tv Risk and Reward With Deidre Bolton FOX Business February 17, 2016 5:00pm-6:01pm EST
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lawsuit, challenging this ad, claiming it is defamation, file the lawsuit. deirdre: we will see in gop presidential candidate donald trump responds. he is hosting a rally right now in walterborough, south carolina. this is "risk & reward." i'm deirdre bolton. we'll take you there live. >> he was all over the place yesterday, donald trump will not be, maybe we have a little surprise in store. we saw it right here in south carolina. new hampshire was so amazing. we had a big, big victory in new hampshire, amazing people. then we come down here, i said i think we have even bigger lead over here. and the people have been incredibly. mo matter where we go to speak, i know four years ago you had 200 people here for same kind of a thing for your front rusher. good frontrunner, good guy, did well. 400 people. 200 people. you have thousands of people here. we just appreciate it. i won't forget it, believe me.
i'm not going to forget it. [cheering] i'm not going to forget it. so, i hear that they're talking about trying to get a liberal judge in, a judge that does not like the second amendment, a judge that -- this is one of many, this is one of many, but a judge that wants to do a number on guns. we know how important it is. we'll not let it happen. it will not let it happen. if we get elected we know that we nine months, 10 months to go. we have to have republicans hold fast because i'm just hearing these little cracks, saying well, maybe if he appoints somebody maybe we can get along. not the way it is supposed to be. now it's possible that they will have their wish. if they win they will be having their choice. but if they don't win we'll start really taking back, we have three, four, five maybe supreme court judges this was not supposed to be one in question. this was a very sad circumstance that happened with, i mean really to me, it was very sad circumstance but now, we'll see
what happens. i will only tell you this. we are doing well. we have a really good chance to win. if we can win in south carolina we're going to go, we could very well-run the table. i don't know if you saw -- [cheers and applause] i guess a lot of you have you seen actually next week in nevada, it is going to be phenomenal. relationship there to the people. bush, bush is 1% in nevada. this guy, why doesn't he just give up, just go home? go home. go home to mom. got to go home to mommy. yeah, bush is only 1% in nevada. a couple of them are, at 10, 11, 12, i'm like 40 something, 48. [cheering] so i think we're going to do well. then we have sec, we'll have the sec which i think will be amazing. but really now is starting. new hampshire could not have been better. they gave us tremendous sendoff.
they started us on our way. we did well in iowa. some votes were stolen from ben carson which by the way was disgrace. what this guy cruz did with ben carson is absolute disgrace. what he did. it was theft. they come out with voter violation form which is a fraud as far as i'm concerned. what he did with that whole thing was a disgrace. so we're not going to let that stuff happen anymore. we're not -- we'll not let it happen. we're all watching. you're all watching. keep your eyes wide open. these politicians, this guy raises the bible yet he tells fibs, he tells lies and does this stuff to carson and does other things? very bad. politicians are bad people. boy, they are bad. would you believe it? so we're not going to let it happen. we're going to get in there and i just want to tell you, saturday, go out and vote because this is this is going te place that will make it.
all the pundits said i'm not running, that he is doing it for fun. i love this location. i could be someplace else right now? i could be someplace else right now i could be very happy. i am doing it, see all the hats in audience, make america great again. we'll make america so great. we are going to, we are going to win again. we don't win very much. you're very tough, smart people, you like to win right? this guy over here, you like to win. we don't win anymore. we used to win. we don't win anymore. we'll start winning again. we'll start winning again. so second amendment protected. common core, we're going to end common core. [cheering] we're bringing, we're bringing your education locally. it is going to be fabulous. i don't know if you know and you heard me say, we have the absolute worst, we spend, number one in the world on education, right? number one per pupil in the world.
there is no second place because we're so high, so much, you have china, you have norway, you have denmark, you have sweden, these countries are the best in terms of education. and they're on the list the best. number 30th in the top 30, we're number 30th. we're number one in cost. that is a little bit like what i'm doing. i'm least spent money -- you know i'm funding my own campaign, right? [cheering] so, i don't have a lot of the people coming to me, you know, drug companies, and all, because if you would see the kind of waste, fraud and corruption in the united states, a lot of it isn't really waste, fraud and corruption, the fact that people running against me, people in senate, people in congress, they have tremendous power because they have people he giving them unbelievable campaign contributions and their special interests and they do what those people want. that is one of the reason our budgets are out of whack, military is out of whack.
military orders equipment they don't even want and stuff they do want they don't get because the company that makes that equipment is like, you know, not politically ad depth and companies that really are make equipment we really want, it will change. i won't take money from these people. i don't give a damn. we'll do the right thing. [cheering] we'll do absolutely the right things. i tell you a little story. so the drug companies, we are the largest purchaser of drugs in the world, the united states. we, which makes a lot of sense i guess. we purchase more drugs, drugs to make you better. not the drugs that come over the southern border which we're going to end, okay? we're going to build a wall, yep. folks, by the way we'll build a wall. who will pay for the wall? >> mexico! >> you better believe it. we have a trade deficit with mexico of of 58 billion doll. these characters come up, politicians i'm running up against, you don't really think mexico will pay for the wall?
