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ke.retary robert will then a veterans reporter discusses her recent at stigative piece looking the rise in cancer rates among and discussing the past and future of u.s. defense. journal o watch c-span a.m.monday morning at 7:00 join in the discussion. veterans day on monday, laying the wreath at the tomb of the unknown. at 7:00, the abc news broadcast of the berlin wall. talk about terans the complexities of war. on veterans day online or c-span radio app. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp 2019] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute,
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which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit] us is let me ask you this question. why did you plan on entering the race? i wasn't planning on it. politics to pay back the healthcare coverage that lioblastoma that john mccain came back. only 8% have survived and my daughter has done it twice. in a safe shelter in june i decided again i needed to do something for the country as i watched everything, i thought there was something that his nation had invested in me, over 31 years in the united states military, in the navy, in order to e represent a nearly two to one republican district as a emocrat and yet they reelected me without spending a penny on a because i aign ad, honestly believe our choice --
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not just to beat mr. trump but to heal our country's soul again, where rica they believe at least somebody will be accountable to them. self, or special interest, that's the primary, running.'m second, we have for far too long didn't le who understand, the military can stop a problem, they will never problem. those who voted for that tragic misadventure in iraq who didn't would end before they decided to begin, led all turkey's shameless invasion, we led them against our kurdish allies today. make sure we restore u.s. leadership to this global world order, that from john f. if kennedy and ronald reagan id, understanding it was our leadership of this global accord around the world that kept our american dream alive and prospering. me ask you about your daughter. how is she doing today?
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wonderful. she's taken a gap year, just after graduating from high school. her courses online, of course, she went to boston for radiation on her and surgeries and all and she wants to be a creative writer and she's moment of it. she's a warrior that's twice as as >> let's talk about joe sestak. you were raised in philadelphia, attend the u.s. naval academy. why? >> i wanted to go into the since states navy ever third grade. y father, an immigrant from czechoslovakia, went off to the navy, world war ii, stayed in afterwards and continued to serve his country. i never met a greater man. i just wanted to go because he find out i loved it. it wasn't just the sea. i loved it because the use of were there -- youth of america were there, came ogether and performed with accountability. come aboard an aircraft carrier,
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steve. those 5,000 ge of sailors is 19 1/2. so i loved that coming together. though, and it, stayed in, because this nation invest in you when you're in the services i mentioned, so i love going to sea. ashore they sent me to harvard university for a doctorate in economics and be rnment in order to utilized, for example, for in the white ton house to develop the national securities -- what i owe the for the experience it gave me, i'm glad i followed my know,r, understanding, you integrity and values really are service to country to others accountability and answering for one self. boy, this nation took care of us then. when my daughter's brain cancer came back twice, with the healthcare it gave us. 1974, a year that was full of political turmoil. graduated second in your class. who graduated first? savage, a wonderful
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individual. went off into the medical corps, and, as i remember, it was ronald reagan's personal physician. i tell you, he was one of those guys that just didn't have to much after the evening meal. i'm in there pouring through the books. great guy. when you look at where we are today, when you graduated in that richard nixon resigned the presidency, the impeachment debate was front center. our first appointed president, you d ford, what were thinking then and are there parallels to what we're dealing with today? parallels.e president nixon actually spoke at the graduation as we were off to sea. his nation was quite divided then. not quite the fabric of america that we have today, and then impeachment, but the difference was that that
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nixon ment was about mr. and whether he had broken the law or not. at today, this impeachment is little different. more tion is divided much so. and it's divided because of and sense at's used of division that too often comes ut from our commander-in-chief and president. and second, this impeachment is because the president has somehow wrapped himself up in half of the country. not the whole. supposed to dore in representing the united states of america. o while i support this mpeachment inquiry, because he had asked a foreign leader to in the o and interfere most blessed sanctity that we have in america, our fair and elections, i would hope it's done in the most nonpartisan way possible because that will happen, no matter the outcome of this, will in this divide of
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america. a president needs who speaks in worlds of unity, not division. what makes that's this so different. it was a war that tore us apart during vietnam. you would stand there at attention marching, as we did would come people around and put flowers in your a different was type of tear. it was over a policy. who we become one over are and what we can be and frankly, that's why i'm running. think policies are so important, but i know that nless you can unite america again, disagree well, we won't fabric in nt in our the hole of the cloth of america and never meet the defining challenges of our moment in history. >> at your commissioning ceremony in annapolis, do you remember what president nixon you and your fellow
