to go out on the trail more and more, he is saying he successfully drained
the swamp. never mind that some of the members in his cabinet are former lobbyists, but he and many people's eyes has done what he said he was going to do. i think that will be pretty effective. ,aving the massive cash on hand he has that money advantage right now. >> let's hear from the independent line from charlotte, north carolina. my thing i wanted to say first of all i believe probably donald trump will be reelected as president again and as far as is biden, the thing with him he is an empty suit and i believe the democrat party does best when he doesn't really talk very much because when he does,
he puts his foot in his mouth. the last thing i wanted to say and i am thrilled, finally racism has come home to roost in the party that created it. it is about time and what is going on with aoc and nancy and kamala and joe is showing you where all this began to begin with. thank you so much for taking my call. host: focusing on her comments about the joe biden and his famous gaffes in the past. he hasn't had that so much on the campaign trail. guest: he hasn't had his gaffes but he did have a poor debate performance where he didn't quite know how to respond to the issue of race on busing, which kamala harris landed a major critique of him on on the stage and he started to give a little bit of a defense and then ended by saying my time is up.
maybe he was trying to prevent himself from making a major gaffe. ashaven't seen him campaign actively as others are. he waited until later in the race to get in because he didn't that kind of exposure early on that summa like eric swalwell or others who are much less lower tier needed to have in order to get her name out there. i think we see maybe fewer gaffes but if you are interfacing with regular voters. host: what you hear from that collar? r.est: -- calle guest: i think think democrats are having now about they want to be trump, so the number one -- when i ask voters what's the number one issue, this a beating
trump. -- they say beating trump. sayhear a lot of voters they think joke impeach trump and i think what she was talking about landing that blow on the debate stage it was the first real notch, you might look back at this moment in the primary and say it was the first notch in that electability aura around him. the more democrats cannot get that, that's his number one argument right now, the more democrats can chip away at that, the better chance they think they will have it overtaking him as the front runner. host: we talked about a little bit about new hampshire, but i just want to show this des moines register interactive piece. there may be 2500 more presidential events in iowa with
candidate visits show more public events so far than in the three -- past three caucus sidles cycles. there are a lot of candidates out there. which candidate is focusing on iowa as opposed to new hampshire or south carolina? guest: first one that comes to mind is elizabeth warren. she has made iowa a huge part of her strategy. in addition to new hampshire. she has an advantage. in iowa specifically i remember in 2018 when candidates had not yet announced, it was focused on the midterms. she was already testing the waters in iowa a little bit and people were saying we aren't doing anything in iowa, we are focused on the midterms, but i think that sort of early preparation helped her make initial contact on the ground and i spoke to people in iowa in
the midterms, they said it is already brewing in excitement for elizabeth warren. hanna pointed out, iowa requires feet on the ground, retail politics. think her and cory booker have the largest ground presence. announced in office. well sayingr as this is my backyard. in addition to those high-profile candidates, there are a lot of people like steve bullock or congressman john delaney, lower tier candidates going all in on iowa. likely they would stay on until the caucuses regardless.
guest: i think a lot of them would like to have they have the money. that's what will let them know if they can stay in or not. richard -- richard on the republican line. caller: i'm joe biden asking myself i'm a racist, why does barack obama choose me as his running mate for eight years? a couple back and now years later i'm no good, i'm a racist, it's because you're a white man. he does not realize that. the democrat -- democrat party is pushing for a black person to run for president against donald trump and i'm going to say this. i will no longer vote democrat. thank you. host: response. guest: ok. interesting call.
one thing i will say is i think that's why joe biden took that approach is he probably felt he was being accused of racism and i think biden has said well barack chose me. i think the nuance there is it's not about being a racist, it's just about this policy is supported in the 70's and 80's, but you can grow and mature and recognize you are a hardliner in a way that is no longer in the mainstream of democratic thought. that's completely different than calling him a racist. i think maybe he is learning that, he apologized in south carolina last weekend, it it took a long time but he did apologize. there's a difference between saying i think you are a racist in i think your policies on race in the 70's are out of the mainstream now. host: one more call.
leonard on our independent line. caller: good morning. i'm gonna say some things. i've watched both democrat debates and afterwards i scratched my head. i have no idea who i might vote for. until 2017.crat up president trump is the one that persuaded me to change parties because if you look at what happened in 2015 and 2016 it seems that the democratic party was out of the loop. on the basis of health care, one thing i found interesting on the last debate was when they were asked to believe these immigrants coming across the border should have health care. was a legal phase , he crossed the border in 1914 happily. he taught himself how to read and write by listening to the
radio and reading the newspaper. he made sure we spoke english. that being said, it will sound hypocritical, but let's worry about health care for american citizens first and then start trying to cure the ales of the world. hanna trudeau. guest: i think that was summing to got almost unanimous support. yes, that is something that got i think unanimous support. the democratic candidates, maybe they have seen some polling that it is something to get behind, or maybe they have talked to enough voters on the ground, so i think that appears to be kind of a nonissue among their platform. i do not see too much gradient from where they stand on that. i think it would be a pretty drastic shift if somebody in the next debate or on the stone somewhere said i did not mean
that, i take that back, because it seems to be something everybody wanted. guest: there are some democrats who just make a purely economic argument to do so. some will say for humane, humanitarian reasons, they should get covers or should be provided for. if they say something like our costs will go up if we are subsidizing their -- if they come in just uninsured through an e.r. and cannot pay their tab. host: do you think the mayor's argument may have helped him on the campaign trail? ofst: i honestly think a lot voters that i talked to this season are surprised to know that this bright guy from a
small town in indiana -- i think people are just impressed with the way he speaks, the way he talks, the way he can back into an issue. he is a very good orator. i am not sure i've heard a voter mentioned his experience. yes, he really ran in south bend, so great, now i think he should be president. [laughter] guest: but i do think people are taken aback, he is a new face, and they love the way he speaks. guest: it is a broad feeling. host: hanna trudo, the daily >> c-span's washington journal, live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. coming up monday morning, reuters white house correspondent jeff mason and ellen melson will join us to talk about the week ahead in washington.
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