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to ukraine will appear before the committee and ahead of the hearings, read witness testimony at c-span/impeachment. follow the house inquiry on c-span. unfiltered coverage live on tv, our radio app and online. watch primetime reairs at c-span .org/impeachment. >> this morning, the deputy editor of military times discusses issues impacting veterans and his recent secretary robert rookie. tarah copp talks about cancer stew among veterans and
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magnuson talks and we'll talk your call and you can join the conversation. washington journal is next on this veterans day. good morning on this november 11, 2019, veterans day. we are at arlington national cemetery today for ceremonies honoring those who have served and their families in the u.s. military. you are looking at the tomb of the unknown soldier in arlington . vice president pence will be there this morning, 11:00 a.m., for a wreathlaying ceremony. innwhile, president trump is new york city this morning for a veterans day parade. go to c-span.org for details. we begin this morning in the first hour with the public
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hearings this week on the impeachment inquiry. republicans demanding that the whistleblower at the center of the impeachment testify at those hearings. we want to get your reaction to that. should the whistleblower testify? democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. .n independents, (202) 748-8002 text us at (202) 748-0003. or go to twitter, @cspanwj, or journal@c-span.org -- or facebook.com/cspan. the top republican on the committee said the letter to adam schiff, writing that "because president trump should be afforded the opportunity to confront his accusers, the
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adam schiff, top democrat on the committee, responded in his own letter, saying that the committee -- host: what do all of you say this morning? look at how republicans reacted on the sunday shows.
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it we begin with lindsey graham, ."o was on "fox sunday this is what he had to say about the whistleblower testifying. [video clip] find outortant that we what happened around the firing of the prosecutor and the conflict of interest that hunter biden had. without the whistleblower it's impossible to bring this forward without knowing who the whistleblower is and having a chance to cross examine them. so, if they don't call the whistleblower in the house, this thing is dead on arrival in the senate. graham.at was lindsey it will hurt was also on the sunday shows. willerate republican -- urt, a moderate republican, was on the sunday shows. >> --[video clip]
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>> having this whistleblower law on the books is important. it's an important checks and balance at not only on the intelligence community, but in our government. i do want to see adam schiff answering questions about what his engagement was with the thetleblower before allegations were transmitted to congress. he has misled the american public earlier in the year on the he knew about and contact that he had with the whistleblower. want to protect the identity of the whistleblower? it's important for chairmanship to answer questions about it. those impeachment inquiries getting underway this week, wednesday, 10 a.m. eastern time. the committee will hear in andic from bill taylor george kent.
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coverage begins at 10 a.m. on c-span three, c-span.org, or download the free c-span radio app. friday on c-span2 two at 11 a.m. eastern time, the committee and all of you will be able to hear u.n. ambassador to the ukraine, maria von the rich. she will be testifying on c-span 2, c-span.org -- marie , who will be testifying on c-span 2, c-span.org, or the radio at. eugene, what do you think? -- radio app. eugene, what do you think? caller: he should not be testifying. legally we are supposed to protect his identity. the intimidation by the president and his minions should be illegal. they should be prosecuted for trying to reveal that identity.
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host: carl, what do you think? caller: first of all, i'm a veteran and i want to wish my a veterans day. it'snk it's sad that impeachment on trumps veterans day. court. a kangaroo democrats have the veto power anyone the republicans want to have to witness. that is solely unfair. it's a farce. i'm telling you. you know? trump is not a politician. maybe he don't follow the mold that politicians follow. but he's doing a lot for this country. he was -- the people in the media was impeaching him before
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he ever set foot in the white house. this is a very sad day for our country. i would like to wish all of my fellow veterans happy veterans day. as we said, the impeachment hearings getting underway. publicans demanding that the whistleblower at the center of the inquiry testify. all things related to impeachment you can find on our website, if you go to c-span.org/impeachment. vance, richmond, hello. caller: can you hear me? host: yes, we can. have been the past i cut off by c-span. i just wanted to say that, you know, who governs? the individuals who are long-term ambassadors? the people in the central intelligence agency?
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the contractors? do they govern us? or do our elected representatives, are they the ones who govern? host: your point being? yes, former cia director thank god for the deep state. two years ago we were told that we were conspiracy theorists if we even used the term deep state . there is a deep state. the imprimatur of people like john mclaughlin. my point is that this is not a whistleblower. d'etat a deep state coup . it has been that since the very beginning of the trump administration. they don't like his policy with regards to syria. they don't like his policy with regards to ukraine and russia. they have been trying to get him
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out ever since he became president. basically because of these deep policy differences. this is the thing i really want to bring out. his opposition is not just democrats. it's the neocon republicans. they want to put mike pence in. from the very beginning, mike pence has been in opposition to trump on these policy issues. issues, butpolicy for the first six months of his administration, he had a chief petcock, whohua seaman,ied to katherine who worked directly with pierce stroke in the fbi. pence is part of the coup plot against trump as much as the democrats with adam schiff.
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robert is watching there, an independent caller. you are next. caller: i am a vietnam veteran. i used to live in maryland several years ago. i reported veterans that were being physically and psychologically abused at the va hospital. they got to the point were at the secretary of veterans affairs involved. think the whistleblower should be made public. from this point until now my life has been hell in the v.a. for being a whistleblower. and i'm a combat veteran. i know what it's like. these guys should be protected. host: jacqui spear was on abc
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this week and this is what she had to say. [video clip] was on thedemann call and will be in a position to testify. you have a much more direct person to speak to about the event. actual have the transcript that the president himself provided that is corroboration. what we have to prove, though, is corrupt intent. we prove that by showing first of all that the money was withheld. concealment. concealment by virtue of having the transcript in a special server. concealment because you have persons in the administration prevented from testifying. go further and you have this diversion by the president,
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trying to focus on the whistleblower, who has the right not to be -- >> congresswoman -- speercongresswoman jackie , on the sunday shows. from "the new york times," this four authors.by host: host: powder springs, georgia,
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democratic caller. what do you think? caller: good morning, how are you this morning? host: i'm doing well. you? caller: i'm just fine. the thing about the whistleblower that people don't understand, if i suspected one of my neighbors of holding a woman prisoner in his home, or several women prisoner in his sex trafficking or some other illegal action happening inside at home, and i suspected it wasn't sure, the whistleblower law allows me to to thewhat i think authorities so that they can investigate, to see if anything horrible is happening there. my name is supposed to be
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withheld. nothing bad will happen to that person if it isn't true. but something bad will happen to me if i'm suspected of making a false complaint against somebody . but i'm also, as a teacher, i was required by law to report any time that i suspected that there might be child-abuse going on in the home. that was the law. i had to do that. to report, if i suspected, if i even thought it was possible. i would place myself in jeopardy if my name was released to the public. people get angry when you say something and they don't approve of it. this whistleblower law is not only to protect this man, this whistleblower law should not be taken down just because the republicans are trying to
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challenge the process of this inquiry. is what the whistleblower's attorney said back in october. host: bill, republican line, pennsylvania. what do you think? i think the first thing i would like to say is happy veterans day to the that. here's the thing that we can't
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celebrate veterans day, can't celebrate thanksgiving or christmas. through all of this. do one thing for me, if you would, greta. of vice president biden saying that if he doesn't have the prosecutor fired, if they don't get him fired, he is going to hold up a billion dollars. now everything that they are saying that this whistleblower biden did trump, exactly the same thing. this is such a case of a good defense is a strong offense. they are attacking trump when, really, who they have the goods on on tape is joe biden, saying that if he doesn't drop the prosecution -- bill, the former vice
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president said that he was holding up aid because they were not doing enough to fight corruption, which would have hurt the former vice president's son, because he was on the board of a company that was supposed to be investigated for corruption. how do you respond when people say that that is different than the president of the united states allegedly asking for an investigation into a political rival? caller: so you say. show the clip, let the viewers make their own determinations. we think that this is nothing but a pile of garbage. no one is going to watch it. no one is interested in the full impeachment except a couple of jilted hillary clinton fans. sorry, that's all this is about. host: you and other people can go to our website, there is the former vice president at the council for foreign relations, where he talked about his role in ukraine. this is the clip that folks like
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bill are talking about. and watchnd it there for yourself. you can watch the entire event as well. peggy, washington state. democratic caller. hi.er: good morning. the whistleblower should be protected. first of all, impeachment, either criminal trial or legal process, the president doesn't have the constitutional right to -- impeachment is neither a criminal trial or a legal process. the president have the constitutional right to confront his accuser. thank you. host: tom? caller: the president is exactly 100% of the time. it anybody from jesus time knows you, roman time, knows that can confront your accrete --
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confront your accuser. call dr. phil. it's a scam. adam schiff is a scam. host: why do you say that? anybodyhe won't let talk or ask questions from the and -- from the other side. or bring their own witnesses. that's obvious. why would you ask me that question? host: i want to know your opinion. caller: i just gave it to you. host: ok, that's the point of the show. trump backers turn up heat -- point of schiff the show. "trump backers turn up the heat against adam schiff." . host: "politico" reports that democrats have three questions at hand. the first is this --
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host: you can read more from politico.com. democrats unveil three questions to guide public impeachment hearings.
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all things impeachment you can find on our website. every event, debate, hearing, news conference. you can find it if you go to /impeachment. chris, rockville, maryland. republican. hi, chris. caller: good morning. a couple of things. the impeachment circumstances, the whistleblower, i think he should testify. i enough information has come out to connect this particular whistleblower to what looks like, you know, some deep ties to the cia, to brennan. i think that the public, by not hearing more depth on this, is going to be like i am. somewhat confused. adam schiff did this on purpose and he did it for weeks.
