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the entire country champion. for the last sixty years. for mines. this is news coming to you live from berlin i'm terry martin today german chancellor angela merkel prepares for her first real showdown in parliament as lawmakers need to discuss the budget and a host of other controversial issues lawmakers in germany are taking off what's said to be a contentious debate you're seeing chancellor merkel entering the parliament there
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. now the result of this. and one welcome this is the w. news i'm terry martin joining me in studio is me now our political correspondent because we're going to be talking about a bonus talk debate that's happening live today here in the german capital lawmakers are kicking off what set to be a contentious debate on the country's budget and the result could resonate beyond germany's borders you are looking at live pictures from inside the german parliament now with the debate set to get underway shortly german chancellor angela merkel is confronting a host of forty issues with debt defense and e.u. spending high on the agenda you're seeing the leaders of the opposition the main opposition party there just now. they will also be. the king the chancellor is
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expected to face stiff opposition from the right wing of the party of course the other opposition parties in the bonus talk of funding for refugees among other things. by bill the leader co-leader of the all right if the party has gone to the podium and we're going to listen to president colleagues the budget is the very nerve of the nation and this is why it has to be hidden from the alis of the citizens of. cardinal richelieu. one said this sentence and it seems that this is what you have been doing for decades because right on time with the presentation of the budget you start to hide instead of making everything clear to your citizens . and in doing so you have the feeling that you are not committed to the german people because the german people is what you
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would like to choose for yourself. you are talking about breaking belief in god but to be honest taxpayers are sitting on the deep debts that generations to come will and eric but nevertheless the ministers of finance such as yesterday keep lying to us year after year how can you do that well quite simply the federal budget does not contain all the costs and expenses because for example where would you find the budget well you know we're approximately thirty billion are transferred to brussels from germany and not a word is said about that and after the bracks it this some will be even bigger liabilities and warranties for other european nations bags and rescue funds well nothing was said about that apart from other. schemes that mean that we pay for our exports ourselves and this is. only up hard to all of the overall
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deaths that are published there are a shadow deaths that you pass on to the next generation and they will have to bear the burden of that there is a balance of generations that amounts to seven million viewers. trillion euros excuse me and that will have to be borne by the future generations and that includes everything coming from the pension funds and other public expenses and my question is is that responsible. if. you talk about responsibility but the truth to be true you are not acting responsibly and no taxation without representation no taxation without representation and common sense by the parliament as was the case in every palmetto a democracy. that you are there were presented to all of the people you have been
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elected to the german parliament and it is your task to be in control of the basic budgetary issues the german parliament the bundestag must not give away its budget responsibility by passing on the responsibility to other stakeholders it is what the german constitutional court states but there is the rescue fund the reserve permanent finance mechanism that you agreed to and you happily agreed to them and will. miss and there were no disagreement to the transfer of german tax money and no disagreement through a european minister of finance on the contrary you want to transfer responsibility to finance and brussels now using tax money that you did not earn on ladies and gentlemen thank you. socially just budget just what you claim well germany. has the
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highest tax and levy money burden of our european states and especially small and medium sized companies and families have to bear the burden of that and their savings melt away and the government talks about it negative zero zero zero interest me all the see so the nation encourages debts using the money of the taxpayers and never the less you talk about the break even what is just about that what is socially just about that ladies and gentlemen and here you're exploiting the taxpayer is as old princes do while the infrastructure of this country is coming apart the nation is not capable of protecting its citizens any more and never the less you spend billions and billions on
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fostering people coming to our country and on the sources systems in twenty years want to find pension ists will have to fall back on basic. grants even though they did work all their lives and now that cannot really make ends meet two examples as the guy. who was a miner and the seventeen some of them worked with opel. she paid into the german pension scheme for years and years and now he collects bottles and football stadiums so as to make ends meet so. there is another example a person who. was the person who guarded for some of bin laden has never contributed to the german social scheme and now he gets two hundred euro's per month from our government and has been doing so for to. years and if you ask me
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this is it just is that you are responsible for so you believe that this is a future aria to budget but on the contrary what you are doing is you're destroying the very opportune it is of the future generations the very basis of our work are the people who live and work here but it's not only people who live and work here now but it's the people who will live and work here in the future and yes we do have and responds ability for people for families who have been living in our country for a longer time and these are the ones you serve because it is the task of a nation to guard the wealth that the nation has built up over a year is. managed carefully instead of just throwing it all out of the window because it is about german citizens and it is not about you. since nine hundred seventy two in germany less and less children are born less than
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the people die for the survival of their work commission this is a problem what have you done about it nothing well at least nothing of effect because what you do is your place your bet on compensator re migration this is what you say muslim migrations have a very good birth rate it looks quite different and the number of inhabitants by criminal migrants does not seem to be a problem for you but i can tell you that we bought our cars and women in the wearing of the veil and naive migrants they will not contribute to our well being to our economic growth and the social welfare state and nukes you needn't be wall of. i gratian and
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migration as we see aren't far away from reality because germany is a mark reiter e country for unskilled laborers while very well educated people leave it so the question is who will pay our pensions in the future who will pay yours will pay yours mr hoffa. sure migraine gems you don't think so because citizens you do not seem to care about what you care about is managing the downfall of our nation and sometimes we even get the feeling that you're trying to trigger it but seemingly this seems to be of value if what means a female president follows the slogan in germany you're a piece of shit and nobody worries about it and club you hold as one of the presidents of the wealthy so i guess we do not have to surprised by anything here
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and this palm entering a building on the contrary the a.f.d. you stands for responsibility of justice and a future worth living and this is why we ask for you to put all the numbers on the table we launch to safeguard our social welfare state and we want to shape the future a generation no replacement by uncombed trolled migration sometimes migration from countries disregarding women well at least does not seem to be the way in our wealth can only be safeguarded if our borders are safe and we invest in them and the few generations to come third point just tax is the middle incomes have to pay adequate taxes so there is a free sum of taxes that we could increase to two thousand euros that would be fair because it cannot be the case that a skilled worker. already pays the peak interest rate and
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i think that now the time has come for an honest and just tax relief and let us safeguard our suffering in u.t. because the control of our budget belongs to berlin and not to brussels and i would like to quote we conclude with a quote by a former czech president busy man. and the quote is. should you live in one tree. were you are a criminal for fishing without a permit but not for passing borders illegally without a passport then you can say that this is a country governed by idiots. and that was a lease by the co-leader of the opposition party the far right after the party
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that's in the parliament for the first time she's just spoke on the occasion of the discussion general discussion general debate about the budget within the studio. she's watching this with me we can't you just saw these vital deliver her speech there what does she have to say what struck you just actually received rebuff from . the former finance minister and president of parliament basically ford didn't discriminating women with a headscarf so he was reprimanded there briefly it took her about four minutes to get to the issue of migration and this really highlights the change of tone of the alternative for germany here and become much more aggressive let's listen to some talk that she has to say. ladies and gentlemen. i think everyone is able to clearly see that the two thousand and eighteen budget.
