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yinka adegoke, media corespondent for reuters thank you for your time. stay right here to enter "the war room" with jennifer grandhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdh >> tonight in the war room the occupy movement is back and going after a big target. then the battle for the youth vote. obama and romney court college students but who is the big man on campus? >> plus out spoken educational leader mineral rhe talks teachers' unions politics and what can be done to save our schools. all that and more just ahead inside the wat"war room." ♪ >> [ chanting ] >> we are here with protests.
this is wells fargo shareholders meeting, the beginning of a whole season of shareholder meetings where the 99% is going to protest. >> we can't get the buffett rule even voted on congress. so we need to let them know that we have the power, not the corporations f i am. not even washington. they all work for us. so we are just taking it back. >> i am jennifer granholm and you are in the war room. several hundred demonstrators took over the streets of san francisco today. police had to help shareholders enter wells fargo's annual meeting. at issue: the bank's lemming and policy on foreclosures. more than two dozen protesters were arrested. organizers say to expect more civil disruptions in the coming days as the occupy movement jump starts their campaign against the 1%. for insights into what happened today in san francisco at the wells fargo shareholder meeting,
i am joined by march' a poblet who is the executive director of just cause. thank you for joining us inside the war room. >> so today's protest, is it just the start of a whole series of protests that will be rolled out? what's the strategy? >> absolutely. this is the first time there is a nationally coordinated effort to bring together the 99% as a whole. unions, community groups occupy activists, very new activists, people losing their homes. all of us are coming together. wells fargo is just the beginning of a shareholder season of protests. the next one is may 9th, bank of america in charlotte. we, in fact, at the end of the march today went to bank of america and said "you are next." "it's interesting because these are external protesters. is there an effort to try to get shareholders to be protesting as well? >> sure. we actually had shareholders today at the wichita fallsells fargo meeting. we had protesters inside the shareholder meeting, in the lobby, locking the doors outside
and thousands of us outside in the streets. this is actually what's going to happen in charlotte, what's going to happen in cities across the country this whole spring. >> be specific. what do you want to happen? what are your demands? >> we have four demands. the first one is that we want an i am immediate "moreatorium on e fixus." they are a landlord and they don't respect tenant rights. the second is an end to predatory lending that happened and still happens that targeted black and latino people and in the form of payday loans is another way to make the same people poor again. the third demand is that they stop investing in private prisons that detain immigrants which is a dirty, dirty business they should have nothing to do with and the fourth demand is that they pay their fair share in taxes. this company is making multi-billions of dollars and they are not paying enough tax wildes. meanwhile schools are shut down and the problem is not that
there isn't money. the problem is that they are not giving it up. >> so in this lull that existed during the winter for the occupy movement, was there some sort of national consensus on these four issues? >> there was a regrouping. it's certainly what happened. the 99% was a way that we could all come together. a lot of unions communeity groups, folks that have been doing this kind of work for a longer time really joined in and connected with occupy activists to do this whole national push. we now have a coalition called 99% power, and this national effort is being anchored by those groups. >> the four demands: three of them relate to financial. the one regarding the prisons is a bit of a surprise. it seems like a little bit of an outlier. are you saying all of those companies who will be targeted are all investing in or somehow related to the privatization of prisons? >> that should be researched because i bet they are, but what we have today, those are the
