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breaks a deal it's no debt and those are some of the nicer things being said in london a day after parliament killed the british prime minister teresa mayes brags that withdrawal deal from the european union the opposition tried to snuff out her government completely but you know zombies they never die tonight theresa may she's still in power and she still believes in breaks it still i burned off in berlin this is the day. we now come to the mission of no confidence in her majesty's government mrs pickett this government cannot go but one can only come on the support a pound a month on the most important piece you facing our country should the next step be a general election and free single the previous prime minister in this situation
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would have resigned i believe that is the worst thing we could do this is indeed a zombie company forming a referendum the divided on nation and calm this frankenstein deal is now officially day and last night that we do have a long way to get to speak and it is the pleasure to call the prime minister the first time wish of doing will the she chooses to resign and i push it over this future to be a. and to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and to our viewers all around the world welcome we begin the day which has been another held day for british prime minister to recent may last night parliament overwhelmingly rejected may's brights it plan to take the u.k. album of the european union never before in the history of british democracy has a prime minister been dealt such a severe boy by lawmakers on such an important issue well exactly twenty four hours
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later the opposition labor party went in for the kill by calling for a no confidence vote in bass government in any other time in any other situation that we would most certainly be reporting the end of a government in the resignation of its prime minister but the fear of giving the government to labor its much greater than the disaffection for teresa mayes breaks it plans tonight may is still prime minister her government still in power and she is still convinced that breaks it means for exit with some necessary adjust. the size to the right three hundred feet. to the left three hundred twenty five so the new savvy. i'm. going to order the prime minister. for example is the speaker i'm pleased that this house has expressed its confidence in the gulf and when. i do not take this responsibility likely in my
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government will continue to increase our prosperity guarantee our security and strengthen all you and yes we will continue to work to deliver on the solemn promise we made to the people that this country to deliver on the results of the referendum and. i believe this duty is shared by every member of this house and we have a responsibility to identify a way forward that can secure the backing of the house so that and i've proposed a series of meetings between senior polman tyrants and representatives of the government over the coming days and i would like to invite the leaders of parliamentary parties to meet with me individually and i would like to start these meetings tonight. what to make of all the high drama that we have witnessed at westminster in just the past twenty four hours where does this political saga where does it take us next where now that she has survived a new confidence vote in parliament prime minister theresa may it will try to keep
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her brakes and plan alive how she going to do that she must return to parliament next monday with a new proposal of bricks a plan b. that means at home she'll convene with rebels in her own party and opposition lawmakers to try and find a compromise she has not invited the labor leader jeremy corbyn the zombie thrower to take part in those talks we understand now she'll most likely meet again with european union leaders this is crucial now to try and persuade them to make changes to that withdrawal agreement but the e.u.'s chief negotiator michel barnier said today that it is up to london now to move forward with an orderly withdrawal at the same time the european union is stepping up contingency planning for a no deal breck's it. if may fails that putting together a briggs a plan b. that parliament will support she could call fresh elections she could ask the
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voters to back her deal or she could opt for a second brights it referendum with voters giving a choice of maize breaks it deal a choice of leaving the european union with no deal or they could simply choose to stay in the e.u. and to forget about rights it may has repeatedly ruled out that option but one senior opposition labor figure has told the w. news that it is now a realistic possibility that my name many people in germany have doubted whether this was viable practical believe me they're all very many people right across what this means to tonight talking about a second referendum now in very high practical terms of very many more than there were this morning. and as you may know britain is set to leave the e.u. that's the magic day right there the twenty ninth of march if no deal is reached by this date britain will crash out of the european union a hard brecht's it has its call many are calling for more time but theresa may she
