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for a hundred days between april and july in one nine hundred ninety four rwanda was ravaged by one of the most intensive campaigns of mass murder in history radical hutus killed an estimated one million people to seize and moderate hutus with the backing of a significant section of the population. but he when i walked through all the buildings there were bodies everywhere in every single building. a person could peer in the courtyard as well you know there were bodies everywhere you looked at. some thirty
five thousand dead people the ground was littered with bodies well. formed a lot of ideas nicole richie she pathetically charming the come on my debit card little from. me yeah my jenny i said about we have a bit of a shit about both of us we can reach and i'm about various marched up and was the boss and i know i was about to say but case in which he's got a plan to put it to chicago and how to run it when i'm going to. want to share a room with a she one hundred to someone else for i don't know it and your idea of us going up the who kind of opening up for federal position we're going to move pushing them with them over here for you or what i was afraid you would do what we are going to do is it that you do you never know how to run it must the hudsons misled that other set of muslim society now who are now glad the ship was sealed up that is he should have had the right. to know that quite a huge crash of
a child who would see so many men to develop the cars. on the first day the interim way arrived a lot of residents hutus and tutsis were gathered on the market square. they initially assumed the intruders were ordinary bandits and tried to defend themselves but they didn't stand a chance the villagers hutus and tutsis alike were forced to strip and lie on the ground in the sun it was eleven am on april fifteenth one thousand nine hundred four and at eleven am in rwanda the sun beats down mercilessly. at three pm the interim way ordered the hutus to get up and then handed them spears machetes and clubs. there to see neighbors were not to get up ever panic broke out around and outside the village most of the tutsis fled into the church believing they would be safe there but this would not be the case
a precious few managed to escape this man was one of them with a spear having pierced his chest he fled on foot twenty five kilometers to neighboring towns anea. to triggering the seed to the people who it was the worst genocide ever seen all genocides are cruel but imagine that in rwanda there were even people who paid to be killed with a gunshot the methods used by the murderers were appalling. to cut off people's arms and heads and just leave the bodies there to be fitted for or killed children by throwing them i guess it was the ship the sea which i did atrocious things we counted fifty six different methods of killing with food you will pray. as the rwandan patriotic front or in katon you continued to advance didn't need
police he tried to organize a semblance of administration jerry you see the first thing that hit me when i arrived was the stench it was awful. so. this is the approach then i went inside the buildings. on every one of the laws were covered in blood. it was really distressing yes. fifty thousand to its use were slaughtered in. the two massacres in year over year and then would together account for an eighth of the total death toll from the initial genocidal rampage by the start of may two thirds of that total were already did.
it pure you don't know as i walked through the streets of. that someone told me that there were still children in the village who nobody was taking care of. all the buildings here were empty. that's why i asked that they be taken to the school and there i sang songs with them. the r.p.s. advanced pushing back the government troops meanwhile the interim one way continued their spree of death and destruction killing any to tease who had survived or escaped the initial carnage gummies soldiers roam the villages over the dead bodies of to seize and killing any moderate hutus who crossed their path. the battle for kigali on may twenty first was devastating for both the town you and the government troops called me decided to have his troops advance gradually in stages and he wanted to minimize casualties among his men who he would need to
rebuild the country after the war rather than sacrifice them in one of the final battles of a conflict where the outcome was already clear. the. you took one town after another in early june one nine hundred ninety four they overthrew the government which then fled to. the west of the country close to the border with your. friends had to acknowledge that its side in the conflict was losing on june eighteenth one nine hundred ninety four president francois mitterrand issued orders to launch. this as a humanitarian measure time is running out he explained at a point in time where seventy five percent of the tutsis were already dead what were france's true intentions in rwanda where the in a town you were on the verge of taking control.
