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>> plans for tonight? what are you doing for the new year? >> i like to go out on broadway and do something dramatic with 30 or 40 people that is so off the wall. >> we've got the weather for it. >> i'm completely amazed. >> happy new year to you, happy new year to all of you.ns and k mcfarland. good night. >> 129 innocent people dead. [ sirens ] . john: how can government protect us? when politicians spend so much time obsessing about other things. >> drugs are menacing our society. john: government orders colleges, make sure students feel safe. >> just want to be together. john: some politicians are obsessed with gambling. new york's attorney general issuing a cease-and-desist order. >> let people play, who cares! >> if you're a rich businessman you may get your cronies in government to forcibly take people's property. >> for you to call them cronies
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it's unfair. john: politician are cronies of businessman, safety nannies and aspiring social engineers. instead of keeping us safe, they chip away at our liberty. that's our show, tonight. obviously, the biggest threat to liberty is one that will take your life. recently in paris, terrorists killed more than 130 people, and afterward, isis bragged we successfully attacked the capital of prostitution and obscenity. were prostitution and obscenity the reason the murderers did what they did? i don't presume to know. but i do know that the first and most important job of government is to protect us from enemies, foreign and domestic. and no government can do that
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perfectly, but it's much harder to do when politicians obsess about so many other things that some people do. prostitution, obscenity, but also gambling, drug use, speech and more. when politicians go after things like that, they can't focus on real enemies, and yet in america that's what's happening. our government has told colleges you better treat every student equally and make them feel safe, or we'll cut off your funds. one result is that when people are gunned down in parts of the world, on college campuses, the most privileged and pampered adult children obsess about our right not to be offended. that idea is a threat to free speech. samantha harris works for the foundation for individual rights and education. >> there is a terrible conflation of the right to actual physical safety with
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some perceived right to emotional safety. john: let's give some examples. let's play video from the university of missouri where some students were upset how the university responded to complaints about racist comments. members of the football team joined the protest. refused to play a game. the game was played only after the president of the university resigned. then claimed that media coverage of the protest was insensitive. so they demanded a safe space. safe from hostile media. the student photographer showed up to take pictures and this happened. >> don't have a right to take our photos. >> go! >> no, i do have the right to a photo. first amendment.
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>> hey, hey, ho, ho, reporters have got to go. john: that reporter was very composed and said all the right things. >> i have a job to do. i'm documenting this. >> hey, hey, ho, ho -- >> this is the first amendment that protects your right to stand here and protects mine! >> they said that the photographer was threatening their safe space, and i can see why they want to feel safe. >> yeah, but what they didn't realize is the very same first amendment protecting the rights of the media to be covering that public protest. john: and what was creepy to me is it wasn't just naive students who demanded the photographer leave a public space, a journalism professor did this too, and this university official. >> what's your name? >> my name is 1950. >> are you with the office?
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>> no, my name is concerned students of 1950. >> she calls herself 1950. that was the first year the university admitted black students. the protesters pushed the photographer all the way out of area. >> you're pushing me! >> you're not doing your job. you're not doing your job. >> it's my right to walk forward. john: samantha, at least the university later said that was wrong. >> they did. and the protesters also did later walk back demands that the media stay out and invite the media to come participate. john: but the climate is wrong, you say? >> yes, yes, you see that the first impulse of administrators and faculty is often to censor, and it's reflective of the dysfunctional cult our campus when it comes to free speech. john: the attitude we have to focus on victimhood is amazing to me.
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a self-described transwoman named emma tweeted out it was repulsive the way journalists used paris to sweep conflict of the university of missouri under the rug. >> yeah, just how pathological this conflation of emotional and physical safety has become. john: and yet, even crazier than the missouri protest is what went on at yale after the university told students be careful what you wear on halloween. be sensitive. one professor sent out a thoughtful e-mail who said who's business is it to control the forms of costumes of young people? it's not mine. some students were outraged by that. saying not censoring costumes would lead someone to wear an offensive one. to clear things up, the professor went to talk to the students and this happened. >> what the [ bleep ] did you accept the position? who the [ bleep ] hired you? sit down.
