tv Doc Film - German Exile - Flight from Turkey Deutsche Welle January 29, 2018 4:15pm-5:00pm CET
the third major attack in the city in recent days. you're watching t w news on behalf of all of us here in berlin thank you for. the people the world over information they provide the opinions they want to express g.w. on facebook and twitter up to date and in touch. my name is john didn't die i lived in exile.
i served time in prison in turkey i was a marked man there i could i would die in prison or leave the country i chose exile . in the autumn of twenty sixteen i moved to berlin i'd left my country my home and my wife behind. on the last day of september twenty sixth the police stormed and searched our home in istanbul they took away my wife's passport when i was in prison with meat separated by a glass partition now we talk to each other on the internet. they all authorities have been holding my wife hostage for a year now they filed no charges against her only. crime was to be married to me.
life fifteen twenty sixteen was a turning point in our lives i was in spain and watched coverage of the turkish crew attempt on t.v. the crew was defeated with the help of the turkish people. it was clear the president had a one would use these events to strengthen his grip on power that's exactly what he did through state sponsored repression. my name is cut your dice i'm a journalist before the coup attempt i've been to turkey several times. afterward i noticed that the people i interviewed were reluctant to speak up i thought right away that the coup attempt would make the situation much worse for critics of the government in turkey. gendron dow was the editor in chief of the
newspaper jury yet now he's on the government's list of wanted criminals. i met john in barcelona where i was working on a story he told me at the time that he couldn't go back to turkey and was thinking about moving to berlin he arrived a few weeks later the number of turks seeking asylum in germany tripled after the coup attempt john is one of the most prominent people to have gone into exile he and i decided that we would give these new expatriates a voice and tell their stories. so this is a new wave of refugees i mean it's completely different than the sixty's you know the first couple years were you know peasants were crew six are true but this time this is a kid emissions artistry and it's authors so this is the brain of to come into germany. one of them is lucky for our kids a sociologist the teacher signed
a petition that called for peace in turkey is kurdish region and it got her fired from her university job. she and i met at a demonstration in support of university lecturers who'd been arrested. now the two of us are meeting again in germany. latif arrived in december i was there when she met jan it was an emotional moment. you had a meeting today yes we did how many questions. could create about forty and some
people could make a decision one of those belay would have jobs at universities. had them home and just about all of them but some came here on a tourist visa and they're having serious problems with the immigration authorities . she should but they're ok. i don't know. but it'll be even more difficult for those who want to come now they're not allowed to leave the country she thought it would you had trouble with the german authorities should have it have no problem or but these people can't leave turkey good but you got out. i did it it was a real adventure. why did i choose germany in fact it was germany that chose me while i was in prison i wrote a book and it was later published in germany the weekly german paper did cite hired me to write a column writers associations offered me fellowships i want to wards and was
invited to speak to distinguished audiences about the situation in turkey. in the one nine hundred thirty s. and korea welcomed german jewish intellectuals who had fled the nazis now darlin can return the favor. since the one nine hundred sixty s. large numbers of turks have emigrated to germany and the majority of them now support to one. like me many people in germany are concerned about the way the turkish government has cracked down on its opponents. for example denice eugen turkey correspondent for the newspaper the event has been held without charge in jail for months.
i notice that john is still a little nervous here in germany. he hesitates when i ask him why he doesn't use taxi cabs after many discussions with the drugs the drivers i decided to take or taxis and. driving is better for me and that's why. i decided to get that car. drive was still so. much more secure. but then taxis aren't safe i can't believe that show i talked to a future actually drivers. i did i wouldn't let chandon door into my cab. and shamus their failure is a traitor was a very tough jungle that is there is a traitor for me. finish there can and should talk but if he's innocent what's he doing in germany he's guilty well listen up why did he leave the field he's
a patriot he should stay in turkey and if i don't know why did he come to germany because he's been persecuted by a lot of forethought. many in germany's turkish community believe what they see and hear in the state controlled turkish media which claims that chandan dar is not an objective journalist but a dangerous enemy of the state. john has put together an online portal that allows turks living in exile to present critical reports about the situation in turkey. i set up this portal as soon as i got to germany it's called. offering. the but we are in solidarity. with the stick we were i was a bit concerned that there are many germans in jail so how can we say that we are free. but in their words they hope you know that we are still they become stop
us. since john would be arrested if he travels to turkey he and i decided i would go i do research for him there. i applied for a journalist visa if i went to turkey without one i could end up in jail. three or thirty spent months reviewing my application and didn't reply. they seemed to be stalling. then we decided to work with some turkish colleagues they shot this video in ankara for us we're not going to identify these people because they could be arrested. there are now more reporters in jail in turkey than in any other country. from germany we arrange for our turkish crew to meet with john's colleague jim go to trial or get the two of them is still under way in turkey.
