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spending on things we definitely don't need and ignoring the things that we do. that is my "two cents more." that's every "the willis report." had a great night and we will see you back here tomorrow ♪ ♪ lou: government reserve chairman ben bernanke announcing tapering of the fiscal program will finally begin next month. and wall street celebrating the news with an almost 300-point rally on the dow jones industrial. ben bernanke is a popular fellow tonight. i am lou dobbs. ♪ ♪ ♪ lou: good evening, everyone. ben bernanke announcing that they will reduce the bond program by $10 million in january. while saying that the paper will continue further measured steps at future meetings if the
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economy stays on course. and here is the outgoing fed chairman explaining why the decision was made to begin reining in what has been an explosive expansion of the fed's balance sheet and the greatest capital injection into our financial system in history. >> policy actions today reflect the assessment that the economy is continuing to make progress. and that it also has farther to travel before conditions can be judged as normal. notably, despite headwinds, the economy has been expanding at a moderate pace and we expect that growth will pick up somewhat in coming quarters, helped by highly accommodated monetary policy is and waning fiscal drag. lou: the dow jones, 14 times in the our leading up to the announcement, panicked by an intimation that the fed would cut back the bond purchases. implementing this so-called paper. this includes investor anxiety over the announcement sent the
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market indexes lower. down to post triple digit gains, the market up 2% on the day, the dow jones rallying nearly 300 points. the 45th record close of the year. the s&p 500 is up nearly 30 points, 40th for the record of the year and the nasdaq is up next, closing at the highest level in more than 13 years. $325 billion is valued by the wilshire 5000. this was the reaction as the fox business network reported the action from the voice of the new york stock exchange and right here, the 21st century fox headquarters. >> we broke the lows of the day, the feds are making their announcement and only broke the highs of the day moments later. ultimately good news. >> the stock market, based on
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the u.s. dollar, we are getting a big action to the upside. and by the way, down and getting sucked out of the marketplace right now. >> just about 24 minutes before the closing bell. we have seen the tapering. lou: joining me now is the insight and analysis. keith mccullough is joining us. moody's capital. let me start with you. this was a surprise for you? >> very much. a big surprise. although the market had anticipated this sooner or later that the fed would begin tapering this program. lou: 5 billion of the bond purchases, 5 billion off the mortgage bonds, what are your thoughts? looking to be as small and moderate as a move could be.
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>> it was definitely small. but it's all about the rate of change. it was actually part of this, it's going to taper in very difficult for ben bernanke to do. but i think the reaction was epic. if we gave everyone this information, they would have hit all-time highs on that. so was just an epic day. i don't know how else to describe it. >> let's use a political word that seems to energize washington. also a transformative announcement that is going to change, if you will, the trajectory for this next year? >> there's probably a lot of short covering at work today. it wouldn't be surprised if the market is soft in the near term. the market is up by 27%
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year-to-date. and so it's already somewhat overvalued and it could be, maybe it's another five to 10% on the upside going into next year's. lou: tellis it is not so. john lonski says it's overvalued? >> at the end of the day it is a bubble and you have bubbles all over the place and they have been perpetuated by the federal reserve and so the gold bubble, you see that popping today. in other words, it's a very bad for the gold bubble. and so in fact i think that that was a real message that if they taper, they will have a lot of bond funds continuing to have issues because that's the most recent and then you bundle of the switches stocks. >> listening to these smart guys talking about the evaluation and popping bubbles, nonetheless, we are going to bring them back because they are two of the smartest guys on the street. we will have them later in the broadcast. right now, we have breaking news from capitol hill. the senate has voted to approve
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the two-year bipartisan budget that cleared the house last week. the final vote despite all of the rhetoric will be 64 to 36, nine republican senators voting in favor of the deal. the bill now goes to the white house for the president's signature, and yes, he's going to sign it. and a shocking new poll shows three quarters of americans are concerned about the president's big government policies. a record 72% of americans have identified big government is the greatest threat to this nation's future, compared to 21% who mean big business and 5% say big labor. and a news box new poll out tonight. just 41% approve of president obama's job performance compared to 53% who disapprove. 67% also say that the obamacare implementation should be delayed for a year and that's up 10
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points from october. the obama administration's newest member has set off a firestorm in washington and he has been on the job for only a week. he has insulted the entire republican party, demonstrating that he doesn't know the history of his own party, and he has already been forced to apologize. telling politico earlier this year that house republicans were a cult worthy of jonestown. that was where more than 900 people were killed at a mass murder suicide. political publishing the remarks and today speaker boehner's office fired back, saying that for those who have forgotten a democratic member of congress was murdered in jonestown and a current one represented this and was shot five times in the same incident. if this is the attitude of the new white house, it's hard to