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remains adamant the e.u. will not give the u.k. more time if the british parliament cannot agree on one single rexx it plan. that goes on to go fifty cannot be extended by the u.k. it has to be extended in consultation and agreement with the european union the government's policy the government's policy is that we're leaving the european union on the twenty ninth of march. but the e.u. would only extend article fifty if i actually it was clear there was a plan that was moving towards an agreed deal well the drama it remains high just like the stakes for both britain and the european union and to put that all into context tonight i'm joined by our own brussels based correspondent georg motss he's got the view from brussels and from washington d.c. i'm happy to welcome one of the most respected authorities on all things bret's and david charter now david has written several books considered must read some
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direction including europe in or out and what has the e.u. ever done for us david is now the us editor for the times newspaper in washington d.c. gentlemen it's good to have you on the day david let me start with you. we understand that your newspaper the times has reported that the european union is now willing to delay bragg's until twenty twenty is is that something can you confirm that tonight. yes brant the situation is this. a delay has been considered for article fifty the formal two year mechanism for brics it's which was jus to end on march twenty ninth it's been considered for a while now in the kodos of brussels because they could see that the british government was nowhere near getting an agreement through parliament they now think that the original plan to extend that for three months until the european elections
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take place and the new european parliament is ready to sit at the end of june the start of july that that is not enough time so the information we're getting both from lynn and from paris is that the they are prepared to come up with some arrangement that lets britain try and negotiate a better deal another deal that could go if needed to the end of this year. we know or are they just waiting now for the u.k. board to resume major formally asked for that extension. the british would have to request this clearly the fear in brussels is over the new deal which is the same as the worst case scenario across europe for which there would be catastrophic economic consequences with the year is still in
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a delicate states and they feel that making it known that this is possible much longer period to formulate a new deal will help to reason may survive and to formulate a new deal perhaps one that includes some kind of customs arrangements with the with the e.u. that is sufficient to get through parliament i mean these are these are quite significant developments tonight as you there in brussels what have you heard about the possible this probable delay in bright's i mean are you able to confirm that from your sources in brussels tonight. i will say this to you brian i think an extension of a couple of months leading to mid summer is already a big challenge because it would create all sorts of troubles for the european elections that david has mentioned. delaying breck's it further than that would
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mean that the u.k.'s lawmakers would have to participate in the european elections but practically they would be or as the u.k. it selves in the council in the in the forum where the states member states are represented be bait basically a lame duck so one does wouldn't know are they still a full member or half a member so i had be really interested in what kind of a solution you could put on the table one thing is clear if the e.u. would give such a great extension to the u.k. they would have to put a plan on the table that really makes it worthwhile for the for the e.u. to it to allow something like this so they don't really need to put something in front of the you where they say ok if you do that i can see so i had diplomats telling me if a people's vote would be on the table a couple of months would be possible but. i'm not sure what kind of plan they could suggest in order to get such a great extension yeah i mean obviously the situation very fluid tonight. let's
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take a listen to what theresa may what she had to say earlier today basically sounding like she doesn't want to change her position on brics take a listen. there are actually two ways of avoiding noti and the first is to agree it to you and the second would be to revoke offical fifth. now that which mean staying in the european union. to respect the results of the referendum einsteins is not just something that this government will not do. so david ok we've heard the prime minister say that but based on what you're telling us then she is she is evolving if you will she is willing to allow a break sit deal to keep the u.k. in the customs union of the european union is that is that how we are to understand
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that tonight. the distinction brand is that it's well known the city is in the in the can her party will never allow a bricks it keeps britain in the customs union because it will prevents any chance of britain form in its own trade deals with other countries around the world because it will be tied to the e.u. trade policy so what must happen is some sort of middle way perhaps where britain stays in a customs arrangement a customs union if you like for goods which is a very well a long established part of the single market with the e.u. but perhaps it retains the freedom to make its own trade deals in services and we know that this is one of the big growth areas the british government wants to explore with the u.s. for example in trying to make deals to get contracts in government procurement that
