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>> welcome to the young turks. more damning details in the trayvon martin case. [ gunfire ] >> quite a bit of little jump. >> what does it take to pull that particular trigger? we'll that you be. also, the cops might not have even questioned zimmerman on the scene. unbelievable. also dennis kucinich on the show tonight. >> utterly lacking in integrity. >> we'll ask him about that and obama's policies, what does he think about that as a strong progressive? >> also, the occupy movement takes over the banks.
>> hey!% >> well, we'll talk about how bank of america is so corrupt at its core, you don't want to miss that story. it's go time. ♪ >> well, as usual, we have a lot of developments in the treyvon martin case. he was the 17-year-old african-american teenager shot by george zimmerman who outweighed him by 100 pounds, was 10 years older than him and put himself in charge of the neighborhood watch when in fact he wasn't. he was armed with a nine-millimeter and trayvon martin wasn't armed at all. we find that there was a no confidence vote today on the police chief. it was a 3-2 vote, so was
actually close but he lost it. there were calls for his immediate resignation and he has in fact stepped down temporarily. >> i stand by the sanford police department, its personnel and the investigation that was conducted in rewards to the treyvon martin case. it is apparent my involvement in this matter is overshadowing the process, therefore i have come to the decision that i must temporarily remove myself from the position as police chief for the city of sanford. i do this in the homes of restoring some semblance of calm to the city which has been in turmoil for several weeks. >> but is stepping down temporarily really the answer? i'm not sure it is, and neither are the mother and father of trayvon martin. >> we need a permanent release.
>> the temporary step down of billie is nothing. we want an arrest. we want a conviction and we want him to pay for the murder of our son. >> now, we said over and over here about how police chief billie has to step down. i don't think it should be temporary at all as treyvon martin's mother indicated there and his father saying hey you know what we actually want no to arrest george zimmerman yes! that's what we're looking for and he's still not under arrest and by the way, he can still carry a gun. when we turn to zimmerman for new details on the case, we find out the police did say that stand your gun -- that's a funny or sad slip, stand your ground law was considered by the cops when they were talking to
zimmerman and they considered his defense there. he confessed to the shooting. he was handcuffed and his weapon was removed at the time. ok, but now remember, he has not been arrested and apparently he has his weapon back. now, when they found him he was wet and covered in grass bleeding from the nose and back of his head, given first aid. he was taken to the police station for questioning at that time. we're going to come back to that issue in a second. some people have stepped up to zimmerman's defense, including some of the people who knew him. let's listen to a friend of his. >> george just didn't jump out of a car and start running after trayvon and start shooting him for his skittles and iced tea. >> are you saying trayvon provoked him? >> personally, yes. >> how would you know that? you wouldn't know that at all partly because the police did such a horrible job investigating the case. the police report, talking to a
guest about it last night. >> their job to find the truth one of those police reports an officer says i did motte talk to mr. zimmerman. >> he says at no point did i question zimmerman about the incident that had taken place. that's timothy smith, who was the guy working zimmerman. >> now that's really, really interesting. the guy on the scene the cop on the scene doesn't even question the shooter. that seems very unusual. all right. now we're going to bring in an expert on this, los angeles based attorney tom mesereau, who has worked on incredible cases including the michael jackson one. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> as one looks at this case, it seems like a defense attorney's dream case. the cops seem to be helping by not questioning zimmerman. isn't that unusual? >> very unusual particularly in
the case of a young child killed a child who had no weapon, no motive to assault or hurt anyone. no one has suggested that this young boy was in the process of committing any type of crime misdemeanor or otherwise. that's outrageous. they should take this very seriously. a young life was lost for no reason and it should have been investigated from the opening bell. >> they do a toxicology test on the victim but not on the shooter. isn't that incredibly unusual? >> makes no sense to me. you've got a self appointed security guard carrying a deadly weapon self proclaimed protector of everyone walking around and decides who he is going to shoot and not shoot. something's very wrong with this one. >> lets look at the weapon that you alluded to. we found a clip of someone showing how you shoot that weapon. i think it might be relevant to the case. [ gunshot ] >> one thing that these pistols
