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michigan where he will tour a diesel plant and speak to middle class workers. he will push his plan to raise encloses above 250 -- to raise taxes above $250,000 a year. president obama met with house speaker boehner for the first time in more than three weeks. the house is still refuseing to pass obama's tax plan much less agree to other policies. josh earnest is not giving any details into yesterday's. some republicans are coming around on improving higher tax rates for the wealthy. bob corker said on fox news sunday, obama does have the upper hand on taxes. oklahoma representative tom cole said on cnn's state of a union if brought to a vote they would pass the house. that goes against speaker boehner's tone who seems to
believe obama's plan would not be able to pass both chambers of congress. as far as what americans think of the president right now that is pretty evenly split. the new politico battleground poll just out today has his approval rating at 50%. more than billcat bill press" is coming up after our break. join us in the chat room at current.com/billpress. see you there. viewer for capella university. matter. >> i work with adults with developmental disabilities. growing up i had a single mother of four and people in the community were so helpful when they didn't even have much themselves. seeing people and their hardships made me want to make a difference in people's lives to give them hope. receiving a masters degree would open the doors for me to get into a management position where i would be able to do more for people.
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show/billpress. don't forget there is sort of a parallel universe. you can be listening to the show, watching the show you can go to the chat room and you are in with your fellow people up early this morning or your fell other "full-court press"ers ready to talk about and debate the issues we are talking about here on the air. good to see you today. we have a lot going on. let's get right to it with our team, peter ogburn and dan henning. hello, guys. >> peter: good morning. >> is there any such thing as a happy monday. >> peter: when you are getting this close to christmas, yes, maybe because you know soon, you will get time off. >> after the giants win there is a happy monday. >> last monday wasn't so happy. >> bill: sip ran bowlding we have the sports paraphernalia.
>> look at him all dolled up. >> the redskins on. dan has the giants on. >> peter: where is your jersey? where is your sports gear? >> bill: in my vast wardrobe i don't have one -- i have a washington nationals cap. >> that's my sports paraphernalia. >> that's my sports gear. peters you have the winter hat with the washington football team, i know. >> bill: what do you mean? >> peter: a winter -- >> bill: a admit hat or something like that, the redskins. absolutely but the red skins pulled it off. i i saw that game and went to a holiday party and saw more of the game and it just looked to me like it was all over for the redskins. yes pay attention to it after that. what happened. >> it was unbelievable.
>> peter: he came back in. when i tuned in, there was about a minute and a half left. and he was hobbling around the field. he was still playing, but he couldn't -- he could barely walk. so finally, his knee just gave out and they brought him the back-up. curt cousins. >> bill: they go into overtime and larry michael -- so they are tied. they tied up in that last minute and a half, tied the ravens. larry michael takes it from there. >> the game in overtime, the forebat is on ready. the kick is on the way. it is a bull's eye. he hits it. the redskins victorious. they have won four straight. beating the ravens 31-28 in overtime. >> bill: 0, man. redskins, 4 in a row. >> peter: it was unbelievable.
they did an mri on rg's knee if you will. it looks like no ligament damage. he will be back up. i don't know if he is going to play for sure this coming sunday. they are playing cleveland. >> but it's not going to be a season-ending thing >> bill: and a good back-up. >> peter: he was good. he didn't suck. the redskins usually start sucking right around now. so -- >> bill: that's the best we can say: he didn't suck. hey, 11 minutes after the hour now. so secretary of -- secretary of labor -- started to say secretary of labor. not yet. hilda solis will be in studio to talk about the phenomenal job numbers on friday. dan stone with national geographic in california on a very interesting trip out there. he is going to tell us all about it. the discoveries of new innovations in california ol
many different fronts and julie mason with poddus channel radio. you are all friends of bill. you but first: >> this is the full court press. >> other headlines making news on this monday, the two australian radio djs that will page called the hospital have broken silence since the nurse that fell for their hoax they apologized this morning for the incidents. the southern cross radio company says the prank call was cleared by company lawyers and they did not break any laws. but police are investigating. >> bill: such a sad, tragic ending. >> peter: bizarre story >> bill: a prank call. a lot of radio stations have done for years and years and years. >> all it, it was. >> joe biden was out and about. >> costco. >> no, at a football game
attending the army/navy. the mid shipment defeated the black knights, 17-13, presenting the commander in chief trophy to the secretary of the navy and the superintendent of the naval academy. >> bill: i can remember when that was a real contest. now navy rolls over army year after year. >> the american beerland -- >> bill: you would think army would have the ground game? >> peter: you would think they would have a better ground game. >> bill: given what they are all about. >> the mere beer land scam has changed. >> bill: when do they play that game? >> when? on saturday? philadelphia. it was in philadelphia on saturday. >> bill: i forget the name of the stadium. >> the american beer landscape has changed with craft beers and continued heavy advertising from the big commercial companies. so there are several beer that we just don't drink any more:
24/7 wall street.com took a look at the beer. it was the biggest sales drops over the last five years, michelob being a 72% drop in sales in 2006 -- since 22006, ahead of michelob light with the a 66% drop. other big losers in the top 10 include milwaukee's best, amsteel right and miller genuine draft. >> people are going to dogfish and anchor steam. tough. >> so many local craft beers. >> bill: absolutely. do you to oregon or, you know just the choices are endless. >> peter: i was amazed, you know, every state now has a good, local craft beer. we even have one in the district of columbia now. >> bill: really? >> peter: in the district. dc brow. you are sort of a sucker if you are going out and buying the big-name beers because it's what has always been around.
>> bill: bud light >> peter: people still buy bud light. >> bill: hinekens. >> if you are going to have a party with a bunch of people that you don't know, you probably can't go wrong getting something like bud light or budweiser because, you know, you might -- you might be afraid there are some moreons that don't no betterons that don't no better >> bill: the supreme court friday jumping with both feet. they were expected to. at least it was a question about whether they would jump or not because back in the civil rights days, the supreme court, it was decades before they agreed to hear any case about mixed marriages racially mixed marriages. the supreme court did not hesitate, given the opportunity to jump in to the same-sex marriage question. marriage equality questions to
say, they jumped in with both feet on friday and agreed to hear two cases, two related cases, but that set the stage for a historic decision by the supreme court. actually the question we should ask ourselves this morning is, is this issue over? is the -- is this issue as a political issue, has the wind gone out of sails of the anti-same-sex marriage debate? i think it has. 866-55-press. you tell me. first of all, so the supreme court, two cases, one of them has to deal with whether or not two men or two women, two people of the same sex should be allowed to get married. this is a california case brought by ted olson and david boyes who were the opponents in the 2000 recall legal battle down in florida. the second case the supreme court took has to do with the
defense of marriage act signed by bill clinton shamefully in 1996, which defines marriage under federal law as one man/one woman. but since then, there has been an amazing turnaround in public attitude and public acceptance of same-sex marriage. remember just a few years ago, there were, like 10 or 11 constitutional amendments up in the same year inch 10 or 11 states put on there by right-wingers who were using that as a way of deriving conservative -- driving conservatives to the polls. it was when george bush first ran, they could get the him elected overall gore or whatever. but did he have a huge success for the same-sachsey -- anti-same-sex marriage people.
there are nine states which allow recognized same-sex marriage, massachusetts, iowa, vermont, new york, connecticut, new hampshire. i think hawaii is on that list too. one, two, three, four, five. and the district of columbia plus the state of this year just added, maryland and washington plus, remember the president of the united states himself, who used to be on the fence on this issue has now come out and said he full ly sports same-sex marriage. the obama administration has refused to defend the defense of marriage act. john boehner and eric cantor are still doing it, but the administration is not. the department of justice is not. they said they don't believe in the defense of marriage act any more and they wereare not going to defend it and they hope congress over turns it.