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graduates? i frankly don't. not that i'm dismissive of it, heard e at the moment i about it. the excitement of that moment, as we threw our hats up in the as you well know, happens hen you graduate, not caring where it comes down, and my father watching me to give me very first salute, when i whate commissioned, that's i most remember. with all due respect to the president, because there is the the dent and there is presidency, and i think we tend to forget that. we end to forget that when look at that man, at that moment, i looked at the presidency, and while i don't remember his words i was glad no have the presidency there, so to nixon but it's my father i most remember. >> you mentioned being out to sea. as a navy admiral and officer, was the most difficult
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ever had to sestak make in the u.s. navy? >> yes. we are a little different in the the other the other services grew up, cold say, in the war,&there was a wall across europe.and eastern if somebody flew across that from the other side in military aircraft you knew it was an acts aggression for sure and you had very black and white rules. operates on the commons of the seas. everybody owns it. before i went into the persian gulf, in kidnapped of my s, i pulled n my 30 aman, and they came in and briefed you on the rules of engagement, in what was a pretty intense place back then and they aid no iranian aircraft has ever overflown a u.s. navy ship. it's upon you to decide if war and they of went through things again. as i went through that narrow
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all of a hormuz sudden we noticed on radar a combat aircraft taking off and towards us from iran. had to stand there and watch all the parameters i had and make an assessment that i had upon by our nation. and decide if this craft coming could fire that missiles, whether it was an act and did i take a father? there is no mother, may i's out there. even though i was reporting what was going on. end of the day, as it flew overhead, as it had the not to do, i decided fire. it was a large difference of opinion if i did the right thing it was, in my mind proceed, judgment to let it fly over, first act, because this had been after we ship, hitting the ship that i was commanding, it hit a mine, almost sunk two or
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earlier, had been rebuilt and i had flown the argest american flag that i could find, and said, and i i signed at gulf and picture of every crew member on the previous crew that hit a conflict to say, we're back but that tough decision was one that i had been i made for and i think the right decision. >> you know part of the debate role of therace the military. the president is saying he wants to see u.s. troops get out of describes as endless wars but critics saying the troops in syria and good served as a eryone deterrent. broadly-speaking what is the of the u.s. military? when are we in endless wars being used as a deterrent to prevent further wars? militaries should be used for -- almost for reassurance, deterrence. so, for example, today, we have
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had never, ever wanted any amphibious forces after world war ii. has begun now to have amphibious forces because it's getting a that ncerned about china has all of a sudden begun to japan w islands that believes it owns but china wants. so it's beginning to think about conflict?e be a we need to be present out there, aircraftrance with our carrier in japan. i advocated as a navy admiral we be putting one in guam need two ause you aircraft carriers to operate for 24 hours. se, they also are deterrents. our forces were in europe. he problem, what's happened, and why the united states citizenry has understandably faith in u.s. leadership and our global engagement in the told was the tragic decision initially, because
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when i arrived in the aarabian were over 20 international ships waiting to become part of my group. had been on the ground for a very short period of time, brief period of time in the beginning commanded came out, this carrier, and they were and from japan to germany italy said we've come because america has been attacked. on 9/11. but when i went into the persian gulf to later begin the iraq sor strikes against only two of the countries went with us because they understood, leaders did not, that them - we couldn't tell how it would end and sunni they t shia, and then created isis that metastasized took us into syria. we needed to be there but we didn't do syria well. us a year and a half to give small arms to the secular
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who forces against assad were fighting the beginnings of isis. because of the delay isis filled put troops in and having put them down, so to speak, in jails and in other underground at least, we then abandoned our ally. is, we e overall for me lead this world in global ourership with the power of diplomacy. the power of our economy. the military should be there for reassurance and to be used only, almost as a last resort, and the of that is iran, to where we convenient the world under diplomatic and economic sanctions, including strange and llows like china russia, so economic and diplomatic persuasion removed the nuclear weapons making cable, where we would have had two nuclear devices in 60 days, we fixed that problem and now we broke our word under this president and that accord when they kept their word and now we're going perhaps withroblem
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our military. military will stop the problem, steve. never fix a problem. we have to make sure people understand our engagement in the world, which they lost faith in because of that tragic iraq which let isis metastasized throughout the eventually. because of a terrible decision that was supported by democrats and republicans in the senate alike.gress we need someone who understands this world to lead us back to u.s. leadership. reassure our allies and to protect our interests overseas. reassuring and standing together even on trade with don't go we one-on-one. we convenient 70% or 80% of the world's gross deck product from the transpacific partnership say, ries, japan, and china, you want to trade fairly? you're going to have to be able or 80% of the 0% world. we're standing shoulder to shoulder with the world trade
