tv Campaign 2020 Deval Patrick at Politics and Eggs CSPAN November 25, 2019 3:37pm-5:08pm EST
announcer: president travels to florida for a campaign rally. his first rally since changing his official residence from new york to florida. we will have live covers starting at 7:00 eastern on c-span. a now i democratic president candidate and former massachusetts governor, deval patrick greeting voters and speaking on policy issues during a politics and eggs breakfast in manchester, new hampshire.
amazing, this kind of crowd with a level of interest today here for this great "politics & eggs" breakfast. we do these things because we have great sponsors who are here. their names are around the room to help us put these on. we have been doing quite a few of them of course, and i want to just mention that comcast, they are always front and center, always willing to help but comcast is going to be in this room in about two hours and they film their newsmaker segment. as soon as this is over we go right into comcast mode so other exciting week. we have a lot of great dignitaries. but i just want to recognize heather who really got the harvard institute of politics off the ground and running and it's a great partner with us. i'm so happy you are here today. [applause] neil: we have a great partner,
is aew hampshire partner great partner with the new england council come to england chamber of commerce. jim and i basically breakfast lunch and dinner together and i want to introduce jim, jim brett for the purposes of introduction. thank you. [applause] jim: let the record be known that i pay for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. [laughter] forget about it. i also want to acknowledge the presence of a former lieutenant massachusetts, tim murray is here. we welcome him in his first visit here. [applause] and i too would like to welcome all of you on behalf of the new england council here. i want to thank the entire team, same days for their wonderful ongoing partnership with the new england council. i think with a record number of candidates this year, we had a record number of politics and
eggs programs. i believe today is our 20th politics and eggs. i don't know about you but the doctor says my cholesterol level is going higher and higher and higher, so it's going to come to an end soon but i want to thank st. anselm for all they do to make these programs such an outstanding must stop to say the least. and, of course, gratitude goes to all the sponsors. they are the ones who make it possible to have the venue and the breakfast here, and they are corporate citizens of new hampshire and new england. if you know anyone affiliate with any of them you should thank them for this wonderful, wonderful public service they provide here. 2019 has been an incredible year for the new england council and we have a few more events in store before the years in. -- end. i believe we over 70 events here this year and all six single
state and in washington with the governors and the congressman and senators, president of candidates and cabinet secretaries. we even had the speaker of the british comments, house of commons speak at the new england council. we haven't taken off the gas -- taken our foot off the gas pedal. next week we host congressional roundtable in boston. with congressman bill keating and congresswoman katherine clark on the evening of tuesday, december 3. we hope you will join us for our annual holiday celebration at the kennedy institute for the united states senate. needless to say it's a wonderful, wonderful evening. i promise it will be worth the drive here from new hampshire. our final d.c. event of the will -- of the year will be held in december 10 in washington where we'll host congressman stephen lynch for a capital conversation. our guest today is someone who i know needs little or no introduction in this room. but let me take a moment to remind you of his very impressive background. born and raised in the south side of chicago, he first came
to new england to pursue his education. first at milton academy and later at harvard university where he received both his undergraduate and law degrees. went on to achieve great career success. both in the public sector as an attorney, as president bill clinton's justice department, and in the private sector. holding leadership positions in major corporations like texaco and coca-cola. some have questioned his decision to jump in the presidential race. the word underdog has been used pendant -- pundit, but let me remind you that exactly what he was in 2005 when you decided to run for governor of the commonwealth, as a political newcomer he defeated well-known longtime public official in the democratic primary, well-known lieutenant governor in the general election. during his eight years as chief
executive he pursued ambitious agenda which included implementing the states first of its kind health care reform law, investing in public education to close the achievement gap of minority students, and setting ambitious goals for expanded renewable energy in the state. all of this is to say, he is a man who is not afraid of a challenge or an uphill battle. on a personal note i had the opportunity to work with and get to know the governor pretty well during his tenure at the statehouse where he appointed as -- appointed me as chairman of the governors commission for the people with intellectual disabilities. needless to say, i always found him to be kind, very generous, very effective. importantly, very compassionate. he's been out on the campaign trail for the past two weeks and today we are pleased to welcome him home to new england and to "politics & eggs."
i know all of you are eager to hear about his vision for the future of our country, and why he thinks he's the best candidate to take on president next year. please join me in welcoming the former governor of the commonwealth, my dear friend, the honorable deval patrick. [applause] mr. patrick: thank you. jim, thank you so much for the extraordinarily generous introduction, and to you and the new england council and two st. a's and it is to of politics thank you very much for having me. thank you to ladies and gentlemen, for coming out this morning. it's an honor to be with you. i'm delighted that lieutenant governor is i guess we're out of stickam lieutenant governor murray, just to be sure, we are all talk about the same person,
and many of the friends are here today in the room. you already know my story. perhaps for those of you who don't, i apologize to those who do. i want to start there because it provides i think important context for why i'm running for president, and then we can save most of our time for conversation. as jim said, i started out on the south side of chicago. much of that time on welfare. i lived there with my mother, my sister, my grandparents and other relatives who came and went, at least after our parents split when i was four. and our grandparents two-bedroom -- in our grandparents two-bedroom timid. my mother, sister and i shared one of those bedrooms in a set of bunkbeds, you go from the top bunk to the bottom bunk to the floor. i went from big, broken, overcrowded underresourced sometimes violent public schools and still my grandmother would always tell us you are not poor and we're not poor, just broke.