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if that is what you think about -- sit down. it is not! you understand that! it's about creating a home here! you are not doing that! you are disgusting! >> i think it's the protesters who are disgusting. >> the e-mail from the faculty member was such a thoughtful invitation to dialogue. the idea that having to be exposed to ideas that one might disagree with, even in the most respectful way is something that for which someone should have to step down from their position, it's so illiberal. john: north carolina state referred people to the link which guided them on what kind of costume would be okay or insensitive? >> yeah, i like to say that nowadays you need a graduate degree in sociology to figure out what to wear on a college campus. john: does this come just from crazy people in colleges or government? >> we've seen guidance from the
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federal government that suggests that universities or more than suggests since they control federal funding that universities adopt broad definitions of sexual harassment. john: broad can mean ambiguous, you don't know what's okay? >> exactly. we've seen that in chilling effect on a classroom speech. professors investigated on classroom speech on difficult and sensitive topics. john: i see why, the education department said any unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature including verbal conduct. >> right. and even though the federal government has sort of privately walked that back, fire and other civil liberties groups wrote to the office of civil rights after they issued that language about any unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature and wrote back to fire. john: fire is your group. >> yes, it does not trickle down to universities adopting this language in droves and investigating students and
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faculty for speech simply because it's sexually related and it offends someone. john: one more college example. this one from california's claremont mckenna college, where after students complained they didn't fit in, a dean e-mailed a student saying she would like to talk to students who don't fit the mold. students were offended by that. >> now you put into writing we don't fit the mold. nothing that you have said has made me feel like i am protected by you, that i am safe in your office. nothing. john: the dean then resigned. at least some students found that outrageous. claremont student taylor schmidt wrote this editorial entitled we dissent. taylor joins us now. you dissent how. >> to the claims of -- john: you work for the alternative newspaper. >> right, the claremont independent. and we dissent to the claims of racial bias that claremont
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mckenna showed disrespect to the administration for easily giving in to the inappropriate protest. john: are you an outcast at school for having the feelings? >> a little bit, yes, we've received a lot of messages from students who are afraid to go public like we did, they feel they will become outcasts. >> what does that mean? afraid? they're not going to beat you up, are they? >> there have been instances of students' dorm rooms being vandalized, being anything other than progressive on a campus are threats, and there are real threats. the students can get whatever they want if they yell loudly enough. that sets a horrible precedent. john: that's going on all over the place. american schools are not alone in this kind of craziness. check out this short australian film, starts in math class. >> question? one plus one.
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yes? >> two. >> incorrect. >> yes? >> multiculturalism. >> well done, simon. next question, what is three times three? yes? >> nine. >> wrong. yes penelope? >> gender equality. >> very good penelope. >> is this a joke? >> you think gender equality is a joke? >> no, isn't this a math class. >> don't be so racist. >> i asked a question. >> questions are offensive. john: this student presents a brilliant mathematical solution for assessing heart attack risks. >> it could potentially save thousands of lives. >> seven. >> you barely even read it. >> you used red pen. >> red is considered offensive in many religions. >> why would you belittle everything down to a singular
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color. humanity is a rainbow of beauty and spirituality. >> yeah. john: it's obviously a parody but does this feel real to you guys? >> unfortunately yes, and it's gotten worse to the point you are not only going to be vilified for disagrees with the protesters, but there is a new phrase saying silence is violence and use that to demonize those who don't agree with them. john: silence is violence? >> that's correct. john: you didn't laugh because you thought it was -- >> too real. it's meant to be a comedy and well done but unfortunately reflects the reality of college campuses well. john: thank you, samantha, taylor. what are other threats to liberty. when i asked you to social media warren waddles responded -- warren, you are absolutely right. the people who keep asking politicians to fix things pass a law, they're partially at fault. the media does that all the time.
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we saw an example in the smarmy questions during the republican debate on cnbc, i was surprised when one republican who is anti-liberty pushed back. >> we're talking about fantasy football? john: more on that and threats to liberty next. this is the one place we're not afraid to fail. some of these experiments may not work. but a few might shape the future. like turning algae into biofuel... technology for capturing co2 emissions... ...and cars twice as efficient as the average car today. ideas exxonmobil scientists are working on to make energy go further... matter how many tries it takes. energy lives here.