george will said here is one of the reasons why politically it has changed. >> they can say it's now safe to look at this because there is something like an emerging consensus. quite literally, the opposition to day garianingmarriage is dying. it's old people. >> it's old people. they are dying off. >> that's an accurate way to put it. >> bill: you talk to young people today. they don't have a problem with it at all. no. you know. i mean a lot of older people too, and a lot of -- but -- and a lot of republicans and democrats. you know why? it's your brother. it's your sister. it's your cousin. it's your aunt. i mean these are family members we are talking about. they are not martians and more and more people recognize yes there are lgbt people in my family, and i want them to enjoy all of the rights and opportunities that all of the rest of americans do. it's as basic as that. so do you think this issue -- but let's not kid ourselves. there are still 31 states, 31
states which have a constitutional amendment saying marriage must be only between one man and one woman. it will take a long time to turn those states around unless the supreme court rules. and i think the supreme court will rule. i think it will rule to affirm and uphold and to endorse same-sex marriage. there is no other way they can rule. i don't think there is any other way they could rule under the bible, by the way. the most popular form of marriage is polygamy. so don't use the bible. the supreme court's foundation is the constitution. the constitution is clear. every american enjoys the same rights, equal rights across the board. it doesn't matter whether you are gay or straight. it doesn't matter if you are black or white. you are an american. you enjoy the same rights. there is no way in judgment no way the court can uphold can do
anything other than uphold same-sex marriage. they can not endorse discrimination in any way. so has this issue really politically turned on its head? is it now just a matter of time before the supreme court rules and same-exception marriage is the law of the land? i believe so. marriage equality. it has to happen. 866-55-press. it's going to happen. 866-557-7377. do you think politically it's all over? let's talk about it. >> this is "the bill press show." >> together we can get new yorkers back to yelling at strangers and ignoring our friends. current tv presents a special event. >> nobody knows disasters like comedians. that's why for my upcoming benefit for victims of hurricane sandy, i booked the strongest, smartest comics i could find. my comedian friends and i will raise money to rebuild homes and
>> heard around the country and seen on current tv, this is "the bill press show." >> bill: you bet. 25 minutes after the hour. the supreme court, it's going to be interesting to see how we -- we know how scalia and clarence thomas and samuel alito will rule but where will john roberts come down? will he begin be the swing vote? how about anthony kennedy? i think it's only a matter of time. and the supreme courters of the marriage equality are saying by independence day july 4th, we ought to know whether or not the constitutional -- the states that have banned same-sex marriage, whether that will be ruled unconstitutional. peter, what have you got on before we go to the phones? >> we are tweeting @bp show. find us there. miro lo we tweeting us my favorite defense, she says yes to gay marriage. everyone should have the same
opportunities to be miserable. now is the time. i agree wholeheartedly. jessica tweeting us. >> bill: careful what you ask for. you might get it >> peter: saying the fact you can't sell your daughter for three goats and a cow means we have already redefined marriage. we are tweeting @bpshow. >> steve calling from dallas the texas. hey, steve. good morning. >> how is it going? >> first up. >> i am a first-time viewer. love the show. >> bill: great to have you on board. thank you. >> i wanted to say, to me, i have no problem with same-sex marriages. my whole thing is this is a subject that just needs to be put to rest. i mean i want to get to the bigger issues, the more issues, which is my economy. i want to know what's going on with that, where we are going to go from here. >> bill: yeah. caller: to me, it's more important than whether jimmy and johnny want to get married. >> bill: steve, i am so glad
you said that because i think most americans -- at least more and more americans feel that way. right? let's focus on what's important in our lives. right? caller: it's either that or big bird. >> peter: the big issues. >> bill: all right, steve. good to hear from you. now, let's hear, you know, now that you are with us one day, stick around for a while. barbara on the west coast in seattle, washington, what do you say, barbara? caller: well, i tell you i talked to conservative relative of a relative. and i asked them this evening, i said, did the moon come up? they said, yeah. no dogs barking? no nobody running out of their bedroom yelling, the gays are married? i said, well if god is isn't having a problem with it why are you guys having a problem with it? >> bill: yeah, no. listen, great, great comment.
and, you know, also, the idea that if you allow the gaze to get married, it's going to destroy traditional marriage yeah. i think straight couples are doing a good job of destroying traditional marriage on their own, with the divorce rate. >> peter: exactly. >> this is "the bill press show." [ music ]
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engine. >> peter: gene starwin says all marriages are same-sex. you get married and it's all the same sex. thanks, gene. tweet us at bbshow on twitter. >> bill: ask david petraeus. yeah. now, this other story, we haven't finished all you have got to say, i am sure, about marriage equality. but this story caught my attention, also, over the weekend. again, mitt romney sold himself as: i am the bids man. i know how to run a business. i know how to make every dollar count. i know how to get rid of waste and fraud and spend my moneywise moneywisely. you can trust me unlike that big spending obama. the numbers are out, comparing the campains, the two campaigns into how much money they spent and how well they spent their
money. and obama wins that contest hands down. it turns out that the romney campaign was spending money like a drunken sailor if we can still use that phrase any more and wasting it on stuff they should not have been wasting it on and paying an inordinate salary to their staffers which does get you back to the question of -- first of all, let me give you some of the numbers here here. one big difference between the campains. the romney campaign spent a lot of its money on direct mail and telemarketing. the obama campaign spent its money on grassroots on getting people out to vote on lining people up. they did it for four years. it was a ground operation. it's really credited with giving president obama such a big win. romney spent $48 million for direct mail and $36 million ol tell marketing and robocalls
which just doesn't work anymore. >> how did that work out for you? >> bill: who takes though robocalls anyway? everybody, i think, with any sense just hangs up or they look at their caller id and don't accept it. spooeshtsz it seems to me that is a very outdated. >> bill: romney just blew all kind of money on that. they had a -- president obama had a technology team had his own people provide that service for the campaign. romney went out of house and hired a team. he paid them $67 millions. two companies tied today mitt romney's son, tag, bgl.l.c. and
s. j.z l.l.c. his finance chair is spencer switch and his son of course tag have connections to those two companies. they they, they were paid $24 million for finance consulting. tag got $12 million out of the campaign, out of his daddy's campaign >> peter: for finance consulting. >> bill: finance consulting. so these guys were taking mid romney for a ride. >> peter: i am not a financial consultant but i can give you this advises don't pay 20 something million dollar for financial consulting. >> bill: especially, wait a minute. i kept coming back to it. this is mitt romney who has the high -- to hire a financial consultant. now, on their just regular staff salaries all right?
17 romney staffers made -- 17 made more money than obama's highest paid stamp. staffer. 1 walked out with 37 tleechl,$000. these guys only won from the time he won the nomination. so basically four months' work. right? when did he lock up the nomination? give him six months maybe. one guy $360,000. nor another 330,000, another $320,000. and finally stewart stephens who was the chief strategist for the campaign has a little company that was paid -- okay? for the tellevision advertising,
$173 million. now, that goes off into t.v. advertising, but the point is stewart stephens in addition to his salary gets 15% of that. >> whoa. >> for being the conduit for the ad. so, you know, >> peter: in addition to his salary? >> bill: right. so the whole picture to me sayssays a couple of things. first of all, about military romney ain't the good businessman that we thought he was. right? he was certainly not on the top of the way they were spending money. the other thing it says about these campaign consult ants i think it is important for us to recognize recognize. they are in it for the money. they are not in it out of loyalty to the candidate. they are not in it because they believe in the cause. they are in it for the money. it's not first case. i have known other people like this who run losing campaigns and make so much money they never have to work again. stewart stephens, he is on msnbc now. he has his ticket to ride plus
he's got 15%, $173 million >> peter: take the money and run. >> bill: yeah. yeah. i am not saying i feel sorry for mitt romney. all i am saying is one of the -- certainly one of the factors that contributed to his loss is that he was spending money, too much money on stuff he should not have spent money on and his staff was robbing his blind and he let it happen. president obama ran a tighter, meaner leaner machine. >> peter: absolutely. he knew how to spend the money. >> bill: who says republicans know how to spend their money. daniel stone from national geographic has been in california for the last week or so on a very interesting trip for national geographic looking for new innovations in agriculture, in energy, in home-building and transportation and lots of different areas in
california. he's up early on the west coast. he is going to tell us all about it and some of the exciting things he found and stuff that starts in california spreads across the country pretty fast. so we will look into the future with daniel stone next here on the the full court press. >> radio meets television "the bill press show" now on current tv. museum honest. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us.
