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she leads a government of zombies her frankenstein brights a deal it's now dead and those are some of the nicer things being said in london a day after parliament killed the british prime minister teresa mayes brags that withdrawal deal from the european union the opposition tried to snuff out her government completely but you know zombies they never die tonight theresa may she's still in power and she still believes in breaks it still i burned off in berlin this is the day. we now come to the motion of no confidence in her majesty's government this is pretty clear this government cannot dump it on colonel come on the support a comment on the most important issue facing our country should the next step be
a general election and free single the previous prime minister in this situation would resign i believe that is the worst thing we could do this is indeed a song to be done for a referendum that divided on nation and home this frankenstein deal is now or officially day and last night that we do have a long way to get troops to speak and it is a pleasure to follow the prime minister of course i wish to do will that if she does choose to resign and i wish that all the best for the future could be a. and to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and to our viewers all around the world welcome we begin the day which has been another held day for british prime minister to recent may last night parliament overwhelmingly rejected may's brights a plan to take the u.k. album of the european union never before in the history of british democracy has
a prime minister been dealt such a severe boy by lawmakers on such an important issue well exactly twenty four hours later the opposition labor party went in for the kill by calling for a no confidence vote in may's government in any other time in any other situation we would most certainly be reporting the end of a government in the resignation of its prime minister but the fear of giving the government to labor it's much greater than the disaffection for teresa mayes breaks that plan tonight may is still prime minister her government still in power and she is still convinced that breaks it means for exit with some necessary adjust. the size to the right three hundred fifty the nerves to the next three hundred twenty five so the new site. i'm. going to order the prime
minister. for example to mr speaker i'm pleased that this house has expressed its confidence in the government and. i do not take this responsibility lightly and my government will continue its way to increase our prosperity errancy our security and to strengthen our union and yes we will also continue to deliver on the solemn promise we made to the people of this country to deliver on the results of the referendum and. i believe this duty is shared by every member of this house and we have a responsibility to identify a way forward in the backing of the house to that and i've proposed a series of meetings between senior parliamentarians and representatives of the government over the coming days and i would like to fight the leaders of parliamentary parties to meet with me individually and i would like to start these meetings tonight. what to make of all the high drama that we have witnessed at
westminster in just the past twenty four hours where does this political saga where does it take us next where now that she has survived a new confidence vote in parliament prime minister theresa may it will try to keep her brakes and plan alive how she going to do that she must return to parliament next monday with a new proposal a breaks a plan b. that means at home she'll convene with rebels in her own party and opposition lawmakers to try and find a compromise she has not invited the labor leader jeremy korb and the zombie thrower to take part in those talks we understand now she'll most likely meet again with european union leaders this is crucial now to try and persuade them to make changes to that withdrawal agreement but the e.u.'s chief negotiator michel barnier said today that it is up to london now to move forward with an orderly withdrawal at the same time the european union is stepping up contingency planning for
a no deal breck's it. if may fails that putting together a briggs a plan b. that parliament will support she could call for fresh elections she could ask the voters to back her deal or she could opt for a second brite sit referendum with voters giving a choice of may's breaks it deal the choice of leaving the european union with no deal or they could simply choose to stay in the e.u. and to forget about rights it may has repeatedly ruled out that option but one senior opposition labor figure has told the w. news that it is now a realistic possibility that my name many people in germany have doubted whether this was viable practical believe me they're all very many people right across what this means to tonight talking about a second referendum now in very high practical terms very many more than there were this morning. and as you may know britain is set to leave the e.u. that's the magic day right there the twenty ninth of march if no deal is reached by
this date britain will crash out of the european union a hard brecht's it has its call many are calling for more time but theresa may she remains adamant the e.u. will not give the u.k. more time if the british parliament cannot agree on one single rexx it plan. that goes on to go fifty cannot be extended by the u.k. it has to be extended in consultation in agreement with the european union the government's policy the government's policy is that we're leaving the european union on the twenty ninth of march. but the e.u. would only extend article fifty if actually it was clear there was a plan that was moving towards an agreed deal. well the drama it remains high just like the stakes for both britain and the european union and to put that all into context tonight i'm joined by our own brussels based correspondent georg much as he's got the view from brussels and from washington d.c.