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. >> trust your numbers, play this sunday for your shot to be a fantasy football millionaire. >> i play weekly. john: it's fun. millions of americans bet on fantasy football and other things. in new york, a control freak politician wants that to stop. the state attorney general eric schneiderman ordered the two main fantasy sites draftkings and fanduel to stop accepting bets. betting in football is illegal gambling and of course it is gambling. but so what! the stock market is gambling. i gamble all the time. i'm an adult, can't i risk my money as i choose? schneiderman's own government runs a much sleazier gambling operation called the state lottery. they use taxpayer money to fund ads like this. >> the new york mega millions
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jackpot is now over $195 million! >> the odds of winning the state lottery are far worse than the odds in fantasy football or most any other bet, but lotteries are legal because government runs them. steve runs a website that gives advice how to bet. 20 years ago started a sports betting business but government shut it down. now you just advise people, if they hadn't shot you down you'd be a billionaire now, probably. >> maybe i could have fought like they did. john: so schneiderman says gambling creates public lelth and economic problems. right. well, look, the average bet on football is $15. i don't know how that holds weight. john: the law says it's illegal to gamble on a no skill game. >> they call sports gambling no skill, but then again we chase people from playing all the time, they have too much skill. fantasy is obviously a game. john: obviously a game of
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skill. >> but that doesn't it make it not gambling. there are plenty of games of skill that are gambling. black jack, poker, all gambling. john: they are anti-choice, anti-fun. some politicians reflexively resist anything new. when mixed martial arts came about, some people called it barbaric, mma was one of the most popular and lucrative sports in america. smarter states got rid of the bans not in new york. uber and airbnb, the ride sharing and room sharing sites are incredible. they deem them unregulated. they are not. they're regulated by competition. politicians think only their regulation is good but competition is better regulation. the politicians think they should decide how you use your
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property. also they get campaign money from unions and taxi companies and hotels. schneiderman got big bucks from the casino industry. maybe that's why he's suing. >> seen the movie before. they got rid of the sports gambling industry. created a void. european publicly traded companies fill the void. now get rid of the two american companies paying taxes, spending all this money on ads, who's going to come in. the demand is created. john: the businesses don't go away. >> it's offshore. the void is fills and billions go offshore never to return. john: during the cnbc republican debate, a moderator asked jeb bush this question. >> fantasy sports, to play you have to assess your odds, wait for an outcome that's out of your control. isn't that the definition of gambling and should the federal government treat it as such? >> first of all, i'm 7-0 in my fantasy football league. john: bush gave this evasive answer. >> there should be some
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regulation, i have no clue whether the federal government is the proper place. john: i was surprised that chris christie interrupted to say this. >> we have isis and al qaeda attacking us and we're talking about fantasy football! let people play! who cares! >> who cares? i'm all for the government not telling us what to do with our recreational time if it doesn't offend or hurt anyone. [ applause ] >> it hurts some people. some people have a gambling problem. i'm playing devils advocate. >> 1% are the degenerate type of gamblers that ruin their life of gambling. some have it in the dna, if it wasn't gambling, it would be drugs or women or whatever else they want to ruin their lives. john: banning it doesn't stop them from doing it. >> absolutely not. let's make regular sports gambling legal, too. it's what americans want, what americans do. very few things that americans do anymore. that's one of them. we're good at it, let us make
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the money, let us bring it here. [ applause ] >> thank you, steve. just for the record, we libertarians aren't crazy about giving government more tax money, but leaving people free. great idea. coming up, other ways government eats our liberty while claiming it's covered, it's bare, it needs more of our money. that's a lie. >> government's covered
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. john: when i ask you on social media what are threats to our liberty, mike tweeted the biggest threat is government take more of my hard earned money to use as others see fit. good point, mike, as government grows and takes more of our money, we are less free because we can't spend on things we think are important. of course politicians say every dollar we take from you is used for something essential. that's nonsense.
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the general accounting office said the department of homeland security spent $3 billion on salaries for government employees who never showed up for work. drew johnson tracks crazy ways government spends your money. why did they pay them for not going to work? >> basically it was easier to pay these people not to show up than it was to fire them, so they were -- >> dangerous or worried about them, they didn't want them in the office, so paid them to stay home. >> a billion dollars a year. john: we keep talking about the federal government, your group focuses on state and local. i was surprised to have you tell me to look at the numbers, they spend about as much? >> absolutely. you look at what the federal government spends every year, almost 4 trillion, and the state and local governments added together 3.8. almost the same amount of money. john: who's worse?
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>> the federal governments had a easier time. the local governments, state governments are worse because we don't have as many eyes on them. john: how do you find the waste? >> filed open records request for budgets, audits. we look at just contracts and government credit cards. in tennessee, i remember one time, i found that a mayor had bought his mistress lingerie from victoria's secret using government credit cards. this time of year, a lot of people take their employees out. a lot of government officials for thanksgiving or christmas dinners or celebrations and don't get a $10 pizza, they go to ruth's chris or morton's or fleming's and spend a thousand. john: you found the department of health and human services spend $3,000 to see if monkeys make good decisions on cocaine. 7 million to see if rabbit's eyes blink fast or lsd. they're saying look, we're going to learn things about drug addiction.