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see how the president gets anything done again. this morning he said he had an apology. he said that snark got in front of his judgment. jay carney says there is something to be said about the speed with which he apologized. however, jay carney didn't say what that something is. what it might be. much more on the chaos in the white house and some of our favorite radio stars will be reacting. john gibson and monica crowley join us and also i had a horrifying new report on how unprepared our nation is to deal with the next deadly pandemic. in america's relationship with saudi arabia seems to be crumbling as our middle eastern allies are forging ahead with plans to arm syrian rebels. k.t. mcfarland has that analysis coming up here tonight. and there is something to be said for winning the second biggest lottery jackpot ever, to
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contained and full containment expected by the end of the week. california officials confirming a suspicion of intentionally set fires throughout the northern california area over the summer, including the so-called clover fire that killed one person and distorted nearly 200 structures. in the northeast, icy conditions, leading to a chain reaction pileup in new york city involving at least 30 vehicles, and authorities say that eight people suffered minor injuries. many roads innthe new york and new england regions are still messy from yesterday's winter storm. much of the northeast escaping with only a few inches of snow and totals were much higher in boston and parts of new hampshire, both getting about 6 inches of snow and subzero temperatures, also leading to one death from exposure. forecasters say a good part of the east coast this weekend will see much warmer weather. with that, we are going to come right back. ♪
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>> ben bernanke makes his concluding announcement. tapering will begin. and the markets love it. john lonski and kate mcculloch are with me next. ♪ ♪
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lou: a federal judge today sentenced a former top epa official to just over 2.5 years in prison for defrauding the government of nearly a million dollars. john beal convinced his bosses at the epa but he was also doing top-secret work for the cia, overseas, and therefore could not show up for work. but in reality he was vacationing in cape cod.
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many say he was motivated by the rush of getting away with something, and apparently suited for quite a while. and in doing business with the irs, also engaging in bad behavior. according to an inspector general report, nearly 1200 vendors who have contracts with the irs all over a half billion dollars in back taxes. and tim kaine, the newest democrat railing against obamacare. he said this morning that those of us who run things as mayors and governors, it is causing us to tear our hair out. if only you all were alone and not. one of the frustrations, the ever-changing obamacare deadlines. and today, hundreds of insurers participating in the state and federal exchanges, announcing that they were voluntarily delaying the payment due date for those who want to have their coverage beginning january 1.
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in most cases, consumers who sign up by monday will now have until january 10, in which to make their first premium payment as opposed to new year's eve. the previous deadline set by the white house. and we are getting a preview of how big of an impact that obamacare will have on the 2014 midterms. take a look at this advertisement by this conservative group, ending spending. jeanne shaheen. >> it will increase choices for families. it will promote competition. >> the facts. more than 20,000 new hampshire patient and obamacare offers only one ensure on the individual market. if you like your senator, you can keep him. if you don't, you know what to do. ♪
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♪ lou: the advertisement being called an advertisement that every democrat should be scared offin 2014. turning now to the fed decision today. the direction of this economy in these markets. keith, jon has made it clear that he thinks is overvalued and you are talking about popping bubbles. you we are looking at more points on the dow jones, the market cap added. what is an investor to do here? >> if you really truly understand the making of this, then you just buy the bubble. because basically you are rolling from bubble to bubble. so now the bond bubble is popping in on that capital from this perspective just goes to the equities. so anyone who is making the call that stocks are overvalued, it's going to get more expensive, in particular people have to roll out of the bond market. if you look at this, it's widely
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over bone. and that is the big take away. is that that final bell ringing went on, that it is for sale, it will continue in the new year and it's really part of this. lou: so what do you think? >> he could very well be right. we looked at previous recoveries. we have found that the market does not talk out into unless it's at least 20 or 25% overvalued. and so you might look at this as the start of an extended episode of the fed tightening monetary policy. in the last time that the fed began to tighten monetary policy after a recession was june of 2004. the market didn't peak until october of 2007. and then they began to tighten monetary policy in february of
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1994 and so then when it was grossly overvalued. lou: given the determination, is this finally the arrival of the great rotation of capital from the bond market into equities? and will the bubble get bigger than many had expected? >> the fun story this year, this is part of the case that we have had. growth is going to surprise people and people are going to have to sell bonds and buy stocks. if anything, it's more of a confirmation of what people missed. people have been putting the cherry on top of this and that's kind of the risk of the roll into next year. and you know, it's associated with a tremendous amount of potential sediment in the market. lou: this includes the
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discussion on which the bubble can grow larger. the why worry? ben bernanke made it clear that he will keep the federal funds rate at close to 0% indefinitely. >> as far as you can see. if you are not getting anything in a savings account, why not go into equities and benefit from dividend incomes? lou: john lonski, thank you so much. we appreciate it. and we will take the advice of bby the darn bubble. headline of the evening. and we have an important book recommendation for you tonight. this one is called a people, winning back the country with