the french intention was to deny you. to. me you too must. be. if they had been. was the film. crew do you have fear the time you were making threatening statements saying they would push the french back out of the country but it was very unsettling you're going to have to the french had been assigned the u.n. mandate the immediately established contact with kagami be a political channels but it was right at the beginning of the operation he was informed that france did not intend to reconquer rwanda or oppose him or of the r.p.m. so it was really. some of the french soldiers who had served in rwanda a number of years earlier and now they were back in the same country except this
time they had to assume a very different stance they had to be impartial. impartial in the face of an ongoing genocide france's neutrality was repeatedly called into question by the external observers and later even by some french officers. when the captain told me we have orders to stop the r.p.s. the an ambush in the woods of new york way. he will detail at six am when the helicopters were just taking off. a commanding officer came over crossed his arms and shouted stop stop stop it equipped helicopters that were already taking off had to land again the truth shall appear we were really annoyed because we prepared for the mission and of course everyone was feeling tense and you would. what
jumped off the helicopter went up to the officer and asked him what was going on. said i wanted to know who the orders had come from. us and he explained to me calmly it was six am on july first. that the operation had been aborted. but they'd reached an agreement with the r.p. half and france would be setting up a safe humanitarian zone. in paris opinion was very much divided not only among the military chiefs of staff but also at the political level the council of senior cabinet ministers was split into two camps one headed by the president's spokesman who bear of a joining and foreign minister as you pay and supported by hardliners from the army wanted to stop me. the other camp including prime minister edward doer and defense minister francois
leotard were more hesitant preferring a purely humanitarian operation certainly some of the elements of the military wanted war and there were some within the chirac camp who packed them because of the damage they knew it would cause prime minister barak do you know also. edward balladeer ended up secretly dispatching two emissaries to rwanda to talk to polka gummi writers on christophe for a fair and historians your opinion only. we were sent to reason with khatami we said there are a couple of mad men and friends who would like to fight against you and your side also had a few mad men and i would be willing to fight the french so let's be reasonable and afford that if this room that's a meeting also saw the drawing up of the safe humanitarian zone the tensions between paris and konami were calmed at least temporarily nevertheless the into
tiny refused to accept friends preventing them from winning the war they eventually resorted to action that has remained largely hidden from the public in mid july a few days before that final victory the in could turn you captured twenty three french troops attempting to cross their lines. twenty three. british troops captured they were surrounded and we use it to almost to buy a game and it was a late look this is our country and willing to enter these tend to do when they wanted to. so if you believe that. anyone suppose this is a tentative. these people. and. it's not. just want to write she finished clips. so there was that and it out to to get to later on the reserve was approved.
mistakes and follies always come with a high price and france was guilty of a whole range of follies motivated by a desire for french dominance in africa. from the point of view of france their position was threatened by anglo-saxon imperialism they claimed the r.p.o. for being backed by elements and british dominated uganda if the british didn't give a damn about the r.p.o. . little old you if they're. after taking kigali on july fourth two weeks later the in could turn you had gained control of the entire country with just over twelve thousand soldiers. at the time thirty six now had the responsibility of dealing with the consequences of an unprecedented wave of slaughter and destruction. the shocking toll after one hundred days up to a million to a t's murdered and a quarter of a million women raped two million moderate hutus were forcibly relocated to the
border with say are to be exploited as human shields for the extremists. because they're smelling it we're just a. little more is it. even laws where we see and it is sees us. as the help we. see because it annoys linda where to start. from somewhere and. that would be doing this country wouldn't. it just get lost. it's pettish. rwanda was desolated there was no gasoline no electricity no bank notes the tutsis who had escaped the genocide gradually
started to return from exile to their country a country they would no longer recognize a country still littered with human corpses. this arrivers found homes in the now abandoned and destroyed buildings. the new government of national unity tried to exhibit the trappings of normality. it was named defense minister and vice president past year busy mugu a moderate who two who had aligned himself with the r.p.s. was appointed president but the real power as everyone knew lay in the hands of the victorious military chief paul kagame ie. the other people had a lot of responsibility we had to do it over the country there was no doubt it would do nothing there were almost two fronts. when a little questions for nothing so be it appear it was in the tribal almost of the feet. so. in the remote a lot of the concrete were still killing the people. so there were people was also
responsible to stop of that so it so they could then appeal was a bit. less first. on the. of the locked. in could tell you struggled to impose discipline starting within their own ranks r.p.s. officers were committing atrocities against civilians well armed soldiers avenge their families a number of officers appeared to lose all restraint to mit's the deadly chaos. tried to put a stop to the cycle of retaliation having several hundred of his own men imprisoned and some executed as a deterrent. to gummi was now deploying a dubious and double edged political instrument a reign of terror. one question remains to this day whither he had a choice. to sit very
complicated. you see there is nothing that is a man can be here. and they knew inevitably they knew we knew we. such a strong sense of. something's a little too up in and they up and we're human beings. with the invitations for us. on april twenty second one thousand nine hundred ninety five interim way forces who had infiltrated the last existing displaced persons camp on rwandan territory attacked in katon you soldiers right under the eyes of un troops the encroach on your response was swift and devastating four thousand people in the camp were killed many of them trampled to death in the resulting mass panic.