because broke she said is temporary. for all the things we didn't have, one thing we did have was a very strong community. that was a time when every child was under the jurisdiction of every single adult on the block. if you messed up down the street in front of ms. jones, she would go upside your head like you were hers. then you got home and got it. what those adults were trying to get across was membership in community is understanding the stake you have in your neighbors dreams and struggles as well as your own. the other lesson i learned mainly from old ladies in hats in church was that we were supposed to do what we can in our time to leave things better for those who come behind us. it's the same ancient lesson everyone of us are learned from our grandparents, that each of us bears a responsibility for the next generation. these lessons of community and a generational responsibility have
stuck with me. they are the home i keep being called back to. through college and law school, through my u.n. work in darfur, sudan, from a civil rights work at the legal defense fund or the department of justice, through my assignments in business and my terms as governor. with -- whether representing haitian tenants in eviction proceedings, defending voting rights organizers, making employment practices in a big companies fair and open, expanding health care, to over 90% of our residents in massachusetts hoping to grow a company that delivers a dental services to poor kids, i have always worked to leave things better for those that come behind me. getting results in those settings and in others requires building bridges. never once have i taken an assignment where i left my conscious out the door -- conscience at the door.
in my experience, confidence in my values alongside an openness to working with others is the formula for change that lasts. that's why i'm running for president. we need leadership that's about bringing us together not tearing us apart. we need leadership that's about leaving things better for those who come behind us, not about scoring partisan points. we need leadership that understands that unity makes us not only stronger, but successful. in other words, leadership that is about doing the job not just having it. i am a democrat and proud of it. democrats are the party of strivers and strugglers, the folks who look to america to offer a way up and a way forward. we are the party of families who want a home they can afford in a neighborhood that's safe, of students who want to further their education without being en
-- enslaved by debt. of seniors who want to age with dignity. of immigrants who want a lawful path to mainstream american life , of the incarcerated who want a second chance. of all of us who want health care that we can afford and count on. that's us. the party of active government when it comes to preking the -- protecting the planet and civil rights and the party of government restraint when it comes to endless war or a woman making her own health decisions or any one of us marrying whomever we love. i believe that the american experiment is deeply invested in aspiration and common cause, in basic fairness that it works where we build community and bear our responsibility to leave things better for those who come behind us. that's the kind of party that these dark times require. that's why i'm a democrat. but i don't think that you have
to hate republicans to be a good democrat. i don't think you have to hate a conservatives to be a good progressive. i don't think you have to hit this to be a good civil warrior. you don't have to grow up poor and stay poor to hate chronic poverty. i try to be the kind of man who rejects false choices not for the sake of tamping down disagreement and smoothing things over, but because of the range of my life experience has taught me, so many of the choices that we present each other in politics are in fact false. so i want you to understand that i am proud to be a democrat, but i am not running to be president of the democrats. i'm running to be president of the united states. and there's a difference. i'm not talking about a moderate agenda, that's the lat thing we -- the last thing we need in times like these.
i'm talking about being woke, as my friend says, while leaving room for the still waking. i'm talking about what it takes to govern, what it takes to actually make change that lasts. the values of community and generational responsibility are essential for the american dream to flourish. it was because others here and abroad fought for, prayed for and died for civic ideals of equality, opportunity and fair play that i and so many others, maybe even some of you here, have experienced an improbable journey beyond our circumstances of birth. grit, determination, resilience, high expectations and good fortune are fundamental to be sure, but so also are good schools with well-prepared and supportive teachers. so also is food and shelter you can count on. so also is an economy that has a
place for you when you're ready to go to work. most people i meet aren't looking for government to solve every problem in everybody's life, just to do its part to help people help themselves. there's just no denying that over the years we've seen policies shift away from the values of community and of generational responsibility. the obsession with short-term quarter to quarter results i saw in my business life, has crept into the way we govern, where we govern from election cycle to election cycle and news cycle to news cycle. we've tilted our economy toward the well connected. we've come to associate poverty with the unrelated concept of fault. and we've bleached justice slowly, but methodically out of the justice system. common cause, let alone common decency, has vanished for much
of our national politics and we've so diminished and belittled government over the years that the public's confidence in it to address common needs keeps shrinking. leaders who spend every waking moment trying to divide us have made it worse. caging children and demeaning the weak and vulnerable have made us all ashamed, but the troubling fact is that before the current administration, the poor were stuck in poverty and the great recession exposed how the middle class are just a paycheck or two away from being poor. the frustration, alienation and even betrayal that folks feel in farm country or in coal country, in small towns across america and many a suburb today is remarkably familiar to me, from my life on the south side of chicago. the american dream i have lived
is up for grabs, but it doesn't have to be this way. there is a way up that's not about tearing people down. there is a way to build together. i know this because that's what we did in massachusetts. we faced the worst economic crisis in a generation, just like all of you. and because we stuck together, and made shared sacrifices in the interest of shared prosperity, we emerged stronger on the other side. after eight years of hard work and focus through those values, massachusetts ranked first in the nation in student achievement, in health care coverage, in veteran's services, in energy efficiency, in entrepreneurial activity just to name a few. we helped to revive an economy hammered by recession by turning