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and the medium term finance planning has been showing very good data again which is extraordinarily pleasant. at times it seems to be something that we take for granted but the fact that we've seen the highest employment rate since german reunification and since twenty fourteen we haven't heard any new debt that is other but something we should take. effort and. next year for the first time since two thousand and two overall it's. take us to where the european stability pact has referred us to which is below sixty percent and in twenty twelve after the international finance prices the overall debt was at about eighty percent. and that we managed to do this means that it's generational just it's nothing else and that's what matters to the
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generations living here on this planet after us. and i think the international. monetary fund. has just been in consultations was germany and has said that the german economy was impressive in its development. this cold room for maneuver should be used to increase the craft potential and state investment into infrastructure. should be carried out investment in education should be reinforced pursers it should be celebrated and that's precisely what we've fixed in our coalition agreement and this is what you see reflected in our budget so this is what we find international support for. but to colleagues. independently of the very good figures and values ever. a day.
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worrying news come to us from all parts of the world unfortunately also from those parts of the we're all very close to european union. and the terrible images of syria of toxic gas attacks. the resigned of the nuclear agreement on the part of the united states. bombarding in the golan hills. is what we see every day every day violations of the cease fire agreement and ukraine and terror attacks in paris and indonesia last weekend. israel sees a day to celebrate and still we see so many dead and injured so we've been following these headlines every day that show was just how.
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this world it is how confusing it can be and still we will not let anything hold us back after the arab spring which many called the arab earthquake. this region at our doorstep has become. so troubled the war in syria has sent twenty eleven. gadhafi is. resigning from power. an explosion of crime a. war in iraq genocide the yes on the sides. and so many other events that have really shaken us profoundly so the security policy environment in our neighborhood has changed. with these this means implications of his for us and they show us that. one measure of our own will not
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be able to grant our security which is why we're now aware of the fact that. our security. is absolutely connected to our neighbors security of. germany needs to be embedded in alliances being a member of the european union and of nato which is why inspired have all the difficulties we're seeing in these days still the transatlantic relationship skills being mostly importance. to you but the transatlantic relations need to be able to live with the differences we see this these days we see that with the. cancellation of the new coke agreement through the united states we had negotiated a decade for this agreement yes agreement is all but ideal but
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iran according to all we know from the international. negotiations is abiding by this agreement there was unanimous consent to it from the un security council and this is why great britain france germany and the member states of the european union believe that it is not right to cancel this agreement at this moment in time. that's doing this so this does not mean i only chance that we can agree to what has been doing another rense we have to speak about more. we have to say about the interventions of iran and syria amongst other things we have to speak about so many other issues. but the question that we have to answer right here.
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and which we give a different answer to your plan of united states is. are we in a better situation as we counsel this agreement or are we in a better situation if we stick to it i believe that the latter is the case that we have to do this and i say this expressly because the. nuclear arms program would be a danger to our security and i think that we are safer if we stick to this agreement . with all of them at the police officer so in this way the german federal foreign minister has been in conversations and talks last night again we do need a political situation for syria we know that. people's lives in syria. is terrible at this moment in time half of syrian citizens are on the run by
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now. a big part of them within syria and others have left the country a part of them has come to germany. germany has participated in the coalition against against dosh also through as surveillance and other measures but in the meantime the syrian civil war and the war on. islam mystic terrorism has become a regional war of incredible extent which without russia without turkey iran without saudi arabia and without jordan. and also without europe cannot be solved but what's also true is just i. also heard just cries by german connaught adenauer stiff that.
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just spoke about this. it is also that europe will also be affected. by it and it hasn't contributed to the finding a political solution to the problem until now. small and this is why it is so important to be part of a small group france great britain germany jordan saudi arabia and the u.s. are trying to find a joint solutions on the other hand. the so-called assign a group turkey iran and russia needs to be involved in the talks and this can mean that at the end of the day we will have to have to and be able to better our help mr de mistura the u.n. mediator and his work and i think there will be a stronger political commitment and he will get there. and then the effect
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and then there's another crime flick close by that we have dealt a lot with russia and ukraine that only can be a political solution we can do it on military terms we do this and various formats we try to build the minsk the green meant wish life again even though it's a bit frustrating to see that every night. that. i have been very porting violations over and over again i would like to thank them because for many many years they have worked in this difficult position thanks a lot to them. germany. has always followed a natural park approach we know that we can only solve these problems by working together by finding political solutions and. by seeking
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followers to force you but only as a last resort military force alone will not be able to solve the problem so it's symbolic for our coalition agreement to say more development expenses and more cost. increasing both items to show that networking approach is central of importance to this government's. listing of. but we need to abide to obligations on all sides so our quota obligation has to be met on the one hand. and the whales targets nato targets and need to be met on the other hand also and we fixed and the coalition agreement also. federal finance minister i quote him he said yesterday that the defense policy concept will not just be good to because it's there. and not just good.
