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not the way prime minister to reason may want it tonight the u.k. parliament again rejected the withdrawal plan that she negotiated with e.u. leaders of rights a delay is all but guaranteed we cannot say the same about the future or to research. i've forgotten berlin this is the day. to the right two hundred forty served the nose to the left three hundred ninety one so the news i mean the news coverage coming up by profound regret the decision that these houses take and. i continue to be nice if i fall the best time if united kingdom lease the european union and orderly fashion with or to thank you mr st john the government is great defeated again by an enormous majority and they must now accept their jail their proposal the one the prime minister's put is clearly
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dead and does not have the support of this house. also coming up tonight twenty years ago nato expanded east on to the doorsteps of russia for some it was tantamount to the first attack by the west in the post cold war were. little by little chris and through him we think we can depend on the americans for america's flight if they're my mother can we believe they will help us in case it comes to a conflict with russia. if you can look. forward to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin the day that definitely was not to reason maze tonight for the second time in as many months lawmakers every ject in the prime minister's european union withdrawal plan two years of brecht's negotiations reject a last night in an eleventh hour attempt to save her plan and they traveled to
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france for talks and she returned to london with claims of new legally binding promises which parliament has been demanding but again it wasn't enough and today in parliament a visibly fatigued may once again told m.p.'s it's either a vote for my plan or a vote for no break so that all arguments that we have heard many times before and today as her voice began to fail her it became clear the prime minister's ability to be heard in the commons or that has been failing her now for a long time. i continue to believe that by far the best time is you know she's going to leave the european union and orderly fashion with a deal. and that the deal we've negotiated is the best and indeed the deal of. course night we will table a motion for debate tomorrow to test whether the house supports leaving the european union without a deal on the twenty ninth of march i'm passionate about the result of the
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referendum but i equally passionately believe that the best way to do that is to leave in an orderly way with the tea and i still believe that there is a majority in the house for that course of action the dangers the dangers of what the prime minister proposing a basically that we think she carries on threatening us all with the danger of no deal the danger of that knowing full well that will do to the british economy the prime minister's run down the clock on the caucus rain run out on her maybe it's time instead we had a general election and the people who. should play. are we have got complete coverage of what happened today in the british parliament joining me here in the studio at the big table is our brics specialist alex forrest whiting and in london our correspondent barbara very exalted both of you good to have you here on a night like tonight barbara let me start with you we know that teresa mayes
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withdrawal plan today was rejected or was defeated i should say what about theresa may has she been defeated tonight. trees amaze time might run out very quickly we have just a little while ago see nikki mark and who is charlie m.p. former minister and basically an ally off the prime minister's say she now has to consider how long she wants to stay on that is a. clear words her own people are deserted theresa may because this is just one defeats too many that means it is also too big this is stored prized regard to defeats in british recent parliamentary history and the biggest one was generally for a series of may then there was no other one for a labor government in earlier years and now this takes third place it's
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a bronze medal for this defeat tonight for a series of may and the also child's walkovers senior tory from the backbench will said we have to think it by you elections so that is quite clear and it seems that the plug will be pulled on trees amazed political career sooner than later we are getting reports tonight that the pound is also weakening further you know with this prolonged uncertainty alex what are we looking at for the rest of this week is it possible that we could actually see brics delayed and maybe theresa may use premiership coming is that are these things possible everything is on the table tonight first of all we've got the promise of a vote tomorrow on a no deal bricks it so the government to lay down a motion saying that this house declines to approve leaving the e.u. without a deal to raise a maze promising her own m.p.'s that they could have
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a free vote she's not going to tell them how to vote on that and not just because there are so many m.p.'s within her own party seventy five of whom did not support her deal tonight so many of them who can't support her a many of whom would be quite happy to leave without including some senior and pays a we know for example the former foreign secretary boris johnson earlier today in parliament said that that would be ok that's a possibility we had to see graeme brady the leader of the nine hundred twenty two . that's the committee of backbench tory m.p.'s saying a similar thing off to tonight's results so that is is going to happen and by the way there will be amendments tabled to that vote tomorrow we're already beginning to see it looks like one of them which is. an amendment to that no deal vote saying that they would support a no deal brecht's it with a stand sit stand still transition period in other words this is what's called the