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actually, it's kind of a drizzly day. cold yesterday cold and rainy all day long but what the hell? we made the most of it. red skin won. "full-court press" coming to you live from our nation's capitol this monday morning. in the next hour julie mason from seriousirius xm poddus channel is going to be here as a friend of billus channel is going to be here as a friend of bill bill. and buzz feed to talk about the supreme court's decision to tackle two same-sex marriage cases which they will in this new term. as i mentioned just before the break here, tan yellow stone who covers energy and environmental issues for national geographic graphic on a very interesting mission to california to look for new innovations in california and for agriculture, transportation and housing and energy, a all kind of different
areas. he is up early on the west coast in the santa cruz, california. daniel stone, good morning. >> good morning, sir. it's not so early. >> bill: you are in santa cruz. you know the pot heads are up all night long. >> that's true. when in rome. right? >> peter: really? how committed to that are you? >> not entirely >> bill: you are on the kind of final swing of this tour? dan: i have been on the road for almost two weekends here i started in san diego went all the way up to the oregon border. now, i am heading down the coast. >> bill: up in eureka? up in that area? dan: redding shasta county and drove to the coast and now past san francisopen, pala alto and santa cruz on my way to l a. >> bill: i know you have been looking at lots of different
projects. i have been reading some of your blogs and articles from there. what's most exciting thing that you found? dan: there have been some really different ones. probably the most despiting is i went to a gold mine that people say can be sustainable in california. and any type of mainly is not usually sustainable. yes even know the extent to which gold mining still happens in california but we got to go in the mine and check out how this sort of mining can go on for the next 100 or 200 years. it was that interesting. >> bill: there is that much gold left? dan: there has been about 20 million ounces pulled out of the earth since the california gold rush. people expect that there could be -- geologist expect there is about a hundred times that yet to be explored with modern technology. >> peter: you are get it. >> bill: gold rush of 2013. dan: exact. >> bill: what's different about this kind of mining? dan: you can go deep in the earth.
when you had people coming out here in the 1850s and 1840s they were panning gold and looking into rivers. now, you have these machines that can drill large tunnels, not very deep and not very far. it's not like coal mining that you have to blast away mountains and you just pull up large boulders, you grind them up into dust and get the feingold powder. there is a lot of hills that have yet to be drilled in northern california, which is a pretty rural area. >> bill: is this all in the gold rush? i mean i know that area pretty well north of sacramento and northeast of sacramento? is that the area we are talking about? stinks yeah, right up in shasta. i mean not many people go there. also right around that area took a lot of tiny houses the epicenter >> bill: what is it tiny how tiny are we talking about? dan: it starts around 100 square feet up to about 250 square
feet. >> bill: smaller than this studio. stinks smaller than most people's closets or bathrooms, but, you know, people trade in their large mcmansions for these small houses. we took a look at a few of them and what that means. some are small but people say you have to be more efficient, more creative with how you decorate them and the people who lived in them and say you can be a lot happier. >> peter: yeah. right. >> bill: seriously, do they have indoor plumbing? stinks some of them-- dan: some of them do. >> bill: backwards in time here. are people living in these houses? dan: a few people r these tiny houses. they are not so small when you think about what you can do with that amount of space gu we went in san francisco in the city to a micro development housing unit. these are apartments being built that are about 250 square feet. >> bill: not studio apartments.
families are living in them? dan: it's for one person, maybe two, not really for a family but, you know, in san francisco very high-rent. if you could cut your apartment in the rent to cut your rent and a half, it's not for everybody but i think a lot of people would do it. >> bill: right. how about the -- you and i talked before you left, did you get a chances to along at the high-speed rail project? dan: i talked to some california policy experts about high-speed rail and where the station are going to go and what exactly needs to happen to put in the core dors. it was interesting thinking about that farm land connecting sacramento down to l.a. would happen. there are proposed routes to las vegas. we are stalking at least five years off from seeing those corridors, but a lot of people are very much for it and you have a lot of farmers that are very against it. it's a controversial issue. >> bill: dan stone, energy and
environmental reporter from national geographic. follow him online at nationalgeographic.com and follow dan on twitter all about his trip into california@natgeodan. >> peter: he is sending up great pictures from the road. >> bill: you were at davis, graduated from davis which is the best agricultural school probably in the country. you know, what's that's their most exciting new tomato or grape or whatever? dan: we went a few places in davis. probably the most interesting was a developer of organic pesticides. so growing organic fruit with pesticides. >> bill: no. no. organic fruit does not have pesticides. stinks these are called organic pesticides because they find, you know microbes or funguses
in different parts of the world and try to find out what could kill weeds naturally or organically and taking something and it's not commercial pesticides, chemicals that have been untested. these are ways you can maximize your yields >> bill: letnate do its thing? dan: right. we also went to animal library at davidson. this is creepy a library full of dead animal, taxiderny. but it helps researchers know what animals exist and make conservation plans to try to save the existing ones. >> bill: i am jealous. sounds like fun to me plus you are learning a lot and sharing it with all of us. we appreciate that. thank you for getting up so early in the morning. now, you know, go back to bed. dan: thanks. you can come out and do the nect one with me. >> bill: we will see you in studio when you get back.
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new jersey. here he is yesterday on cbs's "face the nation". >> i am considering running for governor. i will focus on that for the next week to 10 days or so. >> booker is also considering a run for senate in 2014 and said he will base that decision on how he can make the best difference for the city and state he loves and the nation he has pledged his life to. booker also talked several other serious issues like the impact of hurricane sandy and the upcoming fiscal cliff. he said he beliefs the president has a balanced approach and draconian cuts would hurt growth but the nation needs to take spending seriously. >> we need to do things that will control these costs or forget it, the next 1020 years will -- the next 10, 20 years will see a global decline. >> not much time before the automatic spending cuts kick in. congress and the president are running out of time.
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it is monday december 10th. can you believe it? boy, now he willing we have to say what? 14 days left? shopping days until christmas? is that it? 2 fobth? >> peter: unless you want to shop4th? >> peter: unless you want to shop shop christmas. >> "full-court press" coming to you life on current tv and on your local progressive talk radio station. it's good to see you this morning, especially good to see our good friend julie mason, host of press pool ol sirus xm. >> thinking bill. >> channel 124. >> gentlemen >>. >> yes. >> people ask me? you are on one hour? >> that's a sore point. i can't remember. if you asked me right now, i couldn't tell you.
i think sirius is 147. dan: 127. 127. we had an hour. >> bill: we had an hour. as i was saying, nice to see you. good? >> everything is great. >> bill: you know, we have the whole team here, as always, brought them in just for you. peter ogburn >> peter: they normally keep me out here. >> only allowed in here if i can supervise. peter's birthday and mine as well. isn't that sweet? peters not today. this week. >> bill: well are happy birthday. happy birthday to you both. we have a big luncheon planned at the palm on wednesday. >> peter: i almost nailed t my birthday is the day after. >> fancy. >> peter ogburn and dan henning. peters i demand nothing less than sitting underneath bill's
picture. ever. >> a washington tradition, bill. >> every year, he says maybe we should go somewhere else. i say, no. we are going. >> and the caricature at off the record yet? >> phil bachus has the phones and cyprian bowlding celebrating the redskins' victory last night. did you hear, there has been -- there is a deal. president obama has agreed to a deal and he said on saturday night live, he agreed to a deal because he felt sorry for john boehner after what boehner's republicans in the house did to him. here is how he explained it. >> now despite all of this i wasn't going to make a deal. despite everything they put him through, i was willing to hold fast but they all changed on thursday. because on thursday this man, this grown man was pushed into
the congressional ladies' wash room naked from the waist down. they held me down and took my pants. >> they held down and took his pants. and he had to stand there in front of his female colleagues. one hand covering his genitals the other trying to cover his butt crack. neither hand succeeding. >> bill: to hear that in the obama voice is perfect >> bill: to picture john boehner in that embarrassing position. i don't know. >> it's just plausible enough. >> bill: it is. the only thing that is unbelievable about that is that there is a ladies' restroom. there may be one. right? in the entire building. >> it's impossible to find. >> bill: we have heard a lot of complaints about that.