adam girl and i were colleagues and shared the same fate because of our reporting. we posted a video showing turkish intelligence officers sending weapons and ammunition to islamist rebels who were fighting the our side regime in syria. adam's crime was that he published these allegations the turkish government says that the trucks contained humanitarian aid not weapons and president had one made a very public threat. your point the journalist who published this story will pay a high price. and we did pay we quarter at one committing a crime and were arrested we tossed us in jail for allegedly revealing state secrets adam and i were put in solitary confinement sounds right next to each other
. but the constitutional court ruled that we had done nothing wrong and ordered our release but i had one doesn't care. i'm on a couple of big i don't accept the court's ruling. and i don't respect the law so. he went after my newspaper from her yet early one. morning while i was out of the country ten journalists were arrested. six. am finally how are you you know it's good that you do that you did and our colleagues in jail. they're doing fine they're optimistic but now the authorities are using handcuffs we've never seen that before. where the way. you lay our. the situation in the prisons is
a lot different now than it used to be. each yeah even on the prison grounds. because i'm clear that's how they treat our colleagues. there it's happened to some of them. that's offered to. carry out his keeping track of the days that our colleagues have spent in jail and one hundred fifty other journalists have been imprisoned just for telling the truth most newspapers toe the government line. they've been told to portray arson as terrorists. this headline says terrorists in germany support all of turkey's enemies. to get as. they were always different factions within the turkish media. there were those who supported the government and those who opposed it. but we've never seen
a case where journalists would be arrested for expressing political opinions. mystic pressure but now some journalists are even calling for some of our colleagues to be killed or that it. would have a shame the rush. this is seven scott the wife of my friend most are can't go we used to enjoy meals together now we share our pain. seven she is on her way to visit my son in prison. as one of turkey's best known caricaturists uses his arm to defend his country. because action says human rights will light our way. to get rid of the courts.
get rid of the parliament and i can certainly rule wants left. up with a response like this that's simply ridiculous no moral person would allow this they charge me and send me to jail for drawing cartoons because of the other. seven she's allowed to visit her husband once a week when they can talk by phone for an hour separated by a glass panel all turkish colleagues have been accompanying her we asked them whether our media coverage had had any effect on new sockets trial or on prison visiting hours seven she says conditions in the prison have become a lot less. shares they have a courtyard that's twenty metres square last week i saw something that made me sad . in the court. the prisoners used to be able to see the sky but now they've
covered the yard. it was the only place where the prisoners could feel at least a little free and now it's gone. that made me very sad. the prison is located in the city of symlin free about sixty kilometers west of istanbul the closer you get the more police you see we're not allowed to film here . this is the first time john has seen the video footage taken by all turkish. yeah this is a more thorough cannot grow sneery during our prison there was a ration there can you imagine how many people were allowed to come there and make the most rationing over the place to sleep unity. was. god. and you know you're not allowed to
go there. it's unbelievable. your friends who are third thing they're your friends colleagues for in their hand for the new. rig and can you imagine that. you know coming there to visit me and now they're in with the. three of them and the other will to me insignia three of them well. some say there are now more intellectuals in this prison than anywhere else in turkey it will be in the earlier that you know. yesterday was especially difficult valentine's day is three days away it'll be the first time in years that we've spent that day of heart. on the prison phone so wish me