hear it click is this that won't shoot it. you have to go all the way to there. you have to let it all the way out so it's ready to go gun. [ gunfire ] >> that's quite a bit of little jump. [ gunfire ] >> now i get two things out of that. it's chilling. the idea of shooting that gun to me means, you know, like your life would have to be in incredible danger for you pull that gun. the second thing i got out of it is that it's not easy. you got to make sure it clicks into place and then shoot. does that affect the case at all in terms of whether it was self defense or not. >> a deadly weapon is a deadly weapon. you don't carry a weapon or use it unless the circumstances put you in imminent peril. different states have different laws about what you can do if you think you're being
assaulted. some say you have to make a reasonable effort to get away, some say you don't. some say you have to get away if you're not in your home. in florida, you don't have a make an effort to retreat. if you're going to use deadly force, the situation has to require deadly force. the advantage the defense has is the only eyewitness available is the fellow who did the shooting. the victim is gone. he can't give you his side. he can't tell you what he perceived and how he acted. however, i think that with a thorough investigation it may conclude that this fellow was trigger-happy, looking for trouble, seeing what he wanted to see and it was an outrageous show of force. >> one thing driving me crazy is just because you have the stand your ground law doesn't mean that you get to use lethal force against someone who has attacked you in whatever shape. doesn't it have to be that you were worried for your life in
order to be able to strike back with lethal force? in order to determine that, wouldn't the cops have had to ask zimmerman questions on the scene, why did you think your life was in danger to that you had to pull the trigger. >> there's the word reasonable, there's the word necessity. typically, lawyers will look from an objective standpoint or subjective standpoint. i think the defense in this case will be saying that given his background, his experiences given what he thought he was obligated to do, he had a subjective belief that he was in eminent peril. i don't think it will hold up. i think the prosecution will be saying objectively speaking he had no right to pull a gun and shoot this man. it was not proportional to the threat. i hope police investigate accordingly. sounds like they're trying to cover something up to me. >> if you're defense attorney for zimmerman, don't you love that they didn't question him on
the scene and let him set his story later. some of the reports say when they finally questioned him the cops asked him leading questions about self defense? it seems like they're his defense attorney. >> there are situations where police officers misuse deadly force, i saw him reaching for his waistband his pocket. i didn't know if this person had a weapon. they were looking at me in a malevolent way. it's up for a jury to decide if they're telling the truth and whether their actions were reasonable. it's outrageous that he was not questioned. it's for the defense advantage that he can sit down and figure out how he's going to structure this. >> stand your ground in florida seems to be something that would help defense attorneys tremendously with justifiable homicides. we don't think this fits stand your ground because he used so much force than what seems to be necessary, but justifiable
homicides tripled in florida since the law. how does that help the defense? >> you don't have to make a reasonable effort to get away, but stand your ground doesn't mean shoot with impugnty, anybody you feel like because you don't to have back track. it's got to be reasonable force necessary force proportional with the threat and the threat has to be a real one. i think the prosecutors are going to have some issues that they can run with, too. >> tom mesereau, thank you so much for joining us. really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> all right. president obama turning to politics to approve the key stone pipeline. right after the break we'll talk that. >> there's a bottleneck right here because we can't get enough of the oil to our refineries fast enough. >> and there is congressman ready to weigh in.
young turks. we've been telling you about the key stone pipeline and president obama actually surprised me earlier when he said he was going to block the northern portion of it. i thought that was fairly strong and seems like a progressive move. of course we got excited a little early. today he was happy about the southern portion. >> now france canada has applied to build a new pipeline to speed oil from curbing to state-of-the-art refineries down in the gulf coast. today, i'm directing my administration to cut through the red tape, break through the bauer contractic hurdles and make this project a priority. >> deregulation, cut through government bureaucracy. sounds like a wonderful republican proposal. when you finish the southern half actually, the pipeline is completed. the northern half is another second option, but the whole pipeline would be completed. there are some progressives who
are not happy about that. dennis kucinich said this. >> slow down. what's the rush? we cannot trust the oil interests to do the right thing for the economy. i know that. >> i'm concerned the president no no, the oil companies have our best interests in mind. joining us now long time congressman, definitely long time progressive dennis kucinich. thanks for coming on the young turks. >> thanks, cenk, good to you with you this evening. thank you. >> we're going to talk about your race with marcy kaptur. i want to talk about the key stone project there speeding up the southern part, is that a disappointment tort president?