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lou: a surveillance program recommending an overhaul of the foreign and domestic spy practices. including revamping the phone records collection program, the president will decide, which proposals to implement if any of those in this includes top-secret materials by edward snowden. an expert weighing in, on the possibility of amnesty and the documents that he possesses. >> i think he ought to be part of this for reasons and if convicted by a jury, hanged by the neck until he's dead. lou: mohammed morsi faces new chargee conspiring with terrorist groups, including hezbollah and hamas. he has been charged for incittng
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murder and violence since he was taken on the military in july and saudi arabia western allies continue to see diplomatic solutions and saudi arabia has condemned the united states for its policies, both in syria and iran, which they say risk the security and stability of the middle east. and india is outraged over what they have said was a despicable and barbaric arrest in new york city. >> strip-searched, she says she was kept in a cell with drug
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addicts until posting bail. she said she was entitled to diplomatic community. and they have removed concrete barriers around the united states embassy and they are also h theirng u.s. consulate identity of the two largest political parties, scheduling canceling scheduled meetings and reprisal for her arrest. joining us now is national security analyst k... mcfarland. it is good to see you. first, the issue of the deputy counsel here. the rest, apparently being strip-searched. as well as the visa charges. >> i just don't get it. it doesn't make any sense to me. diplomats have been in the united states and so there is
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something that has gone very wrong here. something we don't get why there is a colossal major mistake and the problem is that now it risks the relationships wiih our entire asian policy. lou: elisa with national respect, it never should have been. >> that's right, and never should have happened. and i understand where michael bloomberg is. but where in the world is the president and would c-span on this? >> they seem to be apologetic after the fact. lou: okay, let's turn to mohammed morsi. no surprise there. but these are also death penalty charges brought against him. >> when i was in egypt it was clear that it was not just
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hezbollah and iran, but al qaeda and there's a lot of evidence with this. and they refuse to let the army go clean them out. and i think what you will see and my guess is that you will see major political trials. lou: is a trial in the future for edward snowden? is he going to be brought to justice at all? it was interesting. you hear the former director of the caa saying that if he is convicted, he should be hanged by the neck until dead. that's interesting on the matter. >> perhaps we should give them amnesty, so far, there have been
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two categories as part of this. one is the current events and the other is how you gather intelligence and how we listen in on phone calls and that does the most harm and that is what is now starting to come out. lou: given that this was an act of treason, i don't think that's a legal term. but it seems simply like a straightforward statement of fact. he was serving and why in the world was he permitted to leave the united states in any form? >> not only that, but why was he permitted access to all this stuff? so how did he slip through the cracks?
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>> he had a number of other employees and contractors as well. those who just turn him over. >> it is just incompetence at the highest level and at the mother lode of secret. >> so what is to be done without? >> my guess is that he stays in moscow were the russians don't really want him. i mean, it's going to be a cold winter. and he is a hot potato. giving him some kind of amnesty. lou: is in it a pipe dream for him to think that he has already turned over all of that confidential top-secret information? to both the chinese as well? >> yes, they say they have some stuff left over. but the tragedy is that this is a national debate. and if he had taken his concern,
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he would now be an american hero to i wonder about that because i do believe a full on an honest public debate and the american people pfizer security very highly. >> on the other hand, we have seen. >> i want to be a little bit washer that we have this right kind of scrutiny. >> and i want to understand the moral equivalent that allows us,
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with the nsa that has not violated anyone's rights. and we have every indication and we have more discussion and outcry about this nsa than we do about the irs and that is upside down and wrong. lou: up next, a frightening new report. revealing how unprepared this nation is in the event of a widespread infectious disease outbreak and we're coming right back. >> for little darlings, 20 million people out of work we are going to take it up in the "chalk talk" tonight and we will
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lou: a shocking new report exposes united states to fighting infectious diseases. the new report from trust for america's health care 34 states of failing grade receiving a score of five or fewer out of 10 when looking at her capabilities to protect against infections
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from antibiotic resistant super bugs from the flu virus. georgia, nebraska, new jersey tied for the low was one of the hampshire did pass. the average price for ground beef hits the all-time high. $3.61, 45% increase from a decade ago. some are expecting prices to soar at seven or $8 a gallon on less congress passes the farm bill by the year end. and where prostitution is legal workers are demanding the same retirement tax benefits as professional soccer players to put up to 73a dash 70,001 dash $7,000 into a fund. citing that they will the
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physically demanding jobs and a low professional life. john gibson, and talk-show host from chicago tribune columnist and john, a great to have you with us. let me start the new outrage on the job all we can john conte starts to make these outrages comments about the jonestown killings? >> is that addressed only to the conservatives or republicans in general? [laughter] lou: he made it very clear it was the republican party. >> isn't that about hope and change?