it into a global innovation powerhouse creating a 25-year employment high. we developed a national model for addressing climate change, by working with our neighbors on -- neighboring states on the greenhouse gas initiatives, planning for and investing in resilience and recovery, closing coal fire power plants and building a solar, wind, and energy efficiency sector that both generated ample alternatives and created justice, the ethics rules, our state pension system and we did it with responsible budgets and by earning the highest bond rating in state history. now, we did not get everything right, nobody does. but we got these and other results because we worked hard every day to do all the good we could for all the people we could, in all the ways we could, for as long as we could. we governed for everyone
everywhere, not just the people who voted for us, by asking people to turn to each other rather than on each other. if we want affordable health care for everyone everywhere, if we want an economy that offers a future for everyone everywhere, if we want a justice system that is just, an immigration system that works, a tax system that makes sense, we need leadership that builds bridges. a politics that says we have an agree on everything before we work together on anything, that offers government by slogan and short-term wins is exactly the kind of politics that brought us to this point. substituting our version for theirs is not actually going to deliver change that lasts, if it delivers change at all. in the coming weeks, we'll be rolling out our policy agenda. you'll hear about a reform agenda that proposes
fixes to systems like the tax system, immigration, health care, and criminal sentencing, systems that need to work in order for the american dream to work and a democracy agenda to end the gerrymandering, excessive money, much of it dark, and voter suppression that have steadily and cynically choked off the fundamental acts of citizenship and they must be addressed so that it's easier for everyone to make representative government meaningful. but first, you'll hear about the agenda about how we grow the economy out to the middle and marginalized and up to the well connected, because treating our challenges, as if everything is a zero sum game, is neither necessary more in character as americans. beyond the redistribution others are talking about, we need to expand the economic pie and enable more people to earn their way in it.
and change of the global, and changes that last more with the indignation however righteous that may be, more than the character of the candidates is at stake this time. this time it's the character of the country. this time, it's about restoring the american dream so that it works for everyone everywhere. this time it's about whether we are prepared to do the work of rebuilding our national community for today, and for tomorrow. people ask quite rightly why i am running for president, especially when the field is so full already. you sound tired yourself. [laughter]
the answer is experience, both range and depth. i have two terms of accomplishments and reforms as governor, a record of successful leadership in business. a demonstrated commitment to fighting and winning for the most vulnerable as an advocate and a life that epitomizes the american dream and what it takes to make that real. and i have learned from all of that that building a better future requires building bridges and rejecting the false choices we so often medal to one another. rejecting false choices to build a better way forward together is not fanciful, it's not wishful thinking or a talking point, it's my life. i got a break, as jim said, when i was 14 years old for a program called a better chance, to go to milton academy, you know, a boarding school some of you know
in a leafy neighborhood in boston. arriving there alone in 1970 before classes began, felt to me like a different planet. they had a dress code then, boys wore jackets and ties to classes. when the closing list arrived at home my grandparents splurged on a new jacket for me to bring to school, but a jacket on the south side, you have to understand, is a wind breaker. right. so on that first morning while all the other boys were putting on their blue blazers and the tweed coats, there was i in my wind breaker. i had a lot to learn. as i met new friends from strange places, some who had their names on the buildings and used summer as a verb, i was full of curiosity about them and their lives, but they were curious about so much about me and my life back on the south side. by the same token, my friends back home were curious about so much about my life at
milton academy. before long i began to sense that i was straddling these two worlds, where the price of admission to the one was rejecting the other. but it was false choice. i realized that to live my fullest life, i had to decide who i was and to be that all the time whatever world i happened to be travelling through at any given time. it's a tough lesson to grapple with at any age, especially at 14, but a vital one. i learned that being true to who i was made it possible to build bridges, and i learned how not to lose myself or my way as i built. in our history, america has herself seemed to straddle two worlds from time to time. a
land of hope and welcome, and of enslavement and exclusion. a land of extraordinary progress and of confining nostalgia. a land where extraordinary wealth and transformative kindness can exist side by side with abject poverty and hate. it still makes my heartache to think that this great nation could defeat totalitarianism and win the second world war and then demean and disenfranchise the black ring misdelivery.
they have meaning only when we remember, especially in dark and challenging times like these. neighborsstake in our struggles. just as they do in ours. i am hopeful for america. hopeful because more people are coming off the sidelines and standing up for america at her generous and optimistic best. at any given time on any given issue, activism like we see today may make people in power uncomfortable. these activists are our neighbors. they have a stake in us like they do in us. from legislators to the ballot boxes to the streets, to the courtrooms, to lay claim to a better democracy. a better national community, and ultimately to the best of the
american character. together, and if the woke leave room for the still waking, we may find we have before us the best chance in generations to build for our children and ourselves a truly in america that understands our greatness comes from our goodness. that is the leadership i am about. the mannequin -- try to be. that's the responsibility i will bear as the president of the united states. thank you for -- having me. i look forward to your questions.