>> it's going to be for the consumers in the midwest. transcanada told the canadian government that the granting of the permit would enable oil prices to go up $4 billion or their profits to go up $4 billion a year in the united states, so how does that work? if you look at curbing oklahoma, they have ample oil. the midwest has been able to benefit from that. once that supply is drained to the gulf and then exported, what you're looking at, and this has been done by people other than me, this study saying that there would be an increase in the price of oil about 10 cents to 20 cents a gallon and out to be a concern to people in the midwest and nationally. this is going to increase the price of oil. what are we doing? we claim there is a problem with a lack of sufficient oil here and we're exporting more oil
feeding the speculators and see a cash in on the effect of the war to iran. >> that's a million percent right, southern part bringing the oil to the refineries in texas where it would leave the country. when they talk about we've got to have domestic oil here. why do we have it leave the country? we don't get the oil. congressman kucinich, this is of course let me be conservative here and say the disappointment the progressives have had with president obama. i'm curious what your thoughts are on the president's first term. >> it's all coming down to the economy. if we can get america back to work and that means millions more back to work, it will seem as though we've made somewhat of a recovery from the bush years
but there's a problem in doing that, of course, because hello high price of gasoline, and you know, the supply keeps some rinking here. the price is being manipulated and you have no viable jobs program. we could have had one a few years ago if the highway bill had passed, and you still have the fed calling a tune restricting job growth instead of increasing it which is what the fed is supposed to be all about. it's going to be a very close election, and hinge on the economy. i'm hopeful we can get more people back to work. if we can't it's going to be a disappointment for allot of americans. >> now you had a race with marcy kaptur and your district and herself of course both progressives were squished together and it was predominantly her district. she wound up winning. i want to show the audience your reaction from that night. >> i would like to be able to
congratulate congresswoman kaptur but i do have to say that she ran a campaign in the cleveland media market that was utterly lacking in integrity with false statements, half truths misrepresentations. >> those are some tough words congressman kucinich. why did you say that. >> i'm not going to back down, because that's what happened. i'm not going to use this opportunity on a national show to rehash what happened in cleveland. i am going to say that look, i've lost before. i accept that i lost. i probably have more defeats registered than most members of congress. i've lost eight times. it took me five times to get elect to congress over a 26 year period. i'm not a stranger to defeat. defeat often has blessings in disguise and i expect to have an opportunity to continue to make a contribution.
my problems minimal compared to the fact that we've got 10 million or more americans out of work, millions of americans losing their home, without health care, without opportunities for the future, without retirement security and my problems are small. i'm going to keep my commitments and continue in every way that i can, not just to be a voice but to be someone who pro proposes ways that we can move this country ahead. >> one quick further question on that. in that district, should the voters vote for marcy kaptur. >> i'm not going to talk about that at all. that race is over. i appreciate the fact that my old district in cleveland about three out of every four voters supported my campaign, and i think that's a credit to my staff, who did great constituent service and it also says that there is an understanding that i've represented people.
i'm grateful to have the chance and i want to thank the people of cleveland in this moment. >> let's talk about your future. some speculated that you might go to washington to run there the state of washington. any truth to that? >> there were people speculating that during the election in cleveland. think about that. there were people speculating that before the redistricting. maybe me wanted to get me out of cleveland. now that i've lost the election, i am keeping my options open. i'm not saying that i'm going to run again for anything at anytime soon but i certainly want to express my appreciation for those people across the country who have recognized the work that i've done over the many years, and that i hope to continue to work with people everywhere to try to help our nation and to help our world so for the cause of peace and sow yo economic justice that cause endures, elections come and go.
>> on that note, i couldn't agree more. we need every progressive voice out there because there aren't a lot of us represented in washington or in the power establishment, although we are the great majority of the country. congressman kucinich, thank you for joining us. >> cenk, thank you for the opportunity and thanks to everyone who's watching. thank you. >> all right. now, when we come back. speaking of progressives fighting back, the occupy movement says you know what, we're coming to your house. in this case, that house is the different branches of bank of america where they actually move in. watch. [ singing ] millions of americans losing their home, without health care, without opportunities for the future
in some way fraudulent. is that a large enough number for you? the list of fraud that bank of america has done is so large. let me give you one sense of it here. here's an exact quote. bank of america paid a $137 million fine for its sabotage of the government-contracts process. that used to be a terrible crime. bank of america does it, admit it pay a fine and they're free to go. they do it all the time. so, now, meanwhile, what do the republicans think? they think of course we were supposed to bail out the banks. look at mitt romney on the campaign trail. >> there was a fear that the whole economic system of america would collapse that all of our banks would virtually go out of business. in that circumstance, president
bush said they had to do something to make sure they didn't go out of business. i agree. >> matt taibbi from rolling stone is going to tell us whether mitt romney was right or not. i see you shaking your head already. go for it. is mitt romney right or wrong? >> i can see the argument in 2008 when the government was blind-sided by all the problems that happen and all these companies were in trouble lehman brothers and citigroup and goldman sachs and bear stearns, i can almost see the rationale of saving these companies temporarily. not only did they not go in and fire all the people responsible for this fraud, they continued to support the company for years after it was back on their feet. that's the most inexcusable part. they kept supporting it with billions and billions of dollars of low interest loans after that and that's the real problem.