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i think it is christmas and the season of peace. lou: but he does not seem to be in the spirit. >> i don't want to go back to jonestown. doesn't john podesta soundalike a tough guy? >> i want to interject i was a reporter in san francisco and remember jim jones was in bet with democrats in san francisco. his people's temple was facilitated by democratic politicians who then ran for cover when it hit the fan but here is podesta to insult the two-party in the same way the president wrote
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to somebody referring to the two bankers -- the two-party this is the insulting way people only want to control the size and cost of government and do not get it. and center for american progress, he did run it has been a leader for all longtime. lou: does he survive? >> i thought they were refreshingly honest because we have heard so many lies coming for so many years we know how they view the republican party and conservatives and tea party at least he said the truth this is how they looked at them. remember he is to bring a new attitude and a new approach and john baker use the approach are you kidding
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me? the new boss save as the old boss that is how leaders like eric cantor or paul ryan to be those puppies they have ben to go to the white house thinking the white house willing case and with good will of their under that delusion i cannot help them. >> remember john predestinate is brought in to go around congress. what can the president get done without dealing with congress? expect an avalanche of executive orders to brush aside those people that he calls the jonestown mass murderers. lou: when we come back we will start with him and his
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assessment of the new republican bad -- advertisement that they should be afraid of that. that does not happen often. my new book of people -- the people. now available online for pre-orders and check this out on twitter or lou dobbs news and there is a link to everything on the jobs.com. there are some questions about the perpetual son than here is the interesting back story. stay with us. tñ
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lou: hata also speaker has long denied he is bronze because of fake tanning bet it turns out that may be questionable but it turns out he has accepted campaign contributions from the indoor tanning association and he actually lives in a washington d.c. apartment owned by a lobbyist for the sun tanning association although they insist there is no tanning bet at that residence guaranteed. and interview with cnn barbara walters said the media and american public for so disappointed with the obama is latest policy fumbles and failures because they thought he was going to be the of the'' messiah.
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we're back with the "a team." every democrat should be scared. >> they should be. they will take obamacare and wrapped around their neck then watch them try to swim. all of them were parroting the same nonsense as the president if you want your health care you can keep it in -- you can keep your doctor, right? lou: the truth is the republicans have put appears to be a clear-cut extraordinary am political and advantage of the bid terms if they don't screw it up to shut down government what are your thoughts?
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>> this this pointed out it will be shown over and over against every democrat running for office for:if you show that ad campaign to jean chretien and this year's site teemed the obama team runs with a kid in his pajamas drinking hot chocolate. talk about obamacare with your parents over christmas. is just shows they don't have a prayer. the republicans are coming with brass knuckles and these guys have hot chocolate. it is not close. lou: where were these guys in 2012? >> it is interesting to see this ad, hourly all of those
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and then repeating the exact same play and. this is ready-made ammunition and if he thought 2013 was bad then wwit for 2014. the challenge will not go off the rails for the republicans it will not start with immigration anb distracted they have to be on obamacare the first in the the issue. >> i hope the president would cut another commercial to put the kid in his lap and say if you want to keep your christmas present if you like it you can keep that. period. >> we know that's not true. lou: it saves about what this president has promised. do you think this is retrievable?
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is the breach of trust with the american people, can he recover? >> not of the trust issue. approval they go up but it is the irs, a pate gauzy gauzy, with the ap know this that you can keep your doctor or your health plan. another vet. idle fate he would get his trust members up fed is a way oh -- agreed to be a weight around his neck and he will seek as he tries to swim he will seek. lou: thank you for being here. to maronite check king joins us. we will see you tomorrow.
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