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without any kind of real i guess pushback from republicans. because the american people, like me, thinking that something is really terrible and maybe it wasn't. maybe it is entirely different than it appears. my vote is to allow him to speak. and be cross examined. i would also say this. there are some things that if i was the president i wouldn't have done. the joe biden hunter biden thing is pretty obvious. you don't need to investigate it . you have a pattern that was investigated before of a family member connected with official trips in the united states. being paid by those governments for doing some sort of influencing. that doesn't need to be investigated, that's already out there. i wish the president hadn't brought it up. the other thing, the reason i
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understand joe biden was put in charge of the situation, after 2014 and the overthrow of the president of ukraine and the new president taking hold was the united states did deliver aid and the eight got lost. i understood that $1 billion or so ended up in some bank somewhere and disappeared. if it were me on face value, i would want to know that wasn't going to happen again before i released aid. that's what i think. will point you to the front page of "the new york times" this morning, who has a story about the former vice president's role in ukraine. "what did joe biden do in ukraine"? it has the back story about how president obama appointed him to end corruption and what sort of influence the former vice president had on president
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obama's thinking towards ukraine. front page of "the new york times" for those of you who might be interested in that back story. alan, good morning to you. caller: i have an washing c-span for years. i watch it when i get a chance. it's very informative. anyway, i have to say this. really sick and tired, every morning when i turned the tv on, it's some crony there from the obama administration or wherever. it's always an attack on the president. what have theke, democrats done in the last few years? investigate, investigate, investigate. they are still doing the same thing. the stories of the impeachment
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deal, this whistleblower -- as i recall, a liberal constitutional attorney, al horowitz, was in an interview saying that regarding the constitution, the president is immune from that. the point i want to make is, something this important, democrat, republican, i don't care who it is. there are 60 billion people like this and they don't have the right to know who the whistleblower is? common sense would tell you -- host: how do you respond to the other side of the argument fit, adam schiff, who says that what the whistleblower said in his complaint has been corroborated by others. so, his testimony is unnecessary and redundant? mr. schiff has the right to his opinion. the point is open it up, make it transparent. that isn't being done.
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he's selecting people saying what they can and can't say. even though that was the republican administration from a couple of years ago, i get that, but i also pointed out that any member was allowed to be in the meeting. he has violated that. deal and's a slanted adam schiff, far as i'm concerned, is a liar. regardless of what you think about the situation, lay it on the table and be fair. the other gentleman made a good point. have an investigation. i guarantee you that if you do a fair, honest investigation, that alien dollars went somewhere. about it, hiss son knows about it and i believe that president obama knew about it. i don't mean to be mean, but we need to start being honest to one another, lay everything out
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there, do the right thing, quit this back and forth. the american people deserve better than what we are getting right now. every day it's the democrats, cnn, the clinton network, msnbc, sleepy eyes, these people -- again -- host: we heard your point. democratic caller, kingston. of a moderatere democrat. i have a lot of moderate friends that travel and they say the more moderate democrats that they talk to, they travel to kansas city and st. louis, .arbondale they think the whistleblower isn't even a whistleblower. they are all kind of turning trump. rallyould like trump to in those cities. if you get into illinois, he
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could draw a million people, democrats from the chicagoland area if you would just go down .o carbondale, dixon, moline there are a lot of moderate democrats, just people who, people like other moderates that you talk to that are going trump . the whistleblower isn't really a whistleblower. if you read about it. most people know that, a lot of democrats know that that are moderate and might turn trump. there are a lot of trump signs going in the area. everyone i know that travels that is a democrat tells me that. thank you. there?re you still we lost her. mike, iowa bank, what do you think? -- mike, iowa, what do you think? is shiftless. seriously, we're going to believe that guy? and you are going to believe
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"the washington post" or "the you are on cnn and peddling this crap. host: this is c-span. not cnn. caller: what? whatever. you are peddling this on the post, the times, all this. these flyers are in their. then you've got msnbc. they are the biggest frauds on the freaking planet. faceless.s trump got that right. come on, let's talk about things. good. how about money that trump gave to the veterans day parade today? why aren't we talking about this stuff? things that are good for the country that trump has done? talking aboutbe
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veterans issues for the last two .ours of today's program as we said at the top of the program, the president will be in new york city for the veterans day parade this morning. go to c-span.org for more details. there is the public impeachment hearing this week. lawmakers on the house intelligence committee will hear taylorp diplomats bill and george kent wednesday morning at 10 a.m. eastern time. we will have coverage of that on c-span three, on our website, c-span.org, or you can download c-span radio app. friday, when ambassador in ukraine testifies, marie yovanovitch, you can watch that at 11 a.m. eastern time on c-span.org or download the free c-span radio app. you can find all impeachment coverage at c-span.org/impeachment. , the former u.s.
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ambassador to the united nations, how the new book, making news. "x diplomat writes ex-efending trump -- diplomat writes on defending trump." on cbs sunday morning talking about her book and was asked about this impeachment inquiry. here is what she had to say. [video clip] >> on what? impeach a president for asking for a favor that didn't happen and money that wasn't withheld? i don't know what you would impeach him on. impeachment is like the death penalty for a public official. ,hen you look at the transcript there's nothing in the transcript that warrants the death penalty for the president. >> it was not a complete transcript, there are things
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that are missing from it. in it he does say i would like you to do us a favor, though. >> the ukrainians never did the investigation and the president released the funds. when you look at those, there's nothing impeachable there. more than that, the biggest thing that bothers me is the american people should decide this. why we have a bunch of people in congress making this decision? that was nikki haley, on "cbs sunday morning," along with speculation in the papers that she might possibly be a president after 2020. other news this morning, peter 14 term republican lawmaker from new york has announced that he will be retiring. called it a difficult decision, but that it was time to be back home. happening this week in washington, "the wall street journal" has this headline.
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courts." -- "high court to weight daca." daca." host: outside of the supreme court, those who want those limited public seats have been
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camping out over the weekend to try to get one of those limited seats to the hearing that will take place on tuesday. we will air the oral argument at the end of the week this week on friday. more news coming on that this week in washington. also happening this week in washington, the turkish president, mr. do one, is slated to make a visit to d.c. as well, so look out for -- mercr. er a visits slated to make to d.c. as well, so look out for that. back to our conversation, should this whistleblower testify and public hearings -- in public hearings question mark phil, yonkers. what do you think? caller: goodness, good morning. thank goodness for the thependents who have seen light. we heard it on television, the
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video where biden use our tax dollars. dollars toour tax force the ukrainian government to get rid of that prosecutor that is doing this investigation about my son. that is the quid pro quo. c-span, all of these phony fake media programs and newspapers that you cite, who have been calling trump guilty and here's the reason why he's going down, for the last three years you are the enemy within the state. host: what we are doing is providing you the other side of the argument to have a conversation with you. it's not an endorsement of the newspapers, but it is what people are reading here in washington and around the country, so we are letting you know what the decision-makers are reading to inform you and have a better conversation on the program.
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other side of the argument trey caller calling in, it's to get that perspective out there and have all of you respond. patrick, alabama, republican line. go ahead. caller: [laughter] yes, ma'am. miss greta, i was just laughing. top of the morning to america. happy 1111 to the veterans, former, past, and present. the whistleblower, i reckon he should speak his piece and be able to be cross examined. , i mean, thisat whistleblowing, they are going to be whistling over the tombstones. it's going to whistle right up to barack obama and hillary rotten clinton campaign. all the dirty dealing with a dead. i'm just echoing what some of my fellow americans are announcing
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to america. the democrats are so backed up against the wall, they threw everything at our president, who they despise since before he got off the escalator. ever since that day, with john , thean, clapper, comey oars, mccabe. they have been trying to hang president donald trump before he got off the escalator. . would say one thing for his wife, mrs. president trump, she has been so ignored darne whole media, every one of the media outlets. the world went crazy over michelle obama. wife.l barack obama's themrs. trump doesn't get respect that she deserves of
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being a first lady of america. ,nd i want this whistle so-called whistleblower, he can say what he wants to say, but i do believe that he was a plant and it's all a show. six ways to sunday he should be investigated. patrick, are you going to watch the public hearings this week? caller: excuse me, ma'am? host: are you going to watch the public hearings question mark caller: [laughter] i doubt it. -- hearings? caller: [laughter] i doubt it. going to watch "the price is right." host: bobby, good morning. caller: i been listening to all of your callers, including the republican supporters of trump. it's sad to say but they are idiotic. remember frank wheels?
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host: nope. caller: the black man, the janitor who stumbled onto watergate. did you know that? a black man. should the whistleblower testify? no. look him up, they destroyed him. that --he whistleblower by accident. he wasn't intending on going to work that day and stumbling on anything. he did and exposed it. when he exposed it, they destroyed him. you going to bring a whistleblower out? let's say the president was a democrat, doesn't matter. they would destroy him. no, the whistleblower should not identify themselves. i'm going to be looking at it on wednesday and friday. i find it all, go. really, i do. should the whistleblower speak and come out? no, they should not.
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to senator lindsey graham, republican of south carolina on "sunday morning futures," on fox. listen what he had to say about the demands for the whistleblower and hunter biden to testify. caller: any impeachment --[video clip] >> any impeachment in the house is invalid without the whistleblower testify. i also see the need for hunter biden to be called to adequately defend the president. if you don't do those things, it's a complete joke. brian, it's your turn. should the whistleblower testify? like you should testify. however his name has been out in the public for quite some time. there are journalists who have been following him and reporting on him. people already know him. what's more important is what said.-- adam schiff
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if you look at the congress' hearings, he talks like a 1920 criminal in order to caller r trump as ala criminal. biden did the same thing. obama did the same thing. thailand, south korea. obama in a phone course -- conversation with egypt withheld hundreds of millions of dollars in military and economic assistance. so, all of these people are getting upset, they just really don't like trump. they are willing to go see what has happened in the past. "the daily beast" had this over the weekend.
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host: if you are all interested and thought that this was the whistleblower, read this story. york, valley cottage, new republican. good morning, peter. a comment and a question. i think the whistleblower should testify. we are talking about impeaching the president of the united nothing inthere is the whistleblower law that guarantees anonymity. it just guarantees that the individual will not be persecuted as a result of coming forward. secondly, i noticed that you guys are very very, very particular on who you correct when you call in. i have heard people make outrageous statements that are totally wrong and you guys never correct them. i wish you would correct people more, particularly on the fact. third of all, have you guys
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, thected john solomon investigative reporter who has done terrific work on this whole thing? he has uncovered a tremendous amount of evidence regarding ukraine. i think you should have him on the show. have him talk to the people about this stuff. also, have you guys exposed the emails that were just shown about the loyal for the whistleblower, back in 2017 he stated that the coup had begun? stinks.thing i wish you guys would have john solomon on. did you ask them to appear on your show? host: i can't answer that question specifically. i think we might have, but i can answer definitively. however, we welcome the suggestion. lori, florida, independent. hi, lori. caller: hi, how you doing? host: good morning.
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good morning. thank you to all of veterans. and thank you for having a show that is open to every process and opinion. host: and what is yours, lori? should the whistleblower testify? well, i think that yes the whistleblower should testify . however, i still think that it undercover. because it seems, from my a --on that there is almost a relish from the republicans to find who this person is. almost like if you were in a mobster mentality. find the person that's turning on you and you will make their life impossible. you know? if not threatened.