>> so basically there were no strings attached, and you know, i think a lot of people look at that and from a simplistic point of view. they are all outstanding citizens making these contracts because they're geniuses. tell the people watching at home why you think bank of america among the others actually does fraud, things that are criminal and is not normal business that they should be rewarded for. >> let me just back up with that popular perception that these guys are really smart and making they are money honestly and they pay the money back. these banks are essentially getting their money from free. bank of america at one point owed the federal reserve $90 billion. they have that basically endless tap of zero interest loans from the fed. in banking the entire business
is about your cost of capital. if it's zero, it's impossible not to make money. they are getting money from the government lending it to us for mortgages or credit cards. how do you not make money when you have an endless supply that free money? that's what all of these banks have been doing all these years go to the fed get money lend it to us and take the cut. that's what they've been doing before we talk about the fraud. >> the genius they had was hey i got it, turns out i can buy american politicians and if i buy them, they give me free money and i can't lose. that's the only thing they figured out is that our system is unfortunately deeply corrupt. talk to me about the fraud and whether what they're doing is in some ways illegal or is corrupt. >> oh, it's totally illegal. firstly, you have to go back to the 2008, 2007, 2006, that period. what bank of america and all the
big bangs were involved with is a giant fraud no different than selling fake prada bags in the street. they were selling phony mortgages, taking really poorly poor mortgages, sub prime mortgages, very poor quality lent to extremely risky borrowers, disguising them at triple-a rated high quality loans, essentially lending out mortgages for everybody with a policy taking those lopes shopping them to unsuspecting unions and pensions and retirement funds as high quality securities. it was a giant fraud scheme. they were doing this all over the world. as part of these deals, they were required to buy back any defective or loans that were in default. that's what bank of america is facing now. they're supposed to be buying back these loans and are not doing it.
there was this string of outraged customers demanding their money back. >> that opens up two things, one is who they rip off. as you explained not explained nearly well enough in the rest of the media, it was the pensions. i've talked to the managing director of goldman sachs, she said that's the suckers at the tail. when you go to rob people, who do you go to rob? the average americans and their pensions. what did they do to the pensions. >> no, look, who bias these mortgage-backed securities. these big institution at investors. a very typical investor was a pension fund. the new york city retirement fund, los angeles county retirees, state of mississippi retirement fund, all these people went to bank of america and bath mortgage-backed securities that they thought were very high quality. what people need to understand is that the fraud on wall street, they think of some
abstraction, bankers ripping off other bankers inside trader scheme is a victimless crime they're essentially stealing your life savings. that's what went on in 2006, 2007, 2008 and beyond and they still haven't paid the money back. >> that's the case of the mortgages, ripping off the retirees. then the case of the municipal bonds ripping off the local cities and cities like jefferson county counties like jefferson county go bank result and everybody loses their money. they take the money from someone, it's us ultimately they take it from. as i'm reading your long piece here constantly, the theme that they come back to is there's never any consequences. they're in essence too big to comply, because they turn to the government and go what are you going to do about it. >> yeah, just this week, we found that the number one recipients of municipal bond business in america the number one and two companies are still
chase and bank of america. those two companies both have paid hundred million dollars settlements for bid-rigging. chase got caught in 25 different states rigging municipal bids and bank of america at least 88 different bids in different municipalities. this is not a victimless crime. if your town wants to raise money and issue a bond to build a new basketball court or a school and they're paying a million dollars instead of $3 million for their investment banking business, that money eventually is going to come out of your pocket. they're going to raise taxes to make up that money they didn't make from the banks. they're paying artificially low bids for these contracts, and they're doing it all over the country. >> like you wrote that's what the mob used to do. one last thing where does the money go, right? all these people get ripped off where does the money wind up? it's interesting in 2011, bank of america got over $20 million. it didn't pay eight taxes got a
