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the americans fuming. that sentence contains the words and phrases that people want to be him. then from the english language. fiscal cliff d the most votes that we have. spoiler alert tanni, kicking the can down the road. the gurus also got lashing. they are the 38 annual misused word list. the survey by michigan's lake superior university said it is a cleaindication of just how annoying 2012 has been. and it doesn't look like the people in washington are going to make next year any better. why, oh, boy, i hope i am wrong. that is my 2 cents more. that's it for tonight's "willis report", have a great new year and a great evening. good
gerri:adam: we want to bring you up-to-date on the latest of the efforts of the senate. the white house is where rich edson is. we are waiting for the president come out of the meeting with senate democrats. we have a video showing him going in almost 40 minutes ago. has he said anything? have you heard anything? >> is continuing on capitol hill. joe biden was cut this deal. mitch mcconnell is trying to sell it to some skeptical democrats. congressional leaders are essentially giving the okay on this, but this is something that has to get through both houses of congress. so what you have here is the vice president trying to relate to concerns of a number of the more liberal democrats who think that the tax threshold is too high for them.
but there are other provisions of the one included that are not in there, and they are going to say, fiscal cliff is going to hit soon and this is the best deal we are quite yet. after that comment on the house republicans and house democrats that will need both of them to come up and vote for this thing, to get through on the house. the schedule is still a little murky. we don't know when the senate will vote on this. it will likely go first here in the senate, and then it is up to the house and the pressure is beginning to get signoff on this thing. >> that seems to be the big question. we have the video of the podium which is where we hope to get some kind of statement from someone in the senate. but it's the house leadership, nancy pelosi will have to sell liberal democrats on the idea. but eventually having to take place and then of course john boehner would have to sell house republicans on the fact that there may not be extension of cuts and they are going to be tax increases. >> exactly. and if you think of the alternative here, if liberal democrats don't like where the
threshold is, they sit on their hands and get what they want and more and more. and you have a tax increase basically up and down the income spectrum. on the other the other side of the house republicans were saying, if we don't get enough spending cuts, and just let the sequester head. it is set to hit over the next decade beginning in just a few hours from now. get your spending cuts by doing nothing. your tax increases by doing nothing. so there's a little bit of something for everyone here. gerri: as we start to wrap up, did the republicans in giving to the tax increases, did they give enough? or are the democrats who didn't want increases on anybody, they one of the line at 250,000. do they pose a real threat to the steel? >> i think that you have a protection of americans least under 250.
and if you don't vote for this, this creates a tax increase for people all the way up and down the income spectrum. and that is what vice president joe biden is trying to sell the liberals on right now. saying that this is not the threshold that he wanted. but it's something that least gives tax cuts to many americans were making much less than $250,000 per year. and if you don't do that, the taxes are going to go. gerri: all right, we are going to take a break right now. but we will break into programming the minute that anybody goes to the senate if we hear from the vice president. rich edson is covering all this for us on capitol hill. the fox business team is in place here on sixth avenue. two hours left from the fiscal cliff. the revelers are ready to party, and we are here for you all night. back to the programming totion e that injunction against the contraceptive mandate? >> it is a surprisingri, pringlehey lt be
>> a christian-based company, and they think that that is part of their credo, and 10mandment l commandments, the golden rule. the living hearing purchase pilt will kill babies. we are not going to do it. but the circuit court, the appeals court said we are going to hold up that ruling against it. in this particular case, the court says you are right that your religious exercise is something limited. you can still were shut and you say to that you are limited wit. rtgard to obamacare.ou now come the ccuit court is saying nothing can happen until the appeal is theard. lou: as you say, well, -- it iss
a short odds proposition to have got the injunction. how long are the odds to move to the supreme court? >> i think the odds are not good. o o end, they are ensuring that the catholic organizationsc orga maintain their religious liberty. and that they are not forced to violate the religious preceptsyp in providing these types of pills. these types of procedures. lou: we have a number of pr lawsuits still pending. where we stand with obamacare? it seems as though the effort ti repeal it through the courts -- theeems as though it is -- >> there are a lot of robust effort. with a lot of christian organizations and it moves itswy way towards the system. at some point, the religiouseli,
