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>> michael: coming up, mitch mcconnell has no chance. that made it more ironic that in real life mcmcconnell has no chin. i'm michael michael, and this is "the war room." >> michael: just having a little fun mitch. former amateur boxer harry reid found his misplaced boxing gloves last night and got in the ring with the republicans and talked about changing the
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rules unless the republicans accepted the come knees. what do you know, it worked. they greeded agreed to the nominees. then there's the long suffering nominee, richard cordray. it's been two years since the president chose him to lead the national consumer protection bureau. perhaps the republicans most hated agency, and he was finally confirmed as director today. the democrats can thank senator john mccain. he played a crucial role in the negotiations. >> mr. president after a required amount of debate we're going to move forward with the cordray nomination, which has been held up for some period of
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time. i would like to thank everybody on both sides of the aisle who have engaged in this debate and discussion. >> michael: what about thanking corecordray himself, who has had to put up with this foolishness. harry reid was as effusive as harry reid can be in his praise of john mccain. >> i'm going to tell one person and no one else how much i appreciate their advocacy here. their persuasiveness, persistence. no one was able to break through but for him. and he does it at his own peril. >> michael: jay carney also applauded mccain's work, but denied that the white house had any direct involvement in the deal.
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>> the white house was not involved in negotiating. the white house provided information and answered questions. when it came to working with hence, including senator mccain. what we've seen deserves credited for finding a solution here. >> michael: in the meantime,:mcconnell kept a low profile. >> i think it's a step in the right direction that the majority has chosen not to exercise the nuclear option. we feel good about that. i think they feel good about it. i think that crisis has been averted. we still will be dealing with controversial nominees in are a way that controversial nominees inevitably produce. a great debate. >> reporter: now for the latest on this story we head just
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outside of the senate, and we go to chris thanks for being in the war room. >> it's good to be with you. >> reporter: it's sort of an unusually day. is there any way that mitch mcconnell did it in a way that they wouldn't get the heat. >> there were a number of republicans who were talking with democrats. you have lindsey graham, john mccain, mitch mcconnell bob corker, there were a number of folks involved here on different parts of it. but democrats had a really good day today. this was a largely success for harry reid. the only only capitulation capitulation, the president said there would be
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two fresh nominees up. that was the only capitulation for democrats. but for republicans they have been very against the consumer finance protection bureau and blocked richard cordray from heading that bureau and because they wanted to see restructureing, and that was their only leverage, they lost that leverage today. and cordray himself, cordray a agreed that he would appear before the the aprobations committee. but these things were pretty small. democrats had a good day today. >> michael: it makes me wonder what the quid pro quo was or to go any further, do you think this is informed by the case that the supreme court may be taking up, and the republicans doing a little bit of jockeying on that front? >> certainly. the republicans made the issue
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that these were illegally appointed nominees, and they could not allow a vote to confirm these nominees because they couldn't shouldn't be there in the first place. that was the argument they made for richard cordray. they lost that on cordray but they did win it on the nrb folks. >> cenk: again, i don't see what their take away is just yet but i always know they have a bigger plan than just today. bernie sanders the senator from vermont, said this today. let's take a listen to this. >> this agreement today only addresses one symptom of a seriously dysfunctional senate. the united states senate in my view cannot function with any degree of the effectiveness if a
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super majority of 60 votes are needed to pass virtually any piece of legislation. >> michael: chris, you watch this body a lot closer than most americans do i want to ask you two questions: ,one, how much attention is paid to bernie sanders says these things, and does this mean that we'll see further filibuster reform. >> bernie sanders is always looked at as the far left. he's a guy who always takes progressive views. he's an independent from vermont, and he does not always necessarily line up with democrats. which is why he's an independent. progressive democrats would like to see filibuster reform, but that will be tough now. the filibuster reform would have been the nuclear option, and harry reid averted that.