i hope congress has made some adams now that there are more and more women in the house. >> here they come. >> julie mason is here this entire hour. chris geithner will join us to take of up two cases dealing with marriage equality. in the next hour secretary of labor, hilda solis in studio to talk about those job numbers on friday that looked pretty good. julie we will get to it but first dan with the big stories of the day. >> this is the full court press. >> other headlines making news mitt romney got out of the house, he and ann were supported in las vegas ringside at the big mannypac pachio. he had a weird interaction. >> romney had an interaction with another human? >> bill: another lose her. huffington post reports he introduced himself in the locker room saying, hello, manny.
i ran for president. i lost. >> bill: thafrmingdz for stopping by. >> sad sad. >> >>. >> some of my best friends are professional boxers. >> joe manchion is not happy with the new buck wild reality show that takes place, manchion said he is repulsed by the let program in the state that the live by the mano that whatever happens happens. >> i almost got that tatoo in college. >> he says he is disgusted mtv is trying to profit off of coaxing the cast into shameful behavior. >> bill: i can't wait to see this program. i have seen a couple of the pilots, promos. >> peter: it looks so good so
full of redneckery. i don't think they needed coaching into doing shameful things. >> in sports, quite the day in n.f.l. action yesterday, key gains, play-off hunting washington redskins beating ravens in overtime after rg3 was taken out. an mri shows he will be okay. also, the super bowl champion new york giants beat the saints 52227 but no better score than the seattle seahawks did he have feeding the arizona cardinals 58 to nothing. >> bill: doesn't there come a point where the coach says -- >> a mercy rule. >> bill: we are just going to lay back and put if our fourth string or something like that? no? >> peter: i guess not. i guess he wanted to prove a spoipt. >> bill: julie so good to see you this morning. >> thank you. >> i was on the holiday party rounds and there was a lot of buzz, political buzz here in the nation's capitol, which i would love to talk to you about.
let's start with susan rice. we saw and spent some time with her at the party. everywhere i go, people ask me: is the president going to nominate susan rice for secretary of state after what she's been through? >> i am not sure he wants that fight but he's got to -- if he does he want, he has to find something else for her to do, some other big job for her to do if he doesn't go that route. >> bill: i agree. first of all, i hope he -- percentage, i hope he does because i love to see him take on the fight and humil "john mccain and lindsey graham but at the same time, i have to say it's sort of not his style." right? >> right. no drama >> bill: a lot of people are thinking, why would he want to spend his political capitol, all he has got, a lot of what he's got the right now in the early days of his second term, second term on this. it seems he might look for something else for her to to do.
>> what could that be? it would have to be a cabinet position. >> bill: national security adviseo. >> if janet non-gaapapalitano moved somewhere else >> bill: there is a little domino effect here i am a huge susan rice fan. i think she has had a raw deal. she had nothing to do with security in benzghazi. if it's not susan rice as secretary of state. >> john kerri. right? >> bill: i think so. >> doesn't the party owe him? doesn't barack obama owe him? >> bill: i think so, and i believe he would sail through. >> yeah. yeah. yeah. >> getting through. in the opens up a senate race in massachusetts and some democrats are saying we can't do that because that means scott brown
would automatically get in. would he? >> no. not necessarily. although i think he would do better in a experienced election than a general election. he obviously has campaign apparatus, name id, et cetera, et cetera, thru br other candidates. it's not a slam dunk for him at all. >> if you look at it it's a different time than when he first ran. >> uh-huh. >> and won. he's been there six years. however -- four years? >> four years. >> bill: but a different time. he would be up against a different candidate? >> uh-huh. >> it would have to be a better candidate than martha cokely and et cetera tarnished by having lost to the elizabeth warren? >> he would have to run again? when is kerri's term up in three years, massive campaigns. >> deval patrick and ed markey
veteran very popular powerful congressman, the 9th most powerful in terms of seniority who represents greater boston cham champ bridge area. he would be a formidable cabdate. >> and cot brown would like to move run for governor. they have a history of republican governors even before mitt romney, bill weld a bunch of others. >> that's not unheard of. >> it wouldn't be necessaryily the end of the world in terms of senate for president obama to appoint john kerri as secretary of state. now we get to secretary of defense. the buzz in washington on the front page of "the hill," a republican, chuck hagel, former senator from nebraska. >> a per en y'all bride's maid. enial bride's maid. >> i heard from two people who
pretend they have good sources in the defense department michelle floronoy said president obama wanted to appoint her as defense secretary when robert gates left but felt he couldn't have. this is such inside washington. development we love this. >> waiting for someone to mention sam nun's name the obligatory sam nun mention. >> talk about bride's maid but wanted to nominate her. felt like he couldn't have one at state and one at defense in his first term. but now he can do anything he wants. >> gloves off >> bill: so he could have susan rice and michelle flornory or chuck hagle. i like chuck hagle a lot. i remember when we thought he was going to run for president. >> uh-huh. >> then he had that news come friends. come on. yeah. do you think these -- timing we will know before the end of the year? >> yeah i think it will start
leaking out pretty soon. it's got to. yeah. but president obama's so locked into having a big legacy a big meaningful legacy action i think he will go with flornoy. what a gesture that would be female defense secretary. something to leave to posterity. >> bill: in the press corps that you used to be part of? >> i am still. >> bill: everybody thought last friday we were going to find out. i would say by next friday we % will know. >> you know, holidays coming up. >> bill: yes. and speaking of holidays, is john boehner is spending a little holiday time at the whitehouse. he wasn't there to see the decorations. what do you think this means? anything? so unscheduled meeting between the president and the speaker, just the two of them, one on one, sitting down at the whitehouse yesterday. does it mean anything? >> it gives me hope. it does. i think these two are going to work out a framework, plan in
presence and let the staff fill in the gaps in it and present it, try to get it through. >> bill: isn't it interesting to you that both put out a statement, they both put out the identical statement, the identical statement with, like one liners saying, the lines of communication are still open. >> that's unusual. >> what's unusual is how little of this processes is leaking out. usually, from the staff level, we get so much. you remember when the treasury secretary went up to the hill last week or the week before and presented a secret plan that i think people were tweeting it as it was being presented. we were getting it in realtime. but when president obama and speaker boehner get together, it's locked down which gives me more hope. >> should we have any hope there will be a way to get around the fiscal cliff. julie mason, our guest.