liberty issue will get the united states supreme court. not particularly in this case, the cases involving the roman catholic church.rch. we will have this decion eventually.tle lou: very quickly, has little time left here.seventn >> okay. yes. lou: 17 states setting up these exchanges.o it's starting to look like a tremendous problem. >> it is a german this problem. i don't think it they will be le to make their january 14, 2013, dae. health care insurance premiums will be more expensive rather than less expensive. it usually means lower prices for consumers, but they're trying to dohe opposite. lou: and has been a mess from the beginning. >> it absolutely has. it's only going to get worse. lou: thank you so much, peter
johnson. the administration has endangered the life and liberty of americans, including thosezy killed in benghazi.aria by ignoring sharia law., ndrew joining me now is andrew boston. he's the author of the new book "sharia versusor freedom."shar the legacy of islamict to hav totalitarianism.ith it is greatto have you with us. we appreciate it. let's start with the idea that w sharia law, a lot of people dismiss it as a cultural aspects of islamic life. it poses no threat to americans. what are your thoughts? >> sharia law is foundational in islamic society. mand but i it is also an entire political runsm, and here's where it afoul of modern human rights .ightsts unlike the bill of
rights. includes a timeless war doctrine. als the doctrine of jihad. it also rejects basic humandom freedoms by freedom ofof conscience and freedom of speech, and it imposes discriminatory legal regulations against non-muslim minoritiesin and women. it also includes dehumanizing punishments like lashing for alcohol consumption, stoning tou death for adultery andn mutilating punishments as well. lou: is it your view that theren is no way in which american culture can accommodate sharia within a multicultural society? part of which would be the muslims? >> absolutelyut not. certainly not the overtth libery crushing dehumanizing aspects of sharia. unfortunately, it is an whle. integrated whole.
it has proven historicallyp very ve difficult for muslims tosherry, secularize it and to eliminatety the liberty crushing aspects the euro one you wrote that u.s.liby amba policymakers opposed by christopher stens havelaw sacrificed u.s. lives, ourou as, nation is ignoring sharia lawy and practices. you assert that the islamic totalitarianism, you are sayig that it has a tutorial at terry and winter.ave a sular >> we have those that we chosea, to undermine and replace. hosnib mubarak, even the odious qadhafi. yet what is their replacement?n the replacement from the get-goo actually supported them of
muslim brotherhood jihadist to have a supremacist outlook. and we are still, the late ambassador stevens unfortunateln chose to go intofo the jihadisti hotbed in libya, which dates back to our borders. they were fighting then. thank you so much for being witn us. lou: as the housing market really recovering? $17 trillion is riding on the answer. answer. thes ceo
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$82 bi lou: foreign buyers are helping to boost our housing msarket. those buyers accounted for billn $8billion in home sales over the past year. 9 billion of those dollarschines coming from the chinese. t second only to those canadians, as the largest one homebuyers in presidenntry. the io and president ofao citimortgage, he is joining us the ov let's start with the overaller robustness come to power of thit recovery. is it too strong of a language to join these concepts?18 out o >> the housing is recovering on a sustained basis. eighteen out of 20 top cities are now showing growth.
take a while toet their. lou: so someone is looking at am ofit and they might eagerlyrath jumper t at that rather than wat for a full gross? >> tt is the general deal. the lou: we are looking at the trila housing market value, around 17 trillion from a little over , $10 trillion in debt.t how much do you expectto see we- the market actually grow? u.s. >> well, the market is shrinking. you know, the u.s. consumers have lerage of about 124% and now it is about 114%. terms that is one of the biggest headwinds. that is not a such a bad thing either. if you think abut.
lou: so you say that this is a market that is honorable? kn, >> i would say that this recovery is fragile. tchy. it depends -- it has also been very patchy., very it is going from a very lo point in the economy, clouding some of this information. bui would think the fiscalmers cliff discussions are definitely not helping. coming consumers can see the implications of mortge tax deductions. lou: what would happen if that would be implemented? th >> i think i would not recommen. lou: or not a this stage of theit recovery. lou: somehow i thought i would be your answer, as it would be
for most homeowners who got used to that deduction. it is great to have you with us. the amaou. the fiscal cliff fiasco. the obama plan, tothe speakers i boehner plan, it will either o alter the rising rate of spding were less than the science of our bloated government. the answer in tonight "chalk talk" is coming up [beep]
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lou: you know, everybody's getting pretty excited about that fiscal cliff negiation or impasse, however you want to3 style it. mayi want t showu, lou: everybody is getting re ofed about the fiscal clifft, negotiation. i thought i wod show youwhat thuld happen if wechange into the speaker boehner plan, the
president obama plan, let's start out with thedo-nothing plan because that's the plan we0 have right now. the cbo estimates fiscal year 2013 deficit will be, well,lionf $104 trillion fofiscal year a rl 2013.well, it's so we get up to 2014, it is going to be about $19.billion -- excuse me, trillion dollars.f $20.3 trillion. we do nothing. amat is if we do nothing aboutpb this runaway spending.