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could be a way forward but isn't that something david that the european union at least up until now has categorically rejected that it wasn't going to separate services for example from. goods. well actually it's to reason may who's ruled out staying in any customs union with the e.u. it's one of her red lines so she would have to withdraw from that red line and try and come up with something and i believe this might be negotiable something that keeps a close if not identical relationship on goods but allows for variance over time. personally i think it might be the way forward georg you're hearing this do you think this is something that is going to you know fall upon welcoming ears in
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brussels. now personally i would say i can't see this at all this is exactly what cherry picking looks like you would separate financial services from trade and that is what the e.u. and what all the experts all this leaders all the negotiators i've talked to have categorically ruled out the u.k. will not get a customs union but if they want a customs union the customs union is on the table and if you want to resolve the dynamic of the border in northern ireland between northern ireland the republic of ireland it is the customs union that provides the solution to that. all right well gentlemen we certainly appreciate the analysis georg montas in brussels david charter in washington david we appreciate the update to the latest developments on a story that is definitely changing as we speak to both of you gentlemen thank you
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. well in britain it's brakes it and the prime minister crushing defeat in parliament in the united states it's the trump presidency and that government shutdown now the longest in american history both sides of the atlantic we are witnessing democracies under un precedented strain the world of politics and consensus has devolved into an us against them brinksmanship somebody even goes so far as to say that we are in the process of a democracy break down and make no mistake about it no one wants to import the political problems that are crippling the u.k. and the u.s. that is especially true for the european union e u lawmakers are being adamant about two points tonight their willingness to work with britain in reaching a break the deal as we just heard and in their resolve to keep out of europe the contagion of polarized politics and the erosion of public civility i want you to
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listen to what one well known member of the european parliament said about that today what we don't want is that these mass in british politics is now transfer that people to in european politics who let's try to find a solution. and the head of the european council to keep the question out there last night i mean talk about putting it out there directly if a deal is impossible and no one wants no deal then who will finally have the courage to say what the only positive solution is it has the courage to speak power to truth is there a danger that the countries of the european union such as right here in germany that they could soon be faced with with political paralysis on the order of a breck's it will to talk about europe i'm happy to welcome back to the day meant hundred verdi he is
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a member of the german parliament the buddhist talk for the social democrats he is a member of the committee for e.u. affairs correct me if i'm wrong here and he's also a member of the bundesliga usa north america group a true transatlantic yalit ition is well it's good to have you back on the show i want to just start with the news that we're getting here that there is this sign coming from europe that there is a willingness to delay brecht's that. they have you heard that i mean have you heard from your sources here in berlin that the germany is is part of the contingent saying we're willing to give them more time yes sure thanks for having me on the show yes. yes sure the question is what so way to the to the extension it should be as we've heard before of many voices in germany today and also in brussels and has to be a clear signal coming from london first so we are not importing the the conflict
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the mood is ation of westminster into the european union but have a clear idea what would could be backed by a majority in london which is obviously at this point very very difficult it's hard to know what will be acceptable to them. jordi in parliament but if to resume if she goes to brussels and if she asks for an extension till twenty twenty and if she asks for this bifurcation if you will this bill this distinction between services and manufacturing goods in the customs union is that something that you could foresee germany and the european union saying yes to well we've just heard in this discussion prior to this to turkey we don't want to repeat i don't want to repeat the cherry picking argument and the discussions we had in the past two years we're told different stage at this point and i understood the prime minister very clearly today after the vote that she wants to try to take this last chance till monday to
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talk to other members of parliament and the opposition to make up a plan to come up with a plan that could be could be held by a majority of the british parliament and then and then afterwards and then asked for extension of of of the twenty ninth date and do you think it's realistic to extend it to twenty twenty i mean to go past the european parliament elections which are scheduled for me. it depends if it's difficult to measure until two hundred twenty but it wouldn't set a fixed date once that is which we don't have at this point once there is a majority in the british parliament which would be totally new situation right we've seen this today and yesterday so if that if she managed other would manage in parliament to get that majority i think the european union if you're very generous because we want we want. to see