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because we have it but. what will be do if forces cannot live up to their commitments. quickly and that's why you saw it let's just compare the two thousand and six white paper which be approved in our great coalition that white paper concentrated on foreign missions. and peter she talks back that you know what germany's security will also be decided by out at the hindu kush and we defended there it's correct it still is. but because of the two thousand and fourteen events. and because of what happened so right at our doorstep in syria for example. nato decided in twenty four eighteen and by the way that. we included this in the two thousand and sixteen white paper the next to the
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foreign missions also national defense situations have you know come to be in the focus. so let's speak about the challenge that our armed forces are facing of course also the german government the challenge. it is to make sure that we will not just. so equip our soldiers on the foreign missions that they are going to be able to carry them out well but that i have the same time at home because of a national and alliance based defense obligations we will provide the equipment there and the infrastructure needed and that means for example as surveillance on the baltic sea which means also the security concept for poland and the baltic states. and this means our commitment instead in poland and in other countries we need to be able. to send troops to the place
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needed quickly and we can't just equip our overseas mission and our broader missions but we need to equip everyone. where it is needed that's one of the challenges offered down our forces and the second challenge is the challenge of digitize ation you need to take that in as well this means to digitize the german armed forces structures and it's also about the cyber capability is the need to establish the cyber command because hybrid while fire is part of the military doctrine for example in washington it's been officially stated they're very good at it and we need to be able to react to that to respond to that. this this is why it's not about. armaments but it's about good equipment. i think we should speak about this. should speak about it with the german forces
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officer. and our. commission i will issue a report on that and we will then enter into that i ladies and gentlemen all that has been showing us. all that has been showing us. that it's. off course. foreign policy is built on multilateralism of one hundred multilateralism is and great pressure right now that we know. as multi lot like to listen is under pressure europe needs to take its fate into its own hands more than before. and this is why we need a european adults or and it was good news that within a brief period of time after the shock we received when great britain decided to leave the european union the first thing we did was to get
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a unity project up and running that we've been thinking about for ten years and that's structured cooperation in europe and you know we can see the first projects germany is in charge of some of them but the actual message is different if you take a look at the number of weapon systems of the member states of the european union then you count the hundred and seventy eight and if you take a look at the number of the weapon systems of the united states and that number is thirty three point four percent of their gross domestic project product is spent on defense in the european union we have an average of less than two per cent and it was one hundred seventy eight systems you cannot be efficient so in the long run the target is to become more efficient with homogeneous systems and then in training you can also be more copper to you and this is
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a new important ally in minutes and a european pillar. also on the second major caps that europe has to shoulder is the question of how we. migration and this is a topic that will be with us for years or even decades with our neighbors and syria but also with our neighbors in africa and this is why it is correct to work two words a common european asylum system it was correct to introduce from texas but six hundred holy so men and women at frontex will not be able to protect the borders of the european union and this is why one of the task of the future is to strengthen frontex and equip them in a better way and of germany has to and will contribute to this task. and we
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also know that closing ourselves off will not work if we do not at the same time counter the sources of migration i have mentioned the fight against us in iraq. probably what's called this the marshall plan for africa which i second is going to have a big task and a big task once again it means a european task our european development only so it is not always efficient so what we have to do is we have to really come tribute to the development of africa and there are two sides to that humanitarian aid is one of them and we have seen it experienced it when the the refugee is in jordan and lebanon did not have money for food or to some of their children to school here the pressure you are immensely but if you now if you take a look at the budget if you and aid organizations then the truth is that we do
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a lot more but on an international basis we have not done enough if you are an h c r the world food programme all their budgets show a dramatic deficit and of course we have to make a contribution too so that situation. but of course this does not mean that the development budget is converted into a humanitarian aid to because development is not taking place sufficiently and then it is also correct to ask ourselves if our means and methods off development aid are sufficient you know classic development will not be sufficient we have to find a way to. make and the economy stronger and how we can generate more investments in africa but of course this goes back to what mr schauble did during
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his g twenty presidency we have to create a good investment climate in africa because this is the only way to trigger economic development because government money alone will not do it. didn't love it and of course thirdly in europe we have to strengthen the economic and monetary union we have mastered our crisis today we have a situation where all european your world members are back on the growth track. the number of jobs is increasing but of course this does not sufis because currently we know that the european central bank is pursuing a policy of that will not continue like that for ever and this is why we now have the task of strengthening the eurozone and make it crisis proof of course there will be intense discussion is about that and of course we will have to talk about the national responsibility because some of the poly soon in europe are
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not common policies of course we cannot sign a trade agreement on our own but of course we are in charge of our labor policy of this is a national responsibility budget is a national responsibility competition and permits are mostly national responsibilities and. this is why first and foremost it is our task to contribute on the bases of the member states to make competitive lives better but not compared to the european average but compared to what is needed globally. about it. but the situation is such that there is a global view on a common. monetary union that states that there will be a responsibility for everyone we have to know that we all stand behind the euro and this is why it is important to continue developing the european stability mechanism
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to words is something like an international monetary fund that we can do that on our own and this is why i agree that we have to reduce the risk on a national basis is if this has been done we will have a common backstop that could be located at the e.s.m. as the minister of finance stated yesterday and. then it is our task to consider how the conversations of the euro zone and the stability of the eurozone can be guaranteed and currently talks are in a way because we have two projects we have the euro zone project and its financial equipment and investment budget or similar as we have put it in our coalition agreement but we have the consultations towards a mid-term equipment and of course our minister of finance is generous but of course he's also bound by law so contributing significantly more to the euro option
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budget and the european budget and the german budget while meeting stability criteria that is not easy and this is why with france we have to talk about the interactions what does the budget have to calm the tane because after the brics it . eighty five percent of. your rose on budget relay means and what will we need on top of that these talks are underway and until in june we willing come to a complication and this is the only open question that remains to be answered and many suggesting rooms have to be made so i think we have rest quite far. even and ladies and gentlemen. from other viewers you are watching a live discussion of what is type of debate in germany's parliament the right to just here in berlin chancellor merkel has been speaking now for about twenty
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minutes she is addressing the full bonus tog on the occasion of the budget it is a made major budget debate is happening right now with us in the studio is make it across our political correspondent it is watching all this with me became a person a thing that the chancellor would focus so much on foreign policy and defense policy in her in her speech. yes basically she just talked about particularly how to respond in this long awaited response to a man remark or plans to strengthen the eurozone and she said that one of the key open questions now really was how much more germany would put into the e.u. budget and how much it would actually use to secure that euro zone so she's not exactly talking about bread and butter issues that are being perceived as such here in germany although of course these are issues that are much more global that would in the end affect every single german citizen and she basically came after