demands on wells fargo. >> i see. >> there are similar ones on many of the big banks. a lot -- well, certainly all of them have their hand in foreclosures and kicking people out of their homes. most of the protesters are connected to the housing dmriesz some way. and then there is a lotcrisis in some way. and then, there is a lot. >> so the private prison investment is certainly something a group lie alec the american legislative exchange council is involved in. is there a way to partner up with the groups that have been targeting alec as well? will they be a folk us? >> sure. there is all kind of new connections, new relationships building in this 99% spring. this is us coming out of the winter and into the spring. the 99% are getting to know each other in the form of organizations, in the form of political protests. >> if it's too diffuse, you know what happens. right? everybody has criticism because they feel like they don't know what you stand for. so i was impressed that you came out and said we had four demands but if you get, you know, in politics, they say it's the rule of three. if you go beyond three, people
start to forget. so you know. if you want to have impact you have to be folk you see,000? >> sure but this is the third year we protest the wells fargo shareholder meeting. those demands have been ongoing. >> that's the strength with occupy working with other groups who have been working in oakland and excelsior. >> that's what led us to this demand around private prisons. our members, our community, are families. this issue of selling people a loan and then getting rich off of that loan and, also putting somebody in the detention camp. >> that's disgusting. >> maria, i appreciate your passion. thank you so much for joining us today, especially after you have had a long day on the battlefield. maria poblet with just cause. >> casa justa that advocates on behalf of low-income tenants. from the front lines of the occupy movement to the battle lines on the campaign front and today, the focus was on getting
the attention of young voters. ♪ >> you know i wish i could tell you that there is a place to find -- to find really cheap money or free money and we could pay for everyone's education. >> that's not going to happen. >> that's a clip from a new obama campaign ad that portrays mitt romney as uncaring and out of touch with america's young voters. they are hitting the student debt issue hard this week hoping to win the crucial youth vote. how big a deal is the issue for young voters? consider these stats: in 1999, all student loan debt totalled $90,000,000,000. 90 billion, 1999. today, it's $550,000,000,000. or you could look at it this way: the average student owes $25,000. speaking of students in north carolina today the president
pushed for the extension of lower interest rates on federally subsidized student loans. >> do went to the jack up interest rates on millions of students, or do we want to keep investing in things that will help us and help them in the long-term? things like education and science? >> curiously president obama found an unlikely ally on this issue: mitt romney. >> i support extending the temporary relief on interest rates for students as a result of -- as a result of student loans obviously. in part because of the extraordinary -- extraordinarily poor conditions in the job market. >> now, let's turn to primary education, k through 12. the obama administration has created the $4 billion race to the top program and provided another $10,000,000,000 in emergency funding to states after the economic collapse to help schools. but since then governors from
scott walker to chris christie and all sorts of others have slashed state funding for education, and now mitt romney is vowing to cut federal funding as well. here he is on fox news recently describing his plan. take a license. >> you said without qualification, quote we need to get the federal government out of education. does this mean eliminating the department education? >> not necessarily. it may be combined with other agencies. there will still be a role meaning for instance the federal government provides funding to local school districts for care of disabled children that will be maintained. but the reach of the department of education into the states has to be pulled back. >> so he wouldn't necessarily cut the department of education, likely because the last time he proposed eliminating it completely, back in 1994, ted kennedy ran this. earing campaign ad against him. >> kennedy, he has rewritten the
college loan program to hen 100,000 students. mitt romney opposes increased education, favors eliminating the department of education. romney: out of step with massachusetts. he lim nature the department of education? >> now mitt romney's back to paul ryan's plan which is projected to slash education funding by $115,000,000,000 over the next 10 years. now, for prospective on the state of k through 12 education in america in this political year i'm so glad to welcome michelle rhee founder of students first and former chancellor of the washington, d.c. public schools. michelle, thank you so much for come inside the war room. >> it is my pleasure. >> nothing is more important than education? >> that's right. >> so i am really excited to have you because this may come as no surprise to you but you have been a bit controversial. did you know that? >> absolutely. >> just a little bit. in fact, people i think have often been trying to pigeon-hole you. what is she? is she a republican?