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i am originally a new yorker. really believe that the threat is there, you know? and personally coming you know, i do think that donald trump is, has been running our country much like his businesses. which is bankrupt, bankrupt, bankrupt. host: steve in detroit. democratic caller. hi, steve. caller: good morning, greta. how are you? caller: good morning. i refuse to believe this. first it was the republican saying -- host: we are listening, you don't have to what? caller: you don't have to speak up. you don't have to go stand , don't haveemocrats to stand before the republicans. what's really going on? one hand hides the other hand.
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first and foremost, you know, you lookingou, you, at things. they want you to testify against the whistleblower? i don't think he should. like the man said to bring calls puts their life in danger. host: ok. i believe that there. the suggestion that don solomon comes on the program, he's a fox reminded,ibutor, i'm paid by fox news. there are often complex there, where they are not allowed under contract to appear on other networks. vivian, fredericksburg, democratic caller. caller: thank you for taking my call. i'm glad you are correcting some of the lies, but more needs to be done. i'm trying to understand, what does the whistleblower, hunter biden, have to do with what
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trump did? for something, you want something in return. these trump supporters, they got down.alking points they can't even think or even say anything past the talking points. yes, the whistleblower can .estify can trump testify? can his criminal enterprise, criminal family testify in public? not going to testify? no, the whistleblower shouldn't testify. nor should hunter biden. they didn't do this. trump did this. christine, chicago, independent line. caller: first i would like to thank the veterans for all that they have sacrificed for this country. i would also like to mention that this whistleblower, first
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of all, it was secondhand. if you have ever worked in an gossipand listened to and its secondhand and people .ie about things all the time what i hate about washington, first, i don't know how adam schiff got so much power when he is a known liar. when they saw the mueller report heldt going anywhere, he up a piece of paper in said -- i have the evidence. ok. he had no evidence. now he is in congress. what trump said? he never planned trump putting up the transcript. what adam schiff did was lie about that. we are supposed to think -- you know what? have cut the salary of all of people doing this. i'm not paying their salary to do something, go after our
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president. i didn't like obama, but i didn't -- i would never talk about him the way these people are talking. it's disgusting. my father was a 30 year life are -- lifer in the air force. i don't like this behind closed doors garbage. i will tell you something. people in chicago, they say they are democrats. i live in a 1600 unit building. they have always been democrats, no more. see the bigand, we picture. we see it. call your congressman. do you think they care what we think? no, they don't. here's the argument by jackie speier and others as to why the whistleblower should not testify in public and why they are going forward with open hearings from other witnesses.
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here is what she had to say on "abc this week." [video clip] >> the whistleblower provided a document, thirdhand. colonel lindemann was on the call. he will be in a position to testify. he's a better person to speak to about the events. have the transcript that the president himself provided that is corroboration. what we have to prove is corrupt intent. we proved corrupt intent by showing first of all that the money was withheld. secondly, there was concealment. concealment by virtue of having that transcript put into a special server. you have concealment because you have persons within the administration prevented from testifying. you then go further and you have
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this diverse and by the president, by trying to focus on the whistleblower, who has illegally the right not to be -- >> but congresswoman -- ohio,sharon, youngstown, should the whistleblower testify? caller: he's not needed, he's not a first-hand witness. if they are just doing a hit job, trying to do a hit job on him, we know about the mob tactics. i live in youngstown. there was a guy who pretended to collect money for the veterans, but he used it for himself. he was charged with fraud and thrown in jail. wait, that wasn't true. it was our commander in chief that did this. the so-called charitable trump foundation was recently shutdown find $2 million. he claimed to be giving money to veterans and instead he used the money for his personal use, including the purchase of paintings of himself, like a good dictator would.
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when did it become fashionable for the publicans to betray our veterans and our country and support a president whose every action is benefiting russia? i am alarmed by what is happening. trump is desperate to make us believe it was ukraine who interfered with our elections and not russia. from the start they tried to remove the russian sanctions that were imposed by congress. next't know what country he is going to invade and what is going to happen next, but please, please republicans, i know you are good people. please start paying attention. thank you. george,l right, pittsburgh, republican. hi, george. caller: how you doing today? let me say. -- let me say that in my world, a whistleblower is a snitch. i get really tired of people just standing around, have nothing to do with all the criminality going on, and then
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everybody want to print it up and say hold up, homey's. you know? this isn't right. cut me a break. now they are up to the vice president and everything? stitches, there's a snitch are -- snitcher and a snitchee. they can't do everything -- they can't do anything right. pat, good morning. caller: i'll tell you what i'm upset about. i'm upset by these three people that are going to testify this week. they have already been behind closed doors. so, they know what's going to be said. some of it has been leaked. i don't care what they say. said has been documented on the memos.
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concerned, he hasn't done anything wrong. all of this is such -- i will just say what he said. it's a witchhunt. they know, the democrats know they can't win the 2020 election with the people they got. bloomberg, that's the reason he stepped in. hillary may step in before it's all over with. what they have got now, the theye they have got now, have got a hoax. they are trying to bring trump down. it's a clue, that's what it is. i guarantee you, i don't think pelosi will ever impeach him. if she does, the republicans in the senate will not convict him. is just purerap .rap, is what it is gets me so irritated, i don't know what to do.
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host: on wednesday the people testifying will be the top of the mats in this area. bill taylor, who took over for the former u.s. ambassador, the special envoy in ukraine. he will be testifying at 10 a.m. eastern time on wednesday on it on our can find website, c-span.org. , if you're noten near a screen and walking around, you can listen on the c-span radio app. , marie elon which -- murray yovanovitch will test of -- marie yovanovitch will testify on c-span2, on our website, c-span.org, or the radio app. you can find everything on her website related to the impeachment inquiry if you go to c-span.org/impeachment.
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vanessa, hollywood, florida, republican. you are next. what do you think? should the whistleblower be known and testify in public? morning.ood i don't believe the whistleblower should be known. in corporate america if there is harassment going on, it is not supposed to be known. you know? they go to the investigation in corporate, they find out what's going on and they make determination on the employee. it's not about who tells. the problem is that something wrong is happening. host: wilmington, delaware, independent. your thoughts question mark -- thoughts? yves? delaware? ok. don, independent line. you are on the air. caller: hi, greta. i would like to thank all of my
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fellow veterans today. as far as the whistleblower is concerned, no, he shouldn't be outed for any reason. her hasorted by him or by at least 10 other state department or department of defense individuals. upy have absolutely backed everything that the whistleblower has said. host: where do you get that number, 10? caller: more than that, i think 11 people have gone in front of the committee and have testified. if i'm not -- i could be mistaken, but i don't believe i am, though. more than just the individual three you mentioned have gone to the committee and confirmed the facts as the whistleblower has presented them. as president trump, the
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only president ever to set up a kickback scheme to help with foreign nations, to help himself get elected. that's the point of all this. tit-for-tatt we use . they have never used the pressure to help themselves get elected. that's what trump is doing. that is what he has done his whole life. he has had kickback schemes for everything he has done. casinos, that is why they all went under. he is the kickback king. host: vince, independent line. what do you think? thanks for taking my call.
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i got three quick points. number one, the whistleblower is -- whistleblower law is designed to protect the career or the job of the whistleblower, not to or require himty not to testify. number two, i have been hearing for years about how the deep state was this conspiracy. breitbart, iead on think it was the assistant national security director john mclaughlin said, was quoted as saying "thank god for the deep state." the fact that they were resisting the president, they were doing it on a higher calling. yesterday, nikki -- a woman -- host: nikki haley? caller: yeah, yesterday she said
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general, i mean -- host: john kelly question mark caller: -- john kelly? caller: to me that is evidence of a coup. they should know better because at least kelly should know better because he is in the military. i would like to add the joint chiefs of staff were silent. they should have done something. nikki haley, why didn't she tell the president? host: we are going to leave it there. when we come back, we are going to be turning our attention to veterans issues. shane willmes' leo be here to discuss veterans. mcclatchy newspaper national military and veterans reporter tara copp will be here to discuss her recent investigative piece about the increase of cancer rates with veterans. this is veterans day.
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there is a shot of the tomb of unknowns. we will continue on washington journal, focusing on veterans. we will be right back. ♪ >> here is a look at some books being published this week. former u.s. ambassador nikki haley chronicles her time serving in the trump administration in her memoir, with all due respect. counterterrorism analyst malcolm nance argues the trump administration has compromised national security. a diplomatic correspondent profiles four american diplomats who chose to serve in the middle east following 9/11 in the ambassadors. in a taken for granted, a fox on howrticipant argues
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both political parties can work toward reform. also being published this week in all hell breaking loose, we examined climate change. he provides an account of his time as a navy seal from the right kind of crazy. how -- afterrts on disinvestment and white flight. look for these titles in bookstores this coming week and watch for many of the authors in the near future on book tv on c-span2. network lifepan this week as the house intelligence committee holds the first public impeachment hearings. the committee, led by chairman adam schiff, but here from three state department officials starting wednesday at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span3. on friday at 11:00
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a.m. eastern on c-span2, former u.s. ambassador's ukraine will appear before the committee. the head of the hearing will read witness testimony from the deposition. washington journal continues. host: leo shane is at our table this morning, deputy editor of the military times. we are talking about veterans issues. veterans can call (202) 748-8000 , all others should call (202) 748-8001. he sat down with the v.a. secretary recently. what is his agenda, what are his priorities? guest: it has been another tumultuous year for the v.a. keys of the of the trump presidency, looking to expand the community care programs. the last few months have been
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implement take that we have seen a handful of headlines that have been problematic for the v.a. there is a doctor in west virginia that might have killed 13 patients. a patient in atlanta passed away. some bad headlines. we want to sit down with the secretary to find out where he thinks the v.a. is. he said are still some words and andlems -- some warts problems with the v.a. but it is much better than two years ago. it is on a much better path toward being customer service friendly. the opinion on capitol hill is different, depending on who you're talking to. some folks have been excited, some folks are worried about the issues of privatization, just how much of v.a. is being pushed out. a massive agency, a lot of people don't realize how much of the federal budget they ask 2020, $200al
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billion. there is watching. it is one where we exceed the budget continue to increase. i asked the secretary if he expected to keep going up and he said yes, there are some responsibilities for us. host: where does the money go to? the nationd to it act, how much money was given for that, how is it supposed to act? what we seen is increased medical appointments, 3 million more medical appointments in fiscal 2019, more doctors, more patients coming in, a lot more expenses there. we have seen the number of disability claims go up and some issues with agent orange, more ptsd claims. these are all things where the money goes up, more veterans are
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engaging. we have seen a lot of programs in the v.a. like suicide prevention outreach and other outreach programs. all of this money is going in there. we effort from veterans service organizations that they could still use more. there is a lot of catching up the department used to do and if we are going to stand up for veterans and give them the resources and support they need and were promised, we need to add more money. the mission act is where the controversy is. if we are allowing more choice for veterans, is this going to skyrocket the budget? i asked the secretary this in the interview. is within, the money the parameters we expected. we have seen an increase in emergency room care but we expected that and that relieved some cost for the v.a., the v.a. is not where you would go for er care. there was a new york times article talking about the cost
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and how setting up this network of doctors that can work with v.a. has been more expensive than anticipated and it might cost tens of millions more to finalize it. the secretary said it was within parameters and he feels it is fine, but we see where it goes. host: what are lawmakers saying? guest: democrats were concerned and very worried about those costs and the issue of does this amount to prime citation? does this amount to privatization? i spoke to the senate veterans chairman who will retire at the end of the year. he said he is thrilled how it is been implemented. he feels everything they anticipated has worked out fine.