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a speech by these vital from the far right of turnitin for germany because it's the largest opposition group in parliament she had the first right to speak here today and she took only four minutes to really get to the whole issue of migration in germany and pretty much setting costs for migration against needs here of the german population talking about future generations having to pay for what is being spent right now while this is an issue actually that is much older than the so-called migration crisis in twenty fifteen but quite clearly a very aggressive tone from the there from the ultimate to for germany in the german chancellor basically not responding mapping out what she perceives to be those much bigger challenges here in germany so really there's a question that she refuses to engage in that kind of rhetoric that we've seen in recent weeks with the elton to for germany for the first time this far right party being in parliament and very often actually most of the time pushing
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lawmakers to really a much more aggressive exchange you also saw the leader of the green group. in gazing in kind of a verbal very loud verbal exchange with at least five or so we see very heated exchanges which is so are not in the character of the german chancellor at all. and basically she refuses to engage she wants to map out something much larger almost have to remind ourselves that this really is about individual budget lines for the german chancellor for defense as well and. to other countries given that she waited twenty minutes before she started talking about money within the eurozone because if we're talking budget and this is supposed to be a budget debate budget debate is going to continue in the going to start through friday . why did she spend the first twenty minutes talking about syria and ukraine and
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the nuclear deal and large foreign policy issues that or you believe are not really budget line issues that that would belong in a budget to eat you know going to find out for me why she makes this particular choice but it very much fits into the past and how. to see the problems that need to be tackled here you can actually take segments from this . we've we've heard many of them before we think she was knew she was there yet but she was very specific on what those sticking points are leading up to the year a budget budget that has to be decided this soon is she says that really this whole question of what goes into which part i mean there's a recognition here that they are there should be a move to something from the european stability mechanism which basically was invented in the in the midst of this crisis this financial crisis here in the e.u. and in particular in the euro zone to
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a more overarching more longer term. projects really of which is more like the international monetary fund so that was rather concrete but at the same time it is it is have build up of challenges of mapping out the kind of context operates in and that she does this time and time again as she works the list down those challenges and this is also something she gets a lot of chris. isn't for in comparison to the french president for instance who maps out a vision and then go comes to those talent is speaking of the french president manuel mccall who put forward this idea about having an eurozone finance minister about setting up a budget and whatnot which is quite controversial all this is still under discussion is transamerica mention she said this would be interest or viewers if you're following this particular discussion that in june they hope to have reach some sort of conclusion with these talks about how they're going to craft any changes within the euro zone but getting back to the foreign policy which chancellor merkel again spent the first twenty minutes of her speech focusing on i
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want to get your impression of what she was saying particularly about the transatlantic about transatlantic relations right now because this is a this is a watershed moment for transatlantic relations particularly between germany and the united states she said all that point that. i can find the quote from it she was saying that that the transatlantic relations must be able to live with these differences why do you think the chancellor merkel is so confident that the transatlantic relationship can still be maintained within the context of what's happening regarding the red nuclear deal the paris agreement on climate change and some of the other trade agreements that are currently under stress. leaving her personal convictions aside really that this is. a cultural bryza political but it's because both sides don't really have any other option than to make it work despite the five that u.s.
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president donald trump has decided to leave this iran nuclear deal i mean we've really seen the europeans for the fust time openly and quite clearly taking a completely opposing view and acting upon it they met with iran's foreign minister zarif in brussels last night and clearly there's an intention here to break away on the policy aspect still they know. they need to make a work she's picking up some degree we're going to left off when he talked about the german foreign policy being emancipated from the united states during his term let's return now to that one is tied to beit is taking place in german parliament right now chancellor merkel is still addressing the gathering at the parliament right now let's listen in with health this is what i'm saying to our first day of parliament member because it's his birthday today and. we need access for our citizens to all administratively offers and of course
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this is a major task and we need a national educational a famous both in schools and when it comes to vocational training. workers. who must change because technical changes of course have a massive effect on what will be needed in the future and already now we have a high in need for skilled workers and this is why it is important to have a migraine to realise workers because currently it's not as social benefits and everything else the problem is that you cannot find anyone in germany and we have to give support here so that the industry can stay in germany instead of having to move elsewhere where they can find the skilled workers they need and ladies and gentlemen for us. and this will be a major effort and by the way i'm very grateful that the coalition polman to
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a group stop decided to set up two on commissions on digitize ation on the one hand one dealing with artificial intelligence ladies and gentlemen for twenty thirty years we have been working on artificial intelligence quite successfully but currently we find ourselves in a situation where we may have. lost the connection to developments why because two developments merge there were artificial intelligence and algorithms ass such plus the capability of processing. vast amounts of data so artificial intelligence can only develop well if it can make use of a wealth of data and when it comes to the vast amount of data and now we're talking about the basic data protection regulation which sets how we use
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data because often we provide data often in an anonymous way but. when it comes to artificial intelligence we need data and at the same time we have to be restrictive when it comes to data it's a bit like cultivating cows without feeding them and this is why these commissions and ethics data is important but the and should not be the result should not be that data have to protected everywhere but we can use them in a way and they have become an important factor in our social market economy so. are a very important fact in our social market economy and that means essentially that we have to really think things from the taxation system to the social security systems because we see the consequences of course it's not a case for google and amazon and how they are called do not pay taxes here but
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saying well let is just invent a virtual production site and then we tax it as if it was real so what will be the consequences we are one of the big export nations so those with their production sites in china you know or somewhere else will say ok these are real production sites let's tax them as well and this is why we are so. hesitant when it comes to certain suggestions that have been made not because we don't believe that it's important to pay taxes but if i have a taxation law that. has the shape of the. income tax law and then i have a new taxation law and then at the end of the day i do not you know if it is a car that is a rolling internet or if it is something that belongs into the old taxation system so i have to find a compatible system this is why the o.e.c.d. a work is so important and we cannot just try it saying let's just try this for two years now we have to think it far through thorough lee and data will
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have the same value as. work for example and we will have to discuss that and we can invite exports to help us with it so ladies and gentleman. i have spoken about digitize sation links because i think that this is the basis of the promise of wealth and well being and this is all reflected in the budget. i think in that direction we have progress we have established a digital cabinet that will meet before the summer's break we will have a cabinet that. advises us on developments that we do not fully understand yet we have improved the departments in christ showing the project of digitization of the chancellor's office and the result is that every