is she a democrat? is she non-partisan? what are you? >> i am a registered democrat. i have been a democrat my entire life. but more important that my sort of democratic leanings is is that i am about kids. i am about any policy that is pro-children and pro-the families that are struggling every day to make sure their kids get a great education. so i have, you know i have supported things in the past that i am still -- i still do today that some people think are republican issues. i make the republicans mad when i talk about the need for regulation and national standards on the other side. >> you are making everybody mad. >> but at the end of the day, you know, i think that the partisan politics actually have to be put aside and we have to focus on a group of policies that are going to put children first. >> okay. we will talk about that in one second. it's really important to know sort of what works. but you have created this students first and you plan to
raise a billion dollars to invest in education. how does that affect billion get spent? >> the bill yon will be spent over about five years. so about $200 million a year. and what we want to do is mobilize our membership. we have about 1.3 million members so far. by the end of this year we hope to have 2 million members and what we want them to do is be active in these debates. right now, education doesn't get talked a lot about in politics. if you watch the republican presidential debates and that sort of thing, you see they really don't talk about education very often at all. we want education to be one of the prime issues. >> the issue. >> that's right. because there is nothing more important to the future of this country than school reform. >> and economic competitive, it all rides on education. >> absolutely. >> so some have said -- now even the title of your organization ruffled some feathers, student first because the suggestion was, of course teachers are putting students
first and the title, "students first" suggests they aren't. you have gotten criticism. i know you know. for those who are listening, from the unions. >> yeah. >> who have said that you havevillehave vilified them. there is someone, diane ravitch, an education clar and says, "attacking teachers seems to be her hallmark. if scores are low, she suggests it is because the students have lays incompetent teachers who should be fire -- fired. are teachers the problem? >> i think quite the contrary that teachers are the solution to the problem that we face. if you look at the research it is very clear that all of the in-school factors that exist, the one that has the most impact on student achievement levels is the quality of teacher in front of the kids every day so what we aim to do is make issure every single child has a highly effective teacher teaching them every single day. >> some have said the way to go about that that has been
criticized is the way you tie so closely student's performance with theirs'performance with their with teachers' evaluation and that it may ignore that you get students at all from all places and all times thatand that that link shouldn't be quiet as strong as you might otherwise suggest. >> yeah. >> talk about this. >> so we put in place a new teacher evaluation system when i was the chancellor in washington, d.c. for a very specific reason. when we -- when i inherited the school district we had 8% of our 8th graders who were operating on grade level in mathematics, 8%. yet over 95% of our teachers were being rated as doing an excellent job. how can you have that kind of a disconnect where every adult is running around believing i am doing wonderful work and what we were producing for our kids was 8% success? you have to have a system where those two things are more
closely aligned. and so we do believe that part of the teachers teacher's evaluation should be on how many their students grow. what we pit in place was 50%. the other 50% we believed should be based upon observations of classroom practice when teachers went above and beyond the call of duty, what we called contributions to school community and, to your point earlier, when we talk about 50% being based on how much their students grew academically we take into consideration the kind of students that individual teacher had. so we are not setting absolutely mark for everyone saying 90% of every teacher's kids have to be on grade level at the end of the year because some teachers inherit a classroom, you know, 95% of the kids on day 1 are on grade level and another teacher may inherit a group of kids who are 10% are on grade level. you have to look at the actual kids that came into that teacher's classroom at the beginning of the year. where are they at the end of the
year? how much did they grow? >> so in between there, in order for somebody to have so much of their performance appraisal based upon the 1250ud events' performance,stu events' performance, there has to be interventions to be sure best practices are used in the classroom. >> that's right. >> what are those? >> you have two to do things. one, control for factors that are outside of the purview of the teacher. so if you have to your point, lots of special education students or english language learners or socioeconomic challenged kids, you have to control out for all of those factors. at the end of the day, we have to make sure all kids can be successful. and so the questions around what are the interventions that are most promising, we've seen some come up in the last couple of years that are very technology-driven, and what the technology allows the teachers to do is individualize and differentiate for every child in their classroom, which is as any teacher will tell you is one of the hardest things to do. but when you have a technology platform that can keep track of
where every child in your classroom is in terms of their skills. >> obviously, data is critical? >> absolutely. >> but so are best practices in terms of pedagogy. right? >> absolutely. >> you have to have professional development dates. you have to have what? master teachers? >> absolutely. >> teamed up with others. you have to have somebody to learn from? >> it's not just that but we also believe that just like kids need individualized instruction, that teachers also need differentiated professional development development. the same thing is not going to work for every teacher. >> uh-huh. >> so what we tryied to develop in washington, d.c. was a platform by which teachers could say, okay. if my weakness is in this particular area i could -- you could -- they could go online and say, okay. i can take a class in that particular skill. i could go and watch another teacher, a master teacher who teaches down the road from me. i could spend a day doing that. i could attend a workshop.
i could do a series of readings. i could watch a couple of videos. you have to have multiple ways for teachers to access that. >> stay right there because we have more to talk about. michelle rhee coming up. we want to know what's wrong with the public school system. we want to explore further what is working? and how can we get more of it? we are going to tackle the solution to america's educational crisis. later, sometimes all of the well-crafted speeches and events in the world cannot beat a good late-night appearance. we are going to talk about politics of personal appeal. the big show tonight. we are just getting started. connect with us at current.com/thewarroom. and make your voice heard. we will be right back. you're about to watch an ad message created a current tv viewer for hershey's air delight.