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december 10th. from press pool on sirius xm podus channel, julie, an eye on the social media world rallied for us. >> with people up >> peter: tweeting at bp show corey booker new york mayor and on face the nation over the weekend and he did not rule out he is going to run for either senate or governor of new jersey. >> bill: here is bob schieffer asking him about maybe running for governor and corey booker says don't limit me to that. here he is. >> thinking about both offices right now and which one can i better serve on the issues i am passionate about and the things i feel driven to contribute to. >> bill: popular, good mayor, going up against christie? >> have you seen the polls? cory booker would get
slaughtered. i am sure he wants to do good but he would have a better shot at winning the senate. >> bill: i like him a lot. i think he is a real star. the senate would be for lauten lautenberg lautenberg's seat? do they assume lautenberg would step down? menendez was just re-elected i believe. >> didn't he have trouble? >> but he was re-elected. corey booker, we will see where he goes from there. you are hopeful we are not going to go over the cliff? >> i don't think we will. i think republicans, the indications are you are going to use the debt limit as the big fight. >> that's going to be the big staging ground for a showdown with the white house. and they are just going to let the fiscal cliff thing take care of itself. i learned this recently, remember the sequester. >> yes. >> what a panic that was? >> yes. >> they can cancel that. they can say, we are not going
to do t we are going to cancel it. just cancelling the budget cuts saying, never mind. >> that's it you know what? i haven't thought about it that way but sincition a creation of their own making? right? the creature of their own making, they can undo what they did. >> they can undo it. >> because it came about they said, so if our super committee doesn't reach an agreement, these draconian budget cuts are going to take place. now, they could say, we changed our mind. >> never mind. yeah, never mind or they could delay it three years or a year or whatever. but they don't have to. >> that's why we are not hearing about it t they will just, we will never mind that. >> bill: well, i think you may be right. i think they know they have lost the battle on the tax cuts. even if they don't get a 39.6, they will agree to 37 or 37 natural or whatever. right? >> i think they have someling
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supreme court said it's interesting the "new york times" this morning points out that will the court waited decades in the civil rights era before jumping in to interracial marriage and yet this court hasn't waited at all. they jumped in with both feet on the question of marriage equality on friday two different cases. what is the impact of their decision to take these cases and what are these two cases all about? tell us the facts first. >> the two cases that they took were 1 everything was expecting them to take. >> the 1996 bill clinton -- >> the part of the law that defines marriage in all federal statutes and regulations as being one man and one woman, basically what it does at this point is prevents same-sex couples married legally in a state like massachusetts or iowa
from having the federal recognition that would go along with their marriage if they were an opposite-sex couple. >> that's been struck down by two courts of appeals already. we expected the court would take one of four different challenges before it on that. >> julie we know the obama administration said they will no longer defend doma. >> it took them awhile to get to that. >> it took the president awhile to come around on this issue. but john boehner and eric cantor have said they will continue to defend doma. from the house point of view. >> that's a real contentious thick thing. how about the second one? >> the second one, more surprising, is proposition 8, the california 2008 amendment that ended marriages, a few months earlier. that case in which the 9th
circuit court of appeals had struck down the amendment is unconstitutional. the court said they are going to take that on. >> that's a much more direct challenge because the supreme court could decide the section 3 of doma is constructiontutional. with this case with prop something else 8, if they take the case on its merits and look at the constitutionalty of proposition 8, they are going to at least be looking at changing who can marry in calendar the next day and even more broad and make a decision that impacts other states that have marriage bans. >> bill: so this -- and just to point out, the attorneys who are defending same-sex marriage and opposing proposition 8 are ted olson, conservative employee david boyce, liberal democrat
who were fighting against each other in the recall. >> the recount. >> in florida in 2000. it's interesting they have teamed together on this. julie, this decision, however the court comes down will have huge consequences. >> huge. what i am wondering, chris does the gay establishment have some discomfort with this court taking up these issues? wouldn't it be better in say, say, a couple of years or so after pompom gets more nominees in there? well. >> well, this was the issue that the lgbt group dealt with when the case was filed back in 2009. they were cautious at first and even directly opposed t as i had talked at the time with james essex who is the director of the lgbt rights project at the aclu and what he said is that you might debate over when you are
going to jump in the pool, but once you are in the pool, you are going to swim as hard as you can to get to the other side. >> there is -- >> so now that the court has taken the case, you are not going to hear people even if there are some people who still have some concerns, they are not going to be talking about it very loudly. >> lieutenant governor gavin newsom when he was mayor of san francisco almost opened the flood gate did on this issue is quoted in "the new york times" this morning as saying there is a huge risk here because were the court to rule boom, that doma is definitely constitutional and proposition 8 should be upheld it will set the movement back years and years and years. with any supreme court taking a case like this, there is a risk. >> anytime that you are going to give the supreme court the opportunity to do this, you are taking that risk. but ted olson was asked the
question on friday whether or not he felt that it would have been wiser for just the doma case to go before the justices and he said that he knows that those concerns are out there and he has never shared those concerns. >> bill: i will tell you one thing, if i had to count on a team, i think ted olson and david boyes, you could not have better. >> what power askshouses. it will be more than interesting to see what the court does. will they stay in step with public opinion? we have seen such a shift since president obama's election in '04, now, just overtime, it's become a thing >> bill: 2004, there were 10 or 11 ballots to and the constitution in those states. >> uh-huh. >> to make it, to ban same-sex marriage one man, one woman only. they all passed. today, we have nine states plus the district of columbia
maryland and washington joining this year which constitutionally accept same-sex marriage but that means, chris, 31 states have constitutional bans. >> less than 25% of americans live in the state -- in a state that allows same-sex marriage. >> less than. >> less than. so for only way those 31 states they, themselves have to change their constitution. wouldn't they? or would, if the supreme court rules against doma. >> if the supreme court rules against doma, nothing changes. >> if they rule for california? >> uh-huh. >> how about all of those other state constitdeletions? automatically invalid dated. >> the 9th circuit, when they decided the case they ruled very narrowly. they said because california had the right, california same-sex couples had the right to marry. then it was taken away from them, that this was similar to
the 1996 supreme court case when the colorado voters had amended their constitution and it was a case rommer versus evans in which the voters had taken away ability for any city in colorado to have a non-discrimination policy based upon sexual orientation. the court there had said you can't take away people's rights to enter the system. >> bill: the court could say it's up to the states? >> the court could say you can't take away rights. >> bill: uh-huh. >> you have already granted. that would only impact the state of california. but they could also say that the 14th amendment to the constitution guarantees fundamental rights like marriage and that includes same-sex couples and you could have these other marriage amendments including the 2004 ones struck down. >> we have to go to a point about public opinion changing.
george wills made an interesting point. >> they could say it's safe to look at this because there is something like an emerging consensus. quite literally, the opposition to gay marriage is dying. it's old people. >> it's old people dying off. which is true. >> very true. >> you talk to young people today? >> they are cool. they are cool with it. >> bill: >> bill: totally. so i guess the question to you and to our guests here julie mason and chrys geidner. has the wind gone out of the sails of the anti--- >> or living in certain circles. >> declaring victory too soon? we will be back here on. >> this is "the full court press: the bill press show," live on your radio and on
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is is that he wrote the opinion in that colorado case, roma versus evans and the opinion in lawrence versus texas in 2003 that struck down sodomy laws. >> gay friendly. >> he wrought a rather expansion expansionive ruling. >> in the healthcare case john roberts. >> a wild card. or a trend? roberts action i think is the real question here. right? >> i think there is some hope he will be the question here. was that his moment and this is where he draws the line? it's been fascinating to watch this issue sort of sold and packaged accurately as the civil rights issue of our time.
the chief justice was a lawyer in the d.c. establishment and et cetera a younger member of the court. he is also going to be for a lot of reasons why everybody talked about with the obama care case looking at his legacy and earlier cases that the court has heard and think being that. >> joel calling from baltimore, maryland. good morning. thank you for joining us. >> good morning. >> what's your point or question or whatever? >> i am a gay man, but i have concerns about the supreme court. first of all, these are older americans the it's the younger
ones who are defendsing to >> bill: older americans on the court, you mean? >> yes. >> bill: some of them. >> there is a fairly substantial number of roman cathlics on the court. i am not convinced that the catholic members will vote favorably for this issue. >> those are two strongacts. >>ae i think everybody would in support of marriage aequalequality would prefer there was a facebook vote. if twitter was in charge gay advocates would be for it toed
but we go with the court we have. it's going to be an uphill battle, i think, to make sure especially in the prop 8 case you are getting these justices that have these. >> are you a lawyer? >> a recovering lawyer. >> i love practicing law without a license. is there any way under the constitution you can deny same section couples a right to marry? >> i have never heard it argued that you could only moral or religious ones. >> i know what joel said about catholics is true. it's not the bible and what the vatican says but it's what the constitution says. if you look at the constitution i don't see how you can get around it. he quality for all means equality for all americans.
>> can't they punt it and say state's rights. >> the only thing they might be able to do. right? we solved that issue. didn't we? >> done. what's next. julie mason. what's next? your show at noon? >> yes. >> thanks, bill. chris geidner, good work as always. independence day. yes. i will be back to tell you what the president is up to today. on the road again. >> this is bill press show. [ music ] >> that's hilarious! >> ...and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there's wiggle-room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. ... and current will let me say anything.