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proponents say this is as good as we could've asked for for a new program. host: what does the future look --e for veterans health care we have seen wars in afghanistan and iraq for decades -- as we continue to have a presence there? guest: the reality of the numbers is the number of veterans in america is decreasing, even with the new veterans coming out of the service. it is a numbers game. we will see the number of veterans in america shrink. that creates issues about how big the v.a. should be, where should they be building new hospitals. it doesn't make sense to have massive v.a. medical camps on the east coast. the v.a. is struggling with that. one thing the need to do in the next couple of years is to what i call a closing round for v.a. it is the same sort of idea. they decide which facilities are worth keeping open, which might
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need to be expanded and which would make sense if we cut and shut down, because there are better ways to do this. we have seen a push toward smaller clinics that may be a full hospital but provide outpatient services and some inpatient services. we have seen a community care push. dealing with the flu or common cold, too they have to go all the way to v.a. to deal with that? the flipside is if you have a veteran who sprained her ankle and goes in, i've been having trouble sleeping and i'm coughing a lot, the civilian doctor will say you hurt your ankle, i will fix that. the v.a. doctor might say i want to talk to you about ptsd just a check. it is a balancing act, it is the v.a. trying to figure out how to do this. they are revamping medical records electronically. how much will v.a. doctors be
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able to communicate with outside doctors? we will see. it is a transformative time for the v.a. if they do it right, if they do it wrong it could be disastrous. host: let's get to our viewers. we have divided the lines by veterans and all others. what are some issues you believe the government needs to address when it comes to our nation's veterans. ken, when did you serve? caller: i got out in 2005. host: go ahead. toler: i served from 1998 2005. i live in washington and there are a lot of veterans in my situation. we are looking for jobs. i don't think there is anything the government has done. they always say they have done stuff to help us get jobs but are still a lot of us like myself. i have been unemployed for going on three years and it is still difficult to find a job. today is veterans day and i'm
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still jobless. guest: the issue of veteran employment is a tricky one. the numbers are lower than the rest of the american population, that is the good news. areou are a veteran, you slightly more likely to find a job in your civilian peers. but if you can't find a job, it gets really tricky and problematic if you are having trouble explaining what your skills are and how they translate to the civilian world. we hear from a lot of folks, they will get their first job and within one year, they are looking for another one because it was not the perfect fit. we have seen a lot of government programs. there are folks on capitol hill, even with unemployment numbers being lower, there is a worry about, how do we make sure these folks are indigo transition? i have talked to a lot of companies about this. there are more companies setting up internal veterans communities
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and trying to look at not just the issue of how do we get them in the door but how do we keep them. how do we do this? be folks whoill can't make the transition, have trouble making the transition and that is where you get into the key v.a. services, for the folks who can't get it. are there unemployment benefits they can get? there are some and the trump administration who have looked at rolling veterans unemployment benefits back to save another things. if you don't have a job, health care service will be an issue, he needs a reliable v.a. or community care service to do that. it is one that even as the numbers get better, we see congress trying to keep an ion that. host: carlos in fort lauderdale, florida. caller: i am a first time caller . i have been dealing with cancer for a number of years.
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it has never let me down. if question i have not heard it was resolved or not, if i ,ant to go to an outside doctor it takes a lot of time to get there. by the time to get there, it is incomplete. i don't know if that is been taken care of. i wanted out whether he spoke to veterans and how they felt about the testimony? i felt he had a job to do. callstened to the phone and it was not his business to give his opinion publicly. he was not there to do that. there to do that. guest: on the impeachment question, we have heard from both sides. you will find the veterans
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community is just as divided as the rest of the country depending on where they are coming from with their politics. with the health care issue, the gentleman mentioned he has cancer but he enjoys his v.a. care. we hear that a lot from veterans. access is the main complaint with the v.a. system, not the actual treatment. for the most part they are happy with the doctors when they could get there. the wait times continue to be a problem at a point of frustration. i'm trying to remember the last issue he brought up. host: i think it was those two. detroit. caller: good morning. drafted in 1966 and i did two years. i did one year in the states and one overseas. myame home and they took army identification. i still had four more years with
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the service -- two years reserves and two standby. i was wondering, why would they take my id and i still had four years with the service? draftees have six years to do. guest: i'm not totally clear on what that might be and what those are. this goes back to the records issues and alter military records. be folks whoways find a problem work it into these issues. really, how you can judge the system is how they figure out when there are anomalies and when there are problems that come up. i think the previous caller asked about the issue of records and taking them outside. this gentleman obviously has a records problem. the v.a. has made efforts to digitize their existing records and they are moving to a new electronic medical system which is the same as the dod.
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this is potentially transformative for both departments. it will probably take another eight to 10 years. we are talking about $12 billion worth of work. at the end of this, if you go to a v.a. doctor, you can check your last five visits and see exactly where you have been. if you go to an outside doctor, they will be able to see. they will have a note in the file. you will be able to see more of that. i see you complained about having breathing problems, some sleeping problems, i will treat you for your broken ankle but i will send a note here v.a. dr. they might want to schedule another appointment. while to geta there and in some ways that put the cart before the horse because there always -- already pushing those folks into private care. how long can a keep track of those two separate lines of medical care. mary, annsylvania,
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veteran, would you serve? 1973 toi served in 1978. host: what were you doing? caller: the united states army reserve and i did everything, i kept records, payroll, things like that. e4.inished up as an my problem is i didn't go overseas to serve. it is not just my problem, we have a lot of army reserve people who live in this area and we have been trying to get id,rds for something like ike the man before you who talked about. understand, even though some of us did not go overseas, why we aren't considered just as important,
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because we did jobs here for guys overseas. host: leo shane. guest: the first thing i would say is absolutely, a veteran is a veteran. especially among women veterans, and issue you run into a lot. folks still consider themselves a veteran, i did not see combat, maybe i won't get the services because i don't deserve them. veteran,rve, you are a the country owes you a debt. it doesn't matter what you did. if you worked in the carpool, that is part of the larger mission. the issue of records is something the v.a. and dod struggled with. we still had the majority of records in v.a. on paper. if you want to see one doctor, you had to carry a big folder around. if you have a lot of medical issues, joint approve your military connected service, military connected disability,
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you need to carry several hundred pages of records to each appointment with you and hope the doctor has time to look through it. things get electronically now, it is going on, there has been a lot of success, it is getting better, but there are a lot of veterans from 30 years ago, 40 years ago but have to rely on paper records. a point of frustration and it is a matter of time and money to get it all digitized. host: kenneth in a story a come organ, you are a veteran, as well. oregon.th in astoria, say to i would like to my fellow vietnam veterans, welcome home. not had an easy go of it, like myself, and to the best of you.
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as far as your guest host, i have a couple of comments i would like to make, if that is all right. host: ok. 1979, i received my disability. istarted pretty soon after got out of the service. i did six years. going to our local va hospital for many, many years. up until the 1990's. ill fromi got too and aorange and diabetes whole range of medical problems. then.ad a program back
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that is where i can pick a private doctor in my area. i had him for 20 years. the best doctor i ever had in my entire life. he was also a vietnam veteran. he was a colonel and an evac over in vietnam so we had a cool connection. he did a lot of stuff that military doctors do. room in minor surgery his clinic. he did some minor surgery on me. he checked my red and white blood count. worked toyou think it be able to access a private doctor? --that the point must mark
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is that the point? caller: i am almost there. i won't take up too much mortar time. the program worked out so good for me. course, people retire, my doctor retired, left me without a doctor and i had to go searching for a doctor. clinic on thei north coast of oregon called the northcoast clinic. change was so horrible and i got so frustrated, probably said some things to the doctor that were not politically correct, i guess you could say, and she fired me. time, trump became
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president and i got on this community care, which is what they are using now. it goes through an insurance company and everything has to be preapproved, you can choose your own doctor, they assign you to a doctor. even if you don't like the doctor, you are stuck with them. my care, i would say 50% worse than it was when i was on the program. host: do you have a question for leo shane based on what you just said? iller: that is my comment and want to know if he could give me any feedback on why this is. host: we are going to leave it there. guest: it is one of those outside care programs from before. there were seven or eight different community care
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programs that veterans could use to get care from private-sector doctors instead of the v.a. part of the mission act was to consolidate all these things. some of them work fine, some veterans had complaints. a lot of them, the providers had complaints about how they were getting paid. part of the mission act was consolidating this and simplifying it. unfortunately, when you're getting rid of any program, there will be people who like it and folks who don't like it. it sounds like you got caught in the mix. his doctor retired, it was a shame he lost him, please don't yell at your new doctor. they are trying to help you. i found it very interesting in my coverage over the last 15 years or so, the amount veterans have tried to bring in the younger generations and try to make sure the mistakes of the
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past weren't repeated. that is a group that the younger generation is looking to and understands they weren't welcome home in the same way and there were a lot of issues. i am really glad he threw that welcome home in their and there are a lot of folks who are thinking of all the generations of veterans, were in the past, maybe they weren't. host: nancy in nebraska, welcome to the conversation. caller: thank you for taking my call. i would like to appreciate the veterans who are serving. i would also like to make a comment about your comment about a mission forward, your guest. a mission forward would be the impacts of these continuous wars on the whole population. universal health care, taking care of human beings within the context of our footprint on the globe would be a useful path forward.