a happy valentine's day. it was very touching. and i'll never forget it. i'm on my way to visit a friend who came to berlin before i got here he's a doctor and film director he publicly diagnosed president out of one as having a narcissistic personality disorder he was charged with libel so he got on a plane and flew to. the plane of the last minute i got to my father's funeral and then went straight to the airport. when i got on the plane there were still dirt from the grave site on my shoes. we have left behind the graves of our loved ones we've left behind a piece of our sounds and our lives as they once were. a limb is our refuge but
it's also our place of exile you can be happy here but also sad we can't be peaceful. but also dangerous. here in berlin mostafa opened a school for actors is making good use of his experience. the school is for young turkish people many of them dream of finding work in turkish television. while john watches his friend at work i try to interview some of the turkish students but they don't feel like talking they'd found out that we were coming and debated whether they should talk to us some said that if they appeared in the same reporters john it could hurt their careers. because they want to. and if somebody says that he or she was in the course of a job once they've been caught or. from the portrait. these
kinds of things together is a. mostafa he's working on a new project. it's a film about the twenty thirteen taksim gazey park protests in istanbul showing how the turkish people rose up against repression. is the summer girls little. human being and how they had their hopes dashed. book. or starve i was among those who tended to the wounded.
only to do. good work. we didn't leave our country our country left us. if we just needed a bit it's not a good feeling gen ducasse of the day i know you don't you work for your country for half a century then. you fight for a better society and a better world. the hurry reveals and then this country that you've worked so hard for joss's but also here in germany where he now lives in exile. or hunch i'm sorry was a mayor in turkey's kurdish region he believes he could be killed by islamic state supporters or by agents of the turkish secret police. action so has defended the rights of turkey's kurdish minority. that's prompted
threats from turkish nationalists here in germany. he never leaves his home without a bodyguard. i don't go out very often and when i do it's only for half an hour or an hour but i'm happy to be able to do that. so it's a good. chance someone has been living in germany since twenty fifteen i want to find out what the situation was like in turkey before he left. turkey my homeland has been wracked by p.k. terrorist attacks for thirty five years the p.k. demands autonomy for turkey's kurds last year forty four people were killed in an attack in istanbul in twenty thirteen the government and the p.k. had agreed on
a ceasefire. but hopes for a peaceful settlement were shattered in twenty fifteen after a suicide attack in the kurdish region. the assailant was said to be a member of islamic state but the p.k. k. blamed the turkish government the violence continued. the p.k. call for self-government in kurdish said his p.k. fighters took up positions on the streets the turkish government viewed all this as a declaration of war. in the kurdish cities that had declared autonomy were raised to the ground this video was shot by a turkish soldier government troops fired at civilians who were transporting the wounded under a white flag that people who were filming these events. this
video was never shown on turkish state t.v. . or hunch ansal also treated the wounded even though he's a dentist by profession. that's what we called ambulances sometimes they showed up sometimes not a good first of the two there was a news blackout at the time i thought what was it really like that is the new view of the battle you call an ambulance and they'd say we're not coming over they told us to bring the wounded to them well how do you do that if. people were bleeding out so you pick them up. and then you'd be arrested for trying to help. you through . one thousand five hundred people were killed over three months in thirty cities and towns half a million people were forced to leave their homes.