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>> a listen. >> those federal teachers' unions have too much power. in some cases, they overwhelm the states overwhelm the local school districts. we have to put the kids first and put these teachers' unions behind. >> so that plus the -- you know the ryan budget which does propose the significant cuts to public education, the coupling of that a lot of organized labor, of course sees that as an attack on public education, an attack on teachers you have your teachers and are trying to be non-partisan or bi-partisan in a way and you have worked with some of the most controversial governors like governor rick scott. >> yes. >> governor scott walker which are -- how can you bring these all together? how can we have a conversation and a reality that supports teachers and supports students first? >> there absolutely is a way to
do it. you know like i said i am a life-long democrat and, you know sometimes it is tough to work with republicans. we didn't work with scott walker but we have worked and are still working with rick scott and i can't say that i agree with him on all of his economical policies necessarily. but i actually do think that education could be the one place where the republicans and democrats can come together on this issue and do exactly what romney said which is put the adults' interests aside and focus on kids. >> i think race to the top, for example, was one. most profound educational -- >> brilliant. >> it was brilliant because it got every -- just so that everybody knows, it got every governor who was hungry for money to change their standards to have national standards. so i want to talk about national standards. >> yes. >> you believe in them? >> absolutely. >> it is the only way we are going to be economically competitive? >> absolutely. i mean people talk about the fact that we should go to total local control.
and i totally disagree with that. >> it's absolutely ridiculous. you have to have -- there is a role for the federal government in education and there is a role for the local and there is a role for the state government in education and we just have to define what those things are. at the federal level, we have to have a set of national standards. we have 50 different sets of standards right now with 50 different tests and 50 different cut-off points for what grade level proficiency see looks like but the idea of kids growing up in san francisco are not going to compete against jobs in detroit or memphis. they will compete against jobs against the kids in china and india so we have to know how we -- how our kids rank internationally. so we have to have internationally benchmark standards and they have to be national standards. >> this is a really important message but what i really want michelle, is for you to be able to bring the teachers along, too. i mean i just don't want it to be seen as a battle. i think that the teachers want
to see that too. >> the teachers want to see it, too. and, you know, like i said we have 1.3 million members across the country. about 15% of our members are teachers. and they are reform-minded teachers and they know the system is broken and it needs to be fixed. and so i think that part of what has to happen is we are going to sort of come together and figure out some solutions around this is that we have to sort of get away from these polarized debates as i explained to you earlier, i believe that student achievement growth should be part of a teacher's evaluation. i said part. what people who don't like me so much is michelle rhee wants to evaluate teachers onsolely on the basis of test scores. that scares the be-jesus out of teachers and it should. >> what's the percentage. >> that's right. we should all agree there should be multiple measures in terms of how a teacher is evaluated,
including student achievement growth and then we can, you know, talk about whether that should be 40% or 55%. >> so you are a voice for both sides of the aisle andvillefy filified by some on the left. i have a twitter question for you from a guy named owed ward edward beginglen out of michigan asking for your students'first. do they think the federal defunding of education is going to help grow the united states economy like we are being sold it will do? >> i don't think defunding education is the answer to anything. but i also on the other side think that throwing more money into a broken system is not going to produce the changes that we want. what i think we need to do as a first step is look where the dollars are going. i can tell you from having run a school district that we spend a lot of money on things that are producing absolutely no results for kids. when i inherited the