responsible government. let's take a look at what1.6 happens. way $1.64 trillion in taxes. $82 billion per year from the top 2%. senates the n same amount of net tax hikes in the president's 2013 budget that the senate rejected unanimously. byl the tax hikes that he is requesting, the national debt by it'll instead of 25.8%, that's where you get cut down. it will amount toll $25.4 trillion.that's
we will call at obama wins. a r the national media waiting forii that one. that is what will be. it will be a really dramaticis s scene. i want to show you exactly how anges. speaker boehner wants, oh, yeah? he isgoing to kick some ail. we are going to get to point you leally in dollars and the spending of this country.that'l let me rephrase that. total a $2.2 trillion reduction in thf total plan spending.
we are looking at the republican plan. we will show you just how tough it is. the only difference is how we get there. mr. obama wants one thing and mr. boehner once anothesee and we will see a knockdown drag out fight any big dramatic of negotiation. what you and i and all americans are looking at is the prospect of a recession next year if thed president and mr. boehner can't come to agreement. as much as a 10% unemploymenttyn rate, because both as president and republican parties parties, as you can seema here, they aret playing at the margin in thecust national media is not focusing
washit the reality is. they are just playing games. right along th the folks in washington. this president is guilty of class warfare. for hat? are you kidding me?ma. prident obama seems to love reat the drama. i thought he didn't like drama. the reality is that there will be so little impact on our fiscal future. the after all of the drama and whateeer the outcome, we remaih in great jeopardy. because this isn't a fiscals. future. this is not something that any of us want. don't you love it? a lame-duck session of congress. they areon the ones who have to steer us away from the fiscal cliff. joining us tonight, governor jo jo mike
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adam: again, a happy new year's eve. we are breaking into britain the latest from capitol hill as well as new york city on negotiations to avert the fiscal cliff. a live picture from times square because in an hour and a half we will celebrate the new year and the million people gathered in times square will be celebrating, but they may want to eat, drink and the merry for tomorrow. as i go live to rich edson on capitol hill, taxes at this point will go up for every american. there is no deal being voted upon as of yet. not only will taxes go up, but spending cuts will begin starting at midnight tonight. rich edson, have we heard from the vice presidents yet? rich: he is still meeting an hour and 15 minutes after that meeting began to address senate democrats to sell them on this deal they have negotiated with mitch mcconnell.
to avoid at least a large chunk of the automatic tax increases that are supposed to take effect shielding american, mounds of $450,000 for families, $400,000 for individuals keeping capital gains and dividend rates where they are pleasing amount of money going up to 20% on amounts of more than $450,000 for a family. at this point there are concerns among liberal democratic senate. there have been problems throughout the day. this is an attempt to get enough senate democrats to get on board to join senate republicans and get this through the u.s. senate. back to you. adam: you talk about the difficulty getting votes. house republicans to sign off on the deal. i want to remind everybody "the new york post" printed the chart of what kind of tax increase you can expect because at midnight right now this is
what is coming down the pike if you make $50,000 per year and you are single you will see an increase of $1238 in taxes. hundred thousand per year, $3595, 150 per year you will pay $5609 more in taxes. if you are married, 50,000, 2000 more dollars in taxes. there is essentially a deal on the table, but vice presidents joe biden is trying to sell to members of his own party in the senate. we will update this at the top of the hour or if there is some kind of movement before 11:00 p.m., we will break in once again. i am adam shapiro. >> this has been a fox business special report. we now return you to your regularly scheduled programming. . the ceo ofockheed martin just
today forced out. it is a pattern and it is not limited to the military. it permeates the entire american culture because we have said that we can pretty much do what we want to. we spent a generation saying there is no such thing as morality, it is old-fashioned. lou: that would be your generation and mine. >> that is exactly right. no thought of divorce, live and let live, free drugs, free sex, what do expect? i think what we're doin we are e planted seeds when we we y done. i want to turn to, if i may. >> it isn't your show, you can do what you want to. lou: i feel compelled to talk about something other than politics because your lament about politics from the beginning.