>> we have time for a few questions. for the governor. he will stayto me until the last question. raise your hand. do we have anyone with an moving mike? identify yourself. >> hello. i wanted to thank you for your leadership on the global solutions of the global warming solutions act. what is your priority day one as president for climate? >> i like the people asked me day one or 100 day questions. day one is figuring out the route from the residence to the oval office -- office and back again. on a serious note, it does not get your question, but it is
advice i have given in other settings. understanding who the emergency management team is. who they are and what they control. surprises always come. and i think one of the reasons we were as prepared as we were for the marathon bombings, for example, is because we had hurricanes and the loss of drinkable water for the eastern half three,. where the talent is in the resources, and how to pull them together. the question of climate change, there are things we can do if i am right about the calendar. around getting back into the paris accords. if i'm right about the calendar. if i am not right about the
calendar, we have to get back to the table and negotiate our way in. if the condition of coming in is that we raise our own game, that is ok. that's important. i do think that some of the other approaches to climate are like those we took. sorry, took there. am i putting in the right direction? an exit -- in massachusetts. prospectted about the of a carbon free economy. athink we have to go the in way that is not about frightening people. but about how we bring people along. i can remember who made this point. andstone age did not because we ran out of stone.
it ended because we got a better idea. we are pretty good in this country, historically, about transition -- innovation. we are not as good about transition. country, and ial folks have -- folks there feel very threatened by a carbon free economy. them, has ever said to how about we consider coal country as the center for developing a portion of this new sector? stake in you have a this feature, instead of feeling like the feature is happening to them, that we are building this new future. those are some ideas. a question from the aarp.
>> you are right. over thee you hear all place, and for good reason. we have a prescription drug economy. the cost of investing of enveloping drugs is borne by this country, mainly. not exclusively, but mainly. the cost and reaping of the return is borne by us. but not by the rest of the world. way to think about smoothing matter. so that the rest of the world has a stake in the investment. so that the return, with the is a benefit that is spread around the world. and not just borne by us.
many of the same prescription drugs north of here for a fraction of the price. also nuts that for a peer zap of time, the president could not negotiate prices. not with the industry and not with other jurisdictions. they said, we are perfectly fine with a global economy, and we will say, no. we will do it this way. we have talked about cost controls and price controls. i'm not sure that is a long-term solution. i am more interested in systemic fixes. i will step back from your question and say it is an important piece, but just a piece of the health care cost equation. it's just darned too high.
i remember when we were dealing with this when i was in office and a couple of you here will remember this. from the insurance industry and providers, advocates. we had doctors and other professionals around the table. when prices were going up and double digits, even during the of the recession, and i said, look, we have done all of this work to get access to everybody. why do costs keep going up? the answer would always start this way. >> -- it is complicated. that would go like this. the doctors would say, it's not us, it's the hospitals. hospital say it's the insurers. into's less transparency how all this fits together then it ought to be.
need a much more rigorous collaboration on the cost-containment side systemwide. massachusetts, we had a collaboration on expanding access. it's beyond your question, but drug prices as part of how we should be thinking about solutions. >> another question. >> unless you have a better idea. do you want to make? i know rob does. >> the honorable justice. >> can i just say before, this doesn't have to be a one-way thing. if you have an idea, offered. -- offer it. >> i wish i did. i have a question. i might have an idea later. >> thanks for coming here today.