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taking care of everybody. thank you. guest: some of that is state department, some of that is the government looking at the impact. one thing she mentioned in the previous color mentioning his agent orange exposure, we are 50 years away from vietnam and we are still dealing with disability claims from agent orange, still dealing with conditions related to that exposure. for the younger generation of , burn pits will be one of those issues. that was a common way to get rid of waste in afghanistan. huge andhe fires were churning out plumes of toxic smoke over an entire base. what you're hearing from lawmakers is they don't want to 50waiting another 30, 40, years before we start engaging those illnesses. host: what are the side effects?
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guest: the burn pits were so varied, some of them you are talking about burning office furniture, maybe there was a little varnish that could cause some asthma. other places, they were throwing batteries, giant industrial waste in there. we have seen all kinds of rare cancers and toxic exposures. i know you will have tara copp on, but is a preview that is one of the v.a. string to grapple with now. what are the next 10, 20 years going to be? , arewill they recognize there commonalities? are there things we can start addressing immediately? host: i want to point our viewers to usa today's opinion page. newspaper's view is it begs for fresh approaches.
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a doctor who is the director of the suicide prevention task force for veterans affairs said they are committed to doing better. where do things stand with military suicide? guest: it is a frustrating moment because we have seen for the last five years a concerted effort not just from the v.a. and dod but a lot of parts of government to try to lower the number of veteran suicides and we are not seeing results. the number has changed a little bit over the years, your viewers might have heard 22 a day, that was an initial estimate, it got moved to 20 a day. it was not dropped, it was correcting past numbers. now the v.a. is using 17 a day, but that is veterans, separating out active duty. the number is still about 20 a day. whatever number you are hearing,
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there is not been real progress on the issue. you mentioned the task force, this is the president's high level look at government coming together, trying to look at ways to improve the suicide prevention program. the hope is they will come up with brand-new ideas, approaches that we have not done. the biggest challenge for v.a. has been outreach. 20 a day, a little bit more than 60% of those are folks with no regular contact with v.a. someone is not committing suicide just because of something related to their military service. but, there are special resources for folks. there is a veterans suicide hotline. emergency mental health care. the message from v.a. and folks on the hill, veterans service organizations is reach out. it doesn't matter if you have reached up before, there are
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services here, we want to help. the problem is across all spectrums. numbers among younger veterans are increasing. older veterans make up the majority of veterans in the country, so that is the majority of suicides. problem and something everyone is looking for the solution. everyone wants to cut down these tragedies. host: south carolina. when and where did you serve? and i: i am a vietnam vet to 1984.om 1971 i want to say one thing. i want to thank president obama, i sent a letter to him, it took me a long time to get my disability, 2013.
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outside, i had no problem. i had 18 eyes surgeries. that was an outside doctor. they shut down and now we have a different one. the v.a. took care of all of that. i appreciate what they did. it was from agent orange. that has not been determined. guest: still a lot of agent orange connected illnesses. folks in the veterans community say they have seen from my fellow veterans die from this. i know it is from toxic exposure. specifichas stuck to a , we need science to back it up, we need peer-reviewed journals to make a ruling on these things. agent orange continues to be a frustrating legacy for the military and for the vietnam
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war. 18 surgeries is a lot of surgeries, god bless him for getting through all of that. hopefully we can move that quicker. he mentioned his disability claims, too. around when his claim got approved, that was the peak of the backlog of disability claims. 650,000- we were up to that took more than four months to complete. 70,000,w down to around but still a point of frustration for v.a. i saw some presidential candidates jumping back on that now, saying this will be our focus to get this closer to zero. when veterans come in, we should be able to get these claims through on a timely basis. host: i was going to ask you what the 2020 candidates are saying? saying hegieg is
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wants to name the first female v.a. secretary. guest: he came out with a plan today. i got to look at some of it. out with warren came one a few days ago. she said she wants to cut veteran suicide in half. zero is the goal we have, but she wants that number of 17 to be cut in half. it is interesting because i don't know how much v.a. issues swing voters. there is dissatisfaction that the v.a. is not better but we get to the nitty-gritty, a lot of folks outside the veterans community don't understand the challenges and needs. weill give a little preview, have been talking to the candidates and in the next few days, i hope to have a lot of their military and veterans issues published. host: people should go to militarytimes.com.
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guest: we will have that up there. mayor pete is poking on a level of personal experience. there are only a few veterans in gabbard is- tulsi still in the field. it will be interesting to see what he focuses on as opposed to bernie sanders. he is one who talked about the issue of privatization for a while. we have a debate coming up the 20th of this month. i am hoping we will get a lot more veterans issues on that. texas, anis in a veteran, good morning. thank you for your service. caller: thank you. to 1999.from 1978 happy veterans day to everyone.
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i have a little story and two questions. i retired in 1989 and thought the v.a. was for people missing limbs. problems and my friends said go to the v.a. 70%ays later, i was disabled and 100% unemployable. my two questions i have is i am now old enough where i collect medicare. i have tricare for life and i used to v.a. am i allowed to do that? is, everyquestion year during political season, they are talking about people who get a v.a. check and a military retirement check. they are calling that double dipping and they don't think you are supposed to get both of those. can you please comment on that? i think i deserve my retirement and if i am disabled, i think i deserve my disability check.
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guest: on the issue of double dipping, we see this with military benefits and veterans benefits. there are people who say if you are getting one stipend, you should not be pulling from overkill, as well. the veterans service groups had been very adamant in their fight. isy said military retirement something you earned, something you're collecting. that is a separate thing from disability checks. we are seeing a fight right now from a lot of military widows and widowers on offset problems without certain disability and survivor benefits claims are paid out. those are taken away. there are certain ones, as they look at the total, they will cut one benefit in half to make sure it does not go over a certain amount. the point of all that is it is a constant battle from veterans group to say, this is not someone taking advantage of the system, this has been earned.
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there is a big issue that came up in the past about the unemployability benefits that this gentleman talked about. once you are over 65, should you be able to receive that? you wouldn't necessarily be in the workforce anymore. it could save several billion dollars. veterans groups say this is money these folks rely on and they need. question, am i allowed to do this? a lot of it depends on your situation. make use of those veterans service organizations. folks have experts, people have experts, people who know a lot more than i do and have been doing this longer than i have that can tell you, and walk you through the process. fellow veterans who want you to get what you deserve.
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if you don't qualify, they can talk to about other benefits or programs you can qualify for. if you are not a member of one of those groups, it is worth looking into. host: before we let you go, the president of turkey is visiting washington this week. what are the military issues on the table between the u.s. and turkey right now? obviously syria is at the top of the list, what you expect these two leaders to be talking about? guest: we have u.s. military bases in turkey. as we are looking at the serious situation and is trump is talking about pulling troops out of the middle east, what does that mean? it is tough to say what those conversations will be. i know what the dod would like those conversations to be, but what the president's priorities are haven't always lined up with what the dod is talking about. a lot of folks will be trained
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to figure out what does this mean. those existing u.s. bases and what is the impact, that will be a key issue. what is the situation with the kurdish forces? we will see how that plays out. and plenty of regional security issues in iran and iraq, they are always at the top of the list. the president has said he wants u.s. forces out. whether or not that means u.s. forces are out of the middle east is a whole another thing, but i would expect the conversation about how does turkey take a larger role in policing the region to be at the top of trump's agenda. host: how does that complicate our relationship with turkey once it was said they have purchased russian air defense systems? of an advantage does that give russia encountering our technology? the folks up on the hill have been furious about this and have
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been trying to put certain restrictions and certain limits on how much they can involve turkey. they were a key partner in the f-35 production issues. we will see if there is a compromise that could be met. likesl see if the dod whatever compromise the president comes up with. host: you can follow reporting on militarytimes.com. we will take a break and then return to focusing on veterans issues. we will talk to reporter tara copp, talking about her investigative piece about the increase in cancer rates among veterans. later on, stew magnuson discusses the past and future of u.s. defense. ♪
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10:30, veterans talk about complexities of war. on veterans day, watch c-span on tv, online or listen is in the free c-span radio app. >> washington journal continues. host: at our table this morning to talk about military issues is tara copp, the national military and veterans reporter with mcclatchy newspapers. you have an investigative piece, finding an increase in cancer rates among veterans. what type of data did you look at, what period, how did you discover this rise? guest: thank you for having me on. i have been hearing from veterans about the number of cancer clusters they have experienced, people they have served with, family members. we look at the data behind those personal stories to see if what they were experiencing personally was reflected in the
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data. through a freedom of information request, we looked at every cancer billing through the v.a. system over a stretch of time and we found increases. 23%, liverncer is up cancers is up 96%. once we have this data, we went back to the veterans communities and asked, did you think happened? host: what happened? guest: a lot of these veterans think it is toxic exposure. talkedvious a guest about the burn pits. iraq and across afghanistan, things were burned from human waste to ammunition and soldiers breathe this in day and night. it could be water contamination on bases.
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it could be radiation in cockpits, pilots have come forward and thought the radar systems they have been exposed to over thousands of hours of flying could be linked to the cancer they see in their community. it is a wide spectrum of things you could be exposed to, which is why these veteran groups have come together with the overall issue of toxic exposure. host: where these veteran serve? guest: everywhere. the pilots are above you, they were all over iraq and afghanistan. it is not just this generation, this is just the latest generation. illnesses have come to bear 10 to 15 years after they serve. leo was talking about vietnam veterans and the challenges they have with agent orange. this is this generation's issue. host: we did receive a response from the veterans affairs office
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and they say we want to let you know the premise of her story, number of cancer treatments have increased, the number of cancer instances have increased and that is not true. it is not a reliable measure of the incident rates. during the. of time her story sites, better treatments became available. more patients were treated and for longer periods of time even though overall cancer incidents drop. cancer rates go up with age. if the median age went up a few years, that could have an impact on cancer rates. guest: we were careful with the data. when we did a request, we asked for unique patients. a veteran who has urinary cancer, they might go in five times a year to be treated. because of the way we requested the data, unique datatype for their social security number, it was only counted once. it's not like because there are
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additional treatments out there the numbers rose. patients whoique went for treatment every year. we worked with the v.a. for months at to get at the heart of the story and the message we chose, which not only had incidents, new diagnosis of cancer and returning patients, but the way the v.a. data provided to us, which is just new instances of cancer, new diagnosis, it can undercount. the answer is in the middle. but it is enough of a red flag the v.a. needs to pay attention. host: we are talking about the rise in cancer rates according to the investigative reporting done by tara copp, the national military and veterans reporter with mcclatchy newspapers. lines, divided the veterans call (202) 748-8000, all others can call (202) 748-8001.