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that's what republicans were after. they did not want to see a situation where they could not block nominees. they could still move forward to block nominees. harry reid could still threaten nuclear option. >> michael: yeah, it sounds about right to me. since brian schweitzer said he was noting about to run. that's another dangerous seat for democrats so they're thinking a little further ahead. carl levin said, quote: >> michael: so was there a better way for reid to have achieved the same thing here? >> well, he would have needed the republicans to go along with him in the beginning of the year, and they did not. and the other thing reid is really grappling here is a
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caucus of a majority of new democrats. these are democrats who have not served in the minority. so they have an understandable frustration with the minority's ability to block things, but they've never had that as their only tool in their legislative toolbox, and guys like reid and levin, they were in the opposite position in 2005 under george w bush's judicial nominee. if you remember the gang of 14, and they were making the exact same arguments then that the republicans are now. >> michael: that is such an astute observation. people who have never been in the minority have no idea what it's like. that's an important part of it. chris, before i let you go i want to talk about a little bit of news that came out this afternoon mike enzi from wyoming said he was going to run for re-election. moments later liz cheney said that she too, will run for the
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senate seat and primary mike enzi. "abc news" reported that enzi was assured by liz cheney that if he were to run she would not challenge him. and then this happens. what do you make of this, and how much could it hurt the republicans. >> it's such a safe seat i don't think it will have a big impact over what party controls that seat. but within the party perspective this is an interesting move. the cheneys had moves from the washington area back to wyoming, they're looked at as home staters. they're not carpet baggers but they haven't been there for a long time. they're just getting to know the state. and to take on mike enzi who is very well liked in the state who has been known for his service might be a little bit too big.
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her daughter father is dick cheney, so this will be interesting to watch. how badly does liz cheney want to beat up a mainstream republican. it really raises the question of what will mike enzi do? how badly does he want to hit back against liz cheney because he has kept his powder dry up until now. >> michael: yes, chris congratulations, you also brought back the boxing reference, which we opened the block with, soy appreciate that. really great stuff. chris frates congressional reporter for the national journal. we've had a few days to sink in, and guess what, it still sucks. the more we hear about the
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verdict the more outraged we become. and i think it's time to call him mcdonnell the disgrace. he's a crooked dog and his wife may be cruder. and i don't know if she suesed used a tuning fork or what we'll talk about that when we come back.
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star scientific. there is more. the "washington post" revealed the governor received additional gifts totaling $145,000. despite the mounting evidence mcdonnell claims he hasn't done anything wrong. he said, quote: >> michael: those rules require the disclosure of any gift above $50 but do in the required the disclosure to immediate family. the governor's wife, sister and daughter have all benefited from these convenient rules. and the is a scandals are contagious. the titch ittim cucnelli also received gifts
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gifts. a new poll indicates that virginia voters may be getting used to this thing. cuccinelli remains just five points behind terry mcauliffe. it appears that the virginians are not thrilled with their options to replace mcdonnell. joining us julian walker, welcome into "the war room"." >> thanks for having me. >> michael: let's start with governor mcdonnell. he's being investigated on the federal and state levels with six months left in his term. do you see the governor being forced to resign? >> well, there are several legislators in virginia who have called for his resignation. one of them democrats. a state senator actually called for impeachment proceedings against the governor. the governor has resisted calls for his resignation and insisted he has complied with the letter of the law. some question whether he has met
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the spirit of the law in terms of disclosing gifts and receiving things, but at this point there is a distinct likelihood he could ride it out if it we are to believe what he says, which is he is not going to resign. the general assembly which they bicamera legislation control the republicans. and it would call the governor calling a special session to call impeachment proceedings. if you believe his rejections of any calls for resignation, then it is considerable that he will ride this out. at least for the remaining six months of his term. >> michael: i didn't realize that the hoops were so complicated. and when you hear about the fact that he thinks that he's doing just fine, and he's living within the letter of the law sort of a stand your ground way if you will, that he can do something wrong. but that's the law. maybe the laws need to change.