i firmly served as chief justice of this state. the reason i mention that is that for the last 3.5 years, i've been doing the most important work of my life. around ton going speak about mental health awareness. wereeople in this room with me on those mornings in those schools, they would understand we have a crisis in this country. young people with anxiety and depression. we do not have a mental health care system in america. i am asking this question from my experience on a granular level. if you are president of the -- >>maybe on day three better get those hands up, everybody. promotewould you do or -- no one talks about this issue. it affects one in five adults and kids. i hug them every time i speak to them. what would you do with mental
health to make a difference? >> first met think you for your service and thank you for the question. issues we deal with in our family. we had a bumpy first few months in office. my wife of 35 years, i always point out, we don't have term limits in massachusetts. i have one named diane. she said to terms and that is it. was a brilliant but reluctant first lady. the next few months, the stress was too much. shehas managed anxiety and ended up in the hospital. every member to visit with her and the troopers, in my security would talk about slipping
in and slipping out. going in secretly and all of that. it was ridiculous. saying i am not ashamed, i just don't feel well. i said, you should explain this. you should say something about it. against the advice of her excellent physicians, we explained she was suffering from anxiety and depression and we asked for respect of that. i will say that from the media on, people were fabulous. here's the point. thousands and thousands of notes and messages of encouragement and thanks, because she made it ok to talk with what she was dealing and what we as a family were
dealing with. i think one of the things she is most excited about and being first lady is being a leader on those issues. some of this is just about bringing light where there are shadows. for getting past the shame. that, that, or alongside is the question about treating mental health as health care. -- and developing the capacity so we can respond to the needs people have in the stations in life they are in. i'm not talking about social or economic stations. just where they are in their own journey. there was a settlement i read recently, where the teachers had secured an agreement to have a nurse in every school, and the nurse, under the agreements are
entitled -- excuse me, required to have training in recognizing mental health issues, particularly anxiety and depression. that way, they can make a prompt referral and so that they can encourage young people and shamets to get past the and deal with it. the underlying secret about expanding health care is that we don't expand -- if we don't expand capacity or develop primary care physicians alongside specialists and mental health care professionals and spread the responsibility among the whole range are not going to meet with the objective. said, i am trying to think about these things as a systems and what are the
elements of how we get the systems right. i think this has to be an element of how we think about making self-care -- health care reform work. thank you. on thes take a student right, in the back here. >> thank you governor patrick for being here. small world. my question relates to the humanitarian crisis on our southern border. many of these people come from central american nations filled with gang activity and drugs. how would you address this crisis? >> there are two parts of it, maybe three. we have to get root causes. engages a way to
globally that does not make us -- america's police person, it doesn't make us responsible for every hot spot in every part of the world. but it does engage in ways that we know work. serves both our humanitarian aspirations and our practical interests. to make it come in, by the way, it's amazing to me, asylum is a legal process. we lump it all into the same pocket of outsiders and unwanted. i think that has to change. when the obama administration was facing a similar -- this is to how we deal with the crises today, when the obama administration was facing a similar crisis when i was in calls, sever --
several governor scott calls overview -- whether we would be younged to shelter children, as young as two years old. anyone in here. -- in here a parent can you imagine? --. ? -- parent? can you imagine that? a driver's license? you worry about the safety of your loved one. the notion that you look to the u.s. for safety and dignity and that we treat children that way when they seek asylum, to me, that is wrong. it's wrong. i think there are partnerships like the one the
obama station asked about. -- demonstration asked about. -- obama administration asked about. and helping with resources and support. causes, it's root a band-aid. comprehensive immigration reform has to include both border integrity. by the way -- don't buy the democrats believe in open borders. that is ridiculous. to -- havewe have modern, humane responses, responsible systems and rules. do not. one of the reasons we don't and one of the reasons we are facing the issues we do is because capital is google -- global but labor is not. people go where there is opportunity, but we don't make away for people to come for that
opportunity that is transparent and straightforward and fair. that for have to trade border integrity. we should have border integrity. ifhink we can resolve this we can drain the racism out of the debate. someone made the point recently very well that to some extent, it feels like the current administration would rather have the issue than the solution. have it. to this administration is not the first like that. back?tlemen in the i am with the educational justice institute at m.i.t.. we provide college education in massachusetts. sure you know we incarcerate
more people in this country than any other country in the world. we are putting lots of people away and they are all coming sure you know we incarcerate more people in thisback. i applaud some proposals, but i am adjusted and what you have to say. >> a couple things. thank you for what you're doing. i refer to government by slogan earlier. oute strikes and you're sounds clever. it's a failed policy. it is not the only example. it's a failed policy. we have warehoused an entire generation of people. mostly black men. not exclusively, as you know, a black man. by, first ofounded all, understanding that 97%, 95% come out one day.
understanding that, we still compound the ability to come out and rejoin productive life. preparation for coming back out, then you can't get public housing or benefits in some places. the things you need to get on your feet, and because we stripped so much of that out of programs inside and out of programs outside, it should not surprise us that people come out more dangerous than they went in. issues,e is recidivism because there is nowhere else to go. people do dangerous and desperate
so, i think that putting the notion of rehabilitation back into the criminal justice system is important. i think that the -- that minimum mandatory sentencing needs a huge overall. we took some steps in that direction and chief justice, i wonder how you think about this. the shifting of decision making power to prosecutors rather than to-- rather than to judges, which has happened in my lifetime, produces -- i can talk about stop i did on the death penalty in the south and how that tends to go up around election time for district attorneys. so, you know, how do we get-- i've talked about justice in the justice system. i think there is a way. it's not just backward looking, way, because it wasn't all that great before. but there is a way to think about-- we haven't talked about voting rights for folks who are former felons. there's a way to think about our justice system, which is about preparing, you know, having people do their time. they did the deed, they should do the time, but preparing
thes who come out, which is overwhelming majority to reenter productive mainstream life and we can be intentional about that and we should be. >> got a mic for the general. >> general jack hammond, the head of the home based program, the premier program in the united states that takes care of all the returning iraqi, afghanistan vets and does it in such a compassionate and caring way, but truly a national model in massachusetts, and the general and the boston red sox. general hammond. [applause] hammond: jim, thanks for that. >> thank you, general. thank you for your service. general hammond: sir, as you mentioned earlier, massachusetts has some amazing programs for veterans. have you given any thought to the va with respect to the growing epidemic of veteran suicide? >> yeah.