billion dollars back. they got $5.4 billion in losses in the earlier year. well, the problem is they paid $35 million in bonuses and compensation. when you look at that, matt, isn't it obvious that the executives are just taking the money and putting it in their pocket and go oh, look at that, we had no profit, ha ha. >> absolutely, that's exactly what goes on. if it's not converted into profits and bonuses they just leave it offshore. that's another method of dealing with the tax problem. last year, bank of america add $17 billion in revenues that stayed offshore. if they don't want to pay taxes they just issue bigger bonuses and leave their money overseas and they don't pay taxes. they didn't pay a single dime last year or the year before in taxes, which is an extraordinary testament to the holes in the system. >> great job, thank you for
joining us. >> thank you cenk. >> this is one of the largest thefts in american history happening right under our nose and happening right now. that's something you got to know, not something that happened in the past. when we come back, here's more corporations screwing us over, for-profit prisons with the motivation to lock up more people. >> they were looking for the money. the people that were making the profit, the stock brokers were making big money to where me as a correction officer was making $10. millions of americans losing their home, without health care, without opportunities for the future without retirement security and my problems are small. i'm going to keep my commitments and continue in every way that i can, not just to be a voice, but to be someone who pro proposes
my god, this is one of the stupidest things i've ever heard! you got a bone to pick with that? the blood is in the water and the sharks are bipartisan. >> we are back on the young turks. on to another outrage, which is the for-profit prison system in this country. anna kasparian has a report. >> the associated press did this study to see whether or not for-profit prisons saved money for the state. of course, state legislatures say oh, they save the state so much money. that is actually not the fact.
the associated press found that the idaho correctional center actually cost the state money because what they do is first of all, they're funded not only by investors, also by the state and also they will cherry pick the type of inmates that they will take in. their contracts only allow inmates that are of optimal health. they have to be healthy so the health care costs are low. all of the sick and geriatric inmates are left to the state prison. >> some of our viewers emailed us and made a great point. it's the same thing they do with the high school system, setting up private schools take the kids that are easiest to deal with and go oh, look at that, we're such a more efficient system. what they do is they leave everything behind for the state to deal with, including processing all those people. >> absolutely, they have to process the people and the state is in charge of the administrative costs and they have to do with making sure these private prisons are
following all of the contract rules, so that also costs money. >> two points about that i thought were interesting. one, it's in their contract that we don't want any inmate that has mental problems or health problems. >> absolutely. >> well, yes, of course it's going to be easier to take care of those people and cost less money. and they cut people's pensions, et cetera. they had the costs you were referring to, second part of it, we have to maintain to make sure they are doing the right thing. there are some things the state can do this we can't contract out to private corporations. >> corrections corporation of america recently said look, during times of an economic downturn we experience no loss in revenue at all in fact, we make money when the economy tanks. during the presentation, they showed a graphic shows that in 2008 and 2009, they were making great revenue. let me tell you how much money
they made. they made about $22.7 billion in estimated annual growth and that was in 2010 alone. >> and then $2.9 billion is their profit, i believe. >> yes. >> so, you know, that's a healthy profit. by the way in that presentation, they say we have so much more potential. if we can lock up more immigrants, that will be more prison population for us. as i'm reading that, i'm saying look at incentive system, private corporations give money to politicians, then politicians give you private prisons and say hey, you know what, i need more prisoners, go lock up more people and that's us they're locking up. >> keep in mind that they do whatever they can to cut costs to raise as much revenue as possible. we have an example by a woman who used to work for a florida private prison, and brave new foundation did a great job interviewing her a whistle blower talking about what she experienced working at that
prison. >> if an inmate was hurt, he almost had to be dying to get medical because they didn't believe you. i had one inmate that was type two diabetic. he knew what he needed to eat his doctor on the outside knew what he needed to eat. they felt they knew it better and kept giving him taverns that he couldn't eat so they're looking to do things the cheapest way they can to make money for your higher echelon. if we were overbooked, they didn't care, they were looking for the money. the people that were making the profit, the stock brokers were making big money to where me as a correctional officer was making $10. i agree that the inmates were not being treated fairly. two weeks later on i was terminated, told i incited a riot. >> and of course, that's the way it works. you know what, you got to crush whoever you need to to make that extra buck. there's something the government needs to do and anna, great report.