>> announcer: this is the "bill [ music ] this is "the bill press show." >> bill: president obama business busy day today. daily briefing with the vice president at the whitehouse and then off to andrews air force base. i i don't know about a helicopter today in this we think. on to detroit landing in michigan at the metro wing county airport at 12:30 this afternoon touring the detroit diesel plant making remarks there at 2:00 o'clock this afternoon and then he will be back at the whitehouse this evening, arriving back on the south lawn of the white house at 4:30 this afternoon. press secretary jay carney will gaggling. no press briefing. he will gaggle with reporters aboard air force one, the president going out to talk about the jobs and the economy and the new job numbers on --
from our little factory here, t.v. factory on capitol hill in washington, d.c. waiting to see whether that big meeting yesterday between president obama and john boehner will produce any results in terms of saving us from going over the fiscal cliff. meanwhile, we will talk about at the top of the hour, in one day on friday, republican legislators in michigan forced through right-to-work legislation, destroying labor unions in a state that labor built, but unions are getting organized. they are going to be big -- there are going to be big protests and they are they say they will not allow them to get away with this. we will talk about that. the latest. today's current news update from lease a ferguson out in los angeles. hi, lisa. good morning. >> hey, bill. good morning, everyone. big banks are in for another round of trouble thanks to a fresh waves of lawsuits facing claims they sold more than
$1 trillion of bond securities backed by home mortgages. banks have paid tens of billions of dollars to settle other lawsuits and some in the industry fear they are facing up to another $300,000,000,000 in losses. many homeowners and investors could argue they deserve a payout from the banks after seeing their mortgages collapse during the financial crisis but economists say those costs could slow the recovery and limit the banks' ability to lend as the housing market is coming back to life. newt gingrich is warning the g.o.p. they would be incapable of competing against hillary clinton if she decided to run in 2016. he said that on nbc's meet the press yesterday and that would be like trying to inwith the super bowl. he said if clinton decides to run, he is sure she would get the nomination although he joked that's the same thing he thought in 2008. the national minorah is lit. last night on the second day of
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>> what else did you do? >> i look forward to next hour when you will wear your archie manning jersey. >> i would be all right with that. >> notes on people's backs they didn't know about. >> yeah. maybe 3rd grade. >> you know newt gingrich he has to do something to try to keep himself relevant, although nothing really works. to show you how eager newt is to keep in the news, yesterday, he stoops to talking about 2016 and hillary clinton. >> that's when you've got nothing else to say. right? you pull out that chestnut saying if she is the nominee t republicans might as well not
field a candidate. >> if their competitor in '16 is going to be supported by a presumably popular president bar barack obama, that will be the super bowl. the republican party is incapable of competing at that level. >> with can dates like newt gingrich and michelle bachmann and rick perry and santor-up. that bunch of clowns not to mention donald trump. >>so such a weird group of republican candidates that he was a part of he admits that nobody can beat her. they were all whackos. hilda solis in studio with us about 20 minutes from now to talk about the job numbers. we will start off with a very, very disturbing development out in the state of michigan and we will talk to steve cook who is president of the michigan
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cookbook? >> i don't know that there is. >> we will get to more serious issues one troubling issue is the news out of michigan. we wanted to check in with the president of the michigan education association, steve cook joining us on our news line this morning. hey, steve, good to have you with us. thank you. >> merry christmas, bill, thanks for having me. >> merry christmas but not a merry christmas when the republican state legislators in michigan, they were able to force through in one day right-to-work legislation? >> well, bill, let me tell you, myself and the uaw president bob king and a couple of other labor leaders have been involved with the governor's office for 10 days prior to that. the governor having convinced us that he really didn't want this on his desk and asked for our help to keep it off of his desk. we have been engaged in 10 days for those discussions and then we found out thursday morning,
blind-sided actually by the governor's office that even though we were led to believe those discussions were very fruitful and headed in the right direction, he up and said, we are going to run it. they are going to run it. four hours later, it was law. thumbing, at the need to finish the job on tuesday but that's a foregone conclusion. they will enroll the bill. the governor will sign it. here we are. >> what was the governor doing? playing rope-a-dope with you guys? >> you know, i am not sure what he was doing. it's interesting it came so close to pearl harbor day because we kind of felt a little like it was a sneak attack. we thought we were trying to prevent this war from coming and we had a partner in that effort. turns out we didn't. i just don't know what the governor was thinking. i mean he had said for a long time it wasn't on his agenda. educated that this is something he did not want to have come to his desk. we were willing to help him do that. come to find out he does want
the war that's coming. it's one of those things that you can't stop people from doing dumb things buckt he can om make them wish they hadn't done it. >> that's kind of the position we are in. >> just for the information, i guess, for all of our listeners and viewers, some of whom may not appreciate or may not know exactly what the right to work legislation means, steve, what does it mean in terms of -- >> sure. >> union membership in michigan or any other state? >> well, it's for first of all, it's for all public and all private -- there is a carve-out for police and fire. but what it essentially means is that the union services and protections and services that we offer now have to be available to non-members, and they always were by law. we have to service all of themez whether you are an actual dues paying member or not but what this means is you can pay
absolutely nothing and you are entitled by law to receive all of the services, all of the benefits and every protection that the union offers. it's really an attempt, i think, in one respect to de-fund the opposition that republicans have here. >> of course. >> obama won by nine points. they are not happy about that. they lost some seats in the state houses, and i think they are looking at this as if we can de-if you wanted the opposition, we will have a clear road ahead to do whatever we want into the future, and i think that's exactly the way they are looking at this. >> so workers in any given plant, as employers we know make it difficult. but they can choose to form a union or not form a union. this says even once there is a union like at an auto plant, for example? right? that you could have people who work there opt out of the union, and they still get all of the benefits and all of the protection that the union has fought for and won for its
members. right? >> that's correct. by law. >> a bunch of free loaders? >> the koch brothers have been on the capitol lawn here for the last week with their, i think it's freedom to choose signs. what this is a freedom to freeload is all this bill is about. unions. anyone working in michigan has never been required to join a union. you can opt out. you can pay your agency 15, which only covers that part of the association's cost of bargaining the contract, represent can non-members and those things that we have to provide. >> uh-huh. >> and they've always had that right. members have always had the right in michigan if they didn't like the union they were in they could switch, join another union or just have no union at all. >> that's always been there. this right to work legislation is far more nefarious than just what you will hear out of the
republicans and freedom to choose. >> by the way, i have to say, you are absolutely right. this is -- this is just like what kasick tried to do, to i can bra the backs of the unions in order to break the back of main supporters of democratic candidates. not just democratic candidates but pro-working family candidates. >> sure. >> steve, you mentioned they have to tinker with this again tomorrow and then the governor will sign it. is there any way to overturn it? any way to repeal it? what are the plans? >> right now, we are meeting with the other unions. and we've had a 33-member union coalition in place for about a year and a half. that coalition has stayed very strong throughout all of this. we are meeting with them to look at what exactly our strat jeez are going to be going forward heading into 2014. but it involves court challenges.
it involves citizen refer endums. it involves recalls. i mean the whole devicesive issue the governor said he wanted to avoid has now come home to the governor's office. >> let the chickens come home to roost. he asks for it. he could have avoided it. >> yeah. >> i have to say just from this end, we want to give him the same amount of grief we were able to give john kasick and succeeded there and scott walker, unfortunately, did not succeed. so at this point, tomorrow is the day. right? >> that's correct. >> yeah. but, you know what steve? talk about this if you can. what i find particularly troubling about this is that if you think of any state where labor unions are strong and where labor unions have really built the state and built the state's economy, right? it's michigan s right? >> absolutely. it's a slap in the face to the history of the state.
it's a slap in the face to the people who built this state and the governor. you asked me earlier, what was he thinking? i just don't know. but i have a feeling sooner rather than later, he is going to be sorry he did this. there will be no peace for not only the governor but the house and senate members, republicans mainly who voted for this for the next two years. it's leading up into 2014. he is going to be sorry he did it. >> the former governor of michigan and teammate of ours on current tv jennifer granholm who might have a thing or two to say about this. >> this would not have happened under jennifer gran home. >> that's for damn sure. >> absolutely not. >> i can't wait to hear what jennifer granholm has to say about this tonight on current tv. steve please keep in touch with us. we want to help anyway you can. when you get your strategy together, we will be there with you. >> it is deeply appreciated.
i will pass that along to the other coalition members. >> we have to feet the battle like we fought the battles in ohio and in wisconsin and new jersey and florida and any other place that these republican governors have tried to destroy unions, destroy the labor movement in this country. the latest in michigan -- that was steve cook from the michigan education association. their website is mea.org. [ music ] >> together we can get new >> this is "the full court press: the bill press show," live on your radio and on current tv. museum benefit for victims of hurricane sandy, i booked the strongest, smartest comics i could find. my comedian friends and i will raise money to rebuild homes and lives one laugh at a time. so tune in next friday for my all star comedy special.