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he said he hasn't violated any state laws. but is this a situation where they are with those state laws and can they change? >> well, virginia is a very permissive state. the gift threshold for reporting is only $50. that's only for the elected official and other public officials if they're eligible for reporting. in terms of campaign contribution the threshold is $100. other than that pretty much anything goes. some people perceive virginia a wild west of political gifts. there is no upward limit. there is only the requirement that you report if you receive a $50 gift if it's the office holder or the $100 contribution if you are the office seeker or the candidate. beyond that anything goes. >> michael: and mcauliffe has called for a ban on gifts over $100. just that that would be one of
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the issues that he is stumping on now. do we see this as purely political oh or is there support for tightening these rules now? >> well, there are a number of legislatures, both republicans and democrats who are saying the gift rules need to be revisited. as is always the case in the legislative process, you know, when you get down to the nitty-gritty of actually compromising that is the big challenge. you have democrats like terry mcauliffe the democrat for governor saying there should an flat $100 ban. and by relatives of office holders. the house speaker said i'm open to reconsidering our gift rules but i don't know that i'm going to get on board with terry mcauliffe's proposal. the last time virginia had a major ethic scandal which was in 2009-10, it came down to
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essentially the final hour of the follow up legislative session for lawmakers agree on ethics reforms. and most people will agree that what they agreed to and what they passed into law was a watered down version and didn't have much more teeth than the rules that previously existed. >> michael: when people are in charge of changing the rules we all know what will happen. is the scandal carrying over in the race to relace him? >> democrats certainly hope so. to a large degree, the cuccenell cuccenelli has succeeded large consent to step away from this. they put out a mild rebuke or a mild statement distancing himself from governor mcdonnell. he didn't mention him by name, he just said this has been a
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painful chapter in virginia history. but mr. cuccenelli has received gifts not to the extent of governor mcdonnell but he has received gifts. there has been a long-going tax dispute, that has mired his office for two years until he recused himself. mr. cuccenelli was also a shareholder in star scientific before he disposed of his stock in that company. the democrats are trying to make that tie in. the cuccenelli campaign is trying very hard to step away from it. and the polls show that mr. mcauliffe has a slight advantage, but remember the four-point edge that he has is still within the margin of error, so this still remains a tight race. >> michael: and the only ones who could blow an open net would be the democrats not knowing
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what to do with it. the cuccenelli is running a mcauliffe ad on their website. how dirty do we expect this to get? >> so far there have been a lot of sharp elbows. there have been a release of treeoffed ads between late last week and this week all going negative orders mr. cuccenelli. ads against mr. cuccenelli. democrats have gone at hit over his stand on social security, and they have gone after him on women's issues. they're going after him. but meanwhile while the cuccenelli campaign has not gone after terry mcauliffe negatively in a televised ad, they certainly have been very
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negative as well. every day they come after him with things like war on coal his business record 37 any number of things. about the union interests, a lot of sharp elbows. this is likely going to be an expensive race, one that much of the country one that the political junkies will be transfixed by, and one that will be negative in tone. >> michael: yes, i think political junkies are transfixed on virginia all the time. thank you for being in the war room tonight. up next on the show we have barely scratched the surface of today's political news. keeping with our theme these, my friends, are the middle rounds. we hope we can get back in the ring right there with you after this. compelling true stories. >> jack, how old are you? >> nine. >> this is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. (vo) with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. (vo) from the underworld, to the
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>> did anyone tell the pilgrims they should self-deport? >> no, they said "make us a turkey and make it fast". >> (laughter). >> she gets the comedians laughing. >> that's the best! >> that's hilarious. >> ... and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there is wiggle room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> ya, i consider you jew-talian. >> okay, whatever you want. >> who plays kafka? >> who saw kafka? >> who ever saw kafka? >> (laughter). >> asking the tough questions. >> chris brown, i mean you wouldn't let one of your daughters go out with him. >> absolutely not. >> you would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me? >> (singing) >> i take lipitor, thats it. >> are you improving your lips? >> (laughter). >> when she's talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. >> it looks like anthony wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. >> his what in the ring? >> his hat. >> always outspoken, joy behar. >> and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking?
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>> only on current tv. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> michael: we're now so used to the g.o.p. war on women that it's startling to see a republican actually do the right thing. that seems to be what is happening on military sexual assault. today tea party darling announce announced their support for reforms to the military justice tem champions by kristin gillibrand of new york. gillibrand wants to remove process of sexual assault report from the chain of command. they found that sexual assaults are almost never prosecuted. the study showed 26,000 people from sexually assaulted in the military just last year but fewer than 3300 assaults were reported and 302 cases were prosecuted. >> our carefully crafted common
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sense proposal was written in direct response to what the victims told us, the stories that came from them, what happened to them. the fact that they didn't trust the chain of command. that they were retaliated against. that they didn't believe that justice was possible. >> michael: gillibrand's proposal was squashed in the senate arm service committee by carl levin and claire mccass gill. but she plans to take it to a full senate for a vote, and she got a boost from a pair of unlikely allies. >> i'm concerned that victims of assault though may be deterred from reporting the assault if they have to report it to their boss. >> having to go to your boss and raise the problem that--the crime of sexual assault with your boss has proven, in fact to be deterring victims were reporting the crimes. >> michael: that was senator ted cruz, and before that rand paul. two republicans talking about rape. but for once they're actually talking sense.