general hammond: we're losing 22, 20 veterans a day and i think the 20 number is a low number, that's what's reported and the challenge is identifying all of these veterans. so there's roughly 20 million veterans in the country and 10 million loose affiliation with the va. 5 are getting treatment. scene the budget grow from $80 billion in 911 to $20 billion plus to date with little to no improvement on the suicides. we had a 300% increase in suicide of our special operations soldiers. we're now having a multi-generational war where young paratroopers fighting today were born after 9/11 and grew up in military families knowing nothing, but mom and dad or both mom and dad deploying for two decades, nearly. we have no idea of a -- of the consequences of a child who grew up in that environment and has their own war time trauma. so the problem is not getting better, the challenges are growing while the solutions seem to be the same and not working.
>> yeah. general hammond but i guess my : question is, have you given us any thoughts on how we could, not get rid of the va, but modernize is and bring it into the 21st century to be effective. gov. patrick: and when you say not getting rid of the va, is that because you've thought of getting rid of the va? general hav hammond: i've i have. listened to that argument and there's concern of that. when you go back to the creation, bradley was the administrator. he cautioned us to focus on combat injuries and avoid chronic care. but as the veteran population aged, it became the largest chronic care, elder care system and the preponderance of the treatments they were caring for were cancer-related cardiac care and a lot of stuff dealing with older age. because we didn't have a lot of new veterans. and as we came into the two decades of war we have a large influx of combat wounded so we
were ill-prepared as we entered that two decades of war to deal with that. i think part of the challenge is we need to go back and look at what should the va be focusing on. gov. patrick: yeah. general hammond: but we can't lose sight of the fact they care for the older veterans. how can we more effectively treat this? i know i was at the jamaica plain va a few years ago and there was a group of guys that bused down from maine to get eye exams. so they have to get up at 6:00 in the morning, catch a bus at 7:00 a.m. and go all the way to boston to get an eye exam or a dental exam we there's a beautiful hospital in maine. i think there's better, more cost effective solutions without throwing the baby out with the bath water to still care for people and do it more efficiently and bring the va into focus for what they should be doing, and be the best at it. gov. patrick: well, general, you
know, i'm reminded at some level of what it was like when i was campaigning in cambridge, somebody ande is who would ask me they'd already a question written a book on the subject. [laughter] gov. patrick: don't ask me. but i think you made a couple of points that jump out at me because i think to some extent you are describing a failure of the larger health care system and the default to the va which added to the scope-- let me put it to mission creep. and i think that simply saying, and i am not simply saying and you are not either, but i want to be careful not to be heard to say, let me put it this way, that chronic care unrelated to combat, to combat injuries, to your point about the original mission, should be done by the
general health care system. i'm reluctant to be heard to say that that's good enough without fixing the larger system. so there's actually responses and affordable. and you will hear, by the way, if i could just drop a footnote here, it's very, very hard for me to accept the way we do policy, which is in silos because most people live their lives -- do you want me to wait and you can get that -- most people live their lives in ways that policies intersect. to me it's not enough to say, well, let's go back to the founding mission of the va. and i recognize that's not what you're saying, it's not what i'm saying either, unless we actually have a general health care system that can catch and meet that need. my father-in-law, diane's dad,
is a navy veteran from world war ii and he got all of his care near the end of his life both in new york and when he was living with us in boston and most of his social life at the va. and loved both. but i do understand the strain on the system and the importance of rationalizing it, but again, i think it has to be rationalized alongside larger systems. there are other things happening in the broader system i just -- in health care generally. put in place under the previous administration and still moving forward that i think could be promising. and one is telehealth. you know, full disclosure, i'm on the board or was on the board of a company that does telehealth. this is a notion of a lot of primary care and even urgent care, being available, you know, at the other end of your computer screen. now, that depends on whether you actually have access to high
speed broadband. this is what i mean by interconnected. i think that infrastructure is a part of this. but help me. thank you. >> one or two more. >> thank you very much. first of all, governor, i cannot tell you how happy and delighted and overjoyed i am that you're in the race and bringing your superior intelligence and insights and wisdom to this process. i think it's making a difference. it's making a difference here today and across the country. >> and thank you very much. [laughter] >> i want to-- i'm going to make my question about your fourth day in office and you did three and this is day four. and you appointed me to chair
the board of higher education. in young higher education is such a critical and important part of everything that we do. on one hand, what do you think? what can we do to better its support and give resources to our institutionses of higher education to be more successful? but i actually want to focus my question on younger people and something that you said today about when you left chicago and you came to massachusetts to school and there's a lot of young people like you in chicago that don't get the opportunity to come to massachusetts to get this amazing education. gov. patrick: you are exactly right. >> you are the same person when you were 14 as you are today, but the power of education has enabled you to do what it is that you're doing and i think that this is such a critical message about what you can bring to this country. there are poor kids in new hampshire across the united states and just like you, every color of the rainbow, who need the type of education that you got. and i think as the president of the united states, you if could
commit yourself to making that type of educational system available to children in the united states, i think that's the kind of transformative force that can lift up this nation and lift up the population of this country to recognize the bout of what we have to offer and what -- recognize of what we have to recognize the beauty of what we have to offer and what we can do for the rest of the world. i mean, can you promise me that once you get elected on day four, that education is going to be your priority? thank you. gov. patrick: so you and i have worked on these issues together and i thank you for that partnership. i do think that -- i do think we have to commit not just i have to commit, we have to commit to worldclass education, pre-k through higher ed and frankly into skills development and retraining and lifelong learning because that's the economy we're becoming. and it shouldn't be scary for people.