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malthouse solution they believe that they can have a no deal but that the e.u. will allow them to have a transition period the only problem is it that earlier today michel barnier tweeted that there would be no transition period if there is a no deal brix it that transition period is supposed to kick in on the twenty ninth of march as soon as the u.k. has left the e.u. and would last until december twenty twenty so that that is that which will be going on tomorrow if that is voted down then on thursday m.p.'s get the chance to vote on whether they want to delay and we think that that's going to happen so we're going to be looking at an extension of the brics a deadline if you will but the actual government falling apart that would probably be a step too far right now right that would be too much chaos. you know with the outside world is looking at this story i mean that would be too much for as i say anything is everything and anything is possible at the moment everything is on the table
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m.p.'s are trying to take control of the situation which is what we talked about back in january so we're going to see this more and more many of them of laid off putting down these amendments these changes to her deal because she kept promising i'll go back to brussels i'm going to come out with a deal that you're going to accept yet again second time tonight m.p.'s by a majority of one hundred forty nine have not accepted her do so there is the possibility when these votes whatever happens to them by thursday that yes that is the possibility of a general election she could be forced to stay. and i haven't kept in a top team and jeremy corbin as we had again calling for a general election and that he didn't call for a second referendum which is what he said which we noticed everything at the moment is to play for and i would just point out that even if m.p.'s tomorrow say that they do not want to see a new deal breaks it may take it off the table immediately for say the twenty ninth
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of march if m.p.'s want an extension to article fifty but it doesn't take it off in the long term there is still the possibility that the u.k. will crush out of the e.u. without detail where were we could be headed. i'm trying to maybe help our viewers understand the thinking of theresa may i mean so many people saw this coming and yet it seems to recently did not do you have an explanation of why she refused to been in this thinking that it's either my plan or no plan. it seems that chris reason may solve this coming you know way but she has this docket sense of being having to be principles the dark sense awful what she has repeated again and again. my task is to look deliver breck's and she is somebody who will then just carry on against better knowledge without sort of good sense
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without sort of saying you know she is really in a way not a politician some more seasoned politician somebody was more experienced as a leader as a prime minister let's think about i'm glenn murcutt a lot of some of the people that we know on the international scene in a situation like i mean i they wouldn't get themselves into a situation like this be in if they where in this place they would sit down with some advisors and say ok you know what do you do now how do we solve this and then they would have to let every seeing. go all the principle it's all the basic ideas that say ok the bay forward is this how do we forge a majority this is not what she did she tried to keep the tory party together she tried to keep the e r. g.'s the hard line writes it tears on board and they haven't left her again tonight so that was just a few child and she is somehow really knocked out for the task she has really basically fundamentally if you talk about political craft fields in her job and
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that's a pretty devastating judgment basically and all but it's tonight or on an extension to the birth deadline but what about a second briggs referendum vision that is as great today as it was it seems three years ago exactly that's the problem with the polls so people in the u.k. citizens vote is but also within parliament at the moment there is not a majority for that we heard a couple of weeks ago the leader of the opposition party jeremy corbin saying that now his party would support a second referendum but he did not mention that what tonight in his statement to two reason may's defeat he talks about a general election he talked about a softer bricks it said at the moment we're still not there with a second referendum all right alex forrest why do you hear the big table and proposal in london for both of you thank you very much we want to take this story
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now to our brussels bureau chief max hoffman he is on the story for us tonight in strong france and if you do you max so what can we say is there been a reaction from the european union and is the european union basically now reckoning with an extension to brics. well disappointment frustration those have been the reactions we experienced here in stroudsburg where the european parliament is having its plenary session and quite frankly many of the parliamentarians here don't really understand what the goal is of the house of commons they probably aren't the only ones in this case are they expecting an extension. maybe but i would say that most people i talked to here are now thinking that the most likely outcome is braggs it without a deal because it is brant the default option but is it it's not in anyone's