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gillibrand said that with paul and cruz on board she's ten votes away from a majority. we welcome back now donnie fowler to help us make sense of this. donnie, what's going on here? i mean, what's with ted cruz jumping on board with kristin gillibrand. >> there are two things that we know ted cruz and paul rand don't like command structures. they don't listen to their leadership in the u.s. senate. they don't listen to the leaders of the republican party it's not a surprise that they're not going to listen to the structure of the command in the military. there is a lot of good politicking going on by senator gillibrand in new york. >> michael: she's been very impressive on this issue. you say they like to buck authority, both cruz and paul. how are they going to get any other republicans to go along with them. >> well, it's not their job to get other republicans to go with
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them. this is gillibrand's bill. her struggle is not with the republican party, per se, but it's the view of how to deal with sexual assaults. this is turning out not to be republican and democrat issue as much of it is a philosophy of how much you respect military command structure and how much you want to solve the assault problem. >> michael: she has the pentagon to go up against too. that will betive. let's go to wyoming. there was breaking news. alan simpson said the fact that there is a primary in wyoming is that it's going to be disastrous for the g.o.p. >> it's going to cost them a lot of money. it will cause a lot of pain. it will cause each candidate dick cheney's daughter and the incumbent say things that are really white wing. but in the end wyoming is the
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smallest populous in the country, and it will take an a lot for a democrat to be elected. >> michael: the governor of wyoming, he raised a strong candidate statewide there is a chance if he steps. >> that would be good. i've worked on two campaigns in wyoming over the last 20 years and they have some really good democrats, some who are truly good public servants but he's the only one that may have won in the last 20 years. >> michael: what does it mean if elizabeth cheney loses. >> it could mean that dick cheney may have come to an end. >> michael: ahead of rush holt frank palone, is the race over?
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will he be the next senator from new jersey? >> i would go to vegas and put my money on it. you would be smart to put your money on it, too. >> michael: today the senator from massachusetts was replaced by ed markey who won the election earlier this month. >> truly phenomenal guy. massachusetts is lucky to have two truly great senators. >> michael: he cut in half by leaving the number of black senators right now, and if booker goes there it will double once again. that's an interesting sub story. let's talk about harry reid and this whole filibuster story that's going on right now. is this too little too late, this change? these changes that he's trying to make, and are they scared of 2014. is that why they might pull back a little bit? >> it's clear that most senators like the idea of being able to stop something that they think
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is really bad when they're in the minority. so there is a sense that you want to preserve some form of a filibuster. the problem is that the fill muster for both parties has become commonplace and it's not unusually. i give harry reid credit to be willing to fight and plead a little bit to get these nominees through. there might be some who wish he would fight as well for other nominees as well, maybe he will. >> michael: i don't see the republicans budging that much, and john mccain gets kudos from everybody else. >> except the right wing. >> michael: why does he do it? does he love missing people off? >> yes. if john john mccain would have become press, he thinks he would have become the next teddy roosevelt.