washington, d.c. public school district we had a budget $1,000,000,000. what percent of that went into -- what part of that went into the classroom? only 450 million. >> where would you put your money? >> you have to put it into the classroom, into the school where it's going to have the most impact. you cannot have this floated bureaucracy and money going into all of these things that are actually making the classrooms into a place that are not well-funded. if you talk to any teacher in this country they will tell you they spend money out of their own pockets on supplies. >> i know? >> that's the craziest thing ever. >> yeah. >> we have to make sure that the vast majority of the funds get pushed down into the classroom. >> right. so if mitt romney asked you to be secretary of education, would you do it? >> i love my job right now. at students first. >> sounds like a candidate for vice president. >> i think it would be a crazy thing if if anybody on the republican side would want to,
you know -- >> has the president asked you? >> again, i love my job, and further more i think ari is doing a fantastic job. >> thank you so much for joining us. michelle rhee founder and former chancellor of the washington, d.c. public schools. up next don't let its 3 electoral votes full you montana is on the the political front lines from citizens united. governor brian switzer is entering the war room. >> that's next and it's only on current tv. behind thehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe
as real fire brand. if he thinks a piece of legislation is frivolous or unconstitutional, brian switzer has been known to brand it with a hot iron despite his occasional tough-guy stances, though switzer is a-- websiteser is schweitzer is known for walking across the aisle. he loathes the influence of big money and politics. he is leading the charge against the supreme court citizens united ruling and he presides over one of a handful of states that actually has a budget surplus. so it is a great pleasure to turn to new york city and welcome my good friend montana governor brian websitesschweitzer in the war room. i am looking at this guy who are you and what have you done with brian schweitzer. someone kidnapped him. what is going on? city sneaker has arrived. >> my dog isn't with me. he doesn't like to fly commercial.
yeah, and so i traveled all the way out here to new york city without my dog, and i am missing him. >> so what the heck are you doing in new york city? >> well this is great because now there is a non-stop flight that will be flying from newark to bosman montana. you have been to bosman and people don't have to stop in cincinnati and salt lake city to get to montona. we have about a dozen semi trucks driving around in the new york area with beautiful murals of those mountains that you saw with skiing glacier ter park with mountain goats. i was in time square today handing out jerky and huck he willberry and other products to get people to come to mon ton montana. >> that's so you, brian. wait a second. did you hand out your bolo? where is your bolo tie? >> as you know i have about a thousand bolo ties of every
shape and color and i was handing out bolo ties today as well. >> man, so all right. when i introduced you we do a lot on this show about the crossive influence of money and politics and obviously, you have been a strong voice on the citizens united band wagon. tell our viewers what you're doing to fight big money. >> well let's be frank here it was 100 years ago and a little more that at that couple of men owned all of montana, the anaconda company. they owned our legislature lock stock and barrel and all of newspapers. it was montana that went first and said, we can't allow corporate money to own all of our legislators. and so we said we are going to limit your ability to put money in these races and in montana, we can't take corporate money. you have this citizenship united position, and we had folks right away try to bring that stink from washington, d.c. into montana. of course we fought back. our attorney general, steve
bullock, he led the charge and we won at the montana supreme court. well now it gets back out there to washington, d.c. and, of course, it looks like they are going to roll over like fat dogs and get scratched on the belly. we cannot allow corporate money to own our politics. jennifer, i have to -- i have to get a big laugh out of this wal-mart, apparently is in big trouble because they are down in mexico. and apparently wal-mart has given some money to some political figures in hopes of getting some special treatment. really? and so now they have violated the american corrupt practices act. apparently you can bribe politicians in the united states but no place else in the world. what kind of a system is that? >> i totally agree. huge money. do you think we need a constitutional convention? do you think we need an amendment through a constitutional convention? >> well either -- either we do that -- either we reaffirm in our constitution that you can't