we have a -- i'm going to come to reducing the cost of public higher ed in a minute. we have a middle skills gap in this country which -- i mean, if you think about it, it will blow your mind. at the worst of the recession we had 175,000 people out of work in massachusetts, i think just about, and 125,000 vacancies, and what those -- and many of them so-called middle skills, so, folks that needed more than a high school degree, but not necessarily a college diploma. they needed skills of some kind that were taylorilored to the -- never tailored to the opportunity. what many employers told us they couldn't find people with the skills necessary for the jobs they had in a recession and that, i think, will be true of our economy given the pace of change for some while. and that can be a brilliant thing.
it can be a differentiator, not the skills gap, but it can be a -- skills gap, but meeting it can be a differentiator for us economically and culturally or socially, i think, in this country. it does start with having high quality schools everywhere, everywhere. by the way, that's not going to be, as you know, the same solution everywhere. there is going to have to be leadership about the goal, but we're going to have to let, with accountability, state and local authorities engage on how to meet those goals. i think it does include universal access to pre-school or to pre-k, universal. by the way, in milton where we lived for years and years, we do that for our kids. a bet a bunch of you do. if you live just walking distance, you can't and you won't and not that you don't
want to, but not that you don't understand how high quality ed can make a difference through your educational career, but you don't do it because you can't do it and by the way, if you're right on the edge where paying for it means you have to work work, but working means you can't afford anything else, you know, that trade that so many couples and families are having to-- are having to make, it's-- that doesn't work. i think also -- and i think you're probably baiting me to talk about the readiness agenda which we worked on together, which was a compilation of these strategies, i think the public has to come back into public education, including public higher education. we did what we could through recession to reinvest in the public university in college systems by doing a 50-50 match,
but you know, what public colleges and universities, i think, have done in massachusetts and elsewhere, god bless them, is, you know, try to do this strategy you see in private colleges where they've raised tuition as much as they think the market will bear and promise to raise tuition aid for those who can't. except that tuition aid never keeps up with the cost of college tuition and for a public college in particular, it should be a meaningfully more affordable opportunity, quality, but meaningfully more affordable and i think that's in the nature of the burden we all bear in order to leave things bet are -- better for those who come behind us. so, i don't think that the answer is about everybody going to milton academy or schools like it. but i am very, very conscious,
as i think you know, there are lots of other young people just as creative, just as ambitious, just as determined as i was, who didn't get that opportunity and they need and deserve because they are our kids, a way forward, too. >> governor, what's the proudest accomplishment as your eight years as governor? gov. patrick: so the question i hate the most is what did you going to do on day one and the one i hate next is my proudest accomplishment. i think, you know, i mentioned some of them and i mentioned them in a list, not for the bragging purposes, but because i do think they connect in real people's lives, they connect. you know, you can have a great education and no growing economy
afterwards and so what, in a way, is how people are left to feel. i think that there was a tone we set that we could think big and deliver, that i think was enormously important and i think we saw it in some ways most starkly after the bombing at the marathon. you know, that was a time when -- a moment where there was chaos and fear, and quite justifiable, where we didn't know, you know, that we'd think about it now, there were two guys, two bombs, and as if that was known at the time. we didn't know. i remember on the day of the -- at the end, you know, you all know about some of the drama, but you don't know that we stopped the train, the amtrak train headed to new york out of
south station early this morning, stopped it outside of new haven and had it searched, that we had detained someone who fit the description of one of the bombers in the fenway, in a taxi, with an explosive device in the trunk or that federal authorities were chasing somebody else who fit the description out by the federal courthouse or that the fire at the kennedy library, remember, was thought to be related to the attack as well. i mean, there was -- you don't have complete information, but you still have to make decisions and you still have to encourage not be overcome by their fear so they can do the job.