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this is part of who john mccain is. >> michael: i sort of see a side of john mccain that i didn't expect to see. i thought he would go against the democrats every turn, but he has gone up against the people in his party. >> he vacillateses between an angry old man and a charging teddy roosevelt and you never know each day what you're going to get. >> michael: in new york city, two more topics, anthony weiner eliot spitzer. if anthony weiner is the nominee. >> it would have to be a bloomberg-like figure, an independent, right now he's just michael bloomberg. maybe he has his own party coming. but there doesn't seem to be anybody in the wings in the independent or republican side for new york city that could beat him. >> michael: where the primary is probably the mayor. before i he let you go, george h. w. bush went to the white house yesterday to give his
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5,000th point and the imagery of seeing president obama with former president bush and the camaraderie, what does his legacy look like now? >> even ronald reagan looks like a liberal compared to the republicans today and to george bush jr. george h. w. bush came to the presidency as maybe the most qualified, the longest resumé of anyone to begin work. you know, it is all in historical context. if you say would you take the current tea party republican party or would you take george h. w. bush's republican party i think most people would say let's go back to a reasonable time. >> michael: he gave us clarence thomas but also david suter. >> and the cap and trade for the ozone. >> michael: and he's being wheeled into the white house. he was the one who came up with the americans for disabilityies
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acts some progressive things. >> you might disagree with the ideology or the issues, but it's impossible to say that he wasn't someone who committed his life to serving the united states. >> michael: donnie fowler, we need to put a fireplace up so we could have fireside chats with donnie fowler. we'll talk about the zimmerman verdict and more. that's right after this. very, very excited about that and very proud of that. >>beltway politics from inside the loop. >>we tackle the big issues here in our nation's capital, around the country and around the globe. >>dc columnist and four time emmy winner bill press opens current's morning news block. >>we'll do our best to carry the flag from 6 to 9 every morning.
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alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. >> michael: the naacp is gathering for its annual convention in florida just 30 minutes from where a jury found robertgeorge zimmerman not guilty for murdering trayvon martin. there was a petition online asking the federal government to charge a civil lawsuit against
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zimmerman. attorney general eric holder announced he's considering a criminal case against zimmerman. >> even as this convention proceeds we are all mindful of the tragic and unnecessary shooting death last year in sanford, florida. this afternoon i want to assure you of two things. i am concerned about this case. and as we confirmed last spring the justice department has an open investigation into it. >> michael: holder went on to say that the investigation is ongoing and the justice department is considering all available information before proceeding. we do know that if a criminal case is brought forward the d.o.j. will charge zimmerman under the hate crime laws enacted in 2009. to qualify as a hate crime they will have to prove two things. one, race was a factor, and
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two, bodily injury was done. proving that race played a role in the shoot something a very high hurdle, one that the president of the naacp doesn't seem worried. meeting with amy good man on "democracy now" this morning, he said this. >> going to a trial where the judge blocked all discussion of racial profiling we have not talked about those young boys who lived in their neighborhood who felt targeted by him because of their color, there is a lot here. >> michael: he discussed quote witness nine who is zimmerman's own cousin. witness nine called the police saying that zimmerman acted out in racial prejudice and hatred. despite the high standards, he remains confident. >> it does take a high bar but the reality is that a high bar
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can be met. whenever criminal charge are met, it should take a high bar. >> michael: many don't share that confidence. many think that high bar will be impossible to reach especially in this case. joining us is david pakman host of the aptly named "david pakman show." welcome. >> thanks. >> michael: would this had a different outcome if there had been a history of racial violence. >> i was disturbed to see that interview with juror on cnn. we went through so many potential jurors, endless minutes of questions from both sides, and that hopefully would have given us a sense that the six jurors that we ended up with were going to be unbiased. they were going to be bright, able to understand and apply the law correctly and if you saw any of that interview last night you probably got the same sense
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i did which is we had an incredibly biased individual who had a hard time making sense of the evidence presented it might not have made a difference. >> michael: you could say in the abstract that it would have made a difference, but when you get to the actual jurors and you hear what they're saying, i agree with you i got that same sense watching last night watching juror b 37. what do you think of six people on the jury as opposed to 12 people on the jury. it seems that that would be a conversation that florida should have as well. >> right, if the death penalty had been on the table then it would have required a 12-person jury. because it wasn't it was only six. it might seem at first glance that having 12 people might have ended up differently but remember the jury needed to be unanimous. it's not totally clear that if you had the another six people
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who had roughly the same ability to interpret the evidence, you could have ended up in a similar situation. >> michael: there is no disputing it. it's hypothetical but i think if there are more reasonable voice to talk b 37 out of her opinion things might have gone a little better in that jury. will they be able to meet the high standards of the criminal eighthate crime? do you have the same amount of confidence that ben jealous has that hate was a factor here? >> no, i don't. one of the biggest reasons why george zimmerman found trayvon martin to be suspicious because at some other point there was a black guy in that neighborhood who supposedly broke into someone's house. we can establish pretty clearly race was a factor initially in getting on zimmerman's radar.