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a little more about these numbers. veterans cancer rates decreases between 2000 and 2018. he saw a decrease in brain cancer, 22% for testicular cancer and 13% for respiratory cancer. what does this tell you? guest: a lot more needs to be done to look into these numbers. when they were refuting our story even before i came on and the story was published, they gave us their own internal data set and it shows brain cancer is on the rise. there is something in between. there is an increase in brain cancer or there is not, but it needs to be looked at more closely. overall, what we are seeing is the sheer number of men and women who have served in the military over the last two decades of war in iraq and 187,000tan, you have veterans who said he have been exposed to burn pits and have
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respiratory illnesses due to that. you have a whole generation of pilots who have flown nonstop for 25 years and have different radars and jamming systems that they suspect might be tied to their own cancers. it is a call to action and look deeper and see if there is a connection. host: going along with the v.a.'s response and your numbers and reporting, the increase in treatments, according to the v.a., a 41% increase a 41% increase in treatment for blood cancer, 70% for urinary 100 51%brain cancers, for liver and pancreatic cancers. this liver and pancreatic cancer, is there something they are pointing to is the reason that they are seeing this rise? for those cancers, specifically. guest: any sort of toxic exposure can generate a mutation
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that leads to a cancer and a particular individual. that is why causality is so hard to determine. might causeposure cancer in them but not the person who served next to them. it is a call to action to do more studies to make sure the service members start to get the help they need and get it covered by the v.a. just a circle back to the v.a.'s pushback, how is the v.a. so .ertain it knows its numbers the vast majority of veterans don't get their health care from the v.a. what we have heard from servicemember after servicemember's this is the tip of the iceberg and there is a lot more cancer out there. host: we will go to a veteran in ohio. work -- rick, start over. caller: 1970. i just turned 15.5, my dad had
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me inducted. by the time i was 16, i was in the military. host: ok. thoughts onre your this investigative reporting? caller: what i want to say to you has nothing to do with cancer, it has to do with me being raped when i was in the military as a child. the v.a. wants to pay for my psychological counseling but they don't want to admit that i was right. i have an honorable discharge. they discharged me under minority terms because they did not want to admit back then somebody raped during basic training in a latrine in the middle of the night. i want to know why they won't admit to me being raped but they will pay for my psychological counseling for being raped. experiencedrick has
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is what a lot of veterans experience in terms of their claims. i am sorry for what you have gone for. what you need to do is go to vet center and get the advocacy you need to get your claim fully recognized. veteran.inois, a good morning. caller: good morning and thank you for this program. i served from 1966 to 1968, i am a vietnam veteran. i had skin cancer. the first one was a blood cancer. it was a curable cancer. the second cancer ahead, i had a sore throat and i went to my becauseinic, they said i had sinus infections, the sore throat was related to the
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infection. they sent me to an ear, nose and throat doctor. he said we can't help you here. they sent me to a hospital in st. louis. they scoped me and said my air passage was the side of a pencil. i went through a series of biopsies. some sortht -- it was of tongue cancer. surgeon who to a talked about cutting out part of my tongue. biopsies, before the surgery, the doctor want to do another biopsy. to make a long story short, i was treated very well by the v.a., i love my v.a. doctors. my sonresting point was had a foreign exchange student
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from vietnam and i asked him about his grandparents. one of them, who lives in saigon is still alive but the other one died and he does not know anything about how he died. i am curious about the agent orange cancers, if they are doing any studies about vietnam? guest: it sounds like your experience at the v.a. is what i inferred from a lot of different veterans in the last few weeks since i published, that is a high rate of misdiagnosis is. there have been a number of emails and phone calls, heartbreaking calls, about their child or spouse who went into the v.a. health care system and they were told through the initial screening process it was a cold or a sore throat and it turned out to be much worse, but it was not cot until it was late stage. i got a heartbreaking email from a reader saying by the time
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their particular cancer was caught, brain cancer, it was too late. we asked the v.a. secretary about this friday at the white house and again at a separate event and he said the v.a. right now struggles like the u.s. medical committee at large, where they don't have enough cancer specialists. right now, you have a whole generation of service members who might be going to the v.a. for the first time because they have symptoms, but the symptoms might not be correctly diagnosed because of some of the lack of expertise that the v.a. is struggling with. burn pitsdid these come about? how was it disclosed and been to the united states realize there were health ramifications about this policy? wayt: the burn pits were a to get rid of all of the materials that u.s. forces brought with them and all of the contractors. at the height of the war, there
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were more than 160,000 forces in iraq and the contractor can't was bigger than that. every single one of those people was generating trash, human waste, ammunition, it all just went into a burn pit because there was no other way to get rid of it. you would smell the smoke all over the place, you could see the fires. we have been contacted by many service members with pictures of war they serve, where there is just smoke and air, there is a haze. they go to bed at night breathing and the stuff, they wake up breathing in the stuff. at some point it triggered whenever they are experiencing. the respiratory illnesses, 187,000 service members. host: where does the recognition stand? officiale v.a.'s statement says more work needs to be done.
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they need to be able to scientifically connect the exposure -- the burn pit exposure to the onus is service members are now facing. there are members of congress single won't wait that long this time. based on the agent orange experience, they are taking action legislatively and there are veterans groups coming together and comedian jon stewart to say these guys need help now, they can't wait 30 years for the v.a. to recognize these illnesses. carolina, a veteran, good morning. caller: i served for 24 years from 1977 to 2002. if a person who works at the v.a. for five years, i appreciate the person who is speaking who did a lot of investigative work about the v.a. serious today still has , serious problems.
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supervisors toom employees, to clinics that are not well looked at. i worked at two clinics in north carolina and spent five years. the last clinic i worked at, it took me eight months to go to a doctor's panel to find hundreds of v.a. patients who died, transferred and are still under a doctor's panel that were cleaned up. i feel for the veterans. i don'ty fortunate, have a service-connected disability, i don't have to use the v.a., i am blessed to have my own loo blue shield. own blue cross blue shield. a lot of times, i tell a veteran you have to be proactive in your care, you have to get your
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health record. i have my health record, all those years i was in the military. you have to be able to use my healthy vet as a tool to make your own appointment and scheduling of drugs. andt of these cancer issues misdiagnosis, that needs to be on the forefront because i have known several veterans who have gotten misdiagnosed over their care and they are dying from the problems way after they got hit with their disease. it is a shame. those veterans deserve the best care. 2014, president barack obama is the one who signed the veterans choice program. made it stronger and weeded out a lot of issues. i remember the appointment scandal in phoenix where they
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tried to fix the appointments for the veterans. now you can get an appointment well within 30 days with your primary care provider. guest: a lot of issues there. the v.a. is a we have good experiences with v.a. doctors and nurses. overall, this is going to take a wider approach to get the care needed for these veterans. you've seen one piece of legislation dropped last week to look at cockpit radiation specifically and if it is tied to prostate cancer among pilots.
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you will see this push in the next several months, how they signed on with jon stewart to get that issue pushed into the forefront. it's not going away. the tragedy assistance program for survivors, it's a large organization that has seen its new members because of killed in action. they would come and get support. their number one driver now for new members, for new windows or widowers is lost due to illness or cancer. host: rudolph is in maine. good morning. where did you serve? in vietnam andd desert storm. i am a disabled veteran. has a book of benefits that is four inches thick.
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issued -- i have one right in front of me, federal benefit program for veterans and survivors. it is only 1/8 of an inch thick. in the past 30 years, i have applied for every single benefit that is inside that book. bound -- downed by every single one of them. they're not interesting helping myself or all the other veterans. have allthat they these benefits in our worthless. care, in my health area, which is a rural area, we don't have enough civilian doctors to take care of the veterans in this area. needs to increase the amount of doctors in rural areas
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for veterans. host: let's take that point or it -- point. guest: access has been an issue for decades. and populations for you have a high number of veterans, there wasn't easy access to v.a. clinics and they would have to find rides. that is one of the many issues. provider inmedical the world, a population is aging and been exposed to combat. they have a lot of serious medical issues. women tohese men and war, we said we would take care of them on the backend. there is an enduring process. we want to make sure that process -- promises kept. host: good morning to you. caller: i want to salute c-span. i am a military police veteran.
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i served in the national guard until 1994. i had 15 years of good service. why dad was an air force veteran in the korean war. i wanted to bring up the issue we have in our alexandria v.a. i have a friend of mine who is a veteran. was murdered at the doctorria v.a. and his has had nine deaths over there. nobody will investigate that. i am hoping and praying that we can contact you. i salute c-span for having this on for our veterans. we need help out there. host: is there a way to contact you? please email us. we want the stories.
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we are getting more and more of them. copp@mcclatchy.dc host: good morning to you. force medics an air under the reagan administration. unfortunately, i did not think i was incurring much physical strain. i ended up with a bad back. i could hardly get out of bed. they put me on 10%, which meant nothing. i tried to stay out of taking the pills by taking chiropractors and other methods. anxiety andefer
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depression. the doctor refused to refer me at the time. years, ilast several got treatment. my disability has been adjusted. the problem with this history of veterans in terms of being shortchanged, the revolutionary took congress hostage. they were sentenced to death. they sentenced revolutionary war veterans who won the freedom for our country to death. congress commuted the sentences because they loved their
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veterans. veteransworld war i were screwed out of their benefits and they were protesting on the mall. macarthur rolled tanks and teargas on them. congress sneaks out the back door. , it takes another 20 years. now your last guest mentioned in passing the trump looked at having our disability expire. unfortunately, 2% of the population are veterans. people love to talk about it. when i served after vietnam, no one bought my lunch or shook my hand. now they do. they look at you as an expense. i was denied a colonoscopy. now that i am 60, they might go ahead and give me that
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diagnostic treatment. you are anout expense. caller: i'm going to take it back to the cancer's a moment. it does relate to your comment. several of the aviators i have talked to who want to v.a. to look at these raw state cancers more closely, they need to start screening active-duty members younger. cancer intch prostate the early stage. it's more expensive -- less expensive than catching it in the later stage. there is a population that is more vulnerable, make sure they are getting the care they need. a veteran is calling. welcome to the conversation. caller: thank you. happy veterans day. saying, every time she goes to the doctor and there
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is not something wrong, i have a phd in me. feels and to body get medical help. , that wasnt 20 years between active-duty and reserves. i also return -- retired from the army. three years after she retired, she had breast cancer and passed away. her daughter just retired from the air force. she is a 13 year breast cancer survivor. here's the thing. i've been a commander multiple times. it's all about readiness. onlth agencies are focused
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kansas soldier do the job. -- can this soldier do the job. the people are going to put you right back to work. i was in a military exercise in europe. me?know what they told we would put you on quarters. we need a transition core. all that money is going to the v.a., it needs to be put into the defense help agency. that needs to be part of a plan to say come into the service, and you transition out, you go into this transition core. your records be consolidated. who are in that 1%,
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77 -- 17% are retired. about it's not only better management. if you're going to send men and women to war, be aware of the dangers you are putting them into. everyone expects war to be dangerous. they don't expect burning then, ion the debris was talking to a mother, he was a humvee gunner in iraq. iraqs matter-of-fact from in 2008 with brain cancer. he died. this is unacceptable. you need to know what you are sending your men and women into and what they are being put at risk for. the military will do with the nation needs. you also should know the risk you are facing and how to better
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protect yourself. jammers forof the the radars in the cockpit have better protection for the men and women operating them? reportingcan find her at mcclatchy. thank you very much for the conversation. we are going to continue talking about veterans issues. ,e will talk to stew magnuson he will discuss the past and future of u.s. defense. we will be right back. >> watch the c-span network this week as the intelligence committee holds the first public impeachment hearings.