was one of them he was suspended from his job as man and his chance with supporting a terrorist organization leading members of his political party the h.t.t.p. were arrested. it is signed it that he had to leave the country there's no armed conflict here obviously but chancellor is terribly lonely he left his wife and children behind in turkey. other turks in germany have been persecuted for speaking out. we need latif accuser gave a sociologist who is now living in frankfurt in turkey she supported efforts to end the fighting between the kurds and the government. that prompted a sharp attack from president ever the one. i'm
a bot. these fake intellectuals' accuse the government of carrying out a massacre there are no numbers are. you an election rolls are not educated you are evil white people and these. are the ones remarks had serious consequences for that she felt. she shows me some social media comments from the same day at the time she was working at a university in the town of dujail suddenly she was targeted by critics. coverage of ed once comments spread like wildfire and there are no words that make
that a regional t.v. station portrayed as a p.k. k. terrorist at all and you know what's particularly appalling is that this sociologist who works at the university and dues just has actually put her name on a petition. latifa lives in this dormitory room in frankfurt she feels safe here but she had to leave her home in turkey and quit her job she no longer has contact with her students and colleagues people she really liked it all disappeared in just two days. on wednesday evening my friend said it was too dangerous for me to stay induced or . to say they didn't want me to leave on the regional bus. or that they sized up the situation and then drove me to the nearby province of is met by. their i took a bus to istanbul. passion magnus' of what the next morning i found out that the
authorities had issued a warrant for my arrest they searched my home and my office at the university and they claimed that i disappeared even though they could have easily reached me by phone so they issued a warrant and then they passed the story along to the press. which. latifa wasn't arrested but she was banned from working and from leaving the country . later she secretly made her way to frankfurt she describes the situation of the university before she left us that some of my colleagues didn't actually speak out against me but they just sort of disappeared from my life i was pretty upset about that. people on social media took me off their list of friends. people who had phoned me every day to chat he just stopped calling that really hurt.
all. just because you all until i want to turn the authorities campaign against us had created an atmosphere of fear among my colleagues that they were afraid to talk to me or speak up on that it's a it's only vehicle and i think that this is the main reason why we're in the situation we are now a little sis in the song the. gucci university in frankfurt has awarded le t. for a two year grant. it's a political gesture to show that germany will support exiles who've been oppressed by all thora tarion regimes. but turkey says the german government is harboring terrorists. turkey's domestic political troubles are now playing out in germany. in
february twenty seventh turks in the western german city of all bahamas and campaigned in favor of a referendum that would give president ahead one more executive powers the turkish prime minister attended a big rally there jan didn't go because of the charges against him in turkey german reporters once exactly welcome there either. there are means freedom or one means freedom. neutral columbus and that's a lot of what we've heard several certainly noticed that some people are criticizing the turkish government without any justification all. lloyd we've invested so much in germany some of us have lived here for decades we pay taxes and contribute to this country's prosperity we feel betrayed and sliced into god's rest was what i'm after i don't know why but since the one nine hundred eighty s. the german media has portrayed turkish organizations in germany the turkish people
amateurs. nation in a negative light really a negative charges most of the people at the rally believe everyone is doing a great job some told me that when they went back home to visit they found that the government had improved the health care system and builds new roads. there are about three million turks in germany but a larger percentage of them vote for everyone's political party then do turks in turkey and that's been the case for years. that's why john took the referendum campaign very seriously. some people who were opposed to the referendum held rallies. means no turkish but there were just a few dozen people at this one some demonstrations were even cancelled due to low turnout to. these groups were supported by private funding while the prayer referendum groups were backed by president ed one's political party.
many people here are willing to criticize the government on camera. but we found the feel when this private club level that it will. hire you know shriya country that i don't want to dictatorship i live well here with four of their finances authority and see it on t.v. criticizing turkey we could get into trouble. it's not good. in the end it's a dictatorship now. but every day we went to turkey we'd probably be arrested. it's difficult for john to find supporters in germany most turkish reporters don't want to work with him in the beginning i was dreaming of what i was thinking of that i mean there are two thousand three thousand he took his journeys into. and
there would be no problem to find out people to work with it but now i understand that it's not that easy because it's then just for them when they they feel threatened by the government because of that and i can understand that but it is of course in the beginning it was a bit disappointing for me. in january twenty seventeen turkish journalist heikal baghdad moved to berlin to work with jan he left his wife and children back in turkey. heiko has visited delhi and often. cited you will not done because see if you were me this was just another trip. i'll do some work here and then go back home. that's what i plan to do religiously she rejects him i think the things in turkey will calm down soon and i can go back and live in peace. but i didn't book a return flight this time because i feel strange should. i go tells me that he is
concerned about his family will be all sorry to take away his wife's passport as they did with chan's wife. heiko banda he used to have his own t.v. show and he was often a guest on top programs but not anymore show was cancelled he's half armenian and half greek and an opposition journalist puts him high on the list of people whom the turkish authorities consider dangerous. there are more and more friends against him. dated less to plan the dobie even people i knew personally started making threats young people who live near me. watched them grow up to be threatened by young people it was really depressing.