buy elections or we are in for a tough patch here during the next 20 years. because if we allow just the most powerful a few billionaires have decided who the republican no, ma'amminee will be. and a few more billion airs might just decide who the next president is, who all of senators are. we are going to decide who our governors are. and that means that you can buy any kind of influence you want in this country and that's not what made america great. >> have you noticed in your legislature -- we have been railing about those few guys buying through the american lecislative exchange council. have you seen the impact of that in montana's legislature. >> dang-tootin' they write these bills and legislators scratch out the name of the state and scratch out the bottom and put their name in. as you mentioned earlier, i vetoed 78 bills in the last legislative session. the old record in the history of montana was to veto 19 bills in
a single legislation. i ran out of inc. >> that's why i had to get the branding iron out and brand those dog-gone things. half of them came straight from alec. by the way, a good part of them were unconstitutional. and even the sponsors of the bills when they were challenged on the constitutionality, they say that's not my problem. i am trying to make a point here you say what is your point then? i thought you were sworn to uphold the constitution and now you know it's an unconstitutional bill and you are pushing it. >> i appreciate you saying that so that people can see from a governor's perspective how dangerous this is that these bills continue to come through these state legislators. how come you are able -- this is my last question now and i will let you get back to doing what you do in new york city at night. but how come you are able to balance your budget so easily when everybody else has such a tough time? >> well, back in 2006, 2011, most of the states -- i know
jennifer, you weren't in that situation because michigan went into this recession earlier than almost any other state. well, by the way jennifer i just want to say, good for you. good on you. you were right. you stood up and said we have got to save general motors. you, more than anybody, were responsible for making sure that we didn't allow them to just go broke and go away. >> i give the credit to the president, too. >> i am going to give credit to you. you stood up. the president stood up against congress but you stood up and said this is a great company. this is part of america, and this is part of america's future. so it was you and president obama that were correct. mitt romney, of course he said well, you know, this is the american way. if they go greek,broke, they go broke. i am grad to have general motors back. thank you for your leadership. >> i appreciate you saying that. you know,ists going to allow you to talk about your great resolving of your budget deficit but we ran out of time. >> that's a perfect last word if you ask me. >> that's governor schweitzer of
montana. thank you for joining us. coming up: what do hugh hefner and jimmy fallon have in common? today at least they both find themselves on the campaign front. we are going to head there next. later, brett erlich saves the day again. >> coming up i protect marco renew rubio from making the biggest stink of his as i understand it in radio they can't see you, so this is big for me. >>tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's new morning news block. >>it's completely inappropriate for television. >>sharp tongue, quick wit and about all, politically direct. >>politically direct to me means no bs, the real thing, cutting through the clutter. my show is the most important show in the world.
>> no matter how tough, no matter how many obstacles that may stand in our way, i promise you, north carolina there are better days ahead. we will emerge stronger than we were before because i believe in you, i believe in your future. >> as president obama on the campaign front making his pitch to college students at the university of north carolina today, he also taped an
appearance on nbc's jimmy fallon show where he promoted freezing interest rates for federal student loans. >> now is not the time to make school more expensive for our young people. >> amen. >> you know what he is doing there. right? he is slow-jamming the news jimmy fallon. the president just may have added campaign 2012's latest sur it surrogate. how office a candidate turn youthful enthusiasm into actual votes? i am beyond by donnie fowler who developed al gore's presidential came pain. he doesalt an awful lot of this stuff. welcome back into the regard womb. >> grade to be here. >> mitt romney pitting himself or i should say pulling the rug out from under the president on this student loan and interest rate issue. is that going to work?