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organization. now let's go by the rules of the road of trade. one-on-one. we're strong when we are with our allies together. to go back to what you said earlier about the presidency and the president. occupant, donald trump, your view of him is what? mr. trump has forgotten what a leader is supposed to be. hether it's a captain of the ship or the commander in chief of our military forces or greatest nation in the world. that leaders bring together people. they are the ones that unite a leaderecause it's also a who does not believe he is above accountability. of a ship is ew suddenly harmed or goes into -- goes aground, captain of a navy ship is relieved for cause, but if it's not, and the crew things the captain of the
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ship is above accountability, the crew loses trust in hat captain and the ship disintegrates into chaos. that's what's began to happen in the united states. unfortunately believes he's above accountability, for bad incendiary or language that divides and doesn't unite. this is a simple leadership issue. you must respect the other side. y that i mean, republicans and democrats. i represent a republican district. you can't find a word from me utting down the republican party but you find me disagreeing on policies. in a still -- a question about can we heal our soul? can we remind americans who we one?hen we're together as and that's the challenge because he divisiveness that's come about from the rhetoric, unfortunately too often from the white house, it doesn't mean the democrats haven't done it, but not -- the president is the
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of the united states of america, not the undivided states of america. 2006 you your race in defeated the republican incumbent curt welden. how did you do that? my wife to way i got marry me. i proposed to her two days after later er and eight years she said yes. persistence. and that's what we did. to a train stop or a bus stop every morning at out a.m. and i would hand brochure to everybody that was coming and going to work and i would say, you know, i'm a navy admiral running on national security, which begins and i'm health security a democrat. i would appreciate it if you would read this brochure. it it was nearly a two to one republican district. we just worked it hard. we went to the media. the local media. not just the national media. so that was how we did it with people-to-people.
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explain it any other way than that. i had my classmate bill walsh, brother helping to organize it. and then i just went everywhere rom 6:00 in the morning until late at night. and finally, it was one where people actually did believe what i was saying. admiral, red navy security begins at home and health security and that district supported me. believe, though, that i was a the most senior military combat officer today, veteran, running for the white electedt back then they me and i was the most senior military officer ever elected at hat time to congress, either the senate or the house of representatives. and when i spoke with them, i to see things from their viewpoint. gun control.about if i had an f from it, i said, ook, it isn't the issue about having guns. invited anybody with a gun to
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bring it on the ship, and i ould -- so you could just have some recreation and shoot your don'tal armament -- but i want to have an assault weapons on the streets of america, and hose pictures of me on the website with assault weapons, to i went with my troops board ships with contraband. new t across the state of hampshire walking in the shoes of people but i don't want them on the streets because when we have an assault weapons band n the 1990s, it's an explanation that i appreciate your viewpoint on second right, second amendment rights. gun but here's why i stand where i stand on the use weapons or background checks. >> four years later you decide to run for the senate and you former republican turned democrat arlen specter in the primary. you win the nomination but what kind of opposition you had from the obama white
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house trying to steer you away a primary challenge to , a race which you lost in the general election? wanted to t really run for the senate but once went r switched parties i around to the counties and thought about it and put out a video about anita hill. running because i do not believe pennsylvania should be represented by a senator that voted against working families and had tried to humiliate anita hill, who her sexual harassment allegations and claims against ow supreme court justice clarence thomas. it was a tough position. nder the me, too, generation that senator never ould have been accepted by the party but accountability for doing what's right, for people, atters when it does have consequences for one self. a so the president on down, fine president on down, endorsed
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him. example, of ut, for going to the wards in philadelphia so i went to over churches n-american where they welcomed me. it's why i wasn't to teach at a afterwards, to pay them back so the consequences was immense money me, but i was 40 of ts down, and the people pennsylvania, republicans and democratic alike, agreed with and then i won. but you learn a lesson in politics. it's perhaps better to offend than a politician because at least god will give forgiveness, very little with support from my party, in fact, they l years later literally gave almost eight imes the monetary support to who won the primary as a democrat than i got, i went home. fortunate, because my daughter's brain cancer came back and my wife, who travels a for international environmental issues, as well as v.a. on study for the
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sue side, was able to let me be here at all times with her and i was fortunate because of that but i also know this. hen i ran again and my party actually put more millions in from the democratic senatorial than they putttee in against mitch mcconnell two years earlier to be able to and being able to say, look, i'm for people above above self, above any special interest, regardless of consequences that having stood for the rights of women like anita hill and others, my party's desire, before the me, too, generation, go a long way ll toward us trying to demonstrate not just by word but by deed. a nearly two to one republican district and have an 95% for the a, human rights campaign, hahn percent for the national get ization of women, reelected without spending a yet, by 20 points, and