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minister is in a way a digital minister not only because it goes through all the spheres of society and this is my will have to cooperate and in the near future we will have a session on artificial intelligence where we will try to set out where we are and . to put us in our position where we can say what we are. still missing and where we have to cooperate more for a classic project off for example german and french cooperation and france and germany will meet a dinner in sofia and we will make a proposal as to how disruptive innovation in europe can be handled as a catchword because this is what we also need in europe so ladies and gentlemen our colleague agreement was passed in a mood in an environment. well the mood was adequate if you would like to know. but the mood of course was due to the seriousness of the
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situation and of course we started on the bases of previous work that we had done without admitting it but nevertheless. the environment was such that we were very aware of the fact but the citizens in germany cast a view on life in the form of how does it affect me and not in terms of who is responsible for that and this is of course i'm a member of the c.d.u. i am saying that now it is possible to fund schools not only in financially weak regions but we also said that social residential building will be an issue we know that we will need to copper ration and we have decided to do more for social housing we have to decided to do more for municipal transport infrastructure and colleagues for
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a federal government this is everything but right because in combination with the financial compensation between lender and the federal government the federal government weakens its own financial opportunities and mr shultz has pointed out correctly that if the federal government passes on more to the language or if the transport funding concept for example is passed on to the hands of the lender then of course the federal government is slimmer in that respect and we set this cannot be the case so what we said is we will pass it to two were it can be handled best but then you cannot simply forget about it two weeks later by the way we're not only investing texts or money we will sell the five g. frequences and the problem at the moment is not that there is a lack of money for investments the problem is to find
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a building company and get the permits and this is why we have to speed up the permit and regulation path and here it is. you are watching our special. coverage from the german bund is taught the parliament chancellor merkel is addressing the bonus talk there on the occasion of the general budget debate all this week the german parliament is discussing the the budget with me in the studio as micaela cook though we've been talking about what the chancellor has been been addressing today we also have down at the bonus talk thomas sparrow our political correspondents following the speech of course live for us too and joins us now thomas this is supposed to be a budget debates we've been listening to chancellor merkel talk bell for more than thirty four than half an hour she's given us any insights into what her priorities are. well she has obviously stated some of the key elements when it comes to to her budget priorities not only now but also in the past few years where we're talking
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about a balanced budget whether we're talking about no new dates where we're talking about unemployment but i'm going to very quickly moved from those issues to other issues namely international issues that's something that i found particularly interesting but i think i understand why i'm going to trying to to focus specifically on those asian and that is because she believes that that's something that her government has also believed for many years that germany's stability of the well being of many germans not only depends on internal matters but is also directly linked to what happens you know the parts of the world to the credibility that germany has internationally and to some of the challenges that germany faces abroad whether we're talking about migration with the we're talking about the german french cooperation model whether we're talking about the euro zone whether we're talking about the future of the european union after all those are issues that german government believes are clearly linked to the development of germany and of germans here so that's probably why anglo-american also focused today to
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a large extent on challenges internationally but almost with our viewers from outside of germany are watching this program and they're looking at germany being this the most having the largest economy in europe many other countries in europe are also look. to germany having a very strong economy and they're wondering what germany is going to spend all that money on it has quite a budget surplus understand are there any changes that we can expect from germany in this legislative period given the budget that chancellor merkel's laying. well one of the big questions that has been have been asked internationally is why germany being such a powerful country politically and economically does not have a comparable weight militarily and that is something that i'm going to call on her defense minister was underlining want to change they want to invest more when it comes to to the military although there has been some debate internally in the german government about the specific nature of that development another issue
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another big topic is obviously investment and if you compare germany with other similar countries you will see that the rate of public investment in germany is comparatively low compared to other countries and something that has also been pledged by the government in the coalition agreement investing in schools investing in transport in fact i'm going to medical board was just talking about this a few seconds ago and those are all issues that at least from the government perspective they will want to change however the opposition sees it rather differently they say not enough money is going to be spent in investment for example and there has also been this very big debate in recent days in recent weeks about the role the military should play it's a debate basically focused on whether it is a shortage of funds that plays into this role of the despair or the where it's rather a question of mismanagement and those debates are also debates that we're going to hear today and in the next few days here in the border stark thomas thank you so
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much stand by if you would with us in the series are chief political editor mccabe who's been watching the bonus type of budget debate as well of course. we heard thomas just mentioned the chancellor and her government's other. quite a bit of pressure as we know to germany's military spending it's been one of the big discussions surrounding this budget do you think what the chancellor is laying out here is going to satisfy her partners within nato particularly you know stage you know she was actually at the annual gathering of the board this. just two days ago and there she said that she was a pledge to support that two percent target that was decided among native leaders in wales but that was a couple of years back and germany is now i mean for one point three percent and of one point five percent by twenty twenty five which is seen as a big step now germany is really working against its own cashflow here because there is three hundred forty one billion in the budget for this year and the the
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budgets or the income is rising so the percentage of that income is kind of self-perpetuating in the sense that there is really struggling to meet this kind of demand and it's caught in its own bread take to a certain degree because germany's armed forces are clearly in a crisis it's not just a question of not having enough it's also a question of how the process is work or are dysfunctional within its armed forces and when she was visiting donald trump just a couple of weeks ago she was saying and this was more in a leadership sense in the defense sense saying well we're still growing out of a role here and quite clearly germany still is trying to free itself from a role where it is it is kind of not a leader within nato although it is the second largest troop contributor but is highly dependent on the united states this is also why we see a renewed plays pledged to transatlantic relations to nato here and that initiative
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within the european union called pesca to develop its own strategy and own forces is still rather slow and it's very complex because the europeans. countries all like to support their own defense industries so as long as that doesn't get streamlined it really is a question wes about money go you don't want to be investing billions in a new plane to then decide to years down the line that the e.u. is no longer going to built that. you know if there isn't. she's kind of course in limbo that but it seems that she's always on the defense on these issues and really struggling to put itself ahead of the development of that complex and expensive investment hardware absolutely just remind our viewers we are watching a debate in germany has been just chancellor merkel has just finished speaking and the head of the freedom of the pre democrats the b p party in the parliament he's
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addressing the parliament right now it's a general debate about the budget the session was opened by bibles she is co-leader of the far right if the party which is now the largest all position party in the german parliament they have ninety two seats just to bring you up to date on that in any case we did hear from the spot we got a good taste of what her far right party how her party has changed the tone of debate in germany's been as talking there in the bonus talk for the first time let's listen in to a sound bite from slidell again co-leader of germany's far right party speaking in the parliament just a short while ago. i don't know yet you voted for the ban fund a permanent and automatic finance mechanism and you praised the plans of president emanuel. there was no opposition to the gigantic transfer of german tax money no opposition to any e.u.