>> announcer: this is the "bill press show." live on your radio and current >> this is the full court press, "the bill press show," live on your radio and on current tv. >> bill: here we go 25 minutes after the hour now, monday december 10th, a member of the president's president's cabinet, labor secretary hilda solis in studio with us in the next segment. talk about the job numbers for november that came out and the economy overall, job numbers came out on friday. very important decision by the supreme court. i want to bring you up to date on but first, peter, on the social media world? >> peter: tweeting @bpshow. a little nugget in the last interview from michigan on the right to work situation, the koch brothers have gotten involved. they are there. >> bill: they do this legislation, they try to get it
passed in every state. right? >> kelee on twitter says of course they are involved they are blank-stirrers. louise says, these g.o.p. governors are owned by the koch boys, the right to work fight is the kochis fight. a vote for the g.o.p. is a vote for the kochs. alexis says right to mean has you have no rights at work. tweeting @bp show. find us there on twitter. >> the idea is these guys can work at the same plant get the same privileges, saul of the same benefits. right? and not have to pay anything at all in terms of dues. it's just disgusting. basically encourages people to be freeloaders. why pay the dues if you get everything for free? right? >> yeah. >> ridiculous. the whole purpose of this, whole purpose of this is political. it is to undercut any support that democratic politicians may receive from labor unions.
of course republicans can continue under citizens united to take unlimited funds from corporations. >> that's okay. but any support from labor unions for democratic candidates is not okay. talk more about that. but bringing you up to date if you are just joining us, very very important decision by the supreme court on friday to accept not just one but two cases related to marriage equality. one case is a case to -- on the constitutionality of the defense of marriage act signed by president clinton in 1996. the other is the constitutionality of an initiative in california overturned the decision to okay same-sex marriage. proposition 8 passed by the voters undid that supreme court decision. that matter has been contested as well. the court's ruling on both sides of that. both of those cases now come to
the supreme court, setting itself up for certainly one of the biggest cases and the most historic decisions of the ever. secretary hilda solis coming up next. >> this is "the bill press show." exciting issue. from financial regulation, iran getting a nuclear bomb, civil war in syria, fraud on wall street, destruction of medicare and medicaid. there are real issues here. having been a governor, i know that trade-offs are tough. things everyday exploding around the world that leave no shortage for exciting conversations. i want our viewer to understand why things have happened. at the end of the show, you know what has happened, why its happened and more importantly, what's going to happen tomorrow.
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the sky is the limit for them. you bet. find out hormore about that their good work at their website www iron workers.org. speaking of workers, working families and jobs, some good news on the jobs front on friday, here to tell us what it all means, i am very honored to welcome labor secretary hilda solis in our studio. madam secretary, good to see you. >> thank you, bill. >> thank you for coming in. we were poised on friday. the economist ahead of time told us we could expect maybe 75,000 new jobs in the month of november because of hundred sandy, and whoa the numbers came out 146 private sector jobs and unemployment ticking down from 7.9 to 7.7%. did you do a dance when you got those numbers? >> well, actually after we went through our report they
explained there really wasn't that little blip that we thought would affect the numbers in terms of raising the unemployment because of hurricane sandy, but, you know, next month could be slightly differently different. they may have been on payroll but were not working. we are not out of the woods there. yes, it is good news in terms of 5.6 million private sector jobs, 7.7. >> 5.6 private sector jobs? >> created in the last three three months. >> whoa? >> not bad, but we need to do more, bill, because when you go out -- i was out visiting folks in queens and out there earlier in the month, last month, and saw the devastation and can see that we still have a lot of work to do and infrastructure is so important. so i am hoping we can see some immediate relief for those people affected but, also, getting people back to work
overall across the country because we still have pockets of high unemployment in areas because we still need jobs. this, generally speaking, this report looks good across the board. we are seeing retail increasing. there is consumer confidence where people are spending but we need more stabilization and more assistance. we don't need to cut back on some of these benefits that are so sorely needed like ui benefits for the unemployed because you know that's going to have a dramatic impact unless we extend those kinds of benefits >> bill: i want to ask you where these 14678 new jobs, where we are seeing new jobs back and forth and you say it's across the board. >> across the board >> bill: manufacturing, too. >> manufacturing this month was stable. okay? but we know in the automobile industrial, that did create a big incentive and continues to be something that continues to grow. and i think in the retail industry, hotel, restaurants,
also in, we found transportation, a lot of shipping going on there. i think, also, in the healthcare arena, inspathe of the, you know, folks on the folks on the other side talking negative actively about healthcare reform. there is something happeningside talking negative actively about healthcare reform. there is something happening. >> that's one of the fastest growing segments of our economy, healthcare. when you see 146,000 new jobs, is the recession over? >> i don't think we are out of the woods yet, no. and i still think we have more to do. we have 12,000 people looking for work or could look at getting into a higher-skilled, better paying job. the president wants to do more job training and development, working with manufacturers. do we expand an apprenticeship program and helping people that lost their jobs in the reception recession. a lot were families you and i know where people worked in the industry for maybe 20 years, those jobs aren't here how do we
retool americans? the president says we have to get two million people from community colleges where there is a six month, one-year, 2-year that will help them be competitive. >> apple announced they are going to invest $100 million in a whole new line of computer manufacturering. one of the entire lines, here in the united states of america. is this an aberration, do you think, or do you think some other companies -- apple might bring other lines or other companies may follow their example? >> i can't some are beginning to do that. i think it's good. we see smaller companies that have brought some of their factory products back home already. we need to give them focused attention and support and give them assistance likely work force training. provide training that we can offer up to our work force investment programs, one-stop
centers to help people find the necessary folks for though jobs. i see it happening on a small scale, would love to see it happen on a broader scale. we can help apple with their training. i am hoping we can get into those discussions them. >> i think peter we talked about this. it's a point that tim cook has to here because tim cook told the new ceo of apple, told brian williams that one of the reasons that they located some jobs overseas is because people there have the skills and the training to build these computers. well, it seems to me americans can build these computers. we teach the skills in our community colleges and tie the two together. >> absolutely. we have an agreement we want to work with community colleges and businesses and actually have the community colleges write the criminal curriculum the businesses want. how can you go wrong with that? >> you marry those two together. >>. >> i ask you about december.