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stood up to my party, on the times where it was wrong. and so i think that's what this is actually looking for. if it is ever to be united again. the anita hill hearings. of course, chair of the committee at the time, joe biden, senator from delaware, ghoun of your competitors. do you have an issue with the during the rmed hearing of clarence thomas? >> i do believe, just like the ship, if you're in charge as he was as chair of should mittee, that you be accountable for how it was conducted. at all as not conducted in a fair means to anita hill. those,t's my point about as mr. biden also did, who voted in iraq.war tore down the one place where we definitely do need a wall to and greed out accountability in, and then when hey tore that name down, aptly named wall street destroyed my
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constituency's livelihoods in great recession but not one politician, not one, for the hill, for that a war in iraq, which left two ecades of unaccountable consequences, or the devastation that this great recession did to accounted has ever for themselves. to be -- as they were that happening. very much that accountability, this naccountability leadership is responsible for the lack of trust in america today, with whom we are and what we can be united together because we've lost faith in our leadership down there so i do hearing was not handled well by someone who had office for four terms, and, i think, as you watch the hearings, you can see that ms. not get -- did humiliated because of her own
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personal strength, not because how someone permitted that forum to be conducted. >> there have also been the age of some of the top tier candidates. senator warren is 70. is 78 and former vice president biden will turn 77 in november. is that too old to be president in your mind, you're 67. yeah. i like my age because i think -- i like youth because they aren't burdened with experience but you lso want to make sure you have someone who has had a little bit of experience. s far as whether it's too old, i say, getting old is not an option. growing up is a choice. think you need to make that judgment. did they grow up in the sense of learning the proper principles which we have to have a president. that's where i move myself when
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i'm asked about age. frankly, i wouldn't be running f i thought there was someone on the stage who had two things. demonstration that they are for all americans by the deed, representing a republican district, standing up to the party with consequences. but also, global experience. bread of 31 years, aving presidents and parliamentarians come on-board, demanding men and women, the highest america, the honor anyone can be given in our nation, did you learn the that, the out of military will stop a problem. they will not fix a problem. also, when presented with a decision of our military will ou know how it will end before it begins? that's absent in the experience of those old or young, that's on the stage. both of those two elements are i did in agt unity as
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the republican district. even when we disagree well. to understand that it is this global concord in america had after the world's greatest generation coming home from world war ii going to fight a third world war as we did the 26 years and they flipped to the flame of justice, f rules-based order, and presidents from john f. kennedy to ronald reagan kept it burning brightly by understanding, how well we peacefully, strongly, kept that flame of justice with our allies and riends lit, we protected our american dream at home. it's now one world, climate of the global 85% emissions will come from, or the liberal -- might makes right. we need to understand how to and e with our allies
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friends that that flame of justice prevails without having that's ur military and the second reason i'm running, to unite this country. back to you and your wife after eight years what finally convinced her to say yes? >> persistence, i guess. we were on an exchange over to the soviet union. wall was coming down. and in my group five military over.ers were going i represented the joint staff nd a person was supposed to go and he got sick and this beautiful young woman showed up, and i proposed. looked at me and said no. of course, she's going with omeone, but i kept at it from having a party for everybody as we came home to celebrating our home.g i just kept at it. i that was -- i was 38 when proposed. got married at 47 and we both ave the strongest and most wonderful daughters, as i said, that came through twice because
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of this country's healthcare cancer.brain i'm so fortunate to have them both. >> how do you break through in campaign? how do you get on the debate stage? >> what is your strategy? today, sir.e go uld do anything, anywhere. miles across 105 new hampshire. started in a mental health facility at 8:00 in the morning where they have first responders and visitors there. across, i visit a prison every year, whether i was a congressman or afterwards. i went in there to see how the most progressive prison is run new hampshire. went to the grant it in state trade school to where they are training the artisans. force america's work have, doesn't have but
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they have the skills, their and hands working together. so what happens when the guy or in the coal ir job mine? them for green energy? they don't. y overall thing is i'll go anywhere and meet anyone. left iowa, we went to 230 events, traveled 17,000 miles, lived in an econo lodge and we tried to fill the holes, a little different there. you've got 1,800 precincts. holes, and as you learn in the military, amateurs do logistics.perts do so we tried to start filling the and getting that done because -- three or four voting night, and here i am in new hampshire, where everybody has said it's wide open. and the president has been great. they walked during a nor'easter.