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finance minister on the contrary it seems like you can't wait to paulson responsibility to paris and to brussels and that means possibly on tax money they haven't and i'm trying to get. co-leader of germany for a day of the party at least bottle speaking in the parlor just a short while ago. our chief political editor is still with us in the studio. speidel it no matter what one thinks of her politically she does have a background in academic dealing with financial issues she worked for goldman sachs she was she worked for the bank of china do you think her criticism of chancel merkel's approach to dealing with e.u. finance is going to find any resonance among the parliamentarians there well actually she doesn't really need the alternative need to get some stiff resistance on the supportive of vermont plans for instance when it comes to a joint euro zone fight on some of this is she's getting that from her very own c.d.u. party and delegates among so possibly yes so there is
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resistance and there is a deep suspicion here and many also amongst. party that other countries not just fans of particular city that is facing such a banking crisis could be looking for solidarity basically transferring german taxpayers' money to pass their own financial worries that in the banking sector at the same time clearly that is something on the table for him on a call that is forward looking more so that parity into the future joint investment package that is something we clearly hit here from the. she would definitely back what appears to be still unclear and she says one of the last open points when it comes to the budget is how much more money he will put into the e.u. budgets and how much into the eurozone she basically supports this this much in c
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umbrella of the european stability mechanism that was mentioned that and that the only was against it was against the euro it wanted to toss walk back in the sink that's why this part of was founded but she wants to see this transfer and to move permanent stock to something like the international monetary fund for the european union but the big question is what does the element of solidarity mean in this small print and that is something still sitting i've got let's cross back over to the want to talk now where our correspondent is also standing by thomas you've been following that debate of course as well and you heard speidel opening up the discussion she spoke before the chancellor and we'll maybe get into the a little later. talking about all these bottles. discussion on you on the eurozone and eurozone finances this was a party. as was just pointed out that was founded on opposition to the euro and to
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the eurozone does the f.t. in the german parliament find support among the conservatives or at least fiscal conservatives in its positions regarding the euro and the eurozone. probably they do but not necessarily openly at least not from what you can see here if you look at basically every speech given by the f.t. and i list vital speech there was no exception they only get applause from their own ranks and that is obviously because all other parties have rejected the notion that they could eventually one day work with them or that they know they do not want to be seen as collaborating or as working together with the with the f.t. if you look at specifically what i was vital had to say today in that opening speech she took if you will a sentence by germany's finance minister who had described the new budget as future oriented and she said herself that she didn't believe that basically any aspect of the new budget was future oriented she basically stressed that it was going to be
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a problem for germany's future generations whether you're talking about pensions whether you're talking about migration she specifically stress the fact that germany's wealth can only be preserved is that if there is some sort of control of germany's borders if there is some sort of solution to uncontrolled migration so all those aspects that have also been key to the rise of the a.f.p. the f.t. as you often said is a party that was founded on the anti euro platform by the day and quickly developed as also an anti migrant party and that's why those two elements were mentioned today at alice vital speech very much so in fact we think we have a sound bite from this vital speech where she is referring to the migration debate within germany and the. position on that was if we can play that i mean that i can tell you that neither back is no girls wearing headscarves no knife wielding men on welfare and all of the on the good for nothings will not help secure our prosperity economic growth and certainly not
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a welfare state. thomas still with us they're the party what was the reaction when she said that thomas. well there was not much of an applause apart from her own ranks as i have mentioned in fact every time the f.t. has stressed views on migration those views have been met with rejection by most of the other parties here in the in the business side but it is clear that they are the strongest party in opposition have an important voice in the business not even one of the parties may not necessarily want to acknowledge that voice and obviously those few months that she stressed in that opening speech today will obviously be arguments that will be discussed. in the events here in the border town in the next few days although probably not directly in fact you didn't hear angela merkel who spoke after all these vital directly speak to some of those arguments i'm going to michael focus on entirely different matters focusing as we've already discussed your more on on germany's role globally some of the challenges that germany and
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other european countries face and that is also a specific strategy not only of angela merkel but some of the other politicians here although they obviously acknowledge the fact that the d. plays an important role in the business and they will not acknowledge that publicly ok tell us stand by we want to dip into what chancellor merkel was saying in her speech when she addressed the parliament today of course she was gave a very wide ranging speech talking about many different foreign policy priorities and only getting to domestic issues towards the end of her speech pointing out however that the global context is very important also for germany domestically let's let's dip into a bit of a speech and hear what she had to say. falinge is to make sure that we will not just. so equip our soldiers on the foreign missions that they are going to be able to carry them out well. that i have the same time at home
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because of a national and alliance based defense obligations we will provide the equipment there and the infrastructure needed and that means for example as surveillance on the baltic scene which means also the security concept for poland and the baltic states. and this means our commitment in stats here in poland and in other countries we need to be able. to send troops to the place needed quickly and we can't just a quick our overseas mission and our broader missions but we need to equip everyone. where it is needed. chancellor merkel there addressing parliament just a short while ago again on defense we're back to talking about defense mikaela do you think she's really chancellor merkel is really reassuring her neighbors she mentioned poland specifically and the baltic area these are also members of nato
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who look to germany to some degree we've mentioned that the u.s. is already pretty proud putting quite a bit of pressure donald trump specifically on germany to up its defense spending but given the state of germany's military the fact that it has only two of its jets in its fleet the fighter jets are even capable of flying missions is germany really going to be able to do much under these conditions well domi is actually and this is another point as you highlighted fulfilling its commitments outside of german territory when it comes to nato commitments for instance it also is in mali is securing and that is of all the last mission there as well when it comes to domestic defense germany is heavily reliant on basically security guarantee on the promise from the united states so this is a post cold war kind of sentiment that is and that is of course the history to this went to many unification came about at the beginning of the ninety's them an armed