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>> that's the claim but the fact of the matter is no animal testing is relevant to humans in how humans react to recreational drugs. and we waste 150 million dollars on these sorts of tests and have no relevance to humans at all, it's killing animals for no reason and wasting money for no reason. john: senators mccain and flake came out with patriotism? >> money has gone to pimp patriotism at professional sporting events. so for example, they'll have somebody from the army come and drop a puck at an nhl game or throw first pitch at major league baseball game or flyover. john: we thought they were just honoring the servicemen? >> you would think except the billionaire nfl owners are getting a couple hundred thousand dollars for having a flag fly over the stadium. it's really disgusting.
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john: worse than paid patriotism which cost taxpayers 7 million dollars is what the pentagon spent on one gas station in afghanistan. >> if all goes to plan, the project to lay the groundwork for domestic fuel industry. john: if all goes as planned. how'd it work. >> craptastically, like everything in afghanistan. we wasted over $40 million and don't know if anybody is using the gas station because we can't get to it. there are two other examples in afghanistan that stand out in my mind. one is $34 million to a soybean growing project. and soybeans don't grow in afghanistan and people in afghanistan don't eat soybeans. $34 million wasted. and half a million dollars for afghan facility for domestic police force that literally melted because the construction products that were used. they didn't take into account it's hot in the desert in afghanistan.
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john: drew's group revealed that the national endowment for arts spends your money on lots of film festivals. what do your dollars help fund? here's a sample. ♪. john: this film was called what up? shows a rapper pretending to decapitate himself and having sex with his own severed head in the bathtub. we won't show you that part. another film you paid to exhibit shows a man urinating blood and then yelling at his dog. finally you paid for showings of sarah goes bang, a young woman's attempt to lose her virginity while working for john kerry. >> i'm psyched, guys, campaigning for john kerry? john: were they ashameed? >> they don't have a response, they don't have a justification, and frankly, i love all sorts of art. i think there should be this ridiculous crap, i think there
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should be little orphan annie plays. i think there should be nudity but paid for by the people who consume it. nigh my 90-year-old grandmother goes to sleep in tennessee, doesn't want to pay for this stuff. if i want to pay for it, then great. you have a bureaucrat deciding what is good art, have you censorship concerns and wasted tax dollars, let us support the art we want to support. john: sum it up for us, why do you do what you do? how is government waste a threat to our liberty? >> i think it's very clear when you take your time to make your money, and that money is taken for something that's not appropriate, that isn't a role of government, that you can't spend your money on. it hurts your ability to enjoy the sort of life that you want, you don't have the time with your family that you want, you don't get to make decisions that are important to you. john: thank you, drew. keep doing your good work.
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. >> a measure to legalize medical and recreational marijuana is rejected. >> rejected by nearly 2-1 vote. john: watching nye owner network, i think ohio voters voted not to legalize marijuana. what they left out is what ohio voters rejected was not simply legalization, it was a self-serving plot to let a few rich people have a monopoly on marijuana sales. people voted against the monopoly. i don't know what public opinion is about legal weed. i know that the most successful
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anchor on cable tv is certain legalizing it would be a bad idea. >> it sends a message, a message to children. >> it's okay. john: and has guests on the show to support his position like members of the kennedy family. >> two most damaging drugs on the planet are both legal, alcohol and nicotine, we don't need another legal drug, legalization will increase prevalent, youth are at risk. >> they're going to make money off of people like myself who are addicts and i don't think this makes our country stronger. john: obviously, drugs don't make a country stronger. wait a second, the kennedys got addicted despite the drugs being illegal. prohibition didn't protect them. ex-congressman kennedy advises an anti-pot group, called smart approaches to marijuana. i think it is stupid approaches. will works for the group.
