tv Washington Journal Rep. Raul Ruiz CSPAN July 18, 2019 11:22pm-11:53pm EDT
returning to earth. >> i am the luckiest man in the world. i say this not only because i have the honor to be president but particularly because i have the privilege of speaking for so many. >> watch the news coverage of the historic apollo 11 mission on c-span and c-span.org. >> are first of two guests this morning. yesterday the house judiciary committee advanced your bill, setting new standards for treatment for individuals and customs and border protection custody. what are those standards now? now and how would your bill change those standards? guest: let me describe the situation at the border.
you have children being treated inhumanely, women, pregnant women, the elderly, vulnerable populations being treated like they are subhuman. you have an overfilled concrete where theyold floors are piled on top of each other. children soil themselves without diapers. mucus and vomit on their shirts. inadequate amount of food. they are given burritos that are still frozen. seeing one bathroom for 400 people. you are seeing open toilets where the women have to stand and guard their body around another young woman to use the toilet. it is so subhuman, these conditions. i am aground is that board-certified emergency physician.
, have done flight medicine medical command in the city of pittsburgh during my training. i am also an expert in public humanitarianained at harvard with the harvard humanitarian initiative as well andraining with the icrc responded after the haiti earthquake became medical director of the largest internally -- internal camp right after the haiti earthquake. what i saw at the border was an overcapacity system with multiple failures, understaffed, underequipped, under resourced and under skilled to reach the men -- humanitarian needs of these women and children under their custody and under their responsibility. the humanitarian standards for individuals in cvb cpbody act based on -- in
based on work act i have done for many years as well as basic standards for humanitarian treatment regarding the public health necessities with water, sanitation, hygiene, food, shelter and that is what i did. host: when it comes to those things, are there standards now that just aren't being met? guest: that's the problem. we studied the standards that cbp and ice are following and this bill mind you is specifically only for cbp, the ones at the front lines and they are following these standards but they are not real. they are not real standards in the sense that they are very vague. they are not specific, and for example, a health screening is defined by an observation and a question, are you ok and look at them. it does not say they need an interview, that they are required to do it in a language
they can understand, it does not say they have to have vital signs and a physical examination , it is not a screening triage to determine whose life is in danger and who is at high risk of dying. under their standards which they have met, six children have died. the seven-year-old from guatemala, if she had vital signs initially when she presented, she would be alive. host: your bill, does it provide new funding to allow cbp to have the resources to do those? guest: this bill would be the blueprint that the $4.5 billion that was just given in the supplemental would be applied towards, one. is an authorizing bill so it creates laws and the appropriators will look to fund this blueprint so that we can
humanely,ants more with more professionalism at the border. host: we are talking with congressman raul ruiz, democrat from california. the phone lines are open for you to call in. democrats, (202)-748-8000. republicans, (202)-748-8001. independents, (202)-748-8002. his standards for those in cbp custody passing the house committees process sunday. when will that seafloor time for an actual vote? guest: next week, i am very hopeful it will be up for a vote next week and before everyone leaves to their districts in august and of course, i don't know if senator mitch mcconnell will bring it up for a vote in the senate. however, there are a lot of bills that must pass congress and there are a lot of things the president once and i believe speaker pelosi is very wise in
her ability to make sure that we do the right thing for children. host: in terms of must pass bills, we heard news of a possible deal between speaker pelosi, democratic leadership and the white house on raising the debt ceiling and lifting those budget caps. what is your understanding of where we are on that deal? guest: it is your understanding of what we are reading in the news and other sources, that they are getting close to a deal. it is important that the government pays its bills. host: what should the deal include in your mind? guest: i can't go into specifics because i am not privy to that back and forth but definitely we should be paying our bills so we don't default and put in ruin our american economy and create a global crisis. host: a tweet from one of the congressional reporters on capitol hill, quoting steve mnuchin on cnbc this morning
saying the white house thinking -- things congressional leaders have agreed on top line budget cap numbers and are working on offsets. can you explain what that legislative speak means? guest: offsets is where you're going to take away in order to put money into other positions. that is what that means. host: that we -- we will find out today more information on that deal and we will keep you updated. you can stay on c-span and watch action on the house floor starting in about 50 minutes. the next 20 minutes we are talking with congressman raul ruiz of california. glenn is up first out of illinois, a democrat. good morning. caller: hello and good morning. trump and putof our vice president in there, he's got no nose for that border bill. he will throw those cages out of
there so quick it would make your head spin. pence, that is the one we need. thank you. host: your thoughts on the vice president? guest: his recent visit to the hit to swaynother and distract from the very gross facebook posts that they found from certain border patrol agents, to sway the public opinion from what lawyers and the independent observers had seen, which is the complete inadequacy of the system to care for children and women, oftentimes intentional, sometimes not intentional but simply because they don't know how and don't have the resources. host: the caller talking about getting rid of president trump. al green sought to do that yesterday through his impeachment resolution. it was eventually tabled.