so there was repeated pressure from the government in kigali to dissolve the camp and have the people returned to their homes and villages. in the result was this terrible massacre. i think this was a combination of two factors. spontaneous outbreaks of violence which are comprehensible in this kind of situation. and a strategy of terror after such an orgy of violence there will inevitably be people settling scores such as soldiers taking personal revenge for their murdered families to. into further soup but i traveled with president khatami through various european countries to make our message clear people were still being killed in rwanda and the perpetrators were able to return unhindered to congo and what was europe doing nothing just the same old hot air and unrealistic promises. and they knew they were. i was stating look you have comps
across the cold you have weapons. you to me if e.g. come study these. when you take human teddy in assistance to these columns you have been hitting. these images he has and the. groups that has suggested it ok to the cross the border. in those details will begin. mobile to please. i that is on this ripple. under sold move them from the border no it would be to do nothing so. when the computer come see me as if. i don't have the room with a mobile to myself. so do you know if and if you but i know somebody was with the
program with moved. and this is what's been so them is. known to zero a couple of would become a vital ally of paul kagame a as head of the alliance of democratic forces for the liberation of congo or a.d.f. l. . gummi himself took a backseat leaving the fighting to his right hand man lieutenant colonel james covering. my first meeting with the night is that it. was just here. in this image that a co came to me on how he how to fota was against will but in the sixty's together with the trigger for the us i had a hard on the hood of books to what i did a fool i saw this is that item on your way museveni the ugandan president provided paulk a dummy with diplomatic support and arms. he had the u.s. on his side while the french backed the leader and dictator of zaire. it was the
beginning of the first congo war starting with the dismantling of the hutu refugee camps. when the in cotati attacked they left a corridor open in the town of goma providing access to the rwandan border. and a few days is here to. open the border enabling those refugees who had the opportunity to enter. their view. he saw some of the soldiers also returned to rwanda. but the majority of them withdrew into the interior of the congo to cool. the refugee camps were shut down after two years in exile almost ninety percent of the displaced hutus in congo then still zaire returned to rwanda.
no country tolerate being attacked from its own borders and every leader would probably have reacted the way koga me did there was a real and genuine threat could have been us at. all streets the closure of the refugee camps was followed by the large waves of returning refugees moving westward . beginning in one thousand nine hundred ninety six. point of view there were retaliatory attacks and acts of revenge and a new series of massacres suck does it keep the sun from the red cross and the u.n.h.c.r. had teams stationed on the ground. they took an refugees who came to them and sort of their needs are drop. the fools but they also had to dig mass graves for the dead. it's all three to all three. well this
new humanitarian disaster continued to unfold the troops under the command of lower on does your makeup and james cover a big continued their advance into zaire just six months later they had arrived at the capital kinshasa the genesee dear those who had perpetrated the mass murder in rwanda were being pushed back or killed in some cases using civilians as human shields. if you do all good you know what the objective is to look at. but then you move this machine to insure so don't be too good to soften the forethought to cuff it but if it can we see the most only thoughtful member love you know full enough to receive these awful things to be all really good and you know this. is only fair to me because i thought you we're. not what do you speak. the capture of kinshasa by lieutenant colonel james company they marked the end of
mobutu thirty year dictatorship the new president would as had been agreed the long disarray. but a new disaster was soon to strike. zone a are now renamed the democratic republic of congo lay in ruins but was still full of material temptations in less than a year renewed tensions saw the political situation deteriorate. accuse the inca tanya of enriching themselves from the country's resources and made ominous threats toward the tutsis living in the d.r. see. james cover a bay returned to rwanda where the final battles were being fought in early one nine hundred ninety eight in the lake kivu region between rwanda and the d.r. c former asian o.c. there and armed hutu groups conducted renewed attacks on the tutsis now living there. they were led by general paul real aka b.j. . they need to worry.