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it's really hard to say legally speaking that it was a hate crime, and that hate crime really was the actual shooting of trayvon martin. so i understand the optimism from ben jealous and others, but i don't see it as very likely. >> michael: it's also a difficult thing for him to defend, for zimmerman to defend. everything is ambiguous. it's almost word versus word. do you think the doj should go forward in this criminal case against zimmerman? >> i don't think that they should if they're doing it simply to send some kind of a message because we already have too many mixed messages being interpreted from this. we have conservatives, we even have george zimmerman's brother minutes after the verdict being red on piers morgan taking this verdict and saying, listen, we have a lot of questions about killing here because killing people in self defense but also killing people via abortion are wrong. that's an example of how
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conservatives are taking this verdict, and trying to expand it saying that it means a ton of different stuff about conservative values. all it is is whether there was an indication if there was enough legally permissible evidence to get a guilty verdict. if there wasn't, to take that verdict to say that it means anything else is wrong. >> michael: i think that's really a great way of putting it. i really appreciate that observation. part of me thinks this is an opportunity. he got a not guilty verdict. had he gotten a guilty verdict. had he gone to jail, this conversation would have gone to jail with him, and we would have been talking about something else. i think there is value in continuing this conversation and what the doj is doing. now since the hate crime act was enacted in 2009 the doj has prosecuted 29% more cases than the previous lee years and
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charges on 78% more hate crime defendants. but president obama seems to be cautious in applying the new law. do you think obama should back holder and bush for the federal case? >> i think he should if it's the correct thing from the view of the justice department. to push for it in the vacuum of political expediency and to send a message that wouldn't increase the likelihood of the case going in the direction in favor of the prosecution at all. so if it is correct to do that, then absolutely he should back it. >> michael: do you think he struck the right tone so far since this happened, since the verdict? do you think he has been in the right place on this? >> i think so. going too far in one direction or another will obviously draw criticism of everything that the president does and will do, but i think he has been even, and he does seem to be deferring to those who are in the department of justice to make the decision, and hopefully he would back the
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decision they make. i think that's the happy medium, the right place to be. >> michael: very quickly david protest versus erupted coast to coast as a reaction of the verdict. violence broke out in oakland. do you think the prosecution of the hate case plays into it at all? >> last night mark o'meara was asked on the shawn sean hannity show of what he thought of the violence in oakland. he said this is indicative of what is going on in this country. it's street justice and people taking things in their own hands. i don't think he realized irony. he only had zimmerman as a client because zimmerman got out of the car and did the exact same thing that he's criticizing. >> michael: i'm so glad you said
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that. that is so true and so obvious. david pakman, host of the david pakman show, look for it online. it is great. up next we have the brett erlich and michele bachmann show. stick around. happen. >> watch the show. >> only on current tv.
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>> storysorry, mike, i was just looking at your facebook profile. i didn't know they made speedos that tight. i have good news. michele bachmann. she made a statement. she was being interviewed by aggregate conservative news nonsense: is what she had to say about president obama. >> he has this magic wand, and no one has given him a spanking. >> she proposed the way to deal with the president is to spank him and goes further to say that she should spank him in the checkbook. there is some kind of wizard imagery but wizard with a checkbook. that's a very intimidateing wizard.
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>> michael: she wants to spank him while he has his wand in his hand. >> and is is that how she thinks legislation happens in america? i often thought she got her degree at hogwart's but this is confirmation of that fact. if you want to get him to stop it's better to kick military sorcererhim in thesorcerer's stone. i found that quite entertaining. second story, eliot spitzer formerly of this network launched his comptroller campaign website recently, and so in watching that website he inadvertently made it so that when you share the website it says check out eliot, comp control comptroller
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site. and they had a tag line as a place holder. it says we have a great tag line. it's so amazing. they quickly issued--they just quickly fixed the problem but that was a place holder until they replaced it with the actual tag line, and i have some of those. first, eliot spitzer, come on, we're all adults here. i think that's the next one eliot spitzer come on, we're all adults here. don't hate the player, hate the game. yeah, he paid for it, but how did he pay for it? >> michael: i think those are fantastic. i don't know which is the real one. i think we should have had them both brett. thanks, as always, for being on the show. thank you for joining us on "the war room." have a great night. come back tomorrow, but stay tune now for "the young turks."
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