the grandfather's thoughts on things that matter most, we are at the very least could talk about the things that matter most as we talk. love the fact you are embracing your grandchildren. i have five of them myself, proud of them all. >> you should be. lou: family is so important. >> we are not passing down to the next generation a sense of do right. we're not passing down to them this sense that there is something as importatant as hon, duty, respect, responsibility. this is written for every parent and every grandparent. i know my grandkids will not read this until i am long gone. they will bein their 40s or 50s before they care, but they will want connect with the people above themn order to connect the people coming after th. it is important we help to try to say we have made some real mistes, but here are the things that matter. work, it matters to have respect
for yo parents, it matters to understand t world in which you live in, it matters to understand who god is, it matters to think about the purpe of pain and suffering in your life. that is what is book does. i think it is a perfect segue because that is what is wrong with our culture. we have a don't let me have responsibility, let somebody else pay the price, i just want to have a good time and have it today.rought to you by the people who created o headedo help? is there any way to stop the document author of after america, mark stein joins me ne
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size government with current american size tax rates. one or the other has got to go. we wil see. joining us now, author of the best seller, get ready for armageddon. also, a recording of -- i will explain my aughter. his new holiday cd, making spirits bright available on the amazon and itunes. i am trying to think how to do it. >> the words stuck in your throat. lou: it is terrific. it is wonderful. here to prove the point, and it's ggod to have you. i wish yo lots of luck. by the way, s t eyn. that's right. and i got it covered. >> that's right. why do i have to take lessons from this impertinent foreigner. lou: i don't see anything important abouttit as see a lot of iginal thought
and some damn fine intellect been brought to bear against an otherwise simple minded politician that cannot quite grasp the importance of solutions. you do. i thinkhat was the real question of the heart of my book. i think the question at the heart of the election that the rld wanted the answer to. is the united states capable of serious course correction? and i think both on november the sixth and in the so-called fiscal clef, sokol negotiations that followed, we are telling the world that the united states is not capable of serious course correction, and that will have catastrophic consequences for america. lou: when you say catastrophic consequences, tonight it seems as if we are, this broadcast has been organized to prove your point. bill archer joined us, former house ways and means committee in 1996 who was president at alst the destruction of the government nder president clinton and speaker gingrich.
we have hisexperience, also the experience as a member of the budget commission put together president clinton which came to nothing. just as the simpson bowles commission came to nothing. and as this fiscal clef being managed by his president does t look promising. >> that is really the point you brought up earlier. when you have european levels of spending which we now have come up you have traditional american tax rates, that cannot give. americans have a certain self-ima. canada, americans think of canada as a semi frnch socialist market. total governmenent spending in canada is about 42% of gdp. is now 41% in the united states commits of the difference between the sturdy, manley republic of limited government and self-reliance citizens and thesemi french monarchy is actually just down to 1%.
we actually spend, government spends more per citizen on the average american than the french government does in the average frenchman. lou: i think you're being unfair to americans. we think of quebec, but certainly not all of canada, and more of our refuge. reach extreme. >> they're building a maple curtain. you better get there soon. lo as we ok at what is happening, bill archer is talking about $86 trillion in unfunded liabilities as we cannot manage even e 16 tllion in debt r consecute years of italian dollar efcits, brought to us by george w. bush, and all fairness. >> well, i think the point he is that when people make coarisons, comparisons are relevant because you can run the numbers ansay in tms of gdp -- relation to gdp or never, we are not quite as bad as greece or portugal ornever, but they are just talking about a fe
ring keating billions. a trillion word is really unique to the united states. and i think that is what is going to kill us, the absolute numbers. germany can affo to bailout greece. nobodyan afford to bailout the united states, and i would agree actually th bill archer that i ink he understated. if you take the total debt situation, you're talking about just shy of three-quarters of a million dollars for the -- per american family. so you get a cup of coffee from a waitress in the diner, think of loading three-quarters of a million dollars of debt on to her shoulds for what? for what? does nothing to show for. lou: her children and their children that will be paying a large measure of that. great to have you wih us. making spirits bright. and after america with one of the ugliest pictures of an american cadaver toe tag to.