some are one hundred soldiers who had supported can be returned to their country to fight us from their. p c that's why we began secretly sending our soldiers into. the about fifty a week. when they left at night and reach rwanda while it was still dark. he said if you get. those guys they grew a number the new government noticed them and the fighting intensified my keep. if you see i don't. i. when it is groups. see who could insist. on the law shortly also. we. knew some details.
but. not all of it to the boss who could be deceived the problem archimedes in a seed. and i'm sure. that is a big. one in your. city pretty easy. there were some men who wanted us to stand our ground and keep on fighting in rwanda. while others said we've already lost so many people let's go back to congo and reorganize it war i as commander opted for the second solution. general rule b.j. withdrew his men from rwanda to eastern congo where he regrouped his rebel forces. soon there was a new wave of massacres long does he really supported the rebels in their fight against paul kagame ie. the second congo war ensued which would involve seven
countries more than twenty years later the violence had not ended as dozens of proxy militias fought over priceless mineral reserves and the un force looked on powerless to intervene. genocide destroys all hope no good can come of it a never ending cycle of violence and retaliation and terror one that here could only be broken by attempts at forgiveness in a historic reconciliation process made possible by the humanity and commitment of countless individuals. i don't seem to find a solution in this sentence lists so many people over media. i don't think keating. such an extent is going
to be disillusioned because you idiotic eat until you get. even and even if you get it. you simply ask them if. you know you want implemented. so why do you have each. shock. to see every rwandan had a connection to the genocide on both sides. who chose those who did not actively participate in the genocide but who had a cousin or other family members involved in the killing these are the see this if they do the same applied to the tootsies. children those who were not victims of the genocide themselves had lost someone from their family. the genocide affected everyone everywhere wonders. what. tito road to
morrow was instrumental in the creation of the courts based on local conflict resolution traditions. two million cases were tried in total half of them resulting in convictions the judges were taken from the population. the fundamental principle no impunity but also no revenge those individuals who were killed others but were judged to be henchmen rather than commanders were handed jail sentences of around seven years. it's indeed a sense of justice those. in a genocide. those who. must the minds. made sure the. people were just given in to bring it and they went ahead and did it. but even for the look is
that is some sense zero accountability but equal to the response of the it. is we don't yet know. yet what i don't know yet is that the hour you will hear how no no. no no no no i don't. think they can understand the victim saying. to people you are not to be enough for me even in terms of just the several you have been. keeping my family and. i'm seeing. that. maybe to see that they understand what it. was the future.
the future of us was we must have a future. the go to church our trials also prove controversial and could never resolve everything but they did help families come to terms with the genocide even if many survivors were unable to forgive well the perpetrators did not expect to be pardoned they. meanwhile the inc a tiny integrated former fighters from the old government forces that had served the previous will run down leaders yuva now have your man or into the new national army in two thousand and three hutu rebel leader general paul ruach capitulated a decisive turning point. myself and general who was chief of staff of the include tanya forces had a lengthy meeting. he said when we fight against each other it means rwandans dying on both sides what's the point.
he explained his perspective while i asked him a range of questions. explained everything to me in detail. and the fact. many of those who had planned and coordinated the genocide however would end up being made accountable for their actions. some such as colonel to honest bagosora and former rwandan prime minister john commando were tracked down abroad and put on trial. the extremist hutu ideologues comprised a minority in november one nine hundred ninety four the un established the international criminal tribunal for rwanda in tanzania eighty six defendants were charged with organizing the genocide seventy were convicted most of them receiving life sentences.