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interest for there to be a new deal. correct so why would the european union not go that extra step now and give the u.k. an extension let's say for two months if you know if that could mean you know establishing some order in this chaos. there are a couple of layers to that brand well that the european union is very much open to granting that extension that you were talking about and actively delaying the braggs it but many of the leaders in the european union for example the french president in monterrey mccall have said that there needs to be a reason for that extension because of the likelihood is that at the end of that extension we're exactly where we are right now and we've done that before you know that then it doesn't make sense to grant that extension so possible justification would be a second referendum or snap elections we don't see that coming at the moment but to be fair you know there is a good will to grant that extension but the u.k. has to apply for it and whether they really do that is unclear at the moment we'll
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have a series of votes to determine that further down the road so we'll just have to wait and see for that right now now having gone the extra step many here feel they have gone many extra steps already granting the u.k. what they can grant them and this is the end of the line that's the deal. the head of the e.u. commission repeatedly said that there will be a thirteenth he said he said this is this is the second chance and that chance failed in the eyes of the commission so. the views are hard in the front lines are hardened really i asked many parliamentarians here no one sees a path forward at the moment or what's your opinion max i mean just we were trying we're still trying to get our head around what happened last night there in strong spring this meeting between younger and theresa may you know what she was trying to do what was what was your trying to do as well i mean how complicit has the european union been in this saga of bricks and this this shambles some would say
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that we're looking at tonight. well complicit would be a very strong word i think what we saw last night and i'm not the only one to think that is both john for joe grant's reason may try to put more pressure into the pressure cooker to finally sway a majority of the house of commons to vote for that brags a deal trying to convince them that it is the best of alternatives that clearly has not worked and now to say that the e.u. is complicit with with what happened i've heard that line of thinking but the only way where you really can argue is that the e.u. was too hard on the u.k. but then again we just heard what but barbara bizzle explained in the u.k. and even even if the if the e.u. was more forthcoming towards teresa mayes completely unclear if she would have a majority for whatsoever whatever the e.u. proposes it seems there is no majority in the house of commons for that and that's a question of the u.k. really not the e.u.
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you almost get the feeling that what we saw last night with younger and theresa may was younger being as open as he has been in trying to help engineer a u.k. parliamentary vote on teresa mayes behalf and it backfired would you agree with that assessment. well that she got more votes than the last time i wouldn't be sure that what john kerry younger did backfired he really is probably one of the figures in the european union at the moment who's hurt personally who really tried with all his force and his powers to to prevent this and try to try to forge a deal that could work for theresa may he always said we're open to talking again although you what he had behind him were that you member states who gave a clear line and red lines and said we're going. this far and no further and already what they did on monday engineering you know the legal implications for the
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backstop and everything maybe the even went to step further than they were allowed to do from the side of the e.u. commission so quite frankly i haven't heard anyone here blame george you're for what happened today at the house of commons yeah and you know people around the world may forget breaks it is a divorce a political and economic divorce and i don't think that in the dictionary anything pleasant is found the side the word divorce all right next often in strasbourg france tonight max thank you. when we brief history lesson for is it has been twenty years since poland hungary and the then checco slovakian joined the north atlantic treaty organization nato that marked the extension of the western military alliance into what had been uncontested soviet spheres of influence russian president vladimir putin he has said repeatedly that the expansion of nato was nothing less than an affront against
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his country his words well they've been followed by actions the annexation of crimea in two thousand and fourteen russian troops in eastern ukraine just two of it which have raised alarms in former communist states soviet satellites about russia's intentions nato has not watched all of this passively as part of natives plan to secure poland in the event of a provocation from the east a contingent of american troops is now stationed less than one hundred kilometers from the russian border with all. pieces are not pictures of an actual war it's an x. the size in case of emergency jonathan oakes has been stationed for six months in northeast and poland near the russian border a long way from his home state of tennessee in the u.s. he previously did two tours of duty in iraq as a tank on are. likely not. iraq was