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forces were absolutely huge because they there was some almost half a million sold is now it's down to under two hundred thousand so there's been a huge transition in mussing two armies which before were opposing each other and at the same time scaling down when the financial crisis came in there's a whole white paper that that the german forces work their way down to a certain degree which could be how to focus on supporting allies abroad and she referred to the. test talk when he said that his defense and then defense minister they said that germany's security was defended enough gonna stand essentially then justifying the highly controversial. the mission. in afghanistan when it comes to defending german territory germany is bound into nato and hasn't has german armed forces difficult actually to explain because it seems so obvious it's
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coming back to discover that this really is a priority that the operations here in germany self defense have to be strengthened once again that it is in tangled in red tape within. and that is something that is only defense and that was a funded line is still facing. untangling that performing that and getting it into shape so it can deliver much faster because it is not serious money is only to a certain degree the issue although the dumb defenseman if so would protest because she's only agreed to this budget right now with reservations she wants to see significantly more funding coming into germany's armed forces which help paid to development spending so there's also reservations on the development side in terms of michael did talk quite a bit about the development in her in her speech to just following the whole defense spending let's dip in a little more to the chancellor speech and see what else she had to say today of
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course foreign policy was built on multilateralism one hundred multilateralism is under great pressure right now that we know. as. under pressure europe needs to take its fate into its own hands more than before. and this is why we need a european yeah. the european answer what would a european answer be to multi-lateralism that we're not already seeing right now well first of all being able to find a common position on the major issues that are going on in this world is struggling to actually have a joint foreign policy so if you don't have a common stunts on anything like syria for instance like russia it always is a long tedious struggle to get everybody onto one page here in the european union
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so really it's home what the still needs to do and that it is really struggling with itself to make some effective headway on so she defends multi-lateralism also beyond the e.u. this is something she embraces but and this is something important play is opposed trump wants to do individual deals even with you countries the e.u. is still struggling to fend off attempts to do. bilateral deals between washington and the individual european union capitals i think that message has now come across the atlantic but at the same time so busy with itself so it's always when she says it's not a policy statement as such it's almost an appeal to other countries and it just emphasizes the reliance on has on everybody in the to play a role ready and that she does certainly have a big ally in amman and i called the french president. political correspondent
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who's down at the german this time he's managed to listen to all of chancellor merkel's speech and i want to put it to you thomas you've managed to listen to what the chance was saying she spent a lot of time talking about foreign policy issues not just defense but also development issues what sort of message do you sense that the chancellor was trying to give to her. abroad. well there's one particular element that i want to stress when it comes to defense and that's a fact that we've had two important international challenges in recent years and years which have changed the way many here in germany i think the first obviously being the annexation of cream crimea and the situation in eastern ukraine which showed that some of the challenges that europe face and necessarily far away there actually are europe's doorstep on the second one obviously the refugee crisis on the the fact that the war in syria and in other countries directly affects security in in germany and those are elements that obviously the chancellor has stressed and
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that's obviously the reason why for example the trying to change in a way the role the german military is playing sort of not only focuses on its international missions around the world and it's important to stress there are around four thousand german soldiers in about twelve international missions but they also want to make sure they can focus on elements at home and home and specifically meaning europe and that's the reason why specifically address the baltic states where she specifically addressed poland those are all key elements now when she talks about development that's also important because the fact is that they have big development to military expenditures that was something that social democrats specifically wanted and that's an element that also is very important when it comes to germany's foreign policy in for example african countries the fact that it's not only about development aid but also building an infrastructure program for african countries so that african people can actually find opportunities in their own countries of origin and do not need to to for example
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flee or leave their countries and and think of a better future in europe those are all elements that are particularly important for the german chancellor and that also explains why she believes that the elements that the challenges that germany faces abroad have a direct impact when it comes to germany here at home and to the well being of germans for example when it comes to all these issues that we're discussing today as far as the budget is concerned. so the chancellor is obviously stressing multi-lateralism she's saying that it is under pressure as you mentioned she's talking about german defense spending trying to reassure german germany's allies that germany will continue to contribute to the nato missions abroad and other multilateral missions as well one of germany of course is also a signatory to the iran nuclear deal which the u.s. has just dropped out of meetings have been taking place this week in an effort to salvage that by the europeans as well as the the russians and the chinese who signed that deal with iran let's listen to what chancellor merkel had to say about
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the iran nuclear deal mislead about me yes but there are more issues to discuss like the ballistic missile program and or the influence of iran and hizbollah in syria. there are other questions as well but the one question we have to answer and that we already have answered in opposition to the united states is there a stronger level of dialogue if one abandons the deal or is the dialogue stronger if one remains in the deal we believe that by not leaving the iran deal it will be easier to continue talks which we must do ladies and gentlemen because the ballistic missile program is a great danger most specifically for israel. chancellor merkel addressing the parlous just a short while ago talking about the iran nuclear deal and why it's still so important for germany germany is a signatory to the deal of course chief political correspondent she put political
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editor is with us here in the studio what do you make of the chancellor emphasizing the importance of the rand nuclear deal can does germany is germany in a position to to still salvage that well jimmy alone certainly wouldn't be but this gives me a common interest with russia with china again because after all it was all members of the un security council who signed off on this and this in effect creates international law now completely legally the us president took a segway out of this said he would no longer support it this was kind of an inbuilt provision but there's no glossing over this one and this is an open breach between actually a gulf in how you perceive international diplomacy between the u.s. administration under trum and pretty much the rest of the world who all have have pledged that they would try and salvage this this ballistic missile program is