the house democratic leadership leading that effort to try and table that resolution. guest: i voted to table it because we have mueller who is going to come and testify. we still have a lot of different information that needs to be uncovered. impeachment does not remove the president. it is the senate vote that has to remove the president. we have to make sure that there is not only enough but that the best set of circumstances and context in which a president under the constitution can be impeached. host: the impeachment resolution dealt in large part with the president ticket comments about the four democratic freshman congresswomen and his thoughts on them. you have -- you have to ask yourself, does that mean high crimes and misdemeanors, bribery or treason? electorately, the
voted for a man who disparaged women, a man who disparaged immigrants and is continuing to do that, using divisiveness and hate and fear to augment his political base in order for him to win elections and gain power. that is not the ideal form of leadership our country needs but his campaign used the electoral system to his advantage. host: our next caller is out of ashburn, virginia, republican. caller: good talking to you guys and thank you for having me on. my comment is about the border. can we agree that five years ago, the majority of migrants that were migrating to the united states were men and not family units? theythey had the -- when had the detention centers down there, they were better equipped because we did not have that many people coming in. , thee have this influx
crisis we are talking about and i think we can agree, we are not equipped to have family units. when you have thousands coming in by the day, what do you expect for them to do? when they don't have money, they are just not equipped. we could put up a tent city overnight but to build , just for them to be in the condition that it is a good condition to bring children and mothers and pregnant women, we just don't have the facilities to do that. there are too many people coming across. host: thank you for the call. guest: i have been the medical director for tens of thousands of haitians after the most devastating earthquake and in the most impoverished country in the western hemisphere and these standards can be applied.
the amount of the amount of latrines per individual, the amount of calories you want to provide to families, providing space and private secure space for them to bathe and shower. providing soap and toothbrushes. creating a location where there is enough space. many of these provisions do not require a complete infrastructure makeover. there is a lot of capacity within our government to a tente -- i work in hospital in haiti alongside the 82nd airborne in the army. see the enormous capacity of logistics to meet these names but -- to meet these needs but i do agree that right now the system does not have the capacity. therefore we will have to do a of of memorandums understanding and contracts with other emergency federal agencies
as well as nonprofits and local hospitals to make sure that children do not die. what we do have the capacity for is to ensure that children do not shut up -- do not suffer needlessly. host: the energy and commerce committee on capitol hill, the house oversight and government reform committee, acting homeland security secretary will be testifying. if you had a chance to ask him a question, what would it be? guest: i did have multiple chances and i had multiple conversations with him and other border patrol agent about the standards and i know that the border patrol agents want these standards because improving the standards and the conditions in which they work will also improve their workplace and make sure they have the capacity to have a licensed health care professional to do health screenings, emergency care providers on-call to triage and help them make decisions whether a child needs to be transported
to the emergency department or can remain in their facility. a lot of these provisions in the humanitarian standards bill addresses a public health -- addresses public health. illnesses,vent deterioration of an individual's health. you will prevent them from getting sick and prevent other agents from getting sick as well. host: reviewers who want to check out that hearing, we are airing it on c-span3 at 10:00 this morning. you can see the acting homeland security secretary. you can also watch it at c-span.org or listen to it on the free c-span radio app. alan is next out of north carolina, independent. caller: good morning america. i just wanted to say that you have people talk about athletes but athletes are great.
when there are natural disasters, people go and help other people. we recognized out of the border, these people need help. how come these congressmen and others are not putting their genes on and getting donations and helping out until the money does come and build the tents themselves to do some the other than talking? i am tired of people talking about -- especially congresspeople talking and not rolling up their sleeves. why aren't you asking people to your written law comes through? guest: i hear your frustration publici grew up in the health and community organizing communities where we actually do things rather than talk and in this case, personally, i have worked with different nonprofits to assist them in coordinating a response to help these children
and women and families. the issue is there are very strict rules where cbp cannot accept certain donations or certain assistance. they don't allow anybody to come into the facilities where the children are at. my bill will allow members of congress to go in and do oversight and inspections. there was a lot of organizations and nonprofits that are much better at coordinating humanitarian aid than the 435 individual members of congress right now, but i definitely hear your frustration and i think there is a point. there are a lot of people who want to bicker but there is the opportunity to donate money is to nonprofits, opportunities to work with your physicians. i had the president of the american academy of pediatrics say they had a whole team of pediatricians who are waiting and are insisting to be let in
to take care of these children, they are not allowed. host: why aren't they? guest: the claim is for security reasons. havingeaucracy of not gone through the background checks and all the other necessities to come into a facility and i think a lot of it the less amount of outsiders, third-party individuals coming in and seeing the horrendous conditions, the less stink they are going to make. cbp would rather shut their the publicot allow to see what is happening inside. host: about 10 minutes left with congressman raul ruiz of california. betty is waiting in louisiana, republican. caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. i have been listening to the discussions and the one thing
that has not been spoken about or brought up is stop it. stop the influx. the analogy would be if you have a tub that is overflowing, the faucet is running full force and you keep yelling for buckets. bring more buckets. but the buckets aren't the problem. how about turning the faucet off? not,e out here, we are where listening to all of this. you are not handling it like you are supposed to. congress, do something. you are not taking any steps at all to shut the faucet off. guest: that is a great analogy betty. that is a very good analogy. do tos what we need to shut the faucet, as you say. we have to understand why people e from theiren mass countries to come to the united states.