in friends which now stood accused of having assisted the genesee their investigative judge john we are here was pursuing a case against the government of paul kagame me in connection with how the yairi man his death. had made a name for himself as a terrorist hunter. he has always worked for french state interests he developed a hypothesis and did all he could to substantiate it. that's true he published a report that made for some pretty astonishing reading and i've read that report and i have to say it's. how should i put it. i'm worthy of a mediocre ninth grader there's nothing in it.
incriminated several rwandan leaders provoking a crisis between france and rwanda which was convenient for a number of people but. it is. genocidal killers had received military support from the french government. so this was a way of distracting attention on the democrats it means that two major democratic nations in europe instrumental lies their own justice systems. ridiculed them in fact as if they were banana republics. so in order to acquit themselves they made the victims of the genocide responsible for their own extermination it's tragic unbelievable. in two thousand and six arrest warrants were issued for nine individuals close to polka gummi including james company bay rwanda subsequently broke off to a medic relations with france the crisis was now at its height. in two thousand and
nine year was succeeded by mark twain who questioned a substantial part of his predecessor's report only now did rwanda resume diplomatic relations with friends. similarly if. i get any pussy don't you wanda. to settle this or let you enjoy these two days left he didn't see would it also as well separated on me the norm was a boutique a lot of business such as he goes on this one year to take a. look again you're going to. assume don't pull off also said. that is mrs explain as this is a ball and you're sort of full. ok i will get there we don't bear grudges but it's nothing we won yet. and we're not angry with anyone that who should we be resentful towards who.
has just finished as a series of events a system of domination that creates these things as the case fish was with us so we grew wanderings also bear responsibility of course they are. known as we're primarily responsible for everything all of us. twenty two years after the massacre there remains of the victims are brought from a mass grave to the memorial site. the last visible traces of the genocide carried out a generation ago. the more time that passes the less people forget about the genocide the silence of the hills recalls the deafening silence of the dead.
for. trying to define contemporary rwanda is a challenge many paradoxes and contradictions remain. since being sworn in as president in two thousand and paul could gummi has been reelected three times with a significant majority. is overwhelming victories at the polls raise questions well his manner of conducting state affairs will considerably short of western standards . but he's enjoyed genuine popularity as a guarantor of security and stability now so desperately needed.
in december two thousand and fifteen the rwandan electorate voted on a referendum to remove limits on the potential tenure of the president the international community expressed its concern over this new development. mr pretty white emmys can it right for the new times. want to be here today wonder who voted overwhelmingly. tom limits what's your message to them and to the critics brought what's your. thank you for what. was reading i think was it. something that time magazine or something. read. that the image of the rwandan is. addicted to she.
think that is giving the dictatorship a good name. making that mistake without knowing that maybe this thing. because. if we're dictatorship we mean is one of the chase of people. to dictatorship. produces the things we. repeated. it's about security is just. it's about women empowerment is about. people living together. where the past has been terrible different.
progress is being made to. feed them so those folks. at home and abroad paul kagame may present his vision of africa's future renewing the idea of pan african ism the hope for cooperation and unity among all states on the continent and their independence in cultural political and energy issues. as many first did every last saturday of the month in rwanda when everyone takes part in compulsory community work. cooperation instead of conflict. i'm not. sure that. oh. if you look at.
it you never see but it could socially so. and the question is what. for me an awful kind isn't going to be the return. not accept. reject this sense of the spirit it has been created to grow but that some people are superior to others. for peace a little is to do. that. so but nothing is going to. mean that. the neat and unified entity.
in that one does tease. but enough of my offer to. me because. it's been mistreated. mismanaged. both. the so. the issues of how to set ups and then be able to call for on. we are not the entire time you soldiers who risk their lives as twenty year olds in one nine hundred ninety we are not the rwandan leader guarantor of a national unity that was utterly shattered here in rwanda. all western filmmakers can do is uncover and observe the particular circumstances that define rwanda the contradictions and the common ground. resilience does not mean resolution and
healing but it is a process on the path to healing and in today's rwanda it can only be hoped that its people will be able to find that strength to banish the demons of the past once and for all. quadriga international talk show for journalists to discuss the topic of the week coming up on quadriga there are some one thousand battle hardened islamic states biters and their families from germany or now heading home after i assess collapse what should germany do with them and how dangerous are they all that and more
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