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basically what i call had already put on the table when he was in washington in an effort to offer something in addition to the iran nuclear deal while trump didn't go for this but clearly machall here together with other allies is still trying to take this further to put something more on the table at least salvage the iran deal the big question now is what will be the specifics of economic cooperation that's what iran got in exchange and he is the european union is going against what the u.s. is basically demanding from its lows which is to no longer do business with iran so it we're heading for an open clash here potentially and we're also seeing a new openings for a very strong common. interests with russia is traveling to saudi to meet putin and they will be talking about this and also she will be heading to china next week so we're seeing in the making it's changing dynamics of international interest in
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basically how stability is created in the wild i want to go back to thomas who's down at the time for us our political correspondent has been listening that speech of course as well as we've been discussing a lot of defense policy foreign policy you just talked about the iran nuclear deal which are the chance for spent quite a bit of time addressing but of course this this is supposed to be a budget debate we're talking about germany's budget for the coming year for the coming legislative period to the priorities there are you able to identify anything in what the chancellor said that would that would show that she's trying to reassure businesses and people just average taxpayers in germany that she is still taking the country in the right direction is she is she giving them anything to suggest that stability will be guaranteed and that things will improve. well the fact that germany will continue with its balanced budget the fact that no new debts
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will be acquired the fact that there is this push for investments in schools or in transport those are all elements that the german government believes can help reassure people about the situation that germany is in but if you look at angela merkel's speech today and if you look at angela merkel's speech is here in the business that you would obviously see that one of her key tenets one of the key elements as german chancellor has always been that idea that germany and by the way no other country can solve international problems on its own that idea of multilateralism that you or me taylor have have addressed and that is something that was clearly evident as well when she addressed the issue of the iran nuclear deal and that explains their reaction not only by germany but some of the other signatories as well and they essentially believe that this is not simply a bilateral deal that can be cancelled by one party in this case the united states i believe that it is still a multilateral agreement a multilateral agreement that iran is still complying on the day one to save and that's also why under michael stated that specifically today but you can clearly
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see not only in this issue but basically in every argument that angela merkel stressed this idea that multiculturalism is the way forward. thomas thank you so much t.w. political correspondent told us sparrow down down at the bun is tague who was following chessell merkel's speech together with other speeches there today on the occasion of the general budget debate you have been watching our special coverage of that general debate in the german bund is taught today. our chief political editor has also been with us you'll find much more about that budget debate on our on our web site d w dot com will fill you in on everything the chancellor had to say and also the opposition leaders that budget by the way is expected to be passed i believe next month. now let's take a look at some of the other stories making headlines around the world today north korea has threatened to cancel a planned summit with u.s. president donald trump it said it would not take part of washington insisted it give up its nuclear weapons pyongyang has also postponed high level talks with
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seoul in protest at military drills between the u.s. and south korea unification minister back to heal and said he regretted the north's move and that it went against the spirit of the historic meeting last month between the country's two leaders let's go over to our correspondent jason strother standing by for us in the south korean capital seoul jason there were months of warming between north and south korea also cautious optimism of course how is this set back being taken in south korea. all right well i think the announcements that north korea would call off these high level talks today and potentially call it the trump summit did take soul by surprise. the government here has issued a statement of regret however that doesn't mean that south korea and the u.s. are going to call off these military exercises there's still continue to take place
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. tell us jason the way it looks right now with with these two summits in jeopardy or north korea or relations between first of all north and south korea frozen again. no i we're not anywhere near that yet i north korea needs to remind south korea and the u.s. that it's not going to be taken for granted we've had the trump administration say recently that north korea would only receive assistance if it completely denuclearize is and i think north korea took some offense to that there's no reason to believe that this is the end of the road ok well what about the us then others also the prospective summit with donald trump between north korea and the u.s. is that likely to be revived now or not. the summit is still underway the u.s.
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state department says that it is still planning for the summit on june twelfth in singapore between kim jong un and donald trump. there of course with north korea that sometimes things change day to day but as far as we know in north korea not only planned to will continue to have make plans for the trump summit but next week it has said that it will dismantle its nuclear test site there's no indication from the regime yet that it's scrapping those plants so jason you've been watching north and south korean relations for a long time even following the north relationship also with the u.s. very closely what's your assessment of where we are right now is this just a bump in the road or or is this really a major impacts. well i'm not a betting man terry and i've been wrong many times before when i've tried to predict what north korea might do or or what things might mean coming out of john
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young i don't think this is a halt i think it is a heck of a bump in the road as you said. north and south korea have been through much more difficult situations again i think this is johnny on throwing a bit of a temper tantrum but still the regime has far more to gain right now by engaging with south korea and the u.s. than it would if it called off all tall us jason thanks so much jason strother there in seoul south korea. to the aftermath of the carnage on the israeli gaza border the united states has blocked a resolution at the un for an investigation into the killing of some sixty palestinians at the border to gaza on monday the u.s. said israel acted with restraint and blamed militant group hamas for inciting the violence but the un's middle east envoy said there was no justification for the killings palestinians spent tuesday burying and mourning their dead.
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the protests were smaller on tuesday but the tear gas canisters continued to fall from the sky this man managed to get right up to the fence separating gaza from israel israel says moments like these justify its response. by days and two more palestinians have been shot dead here casualties and the injured whisked away to a nearby hospital. a hospital that's overwhelmed and under equipped patients with gunshot wounds fill up wards and spill into the hallways there's a long wait for treatment and a shortage of medical supplies. thousands of kilometers away at the u.n. a moment of silence for those killed then further international concern over israel's use of excessive force against on protesters and demands to for hamas
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to avoid provocation but the u.n. resolution to investigate monday's majlis was blocked by the united states. who among us would accept this type of activity on your border. no one would no country in this chamber would act with more restraint than israel has. but these israeli demonstrators disagree some intel of and in jerusalem say they're outraged and saddened by their country's actions. similar sentiments in the west bank as palestinians mark nakba or the catastrophe commemorating seventy years of displacement since the creation of israel and fears now that the future doesn't appear much brighter than the past. you are watching the news just a reminder the top story we're following for you here today german chancellor
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