i'm happy to welcome one of the most respected authorities on all things bret's david charter now david has written several books considered must reads on bright side including europe in or out and what has the e.u. ever done for us david is now the us editor for the times newspaper in washington d.c. gentlemen it's good to have you on the day david let me start with you. we understand that your newspaper the times has reported that the european union is now willing to delay bragg's until twenty twenty is is that something can you confirm that tonight. yes brant the situation is this. a delay has been considered for article fifty the formal two year mechanism for brix it which was jus to end on march twenty ninth it's being considered for
a while now in the code rules of brussels because they could see that the british government was nowhere near getting an agreement through parliament they now think that the original plan to extend that for three months until the european elections take place in the new european parliament is ready to sit at the end of june the start of july that that is not enough time so the information we're getting from. paris is that the they are prepared to come up with some arrangement that lets britain try and get a better deal another deal that could go to if need it to the end of this year. do we know or are they just waiting for the u.k. forward to resubmit to formally ask for that extension. the british would have to request this clearly the fear in brussels is over the new deal. which is the same as the worst case scenario across europe for which
there would be catastrophic economic consequences with the year is still in a delicate states and they feel that making it known that this is possible much longer period to formulate a new deal will help to reason may survive and to formulate a new deal perhaps one that includes some kind of customs arrangements with the e.u. that is sufficient to get through parliament i mean these are these are quite significant developments tonight as you there in brussels what have you heard about this possible this probable delay in bragg's i mean are you able to confirm that from your sources in brussels tonight. i will say this to you i think an extension of a couple of months leading to mid summer is already
a big challenge because it would create all sorts of troubles for the european elections that david has mentioned. delaying breaks it further than that would mean that the u.k.'s lawmakers would have to participate in the european elections but breck tickly they would be as the u.k. it sells in the council in the in the forum where the states remember states are represented be great basically a lame duck so one dog wouldn't know are they still a full member or half a member so i had be really interested in what kind of a solution you could put on the table one thing is clear if the e.u. would give such a great extension to the u.k. they would have to put a plan on the table that really makes it worthwhile for the for the e.u. to it to allow something like this so they don't really need to put something in front of the you where they say ok if you do that i can see so i had diplomats telling me if a people's vote would be on the table a couple of months would be possible but. i'm not sure what kind of plan they could
suggest in order to get such a great extension yeah i mean obviously the situation very fluid tonight. let's take a listen to what theresa may what she had to say earlier today basically sounding like she doesn't want to change her position on bret's take a listen. there are actually two ways of avoiding. the first is to agree a few on the second would be to resign cos we're fifty. now that which mean staying in the european union. to respect the result of the referendum einstein. and science is something that this government will not do. so david ok we've heard the prime minister say that but based on what you're telling us then she is she is evolving if you will she is willing to allow
a break sit deal to keep the u.k. in the customs union of the european union is that is that how we are to understand that tonight. the distinction brant is that it's well known the city is in the in the can her party will never allow a bricks that keeps britain in the customs union because it will prevents any chance of britain for when its own trade deals with other countries around the world because it will be tied to the e.u. trade policy so what must happen is some sort of middle way perhaps where britain stays in a customs arrangement a customs union if you like for goods which is a very well a long established part of the single market with the e.u. but perhaps it retains the freedom to make its own trade deals in services and we know that this is one of the big growth areas that the british government wants to
explore with the u.s. for example in trying to make deals to get contracts in government procurement that could be a way forward but isn't that something david that the european union at least up until now has categorically rejected that it wasn't going to separate services for example from. goods. well actually it's to reserve may who's ruled out staying in any customs union with the e.u. it's one of her red lines so she would have to withdraw from that red line and try and come up with something and i believe this might be negotiable something that keeps a close if not identical relationship on goods but allows for variance over time on services personally i think it might be the way forward georg you know you're
hearing this do you think this is something that is going to you know fall upon welcoming ears in brussels. now personally i would say i can't see this at all this is exactly what cherry picking looks like you would separate financial services from trait and that is what the e.u. and what all the experts all those leaders all the negotiators i've talked to have categorically ruled out the u.k. will not get a customs union but if they want a customs union the customs union is on the table and if you want to resolve the dynamic of the border in northern ireland between northern ireland the republic of ireland it is the customs union that provides the solution to that. all right well gentlemen we certainly appreciate the analysis georg montas in brussels david charter in washington david we appreciate the update to the latest developments on
a story that is definitely changing as we speak to both of you gentlemen thank you . well in britain it's bret's it and the prime minister scratching defeat in parliament in the united states it's the trump presidency and that government shutdown now the longest in american history both sides of the atlantic we are witnessing democracies under un precedented strain the world of politics and consensus has devolved into an us against them brinksmanship somebody even goes so far as to say that we are in the process of a democracy break down and make no mistake about it no one wants to import the political problems that are crippling the u.k. and the u.s. that is especially true for the european union lawmakers are being adamant about two points tonight their willingness to work with britain in reaching
a break the deal as we just heard and in their resolve to keep out of europe the contagion of polarized politics and the erosion of public civility i want you to listen to what one well known member of the european parliament said about that today what we don't want is that these mass in british politics is now tense for that and important in european politics so let's try to find a solution. and the head of the european council all of those keep the question out there last night i mean talk about putting it out there directly if a deal is impossible and no one wants no deal then who will finally have the courage to say what the only positive solution is. yes the courage to speak power to truth is there a danger that the countries in the european union such as right here in germany that they could soon be faced with political paralysis on the order of