and doing the job turns out not to be the responsibility of the officials alone, not all of us. asking people to turn to, not on. and it's a-- it sounds like a rhetorical thing, it's real. and those acts of kindness that people show, the way they brought runners in when the race was stopped and brought them into their homes and hydrated them and explained what was happening and reunited people with their families the way that the public through their, you know, cell phone pictures and videos helped us find these two terrorist needles in a haystack in 100 plus hours, 100 plus hours. it was tragic that we lost the lives that we did at the site, but given the nature of the industry -- of the injuries we should have lost many, many more, but not a single life-threatening injury resulted in death because we had an emergency response plan that the
hospitals had practiced with us for times like these. we turned to each other and we were stronger as a result. and so, as a kind of a snapshot of what i'm talking about, you know, how you can step up stronger by that kind of leadership, by the whole team, not just me, i feel very strongly that that was a pretty special accomplishment. jim: well, this has been a pretty special morning to have the governor here and i think we're going to see an awful lot more of the governor here and as someone who also was at a service in boston shortly after the marathon bombing of the cathedral and the south end of boston where they brought together all of the clergy from the different religious affiliations, the president was there, but i really don't think
you were at the -- you were at the very best of expressing sorrow and compassion and also being a ceo knowing we're going to get through this and we're going to bring people together. that day was memorable for me, but it also reflected so well on you and all the institutions in the commonwealth of massachusetts working together, but talk about stress under a disaster, you exceeded all expectations and made us proud and we are very proud of you. good luck on your campaign. [applause] [inaudible conversations]
>> we happened to be in london on his next to last day. he invited us up, and we had a visit to say hello. he was give me a hard time. what's the matter with you? >> now he's in the private sector. >> i saw about, i think he's coming over though. i saw that -- i got invitation to a party, a reception --
>> are you guys able to wait a minute? are you okay to wait just a minute? don't leave. stay. stay. stay, right there is good. tell me your first demand where you are from -- first name and where you're from. how do you convince those on beacon hill that you are good for president? >> first of all, i'm running to be president of everyone everywhere, and i am very, very proud of the work we did together on beacon hill. i think sometimes folks make much of the fussing that goes with it, but the fact is the legislature gave me 95% of what i asked for. not when i asked for it, and not
always in the form i asked for, -- for it, but that's the part of give-and-take. here on boston tv right now, lots of michael bloomberg adds. -- ads. frustrating, your jumping in the race and getting overshadowed someone with -- overshadowed with someone with billions of dollars? >> no. i've been up against odds like that in the past. we are going to do the work. i happen to believe that the work is much more about connecting with people personally and where they are in every sense of the term and also we are -- >> he is not trying to buy the election? >> those are your words, not mine. >> governor, now you talk to a -- talk about criminal justice reform. they implement bail reform. a lot of people getting out who didn't get out before committing crimes and refitting. some people have been arrested 12 times. how do you write says criminal
justice form in a place like new hampshire? >> you'll learn learn as you go. one of the things we all are hoping for his innovation and public policy just as a c in the private sector. -- as we see in the private sector. but to have successful innovation, you have to be willing to try things and learn from them. i don't know that the examples you've given me, all the examples that would point to what the right solution is, but we have to get over our fear of the policies being punished if it doesn't go perfectly. i remember when the aca was first rolled out. do you remember there were troubles with the website? we had troubles with website in -- with the website in massachusetts, as well. healthcare reform was about extending access to everybody, and so, fixing these problems, sticking together, refining solutions is going to do what is necessary to make all the reforms that i and the other candidates are talking about actually work. >> governor, you spoke earlier about not wanting to put
unwanted asylum speakers in this large bucket. i wonder, under your administration, do you support the repeal of section 1325 of u.s. code? >> is that the decriminalization? >> correct. can you explain why? >> because that ought to be against the law across the border without authorization. asylum seeking is an authorized way to come in, and we have to make it functionally successful by having ways to come in a -- and process people properly. but as i said earlier -- not just deal with the very serious, but isolated part of the problem you are asking about. >> given the very abbreviated time frame you have, will he be -- you be spending the vast majority of your time in new hampshire as the state to kick it off for you? >> first of all, i want to be respectful of the calendar and
the process, and i also want to be respectful of all of the people everywhere who are looking at this next presidential election. not just in the early states, by the way, but in places where people feel politically overlooked and unseen. as a practical matter, we are going to try to spend a lot of time here in new hampshire and in south carolina, but we will be active in iowa and nevada, as well. >> so your ten days or so, any challenges? any specific challenges you face so far in terms of logistics getting in this late? >> it's interesting, last thursday, we filed in new hampshire, and went from new hampshire to california to nevada to iowa to south carolina, and then atlantic, -- atlanta, d.c., and new york on the way home and we're starting again all over
yesterday. i'm going to be in new hampshire the rest of today and then off to south carolina tomorrow. and i think what i've seen is that path we knew was there was -- is wider than i fully appreciate it. it's a wide-open race. and the fact that folks have been in for a long time and campaigning for a long time and raising money for a long time has not closed, has not resolved it. it's a little bit of how i think about the importance of money, or lack of it. we want it. we are raising it. i think we are competitive and we a c