that is because either their life has been threatened, there is a lot of lawlessness, a lot of threat from cartels and other areas going to very rural urban populations, communities in villages. people whosend wives or husbands or children have been killed. they either stay with this horrible life or they take the risk and migrate north and go to a location where there is that not -- where there is not that lawlessness. that lawlessness continues in mexico with the cartels able to kidnap, rape, human trafficking in mexico. that is why they don't want to stay in mexico. what we need to do is join in partnership with those countries to ensure that we have mutual economic interest to develop that area with our private businesses as well as help them secure their countries. what we should not do is what the president has done which is completely withdrawn all that
assistance, left a void so that the cartels, the poverty rate increases which is another driving force. the second thing we need to do and understand, is understand that our laws including international laws allows asylum-seekers, those with legitimate cases to seek asylum in our country to take their time in court. we have to respect those laws as well. host: should those asylum-seekers have to seek asylum in the first country they transit to before they come to the united states? guest: if you are being persecuted by your own government or by people who are corrupt or individuals that are telling you that you need to start selling your daughter to the cartel services or you are all going to die, then you go to the government, you think they will feel safe seeking asylum within their own government? it is a matter of common sense. human behavior is going to do
everything they can to protect her life and their children's life. i know i would. host: steve is next out of illinois, independent. sad what iss very happening on the southern congressmanour u.s. and we have so many homeless vets and so many homeless people , i think we should help them first. ,f we can help the other people we should put our funds in there. day are committing suicide. can't taked that we more funds and help them out. let is all i have to say. -- that is all i have to say. peoplewe would help more here then thinking about immigrants. all, i also of
share an enormous amount of compassion and outrage in the way that veterans are treated in this country. choice that the oftentimes gets poised in terms otherosing one versus the is not a choice necessarily of necessity but because we can do both and we should treat our veterans better. i have served on the v.a. committee and currently i am helping lead the fight to protect our service members and veterans from the toxic exposures of burn pits and we are working on expanding the mental health services for our --erans to prevent suicidal prevent's -- prevent veterans from committing suicide. you are absolutely right.
we are confronted with a situation and the reality where we have asylum-seekers in the thousands coming to protect her life and there are a lot of -- there is a lot of moral outrage with the fact that these children are dying in the custer reit -- in the custody of the federal government. we must continue to serve our veterans and our service members to make sure they are safe and that they have the resources and benefits they need. i share in that outrage with the way our government is so ready to send our young men and women to war but abandoned them when they come home and want to not give them the resources the benefits that they need. host: less than five minutes left. christopher in chicago is a democrat. good morning. caller: good morning. twould like to give you examples, of the effect of immigration on the job market in chicago. i work in the trades.
problemsat i know have and i have problems myself because i am currently unemployed looking for work. one person i know is puerto rican. and heilingual by nature was told it would not hire him because they wanted to keep the shop all mexican. another person i know lost his job as a supervisor of a medium-sized shop because they called in an efficiency expert recommended that they get rid of the person -- personnel they currently have and he could not remain shop supervisor because he did not speak enough spanish. host: we are running out of time. guest: these -- caller: these are real life experiences on people and they are not coming here to take your job.
they're coming here to take the jobs of my friends and myself and this is something that really needs to be addressed because they are here to take my job. host: congressman. guest: in the district that i represent, agriculture and the tourism industry are the top two or three industries in my district and both the agricultural and the tourism industry, hotels and restaurants et cetera really rely on immigrants for their labor force and we know that if you just do the draconian go out and deport everybody and all of a sudden you don't have the workers, those multibillion-dollar industries would just crash. we saw that happen in one of the southern states not too long ago and they had to reverse their policy. there are some benefits and there are some competition that needs to be addressed. facing is what we are
a moral crisis in our country where we are turning a blind eye to children who are dying under the responsibility of the federal government and we are trying to cast blame on others, trying to point fingers and have political fights and what we need to do is focus and ensure that children have toothbrushes, soap, that they have adequate nutrition, that they have clean water, diapers and formula and baby food while they are in the custody of cbp. that is what this bill is intended to do. it is a resetting of our moral compass to remind us of our american values and the golden rule of do unto others as you would have them do unto you. host: our last call out of oakland, california, a republican. caller: good morning. i just want to ask the congressman, where was his moral outrage last year when the bill came to his desk to sign immigration reform for the
border and he said nay? right now he is a johnny-come-lately, a year after the immigrant bill got to him. host: what bill are you referring to? are you still with us? guest: i'm not sure what she is referring to. we have been advocating wholeheartedly for comprehensive immigration reform that meets the values and the needs of our economy and our safety and i support those bills that meet those requirements and i don't support the bills that are draconian in nature that only foster hate, fear and anxiety. host: journaln's washington live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. friday morning, robert bixby
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