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a combat mission springlike busy focus on the. mission throughout the day throughout the week. here we're focused on training with our friends nobody here working with nato partners. it's one of nearly a thousand nato soldiers from various countries helping put on the shelf farce the occasion poland is celebrating trench years as a nato member. it's a demonstration of power also meant for the polish president. bush. quick response task force troops which protect us from the eastern flank of the alliance are stationed here. for their own years or. i hope that they
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will increase their presence sooner if you show as many polls here russia as a threat especially since the ukraine crisis and the annexation of crimea that's why the u.s. has sent extra troops that are nader's flank as a deterrent they're now around five thousand u.s. soldiers and poland. every year opponent is spending two percent of its g.d.p. on defense making it a poster child for nato for selling to a crime and stuff the alliance has also led she repeated price by the united states now into. turn for the financial commitment poland is also demanding for more security from nato and for more u.s. troops in the country. the little town of or shish near the nato base has been profiting from the presence of so many of us soldiers oaks and others frequently visited he says he does not feel threatened even though the russian border is less
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than one hundred kilometers away. i wouldn't say a burden at all it's. our nato partners we're here to train with him for any threat this is not just that you know it's it's any threat whatsoever so if we train for one hundred years then nothing ever happens but it's good training manny off the townspeople feel safe for now that the americans are here at oaks favorite restaurant people no longer fear russia will look a little christian of we think we can depend on the americans on america's floods if they let it go we believe they will help us in case it comes to a conflict with russia. going through that awful. polls has been calling for a permanent us space for years but for the time being the soldiers are only stationed here for a short term ochs will soon return to tennessee he says specially looking forward to being with his daughter again whom he saw only briefly right after she was born
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. our twenty years after the expansion eastward talk about that i'm joined now here at the big table bytes will be a flicker he's a member of the german parliament for the left party he also sits on the parliamentary defense committee just a fluke it's good to have you on the program you know they say hindsight is always twenty twenty right we're always smarter we're always slower as they say in german but was it a mistake for nato to expand to the doorsteps of the former soviet union twenty years ago and to end yes when we look to it and now we have a lot of nato member states surrounding. brusha and is increasing on both sides in the moment we have the kinds of lng off to an f. treaty and what we see is that more and more maneuvers and troops from both sides in this region united something like more and more no more cold war do
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you think do you think that the expansion of nato. made vladimir putin possible. perhaps he needs an enemy as any peps the main problem is that there was something on the table some years ago it was ideal from go but to have something like a common how as in europe to have a common security system. we have it in our programme that visit there should be something like a common security system but what includes russia that's very important that includes russia europe and the united states right and when you know that was that was offered as early as one nine hundred ninety seven. according to madeline albright the former secretary of state of the us to boris yeltsin and he refused to take the offer seriously unfortunately because i think it would be the best idea in a moment we have a terrible situation that something is something like
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a new enemy for western states and a total increasing of spending money for arms and it would be possible to have something like common security so it was a mistake to make it in this time the next nato expansion right receive those mistakes what about when the time after whatever putin do you think then there will be another opportunity to change nato and to have this shared security alliance. perhaps it's possible because there wasn't cry. we know it i mean do you have any do you consider vladimir putin to be the biggest obstacle now to reducing the tension that we have i would say. nevertheless what happened in crimea. will not happen in some of the other you know really doesn't follow because. it was
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a special situation and it's absolutely clear that it will not happen again and so it would be a good idea to have also negotiations with putin to have this common security system and to stop the obviously we appreciate you coming in and i'd like to start with you under unfortunately we're out of time but we appreciate your insights tonight. well the day is nearly done the conversation continues online your find us on twitter either you w. news or you can follow me of t.v. don't forget to use the hash tag the day and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see that.
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