we appreciate it. if you wonder why the politicians do that, they got $6.8 million from these groups in private lobbying. >> the republicans say we just improved key stone we'll have so many more jobs. >> stupidity number one, we need the jobs. now maybe we'll -- maybe when they're unemployed in november, they'll figure out jobs matter. bill press joins current's new morning news block. >> i know this stuff, and i love it. and i try to bring that to the show.
jobs! take it away! >> the president has apparently vetoed the key stone pipeline. it is a stunningly stupid thing today. >> because he has to bow to the most extreme members of the environmental movement, he turns down the key stone pipeline. >> it's essential that we have as much domestic supply of oil that we build the key stone pipeline to create the jobs that that would create. >> the canadian prime minister said if you don't want to build this pipeline to create 20,000 american jobs and bring oil through the united states to the largest refinery complex in the word in houston i'm going to put it straight west in canada to vancouver to ship the oil and you'll lose the jobs. >> it turns out that it was a study done by transcanada who wanted the pipeline.
he says oh, yeah, we assure you 119,000 jobs would be created. here's the only problem someone fact-checked that and we have that person on the show, lara skinner from cornell university's global labor institute. it's great to have you here. tell us if 119,000 jobs is remotely true in terms of the jobs created by key stone. >> we did a study of the jobs impact from key stone excel and found they had grossly overestimated the number of jobs that would be created by the project. >> shocking. >> yeah, shocking. transcanada, said it would create 20,000 direct jobs, we found 2,500 to 4,600 jobs per year over the two years these are temporary construction jobs. they also said it's going to
create 119,000 jobs, that's direct induced and indirect jobs. we found it's going to be 30% to 40% of that job. >> some of the material being used is not produced in this country, but luckily when the oil heads down to the refinery in texas i mean that's an american refinery, right lara? >> yeah, i mean, the problem is is they, you know, america needs a jobs plan, we have a major unemployment crisis, but key stone is not the jobs program or the job stimulus that transcanada and other proponents have cracked it up to be. the steel is the main material input for the pipeline. when we took a closer look at the jobs that would be created for manufacturing the steel 50% of it is being manufactured has already been manufactured outside of the u.s. so that's
creating jobs and economic activity outside of the u.s. >> when that refinery in texas half owned by the saudi government. >> right. exactly. >> all right, now one other thing i want to show you real quick is a map here of the key stone project p.m. the red is already built. that was part one. today president obama said we're going to build the southern part from oklahoma to texas texas right, that's where the half american half saudi refineries are. when you approve the southern part as president obama did, the pipeline is actually complete, isn't it? >> well, the key stone excel is a different pipeline down to the curbing refineries and would allow transcanada to transport 700,000-barrels of oil per day down to those refineries. then this curbing extension brings it all the way down to the gulf of mexico where it then can be exported.
>> all right, lara great information, thank you so much for joining us. >> all right. now, by the way so i want you to understand yes the excel pipeline is larger. that's the portion that is still blocked by president obama but the pipeline overall would be completely from canada all the way down to the refinery and out of this country. how do you like that for domestic production? >> when we return, updates on the trayvon martin case in terms of the rallies throughout the country that are in support and the petitions, it is bubbling all across the country. we'll tell you about it when we come back.
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>> we are back. we've got breaking news, actually on the trayvon martin case. the governor of florida and the torn general have removed the state attorney who's on the case. he has been removed and they are appointing a special prosecutor state attorney angela cory to handle the case going forward so that is a very interesting development. there's been protests all over the country, one in new york city in union square and lots of other protests planned across the country and then there are spontaneous actions being taken in miami high school simply walked out. >> breaking news out of miami gardens, where students at high school have walked out they say injustice for trayvon martin.
>> even though he didn't go here we still feel he is like our brother because he is the same skin color as us. >> all right now there's actually one in l.a. as well. our producer is there. how is it out there? >> it's picked up in the last 30 to 45 seconds. it's awesome. we got here 45 minutes before we were supposed to start and i was really worried about our turnout. we just started to chance, as you can see. >> all right. look man it's everywhere. it's sanford, in los angeles boston montgomery on saturday, chicago, atlanta d.c., philadelphia, kansas city on monday. people are outraged by this case and their outrage is leading to action. thanks for covering that out there. we went for a million this