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they will hear from three state department official starting wednesday. the diplomat in ukraine, william taylor and george kent will testify. former u.s. ambassador ukraine reify which will appear. -- you can find the transcripts at c-span.org. communicators -- >> we're at the beginning of building a smart city. we were fortunate to convert are owed -- old telephone infrastructure into wi-fi kiosks. they are across the city of new york. that provides a means of communicating that sends out a
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predicate for what can be done with sensor technology, how we can regulate our lighting systems. congresswoman tonight at 8:00 eastern on the communicators on c-span2. >> today on c-span, but coverage of the wreath at the tomb of the unknowns. news00, the nbc broadcasting on the fall of the berlin wall. complexities about of war on veterans day. >> washington journal continues. on veterans day with
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this live shot of arlington national cemetery, looking at the tomb of the unknown shoulder where the vice president here on c-span will lay a wreath. the ceremony takes place. the president will be in new york or a parade. we will have coverage of that. here at the table is stew magnuson, the editor of national defense magazine. ,et's talk about this day november 11. when did we began to mark this day in the history? >> began his armistice day. after world war i and shortly after world war i, the association began. basically, to help prepare for whatever comes next, there was a
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lot of feeling that the nation wasn't prepared for this big conflict. a lot of our weapons were french maid and so on. -- made and so on. the industry was prepared for what comes next. that would be world war ii. nationalt is the defense industrial association? guest: it's mostly corporate members, 57,000 individual members. we have chapters all over the nation. it's all about preparedness. host: in what way? guest: for whatever comes next. the mission has not changed. the association wants to make when we send our young men and women off to war that they have the very best equipment possible. host: talk about the history of
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the luke perry equipment from the beginning to over the years -- military equipment from the beginning to over the years. guest: that's a good question. interesting is the magazine came along in july, 1920. it's not quite 100 years old. i was going through the back issues. was ignoring them, they were sitting in my office. i started going through them this summer, to prepare for this big issue. editor,gazine issue -- is a lot.e i'll think anyone could've imagined what would come along, even by world war ii and so on. they just started using aircraft.
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tanks had just been used a little bit in world war i. , nothingke helicopters like that. fast forward and look what happened in the last 10 years. job, thearted this smartphone wasn't really in the lingo. it is rapidly changing. the future ofs military defense equipment look like? guest: that's the interesting part. past, excerpts from the notable people who contributed to the magazine. it's very much a forward-looking magazine. we don't write a lot of history like other association magazines. i asked 10 experts what you think the next 50 or 100 years of warfare will look like you -- like?
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i got a lot of different answers. there were some common things, robotics and automation, these kinds of things. our men andwer of women will be on the front lines. robots will be out there upfront. host: what did you learn about artificial intelligence? guest: that's a very hot topic now. if you go to the industry conferences, there will be a panel on artificial intelligence. they are just now learning about ways to apply it. there is some kind of far out ideas about that. looking aty will be logistics, which doesn't really sound that exciting. it has real attentional to save taxpayers a lot of money. we are looking at past and future u.s. defense issues.
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or retiredare active from the military, your line is (202) 748-8000. .ll others, (202) 784-8001 will budgets be able to keep up with future technology? ofst: there are a lot demands and competition among the services. there are a lot of modernization priorities. the navy is trying to go forward with new ships. they need to replace some bombers. everyone knows this is one of the most expensive weapons programs ever. they all have a laundry list of things you need. a lot of these things need to be replaced are coming up in the next 10 years. something's not to give.
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it will be a crunch for sure. continuingre resolutions by congress impacting this future budget crunch in the military? guest: it's a big problem today. maybe some people don't know, the military can't start a new program under a cr. if they want to start developing a new program that is in limbo, that's when -- one problem. a lot these to be done in the next 10 years. that means you have to keep flying those older aircraft, driving older the a kohl's longer. that gets more and more expensive. some of them aren't available. host: what responsibility do corporations hold in making sure there is not waste and fraud in
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building of military equipment? guest: that's always been a problem. there are rules and regulations. the kind of problem is everyone wants to speed up development of these programs. a basic vehicle takes 7-8 years. everyone wants to speed up. you have the federal acquisition rate, that is a very onerous , there are alation lot of hoops to jump through. people want to get this stuff out there quicker. the military can't keep up. cut out some of these regulations.
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what if you cut it out too much and you end up with something that's not working the way you want? it's a very delicate balance. good morning in wisconsin. caller: i'm also a disabled veterans. i would like to correct your guests about when veterans day started. it wasn't veterans day when it started. it was armistice day. in 1934.was changed the purpose is totally different from what it was when it was armistice day. now, it's a day to get people to continue supporting militarism. contractors,to the he spoke about the f-35, which cost $44,000 to operate.
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it has a lifespan of eight years. on money that is spent it's the offense department because we have engaged in so many wars of choice, the military as a whole has lost its purpose. that's the problem we have with taking care of veterans because money goes on the other end to prepare them for readiness to go a need forre is not them to go. the o's we took was to protect oathconstitution -- both -- bo h we took was to protect the constitution. guest: it has a lot of detractors, it has a lot of fans.
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out on whether it's going to do everything it says it's going to do. i know, foreign countries are lining up to buy it. most of this don't. they find a lot of value in this aircraft and they are coming up with the money to pay for it. goes, as where the money the constitution says we must provide for the common defense. money, whate that goes to veterans affairs, what goes to preparedness and whatever, that's a debate that's been going on forever and will continue. host: joe is in north carolina. caller: i'm a veteran. i served in two branches of the
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service for 30 years. i served in combat. there, i goteaker a chance to study at the naval in thegiment school statistical analysis division. i took the weapons of mass description -- destruction course the coast guard offers. i think back to the first gulf war when the norwegians had a machine that we did not have that would pick up chemical traces. i do know he remembers that far back. nevertheless, i think the biggest issue is going to be the deterrence of small elements delivered by small drones. host: let's take that. guest: the drone threat is real.
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it's a big concern of the military. we are not the only ones with them. nations now 150 have drones. terrorist groups of gotten a hold of them, they have used them to some effect. it's a growing part of the industry, countering rounds. it is a big concern. caller: good morning. this is a very interesting show. thank you for c-span. it's also very scary. i got hooked on the history channel about nine years ago, watching world war ii. it scares me to death to watch that. i cannot get away from the tv once i turn that on. the things our government did to , puttingervice people
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our own people in harm's way, you've got to think about the burns. we have no idea what the other people were doing to their own people, just like us. there is all kinds of things that scare me. if you watch the history of world war ii, it scares me to death the seat knowing what the foreigners of done, but what our own government has done to her own people. have a good day. guest: i don't know if i have any comment on that other than it's real. there are a lot of speeches. it's hard to know what they are up to. host: jan is retired in virginia. battlefield on the
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of quiet yorktown, virginia. i would like to say happy veterans day to everyone. i served during vietnam. i was in desert storm. is ii would like to say much more future limited military. helpingthat money into services, helping on the ground, intervening, mental health services. that would be around the world. in countries that need support and assistance. in the future with more progressives coming in and less we will see more inclusive care for people on the ground and less of the military might. thank you so much. host: do you agree? guest: a lot of our contractors are involved in battlefield medicine. a lot of them are academic.
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we have members in academia. ptsd issues,uing using advanced technology such help veterans to get over these issues. contractors are making weapons. they are doing a lot of different things. they are helping out a lot of different people. there will be spillover with the technology that benefits everyone. the next call is in florida. good morning. you are on the air. caller: the reason i was calling, i don't understand why -- i was exposed to
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agent orange. denyunderstand how they claims for being exposed to agent orange. i just understand how the v.a. can turn some veterans conversation for agent orange and not others. there was more agent orange in panama then vietnam. probablythink that was better for the last segment to answer. i will pass on that. thank you for your service, sir. host: one thing you write about is the augmented reality. can you explain how the military plans to use that. guest: we use it in the
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magazine, which is really exciting. if you have the magazine or want the magazine, you can download an app and watch videos inside the magazine. augmenteditary side, reality, virtual reality, it's very important in training. they can do a lot of different things. they can help improve the training. they can help the government cut costs. you might have training, army training. i just got back from watching the marine corps train. you might have the actual live training, soldiers, marines, airmen, seamen training. you might have somebody back at headquarters saying there is an
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enemy force coming your way. that's the constructive part of it. they might in the future have goggles on, they can see something that's not really there and have to fire on it. all of this is coming. it's all very exciting. host: william is in ohio. good morning. caller: how are you doing today? i've got to tell you straight up, we are absolutely ready. coren harness the earth's to electro magnetic calls human beings. atomic weapons are the things of the past. it takes three minutes for a nuclear weapon to go from the north pole to washington to see. -- washington dc. host: if people are interested
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in learning more, what do you recommend people reading from the magazine? guest: the anniversary issue is not our typical issue. our typical issue looks at a lot of upcoming programs. it's available online for free. we don't have a pay wall to get on the magazine. back ofe experts in the the magazine that talk about the few decades of war. look at the last 100 years, someone took a swing at it and came out with some ideas. host: what do your experts tell you about the future threats to the military? guest: right now, the military is concerned with competitors
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moving away from the counterterrorism fight. that will always be there. they might use proxies in a similar manner. friday, i was out in california watching the marine corps train in a mock city the size of downtown san diego. there were going against each other. they both had armored vehicles and care support, as if they were going against an army. they were pivoting toward this fight. that's the most immediate threat. is thetew magnuson editor of the national defense magazine. thank you for the conversation. we're going to take a quick rate. question, back to our
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commenthe whistleblower in public hearings. we will get your thoughts in just a moment. >> watch the c-span networks this week as the intelligence committee holds the first public impeachment hearings. the committee will hear from three state department officials starting wednesday at 10:00 eastern. the top u.s. diplomat in ukraine william taylor and george can't will testify. former u.s. ambassador to ukraine will appear before the committee. ahead of the hearings, read witness testimony from the depositions, find the transcript at www.c-span.org.