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educate me. >> legalization at the end of the day means rich people getting richer off of marketing an addictive drugs, that's what we don't want to see. john: there is already an industry, rich people getting richer illegally doing it, but they are criminal gangs arming themselves and hurting other people. >> the illegal industry glamorizes and commercializes it, it's going to get new users, mainly young users. $6 million for a 30-second super bowl ad, that is going to get a lot of addicted users. john: it's logical to think if you advertise it, if it's legal, more kids will try it, more people will try it, but we don't have evidence of that. in the places where it is legal, look at holland and portugal. holland weed is legal, portugal criminalized all drugs. unicef in a survey, 2013, they
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ask kids 11 and 13 years old and 15 years old, 22% of the americans used weed. smoked weed or vaped. in holland, 17% where it's legal. portugal 10%. fewer kids use it. they took the cool out. >> it really depends what numbers you're looking at. you mentioned 11 and up to 15-year-olds. when you look at vulnerable age, 17, 18, 19, 20, youths tripled in the netherland's front in 1988 to 1996 from 15% to 44% among that age group. that's what we're concerned about. the industries are -- john: when it was first legalized. >> over a decade. john: then it went back down again after the cool wore off? >> not for the vulnerable. statistics you were sharing were for younger users, the concern is not the 13 and 14-year-old, the concern is the 17, 18, 19, 20-year-old, they are addicted life long users, they know they have to target you to have the constant source
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of revenue for themselves. that's what we're concerned about. john: did alcohol prohibition work? >> depends how we define did it work? it did reduce consumption by almost 50%. john: increased murders, crime, created al capone. >> prohibition is a false analogy for marijuana. we had liquor stores, bars and we tried to shut it down. the only place prohibition is analogous is in colorado. saying we're going to shut it down. across the united states, it's not a good analogy because we don't have that embedded like we had with alcohol. we don't have that embedded in the culture already. john: you mentioned colorado. your boss once told me just wait, you'll see how colorado is mistake now that they legalized. one, two, three, four years, all the disasters that you predicted haven't happened? >> i don't know what the supposed disasters are.
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john: crime, car accidents, children. >> we can say this. 32% increase in fatalities related to marijuana, people driving under the influence of marijuana. we know that 56%. john: whoa, whoa, when there's a fatality now they test and find thc in people's blood. >> right. john: and there's more of it because it's legal. but it stays in your blood for weeks. it doesn't mean that caused the accident. >> it doesn't necessarily, but to say that when there's more people driving under the influence, it is going to -- we don't know perhaps the exact breakdown of every fatality, how they're still developing testing to see how much impaired the person was. it's true, it can stay into your system up to 30 days but many of the people that use it, it's coming out of washington state too where they are impaired and people use marijuana and alcohol together which has a serious negative impact. no, the sky didn't fall, there are sobering statistics that we have to look at and say do we
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want to see this. john: this is why traffic accidents have shot up? >> in colorado? john: they haven't. flat. crime, flat. the predicted disaster is hard to find. >> right. john: thank you, will jones. later how liberty is threatened when crony capitalists partner with government. it's as if they're using thugs to beat people up. i accuse donald trump of that. >> excuse me, other people use thugs today. i don't. john: we'll debate, next our studio audience gets to weigh in.
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. john: this month, pennsylvania authorities announced they were investigating oakland raiders linebacker ray armstrong for barking at a police dog before a football game? really? should you be allowed to bark at a police dog? isn't that part of liberty? >> yeah. >> no. john: why? >> it distracts the dog. john: distracts the dog. should be part of liberty. here's what some of you wrote --
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all good points, let's invade your safe space. were any of you triggered by something we said tonight? do you have complaints for me or my panel, drew johnson of the taxpayer protection alliance. samantha harris of fire. will jones who opposes legal weed. who's first? yes, you, sir. >> would you consider the usage of marijuana as a gateway drug to other drugs? >> for some people it doesn't but for many people it does, that's very concerning. >> marijuana first then other things. many people. >> most started with milk, too. yes, ma'am. >> do you think part of the reason why we see college kids engaging in the protests is it's part of the rage against
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the machine aspect? >> historically, college students have always protested, i think that the big difference we're seeing is in the way administrations respond and how quick administrations are to agree too often to censorship and liberal demands made by students. john: yes, sir. >> why do you think most americans -- not most but many people resonate with people like bernie sanders who are okay to have up to 90% of personal tax. >> some people don't understand math who think that's reasonable. i think most people are frustrated when government wastes money, and know that there's a reasonable role for government, and that our government has gone far beyond that in scope and in expense and everywhere. john: yes, sir? >> a question about drug legalization. isn't it so that a person that becomes addicted to a drug does so by themselves and they