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a majority of any kind in the united kingdom but you're not afraid of there being you know this contagion we want i want to talk about you know if this breaks it has not started and we have these european parliament elections aren't you afraid that it's going to have an adverse effect on the elections it has an effect but it's doesn't have to be necessarily adverse it's obviously doesn't affect in timing is everything you know right right so but once there's a clear sign of a solution which the united kingdom can think of and its parliament not only its government then i think it depends on how clear how how concrete this solution is and then you could i think you can manage to have a timing on this one whether it should be a longer one or shorter one i think two years sounds a little too long for me. two months sounds a lot better but i think it shouldn't be a formal board of ok let's say the european election the european parliament election if there was a good deal a good proposal with
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a good majority in westminster i think we could manage the problem as well because we were struck by two moments one from last evening in london and another one from last month in washington we were struck by what what was said to us about civility in politics and about mutual respect in politics i want you to take a listen to what theresa may said last night when she got the results this crushing defeat for her breaks a deal in parliament. we need to confirm whether this government still enjoys the confidence of the house i believe that it does but given the scale and importance of tonight's vote it's right that others have the chance to test that question if they wish to do so i can f.o. confirm that if the official opposition table the confidence motion this evening and the full required by the fixed term polman sacked the government will make time to debate that motion tomorrow. all right now consider that and listen to an
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exchange between the u.s. president and the leaders of the u.s. congress last month as an attempt was made to avert what has now become the longest government shutdown in american history. you've said you want to put the i said i'll take ok good you know what i'll say yes if we don't get what we want one way or the other whether it's through you through a military through anything you want to call i will shut down to go ok and i have that route and i'll be just lottery i am proud to shut down the government for border security just because the people of this country don't want criminals and people that have lots of problems and drugs pouring into our country so i will take the mantle i will be the one to shut it down i'm not going to blame you for the last time you shut it down it didn't work i will take the mantle of shutting out and i'm going to shut it down for border but we're going to you shouldn't shut it down thank you very much everybody. you know we were still talking
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about that can you imagine an exchange like that taking place in the chancellor or even in the in the bundestag. president trump is a populous so he's populist by definition by my definition of the definition which is so so dangerous and true to liberal democracies and he's constantly attacking attacking institutions of democracies so in this case he's attacking obviously blackmailing the u.s. congress and no at this point no but we have to do our homework that it will not happen in the future you know russia is seen by many as having a hand in the emergence of breck's it and in the presidential election of twenty sixteen in the u.s. can the rest of europe can jerk pretty protect itself how vulnerable do you think germany is the democracy in germany when it comes to meddling from foreign powers. open societies have advantages and disadvantages open liberal democracies are very strong because we know everybody can say what he was she wants to do and as long as
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their respect for to each other right along and they are respectful to the wall right so but the disadvantage is that everybody can participate and that's what's happening so. obviously there is influences from the outside germany enter into our last election in public debate generally we have a lot of russian stories connected to that but the question is not whether we can really protect ourselves i would say the challenge is that we are strong enough in our own discourse in our public discourse culture which makes us to a democracy so you don't you don't see then you don't see what's happening in breaks it or in the united you don't see that as a contagion that has to be kept out. over germany to get this this this example of the bus driving through through london and telling people that i don't know two hundred seventy million. pounds would be would be saved for the health care system
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and i think we shouldn't i wouldn't suggest to make a law to prohibit people painting buses with numbers i would support a move to say that they have to be strong rational discourse in public and then people that at the end democracy will prevail the better argument just be reasonable yeah it's something we don't hear very often it's good to hear a politician say that for change as well mr verdi a member of the german parliament the bonus talk of the social democrats it's talk radio is always good to have you on the show and have your insights the day is nearly done the conversation continues online you'll find us at the w dot com or on twitter e.w. news follow me have burnt off t.v. and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see that.
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