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showed up. in the rain. so we're working hard, but issues matter. want people to know, i'll shoes, just like in "to kill a mockingbird," you man until you walk in his shoes. that's what i'm trying to do to americans l be all that i'll be for. i think it's the best way to do it because people say i've gotten in late. i actually have a memo from one news national cable networks two days after i got going to have joe sestak on, we consider him late. i can't complain. to work it with a different strategy as i'm doing. >> as you look at this race is single issue, you've talked about your military career, you also served in the house of representatives, one sets you apart from our competitors, or one achievement that you want to highlight? >> let me take the one, not
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highlight, of me to but rather about people. yes, there is one, and i've kind it.entioned it's training for a lifetime. enlisted itary, the run the military. the general, when he was head of union, came over to visit us as the wall was breaking apart. soviet union the on an exchange. fter leaving the aircraft carrier, two weeks being asked what do you most respect? >> we don't have the type of use their hands and minds. that's our labor force. 65% of our nation is there and 12 million of them are out of the work force. that's why our labor 63%, ipation rate is only not 67%. during the clinton era when the booming, they lost their jobs and they don't have he money to regain a new skill when 40% of americans don't even ave $400 according to the
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federal reserve bank for an emergency. loseo, i believe, when you your job, like f-15 goes out of business, we don't kick you out. we send you to air force community college, largest community college in the nation or five weeks or months, you've learned a new skill. if-22, you start maintaining that, why aren't we doing that in iowa. said what are you doing? making sure those lines are absolutely straight because have gps anding to our wireless trackers to do that. to those who do the trackers? nothing. that's why 12 million americans are out of the work force. the economy, the unemployment rate in new hampshire, people say, is 2.5%. no, it's not. it's 7.6% if you include those who have lost it. trump supporters. those are the clinton supporters. to be for supposed the working families, the spend .661% yet we
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of gross domestic product on them. we don't do what other -- that's why i have the program called training for a in my bookat i wrote 2015, walking in the shoes to restore the american dream. i show how it can be done by examples and society aside $200 facilitate that because 1/3 of all small businesses say they can't get the trained work force. win-win for all americans and it's one that, i tell you, if you know anything enlisted men and women in the navy, i lived with them, i went to war with them, i from them, because they ran that city, that aircraft like they run america and we just let them go out when they lose their job retraining them. i can take care of student loans. it's in government. don't have to pay back more than 10% of your income, if, excuse me, after you first adopt 150% of the income level
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poverty that. gets you down to like 7% or 8%. easy one. but what about the 65% of the say,ing americans who often when they don't have the job what about me? sestak, former congressman, retired admiral, a emocratic candidate for the democratic nomination in 2020, joining us from manchester, new hampshire. for being with us. >> steve, thanks for having me aboard. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp 2019] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit] campaign 2020. make up your own mind. 2020, your unfiltered view of politics. >> presidential candidate michael bennett filed his official candidacy paperwork at the new hampshire statehouse, and met with potential primary voters at a town


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