>> at the end of the day, mitt romney's values are not the values of the mil en y'all generation. he is anti-gay rights against funding for education, pel grants. he just this moment came on the side of keeping interest rates for student loans, not for keeping kids on healthcare when they are in college or right when they get out of college. one little flipflop is not going to bring him in line with the young people. >> what about the 19iasm issue? democrats can't say we have it in the back for youth -- bag for youth. >> as you know, governor, you take nothing for granted in an election. obama starts with a 2 to 1 lead with young people in the polls right now. but as you noted, they don't look line they are as likely to turn out this year as they have for democrats in 2004, 2006, and 2008. >> is that a huge problem? >> it's a problem but it's a problem that can be fixed. the obama campaign is
professional, and they are committed and persistent and they will go and talk to young people especially in the battleground states and make the case. not only why the issues matter to them but why their vote matters and why they have got to pass the ballot. >> they have to get enthusiasm up. today is -- you would never know it but it's primary day for five states. >> the anti-primary. >> no surprise mitt romney ends up obviously -- we are not even covering it basically because it's so obvious. is there anything to even look at in this primary day? >> last week there was a poll that asked republicans who they supported for president and 54%, only 54% said that they supported mitt romney. so the thing to look for today in the northeast earn primaries -- nortis can he get more than 60 percent of the party when he is not run against anybody. >> romney, this whole strange? strategy on the part of the obama campaign to stick him on the conservative side rather
than flip-flopping. however, flip-flopping on issues has been noticed by entities as you know esteems as the wall street journal. i want to read to you a quote from the wall street journal. >> isn't it owned by the same people that own fox news? >> yeah. it seems in some people's minds. jane friedman writing in an op-ed for the wall street journal said if interest rates spike -- let me set this up. this is about the student loan issue. right? and the interest rate issue. what he says is if interest rates spike, taxparagraphs could be losing on every single new loan never mind the cost of defaults defaults. as for offsets, the white house and senate democrats favor a new tax on small business. if mr. romney can't provide a contrast to that idea republicans will know they are in for a very long campaign. basically, chastising him for falling away from the ryan budget essentially. >> right. for a party that says let's give tax cuts to the rich because they are the ones who
create jobs, they are taking away the ability of people to go to college who are the ones in the future that are going to create jobs in this country. so it's a short-sighted, ideological mistake to say make it harder for young people to go and graduate from college. it's hurting our economy. >> it will be interesting to see if mitt romney can actually pull people across pull republicans across in the house to see whether, in fact, they vote to keep that interest rate low. donnie is going to stay right here. don't go away. we have more to cover. hugh hefner escalates the war on women and ann romney opens up about mitt.
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idaho this proved to be political poison. women are paying attention and having their voices heard. >> thanks for coming in. >> the aclu considers a demand that to get a job you have to let an employer open your private mail, the senate wants to make it illegal to hand over a password to your facebook account. weeknights on current tv.
>> now is not the time to double your interest rates on students loan. it's time to double down on a strong and secure middle class and an america that's built to last. you and me, all of us we are here because somebody somewhere, starting with our parents or our grandparents or our great grandparents, they made an investments not just for themselves but for each other and in the future of our country. now, it's our turn. it's our turn to keep the promise alive. that drives me every single day. when i was running for this office, i said to people look, i will not be a perfect -- >> that is president obama speaking to university of colorado students about student debt tonight. i could listen to him all night. i am with donnie fowler the national field director for al gore's 2000 campaign. he is back with us. it's an amazing thing. you were saying in the break, first president to use the term "hashtag." "you can see why president obama still connects with the american
people in ways that governor romney has not figured out yet. >> for those of you who missed the initial part of it, he was putting out a hashtag, "don't double my rate" hash tag encouraging those who were listen to, you know, go post on facebook, post on twitter get their members of congress to be able to vote to keep the rate low. >> studkeep student loans somewhat affordable. >> hugh hefner writes in the "playboy" today that we just saw quote -- >> should i say i read it? >> you actually legitmately can say. >> if these zel on thes have their way, our hard-won sex annual liberation women's rights lie in peril. we won't let that happen. welcome to the new sexual revolution. does the right or left wing, when the battleground moves to playboy? >> republicans started out with
the war on chevrolet when they opposed gm's rescue and they moved to the war on women and now, they have the war on sex. so as a republican strategist alex caselono says when they dedeclared a war on sex because a lot of people like sex. >> i am just saying those youth votes, forget it. anyway ann romney addressed a bunch of supporters in connecticut. take a lookicense to what she said. >> in my darkest hour he stood by my side with my diagnosis of multiple sclerosis. he also stood by my side when i was diagnosed with breast cancer and i had to have that. i had to have him believing in me and trusting that i could do the right things and pull through this. >> softer side of mitt romney? >> good idea. >> ann romney for president. >> well, she is effective. >> she is good.
>> she is good. she is very effective. the question is: does it -- >> she is not the one that's going to be president. her husband wants to be president and he admitted on camera last week when he needs to figure out what women are i know this thinking, he is going to turn to his wife. wouldn't we want a president who could understand how to communicate with women on his own. >> interesting. donnie fowler thank you as always for coming inside the war room. up next, marco ruin yes's promising young political career runs smack into brett erlich. we will pick up the pieces after the break.
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