>> doom and the oven is the into debt. lou: at least some balance here. you know how much ae presidentma taxes on our middle-class. >> the bill is passed. lou: the house passes the stem emigration bill. some democrats call it racist and pandering. how is that? and republicans also introduced the achieve act. other republicans taking the lead on emigration reforms?
will talk about illegal immigration and efforts to change our immigration laws. the house today passed the so-called stem jobs act that would provide 55,000 permanent residency visas to foreign students with advanced degrees in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics. the republican measure drew fire from democrats, some democrats, some going so far as to level the measu racist. >> tt is racist if not in its intent then certainly in its effect. republicans have received were just received historically low votes from minorities in the past election, yet they want to create an immigration system that gives vises with one hand while taking them away from minorities with the other. lou: joining as now, the co-author of numerous anti illegal immigration laws in a
cards in a lottery. i'm not kidding. we were giving them away in a lottery all over the world. what this does is take those 55,000 visas and gives them away in a way that serves our nation interest to people who have advanced degrees and can help o country. in contrast, the itsy act which is a different bill that went to the senate, i think that is a disaster. basically just a rehash amnesty version of the. >> translator:. i think it amnesty. adam: adam shapiro at the fox business network. or one hour, 10 minutes from the fiscal cliff.
chuck schumer of new york state says the senate hopes to have a vote on the deal that the white house and senate leadership announced before midnight tonight. according to harry reid, they are still waiting for cbo, they have to get a prize take price e congressional budget office on the deal put on the table. i am not sure if richardson is in place, but this is the deal that we have been talking about throughout the day at fox business, that would raise taxes on individuals risen $400,000 or more. married couples $450,000 or more, as we learn later this evening this is the same deal that will have a buy down. keep the sequestration, the spending cuts that take place at 12:01, put on hold for two months, but that won't happen until you have to have the senate passed it an in the house passed it. we have seen no movement in the house because the house has not
been given any details or any paper as they would say as to deal the senate is looking at right now. you're seeing a live picture outside one of the meeting rooms, this is the ohio clock, this is where usually get statements from harry reid and different members of the senate, but we did receive a message from charles schumer a vote taking place but midnight on the deal of earning the big tax increases. we will go to break and we will be back at the top of the hour with rich edson for a breakdown on all of this for you at the fox business center. quit sking with chantix. when the doctor told me that i could smoke for the first week... i'm like...yeah, ok... little did i know that one week later i wasn't smoking. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix is proven to help people quit smoking. it reduces the urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior,
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and you are. - who doesn't fall asleep in that class? [bell rings] - they just expect that. - honestly. [chatter and laughter] - he asked me right before school started. - oh. - no way. - hi. - hi. - ♪ shine, come on and let it shine ♪ ♪ light me up, make me feel alive ♪ - hi. - ♪ you've got what it takes - she actually said hi to me. - oh, yeah. - ♪ shine on me today lou: we are back with kris kobach.
let's talk about the national immigration forum supporting the stimac to? >> yes, we are worried about the senateation and diversity. what is in store for 2013? wh well, a range of conservatives have beenr talking about this ad i ink we have a lot of fun in in store for us next year's the one all four of us have what witnessed what has been the painfully slow and frustrating footless path over the course of the past seven or eight years. in which democrats are insistin upon the wole rather than incrementalism and refor
when will we get to an enlightened position where we talk sta about whatr is in the national interest nterest and get rid of this work comprehension, which all too often is misused? to this point it has been futile? >> it can be done. you can do it, the president is of the same party and what the chairman has done, you see. >> i look at what the speaker says. that we actually need a national immigration strategy that servicer nations interest i believe the republicans are starting tput their vision for
the reforms and his national immigtion system on the table. come january, speaker boehner, senatomcconnell, will they be able to wrangle their caucuses. lou: i don't think they will have to wrangle them somuch. i'm not sure that they are going to be pursuing what you are intimating. >> what are your thoughts? are you prepared to make compromise over this achieved asked? >> not if it retains the amnesty power, which means giving presents to those who are illegal in the cuntry. it is a fiction