hiker's family are now on their way to berlin is looking forward to their arrival. and the. usual use it. took me to check this band that would do better when they get in here look for exams if you don't and when i can start looking around for an apartment i'm going to take care of all the other stuff cause the end of organising is to have them here all of it always taking it which is such that the younger ones ok i'll talk to the older one pulls into what he understands on egypt with a little which i think he'll understand. but i'll explain that we'll just have to make the best of things and most of the time said he would and what about school. start working on it you them. imagine that you wake up one morning and every think that you had is gone you know living in a foreign country where you don't speak the language that's what we've been forced
to do we are far away from our homeland and i'm loved ones we have to live with threats we try to have a comma anger and our sorrow with our work. heiko was a welcome addition to our team we got started right away. none match what has been on my dish which i came here to take a break and have a normal life just going that's what i ended up working for chandan the most wanted man in turkey or. maybe i did it because i'm a fighter i haven't been able to relax much so far but in the middle. john shows me the threats that have been posted on social media.
he says he pays little attention to them. how do you react when someone points a gun a tree you have two options you can either be afraid of everything or you can be afraid of nothing. i haven't been afraid of anything since someone tried to shoot me outside the courthouse in istanbul mom live t.v. . at the official opening of the old you could use internet platform earlier this year security was very tight. but i hope this platform will give us the opportunity to do our profession freely.
but there were no police on hand just a few days later when a pro-government turkish journalist tried to break into john's office for an interview. then we came to berlin to meet with turned and are but he didn't want to talk to us either by phone or email. and this is all we know. it's fifty minutes to the city center it's called place. as we did everything here . third leg of the invitation because there are. so no protection there own if something like. raids has happened to our. office who will be the disposal of. them in.
their. you can appropriate he's going to be. mrs john. order to make. it was it a risky. thing. we were told that police cannot do anything. this really goes to show that. despite the danger john will appear in public to support denise eugen the german turkish journalist now in jail in turkey. people in these cars are demanding his release john feels that he must speak out on eugenics behalf and that those who oppose president everyone should stick together in germany and in turkey. thank you yeah there was a protesting campaign during our prison. in january i guess he came to see
leave it to protests are worthless and stayed there for a couple of hours. and the other day there was the news about him. then you know it's the protesters. in germany. more and more journalists in turkey are being jailed more people are being put on trial and we will continue to write about my son to speak out to people in our homeland because so many there cannot. on the evening of the referendum i did one appeared on the balcony of his palace and he looked more worried than we did on april sixteenth nearly half the voters said no to giving him more power despite the crackdown on his opponents and all the manipulation. of that point we started to smile. does john consider the referendum result
a victory for the opposition i feel victorious really yeah i mean. at least we saw that the people is behind us i mean we are together with them. which is such. the results was indeed close but the opposition still lost. many turks in germany celebrated the result. president add one won by a wider margin here than he did in turkey. i did some research on the german results only half of the turkish voters registered in germany took part in the referendum but four hundred thousand voted yes and by so doing we can democracy in turkey. everyone intended to divide the turkish german community and to intimidate referendum opponents and that's just what. and on there's a huge divide actually uses the tooling isn't there here either for or against
conscripts for lago there's no in between missions neither side wants to have anything to do with the other. i'm quite concerned by the fact that many turkish germans feel closer to president ed one than they do to chancellor america how do we get people to take democracy and freedom of speech more seriously. that's a decisive issue for germany for turkey for europe and for all of us in the turkish exiles aren't going to win this fight by themselves. if european people need to keep that lot is going on in turkey which. they will increase their war there is going to be less so much more if it g.'s into it and also turkish people will become refugees soon. people
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