typically december, there is a pick-up in december, isn't there, because retail jobs even if there were part-time jobs. >> those numbers are all so, you know, they will be adjusted. they make that ajustment because of seasonal hiring but we may continue to see that there are people who will stay on those jobs, which is good but we also need to expand some of those manufacturing second orders and areas we need to boot up. for people to understand we have programs available to help them enter into that. most is in low cost for veterans coming home now from their tour of duties. we want them to come in. we will give them six months of case management if they are eligible. most will be eligible and we'll follow them, help them, work with the families and with our cbos community based
organizations. >> secretary of labor hilda solis in studio with us. she will be glad to take your questions at 866-55-press. madam secretary, if you look at these job numbers. consumer confidence the economy does seem to be we are not where we have to be but it's moving back. it keeps building, building, building back. what would happen if congress is unable reach an agreement on the fiscal cliff? >> well, that would be what i would call a self-in conflicted wound and it would set us back and it could he crease the unemployment rate and devastate, i think, a lot of sectors that we saw that were coming back. and i don't think any of us want to go there. i am hopeful that the president speaking with speaker boehner
let's get over that. let's focus what we need to do. we can't afford to sut back on essential programs like social security, like medicaid medicare. we have to be very careful how we do that. and not cut the safety knelt. we have 2 million people that are going to go off unemployment insurance. that will devastate our local economy. >> at the end of the year. >> yes. something has to be done. >> putting things in reference basically? and you hear the word certainty all the time. right? talk about uncertainty for american businesses? right? >> unnecessary. it's unnecessary. i think people around the world, around the globe are looking at us for some leadership and resolution here now isn't the time. we are past the election season. let's get to work now. >> that's what the president wants to do. >> that's what the american public wants him to do as well. >> that's why he is going out today speaking in detroit to talk to workers.
ible auto workers today. >> yeah. at the dangler detroit diesel detroit plant, he will be there this afternoon. secretary hilda solis in studio with us. your calls your comments welcome with those encouraging job numbers on friday. when we come back madam secretary, i would like to get your take on what is happening in michigan where the governor and the legislature in one day, on friday, said we are going to turn michigan into a right-to-work state. this is the full court press on monday december 10th, we will be right back. >> chatting with you at current.com/billpress. this is ""the bill press show"" live on your radio and on current tv. museum sflooush >> nobody knows disasters like comedians. that's why for my upcoming benefit for victims of hurricane sandy, i booked the strongest, smartest comics i could find. my comedian friends and i will raise money to rebuild homes and lives one laugh at a time. so[ music ] sflooush
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>> heard around the country and seen on current tv this is "the bill press show". >> bill: fourteen minutes before the top of the hour, the full court press with labor secretary hilda solis, our guest in studio. reading during the break, we talked about the president going out to the d aim ler plant in detroit. while he is there, d aim ler almost unveil a plan to expand u.s. jobs, $100 million or more next year with d aim ler trucks north america. the first -- will become the first heavy-duty equipment manufacturer to build a fullly integrated power train from their production facility. so that's more good news. another $100 million in
manufacturing. >> i would haven't tour to say too. >> bill: in a state, michigan that recently turned the legislate tower, tomorrow with the governor will officially stab organized labor in the back. we will talk about that in a minute. >> peter: tweeting @bpshow. talking about apple and the jobs apple are bringing to america, she says it's not the case american workers lack the skills. skilled american workers won't work for $0.25 an hour. they are right. they won't work for $0.25 an hour. they shouldn't. >> bill: madam secretary are if apple is bringing that line of work here, this country, they know they are going to have to be able to -- have to pay workers more plus benefits but they figured out they can do it and still make a profit here with those jobs.
otherwise, let's face it. they wouldn't do it. >> the consumer is looking at their corporate responsibility as well. >> that's a big factor here once they do get that, see that line of productivity up they will get a good product. other competitors will say gee we should probably come back here as well. >> how great to be able to have one of those macpro's with the words stamped >> "made in america". >> under good working conditions. right? where people are treated fairly. >> and payid a living wage. before we go to janet from albany albany, new york, you have to ask you about michigan they passed this, forced it through the republican legislature in one day, rick snyder says he will sign it. they have to tinker with it tomorrow to do some little --fine tune can, but we just heard from steve cook with the michigan education association that as of tomorrow, michigan will be a right to work state. this is a big slap in the face
for organized labor. >> well, we know that organized labor isn't the problem. look at the evidence shown in michigan, ohio and all of these areas that were affected by previously the downsizing in the automobile industry, uaw and management got together. now, you have profit sharing, people back to work, more shifts, more marketability of these new efficient hybrid vehicles. what's wrong with that >> bill: very much a part of that equation. >> they gave up a lot. it's not like they are unwilling to do that. who are you going to short-circuit here? you are going to short-circuit the american public and the work evers overall? unions have been shrinking. you can't just keep blaming one group of individuals. it's misguided unfortunately. >> it's pretty clear to me what it's all about. they are trying to undercut the unions because the unions have been very supportive of some
democratic candidates. i think they think if they can destroy the un ions they can destroy opposition. there is a big protest planned to try to undo this. we will be following that with all of you. madam secretary, let's say hello to janet from albany, new york. hey, janet, good morning. >> good morning, bill. good morning, madam secretary. >> fine. how are you? >> fine. thank you. ? >> my question this morning is: what about green technology. there seems to be such a great demand for sola and wind energy and so many people out of work, i would think that we could be manufacturing these things. >> bill: thanks jen. take your answer on the air if you would please. the president talks about green jobs. are they real? >> absolutely, they are real. according to the bls, the bureau of labor statistics, there is a whole sector sectors that are
growing that actually have the green job attachment to it, so whether it's in transportation healthcare even, all kinds of new industries conservation, when you think about these newables come on. hybrid vehicles lithium batteries, solar, bio, even in medicine, there are aspects of green to that conserve vaguelies. so we need to get more people involved and engaged math science, technology. all of that is a factor in creating better green jobs. if we don't do something, i think we will be faced with other challenges. look at what's happening to our climate, to our atmosphere to our planet. the president wants to talk about a lot of those issues i think in the next 4 years. >> the president made the point as we move into wind and as we moved more into solar, somebody's got to manufacture those wind turbines and somebody has to manufacture the sola panels. >> we still need welders and tool and dye makers. >> if we are not making them
here in this country, we know where they are going to be made? >> right. >> china or sweeden or someplace else. >> hopefully we make them here and they become -- we become more energy independent. >> every time during campaign, i must tell you -- peter, we talked about this on the air, romney saying and he spent $95 million$95,000,000 or a billion dollars on renew alan energy. i kept wondering if he would say you are damn right i did. >> there were a lot of jobs created. >> exactly? >> not only in places like california. you and i know that, around the country and florida and in maine and boston where you see individual state leaders taking it uponthems to make these investments as well but that has to continue. we have to be at the forefront of that. >> and as we go as californians californians, we have to to say what happened in michigan is deplorable, what happened in california where there was an
initiative and the labor unions got the together and we were able to fight back and defeat that initiative in california. the fight goes on. madam secretary, it's always good to have you in studio. thank you so much for great work you are doing. >> thank you. >> bill: and for coming in and sharing it with us this morning? >> thank you >> bill: see you soon. >> happy holidays to everyone. >> happy hol dazeidayholidays. i will be back with a quick parting shot. >> this is the "bill press show" live on your radio and on current tv. [ music ] >> that's hilarious! >> ...and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there's wiggle-room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. ... and current will let me say anything. >> only on current tv.
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don't start enbrel if you have an infection like the flu. tell your doctor if you're prone to infections, have cuts or sores have had hepatitis b have been treated for heart failure, or if, while on enbrel, you experience persistent fever, bruising, bleeding, or paleness. [ phil ] get back to the things that matter most. ask your rheumatologist if enbrel is right for you. [ doctor ] enbrel, the number one biologic medicine prescribed by rheumatologists. [ music ] >> the parting shot with bill
press, this is the""the bill press show"." "on this monday, december 10th, my parting shot for today, hey big news from the supreme court, setting itself up for one of the most significant decisions in its history, the court agreed to take two cases related to same-sex marriage and there is no doubt how they must rule. yeah, there are a lot of americans who base their opposition to same-sex marriage on the bible. they are just dead wrong. the bible doesn't say anything about same-sex marriage. but people have a right to be ignorant when this comes to their religion. nobody, however, can oppose same-sex marriage based upon the constitution. >> that's the only basis. unconstitutional. no doubt about it. all americans are guaranteed equal rights, equal opportunities, and one of them right up there with the right of privacy and the right of free speech is the right to marry. there is no way under the constitution that the supreme court can condone discrimination