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tonight on the communicators, -- >> we are building our smart city. we were fortunate early on to convert our old telephone booths infrastructure into wi-fi kiosks. they are located across the city of new york. providing a means of sends outing that what can be done with technology, how we can regulate our lighting system, there is so much that can be done from that platform alone. on theght at 8:00 communicators on c-span2. >> washington journal continues. host: should the whistleblower testify? that's the debate that washington is having. the top republican on the
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intelligence committee sent a request to the chairman, requesting that the whistleblower testify in these public hearings that are coming up this week. letter, he writes this: adam schiff responded to this with his own letter, saying the whistleblower would not testify. they would not facilitate
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intimidating or retaliating against the whistleblower who raised the initial alarm. the inquiry has gathered a body of evidence. what do you think? steve in california, good morning. caller: good morning. i think it's time for everybody to start thinking for themselves. host: amy in florida. caller: i think you should testify. he doesn't even qualify for the standard under previous administrations. for them to consider this whistleblower is a joke.
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ay can't you ever have representative for veterans? host: thanks for the suggestion. melissa, you think the whistleblower should testify? caller: my thanks to all of the veterans out there. yes, i do think the whistleblower should testify. there is nothing to protect their anonymity. his name has been out there for two weeks. this is all true. he should testify under a. under of. this is all a big sham and a hoax. over the daily beast weekend had an article about the whistleblower.
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an article about one who is identified as the whistleblower and wrongfully so. if you think you know who the whistleblower is, you should read this article. beenmer obama staffer has erroneously accused of blowing the whistle on the ukraine affair. tom is in ohio. caller: thank you for taking my call. i'm calling because this goes back -- can you hear me? let's go back to the original whistleblower claim. theyody changed the rule had to have firsthand knowledge. it happened sometime this spring. host: they have said they have never change that rule. caller: this is supposed to be firsthand knowledge. what i am trying to say is adam
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schiff, i consider him a , he has treasonous liar usurped his own authority. he is calling himself a special prosecutor. no one up pointed him to the job. what they are doing is setting up a new process. inuld any democrat when in in 2020, we are going to impeach him. if it's that easy to impeach a president, we will do it. they will regret ever doing this. host: the house intelligence committee will be hearing from two top diplomats involved in this policy. that will be there testimony on wednesday at 10:00 eastern. we will have coverage on
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c-span3. if you download the c-span radio app, you can listen to testimony there. former u.s. ambassador is going to be giving her thoughts at and0 on c-span2 www.c-span.org. you can find our coverage of everything related to the impeachment. john inar from virginia. what do you think? caller: thanks for taking my call. i just can't figure out people who call in and defend the president. the problem here is you asked did he mentionhy
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joe biden and his son? ok foru ask people is it the president to ask a favor, to investigate someone running for president? three people say the same thing. i'm an american before i am a democrat or republican. , the nexteblower whistleblower will not say anything when the government is doing something wrong to us. they will be scared for their lives. people need to wake up. we are americans. we need some facts. that's all we ask. host: politico reports that democrats have unveiled three questions to guide the public impeachment hearings. did the president request investigations to benefit the
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precedents personal political interests, including his rival and a potential opponent in the election? did the president seek to use the power of the office to apply pressure on the head of state and government of ukraine to advance the president's personal interest? linda in pennsylvania, should the whistleblower testify? caller: yes. he should. i don't even think there is a whistleblower. i think it's that shift guy.
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the president loves this country. all americans should stand up against all of this stuff that's going on. ice,ng rid of the cops and who are they going to call when they get raped. that's crazy. we have laws. yes, he should. listen toand others what lindsey graham had to say on the sunday morning show. this is his argument area >> -- argument. >> i think it's important to know what happened regarding the filing -- firing of the prosecutor. it's impossible to bring this case forward without us knowing
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who the whistleblower is and having the chance to cross examine them. if they don't call the whistleblower in the house, this thing is dead on arrival in the senate. host: that was his argument yesterday. sunday, ax news moderate from texas who is retiring. this is what he had to say about the whistleblower. >> i think we should be protecting the identity of the whistleblower. how we treat this whistleblower will impact others in the future. having this law on the books, it's an important check and balance. see happend like to to answerm schiff questions about what was his engagement with the whistleblower before the information was transmitted to
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congress. he misled the public earlier on what he knew about the whistleblower. if you want to protect the identity, it's important to answer questions about his interactions. host: terri is in st. louis. what do you think? should the whistleblower testify? caller: no. we should protect the whistleblower. trump did not testify when he was called. they are keeping people from testifying as it is right now. there is a cover up somewhere. thank you. host: kathy is in virginia. caller: i believe the whistleblower should be protected according to the law on the books.
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i also believe the subpoenas that go out for people who are choosing not to testify, if there are laws to bring them to the forefront, we should be enforcing those as well if they have been subpoenaed. it's one thing to love your country and your president, we need the transparency out there. to comerump wants forward with everything and be transparent, taxes, all of those things, if we have a law that protects that whistleblower, i want that person protected. the other people republicans would like to testify. in addition to hunter biden and , the nationalwer security council aid that
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, nelly or kurt volker ,, devon archer christie is in california. caller: good morning. host: good morning to you. caller: i think the whistleblower should be protected. it's the law. pulls aause somebody fire alarm, you don't get that person in trouble.
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president trump needs to be held accountable. the memo of the transcript, it's clear that he was trying to extort the ukrainian president. i'm surprised at how people are committed to trump and not the country that they just overlook everything. all of these ambassadors that gonetestified and have before the congress to testify, they are not just throwing out hogwash. they are throwing out facts. host: oakland gardens, new york. what do you think? caller: i think he should not testify because of what was already said by the woman called in from virginia and the last person from california. there is a lot of it protects that person. it's a law. remember the law that we used to
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follow? now, it seems like they don't want to follow laws. subpoenas that he blocks them from appearing in front of the congress and the committees? he thinks he is lawless. that's all there is to it. host: robert is california -- in california. hello to all of the veterans out there. i believe that he should not testify. adam schiffeve that should recuse himself. he should testify. jagmember being in the hearings, what you would call whistleblowers. they had to face their accusers back and forth in the military. officeriden was a naval
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with cocaine. brig.nt six months in the he should be up there. i would like to see that. nothing happened to him. the is a military person. thank you. host: the lower should not testify. hear all of the people who are slated to testify so far. this starts at 10:00 on c-span3. the former ambassador to ukraine will testify on friday at 11:00 on c-span two. you can download the free c-span radio app. robert talked about having adam schiff testify.
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a letter was sent saying one more deposition should happen behind closed doors, the deposition of adam schiff. joseph is in california. caller: thank you to the veterans today. caller, i agree with. the question that i have, it's more of a concern, what we are dealing with his nepotism on large scale. pelosi and adam schiff, when our representatives are elected into office, they swear to uphold the legal system and the constitution. they have put party before their oaths. what we're dealing with on the tod pro quo is that happened
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biden. since biden is a democrat, he is not being looked into. this is a problem. we need to have this looked into. divisionhave an ethics within the house of representatives looking into all of this. doneed some assistance to what the house of representatives is failing to do. host: tony is in clam out california. -- klamath, california. caller: thank you for c-span. i want to compare with the last caller just said to the thatlican caller who said the most important thing is being transparent. them --zing that
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,epublicans are ok with people the white house keeping people from testifying. they are ok with that. that is breaking the law. then they are so hypocritical. they want to out the whistleblower, who is protected by law. it's just hypocritical. i was very heartened by that republican caller who said the republicans need to be transparent, the president needs to be transparent. he needs to respect the law. host: the president is tweeting moments ago.
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in southto connie carolina. caller: good morning. to give a heartfelt thanks to the veterans and their families who sacrifice so much. absolutely, they need to testify. it needs to be on record. it needs to be televised. everything that's been set up until this point, if they can't do it in front of us, they need to wipe it off the record. let us know everything that's going on. or just shut up and move on.
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we have had enough of this foolishness. embarrassed for what they have done to our system, trying to protect themselves. a lot of what has been done to the president should be investigated as treason also. this goes both ways. there should be nothing behind closed doors, nothing that can't be set in front of all of us. thelast election was just beginning. do to goothing we can any lower. let's get it together and look out for americans. reporting --s is one of the at attorneys
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representing the whistleblower 2017 that january impeachment will follow. --remarked harry is in florida. go ahead. maybe i missed something. there is nothing in the whistleblower act that says the whistleblower remains anonymous. it says he's not to be discriminated against. his anonymity is not protected.
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i don't understand why nobody understands that. host: we will leave it there. we want to thank you for watching and we thank our veterans who have served this today today's program. we will leave you with a shot of the tomb of the unknown at the national -- the arlington national cemetery. thank you all for watching this morning. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2019]
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>> in a tweet from president trump on this veterans day, the president will participate in the wreathlaying and parade in new york city. we will have live coverage in 30 minutes right here on c-span. >> watch the c-span network's -- networks live this week of the house intelligence committee holds the first house impeachment inquiry. the committee will hear from three state department official starting wednesday at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span three, top u.s. diplomat in ukraine come william taylor, and debbie assistant secretary of state
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george kent will testify and then on friday 11:00 a.m. eastern on c-span two, former u.s. ambassador to ukraine, marie jovanovich, will appear before the committee. and then testimony from the deposition, find the transcripts at c-span.org/impeachment. leo shane at our table, debbie editor of military times to talk about veterans issues and we divided the line for veterans, 202-748-8000, all others, 202-748-8001. -- you sat down with the v.a. secretary recently, what is his agenda? guest: it's interesting, it's been another tool to us year for v.a., they had some legislation passed, one of the keys of the trump presidency looking to expand outside care and community care programs. the last few months have been implementing that but we' b

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