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victimize themselves but an innocent victim say in a drive-by shooting is not participating in that, and is innocent and the consequence is restricted to the person that is useing. >> if it's illegal, there are drive-by shootings and gang wars and innocent people get killed? >> let's say tobacco for example. eric garner was accused by the police of selling cigarettes. if it's legal or illegal, there's a black market for these drugs. >> only a black market because they're taxed so high. he was selling illegal untaxed cigarettes. >> with the marijuana industry it's going to have taxes, a vice tax on it, and the reality is it's going to have a big black market, the market is thriving in colorado. to answer your question specifically, other people suffer the consequence when you do something under the influence that intoxicates you, and that's what marijuana does. john: from facebook, travis said --
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. >> i think that ultimately if you put too much faith into politicians, you're in a lot of trouble. i think at this point where, we are with our country, that we need more citizen activists, people to stand up and hold politicians accountable, because the fact of the matter is when a politician is elected, he says or she says certain things that rarely come true, and so we need to make sure to keep them on the track of limited government. john: and drew, again for you, on facebook, jeremy arnold wrote -- >> i disagree with that to a point. i understand what the argument is, which is we elect people who basically aren't suitable for the job sometimes or lie us
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to and do something different, that's where we need to not just give a pass to incumbent lawmakers, we need to hold people accountable and vote people out when they start threatening our liberties. john: thank you, panel. thank you, audience. [ applause ] >> coming up, my fight with donald trump.
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. john: less than a year from now, we elect a new president. who will i vote for? i'm one of the single issue voters. one thing matters most to me, which candidate is least likely to threaten our liberty? in other words, who is less likely to micromanage my life. spend us broke. less likely to involve us in foreign wars that will reduce our safety? of all the candidates the one most likely to protect the dignity of the individual is, well, i'm not sure. i know it's not her. she wants to micromanage america and police the rest of the world. it's not him. he would allow us some freedoms but spend and regulate us into poverty. this group offered better choices but some of them want to police the world and police our bedrooms. i think the one candidate most likely to leave us free is this man. but he's a long shot. he hasn't been getting much
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support. so when this businessman entered the race, i thought maybe he's good, he's a capitalist understands the need for limited government and free enterprise. i've met donald trump, i like the guy. he's fun, he speaks well. but then he said horrible things about immigration and ridiculous things about trade, and i remembered he's not a free market capitalist, he's a crony capitalist. he brags about paying politicians, using them to further his business needs. so i close tonight with just one example of this. there's a law. eminent domain that allows government to take your property, your property, to use it in the public interest. bret baier asked donald trump -- >> what do you think of eminent domain. >> i think eminent domain is wonderful. john: can be wonderful for development, building roads, railroads, the keystone pipeline.
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if government can't build around them, they can use force, take the land. it must be a last resort and politicians must pay the owner a fair price for the property. >> don't forget, eminent domain, they get a lot of money, and you need a house in a certain location because you're going to build a massive development that's going to employ thousands of people or a factory that without the house you can't build the factory. john: this little house? what was he referring to there? i assume it was vera coking's house, trump tried to grab her house to bulldoze it and build not a factory but expand his casino parking lot in atlantic city. vera didn't want to sell her house. trump got together with new jersey politicians and those politicians, cronies declared vera's home blighted. they ruled that trump could take vera's property and pay her a quarter-million dollars for it. but that wasn't a fair price. vera turned down a million
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dollars for her house. now she was the being forced to sell to trump for a fourth. that i told trump he was acting like a thug. you're bullying people out. >> excuse me. that's wrong. for you to use the word bully, john, is unfair. this is a government case, it's not donald trump. john: yes, it's donald trump you and cronies working together. >> for you to call them cronys is unfair. john: isn't that what's happening now? >> not at all. it's a sick assumption and jade for you to make it. john: yes, he's right. i'm jaded, watching bullies abuse people's property rights. lawyers help fight trump and political cronies, she won and appeals court told trump he couldn't take the property. turned out he didn't need all the parking lot space because his casino and others in atlantic city went bankrupt. trump revealed himself to be a
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bully, a threat to liberty. i won't vote for him. that's our show. see you next week. good night from new york. >> we'll have so much winning if i get elected you may get bored with wing. >> same-sex marriage is the law of the land in all 50 states. >> an historic climate agreement was reached by almost 200 countries. no agreement was reached on terrorism. what does this known for america. be ready to send your sons and daughters to another war in iraq. >> no, we have enough to worry about at home. >> race still plays a significant role in who gets ahead in america.


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