a brecht sit well to talk about europe i'm happy to welcome back to the dave verdi he is a member of the german parliament the buddhists talk for the social democrats he is a member of the committee for e.u. affairs correct me if i'm wrong here and he's also a member of the bonus dogs usa north america group a true transatlantic holiday asian as well it's good to have you back on the show i want to just start with the news that we're getting here that there is this sign coming from europe that there is a willingness to delay breaks it. have you heard that i mean have you heard from your sources here in berlin that the germany is is part of the contingent saying we're willing to give them more time yes sure thanks for having me on the show again. yes sure the question is what so a way to the to that extension it should be as we've heard before of many voices in
germany today and also in brussels and has to be a clear signal coming from london first so we are not importing the the conflict the mood is a shadow of westminster into the european union but have a clear idea what would could be backed by a majority in london which is obviously at this point very very difficult it's hard to know what will be acceptable to him. jordi in parliament but if to recently if she goes to brussels and if she asks for an extension till twenty twenty and if she asks for this bifurcation if you will does this distinction between services and manufacturing goods in the customs union is that something that you could foresee germany and the european union saying yes to where we've just heard in this discussion prior to this to our talk here we don't want to repeat i don't want to
repeat the cherry picking argument and the discussions we had in the past two years we are told different stage at this point and i understood the prime minister very clearly today after the vote that she wants to try to take this last chance to monday to talk to other members of parliament and the opposition to make up a plan to come up with a plan that could be could be held by a majority of the british parliament and then and then afterwards and then ask for extension of of the twenty ninth date and do you think it's realistic to extend it to twenty twenty i mean to go past the european parliament elections which is scheduled for may. it depends if it's difficult to measure until two hundred twenty but it wouldn't set a fixed date once that is which we don't have at this point once there is a majority in the british parliament which would be totally new situation right we've seen this with the board and yes to do so if the if she managed other would
manage in parliament to get that majority i think the european union working very generous because we want we want. to see a majority of any kind in the united kingdom if you're not afraid of there being this contagion we will i want to talk about you know if this breaks it has not started and we have these european parliament elections aren't you afraid that it's going to have an adverse effect on the elections it has an effect but it's doesn't have to be necessarily adverse it's obviously doesn't affect in timing is everything right so but once there's a clear sign of the solution which the united kingdom can think of and its parliament not only its government then i think it depends on how clear how how concrete this solution is and then you could i think you can manage to have a timing on this one whether it should be a longer one or shorter one i think two years sounds a little too long for me. two months sounds
a lot better but i think it shouldn't be a formal vote of ok let's say the european election the european parliament election if there was a good deal a good proposal with a good majority in westminster i think we could manage the problems well we were struck by two moments one from last evening in london and another one from last month in washington we were struck by what what was said to us about civility in politics and about mutual respect in politics which is take a listen to what theresa may said last night when she got the results this crushing defeat for her breaks a deal in parliament. first we need to confirm whether this government still enjoys the confidence of the house i believe that it does but given the scale and importance of tonight's vote it's right that others have the chance to test that question if they wish to do so i can therefore confirm that if the official opposition table a confidence motion this evening in the form required by the fixed term parliaments
act the government will make time to debate that motion tomorrow. all right now consider bat and listen to an exchange between the u.s. president and the leaders of the u.s. congress last month as an attempt was made to avert what has now become the war against government shutdown in american history. you said if you want to put that in my set it i'll take it ok good you know what i'll say yes if we don't get what we want one way or the other whether it's through you through a military through anything you want to call i will shut down the go ok and i am proud and i got your lottery i am proud to shut down the government for border security just because the people of this country don't want criminals and people that have lots of problems and drugs pouring into our country so i will take the mantle i will be the one to shut it down i'm not going to blame you for the last time you shut it down it didn't work i will take the manhood of shutting out and
i'm going to shut it down for the border but we're going to you shouldn't shut it down thank you very much everybody. you know we were still talking about that can you imagine an exchange like that taking place in the chancellor even in the in the bundestag. president trump is a populous so he's populist by definition by my definition of the definition which is so so dangerous and true to liberal democracies is he's constantly attacking attacking institutions of democracies so in this case he's attacking obviously blackmailing us congress and no at this point no but we have to do our homework that it will not happen in the future you know russia is seen by many as having a hand in the emergence of breck's it and in the presidential election of twenty sixteen in the u.s. can the rest of europe can generally protect itself how vulnerable do you think germany is the democracy in germany when it comes to meddling from foreign powers.
open societies have advantages and disadvantages open liberal democracies are very strong because we know from everybody could say what he was she wants to do and as long as there's respect for the each other right along and their respective to the law all right so but the disadvantage is that everybody can participate and that's what's happening so. obviously there is influences from the outside germany enter into our last election in public debate generally we have a lot of russian stories connected to that but the question is not whether we can really protect ourselves i would say the challenge is that we are strong enough in our own discourse in a public discourse culture which makes us to a democracy so you don't you don't see then you don't see what's happening in breaks it or in the units if you don't see that as a contagion that has to be kept out. germany to get this this this example of the
bus driving through through london and telling people that i don't know two hundred seventy million. pounds would be would be saved for the health care system and i think we shouldn't i wouldn't suggest to make a law to prohibit people painting buses with numbers i would support a move to say that they have to be strong rational discourse in public and then people at the end democracy will prevail the better argument just be reasonable yeah it's something we don't hear very often it's good to hear a politician say that for change as well mr verdi a member of the german parliament the boldest talk of the social democrats is talk radio's always good to have you on the show and have your insights the day is nearly done the conversation continues online you'll find us at the w dot com or on twitter e.w. news follow me have burnt off t.v. and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see that.
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