i said absolutely, 100%. how will you get mexico to pay? i don't want to go into it they won't understand it. they have no concept of business. they have no -- 150 billion we gave to iran, these people have no concept. we have have 58 billion doll trade deficit with mexico, okay? the wall will cost $12 billion. maybe less. if i build it, it will be taller, better and less. so you think of this, you think of this, how will you possibly do it? they make so much money. plus we give them subsidy. they make so much money from the united states, it one be one of the easy things. i don't know if you heard, one of the presidents or ex-presidents of mexico held a news conference. he said, we will never ever, ever, pay for the wall. and press called me, they said they will never pay for the wall. i said, who was it? calderon. very nice. good guy. he said, tell him the following. the wall just got 10 feet
higher. got 10 feet higher. [cheering] deirdre: donald trump you are seeing him there, at a campaign in walterboro, south carolina. he is going through a range of subjects if you like. saying jeb bush should go home to miss whom my. -- his mommy. donald trump will do well in south carolina. that he will perhaps run the table in nevada. talking about senator cruz, the fact that he in donald trump's view stole votes from dr. carson. politicians are bad people. he also went on to talk about the waste, fraud and corruption governed by special interests in washington, d.c. and how he is different candidate. so we will be monitoring that rally for further headlines. we will bring them to you. meantime i want to bring in former mccain campaign director ford o'connell. democratic strategist chris hahn. welcome to you both. ford, what do you make of the continuatino of trump being
combative versus jeb bush and certainly versus senator cruz? >> it plays right into his whole make america great again. his whole deal i will protect you the voter from d.c. i will protect you from establishment republicans. i will tell you who is fear and who will fix the situation. i think it is brilliant tv you want to know what? he is winning and probably win south carolina with it. deirdre: started talking about common core and say we will end common core, we'll bring education locally. he said the u.s. is spending the most out of any other country and we are 30th on the list as far as education results. chris, you just chimed in there, is that issue one of the make-or-break ones for south carolina? >> well, i think that it's a big issue in some primaries. whether it is make or break in south carolina i don't think so but i got to tell you, these rallies are very entertaining. donald trump is like a classic rock artist. gives people what they want every single time. the people are shouting his lines back at him. got this movement thing going on right now, that is really why he is winning.
some people like to say the guy is having fun on campaign trail. i think people who are supporting him are having fun too. that is why he is dangerous to the republican party and he might just be their nominee. deirdre: speaking of dangerous, ford, what is trump's achilles heel? you ran a campaign. you know, what would you be telling him hey, what would you look out for this. >> here is what trump should worry about. can he make the case trump is not friend of little guy. that he is not going to protect you. that he will will be a to do what he says he does and out for his ego and self-interest. the idea pierce the veil that he will protect you the little man from the establishment, from d.c., from the drug companies, from terrorists et cetera. is trump really out to help you or really out to help himself. that is the whole key. deirdre: i will ask you both to stay with me. we'll take a quick break. ford and chris back with me. apple's tim cook opposing a
federal judge's order to unlock the iphone used by one of the san bernanadino killers. we'll give you a few different angles on the story from tech to legal. we're back in a few minutes. ♪ thanks. ♪ [ male announcer ] fedex® has solutions to enable global commerce that can help your company grow steadily and quickly. great job. (mandarin) ♪
deirdre: security and privacy front and center as apple ceo tim cook is percently opposing a -- fiercely opposing federal judge's order to unlock the iphone used by one of the san bernanadino shooters. >> san bernanadino very important investigation to us, we still have one of the killer's phones we've not been able to open. it is two months now and we're still working it. deirdre: 14 people were killed in that attack in december. tim cook publishing a statement on their website. the u.s. bost asked us for
something we simply do not have, something we consider too dangerous to create. they have asked us to build a back door to the iphone. we can find no precedent for an american company being forced to expose its customers to a greater risk of attack. for years crip to its and -- crip to gifts have been warning against weaken encryption that will only hurt law-abiding and well meaning citizens who rely on companies likes aptell to encrypt their data. hackers will still encrypt with data available to them. welcome to you all. ben, i will start with you, tim cook is saying he can not provide this back door software to this particular iphone. do you think he is telling the truth? >> i do not. i've been watching today, because i'm certainly not a tech expert but i know enough to be dangerous. i think a lot of bloggers are going back and forth.
it comes down to software, firm wear, hardware of a phone. software you update every time you upgrade operating system on phone. firmware is something semipermanent. the reality what they're trying to breach right here is in the firmware that blocks or dumps our data after you try number of times with incorrect code. they could have interns sit there typing code for 50 years. deirdre: could put people on this? >> correct. everybody at fbi would probably pass away before we actually got to that code. so what they're trying to do is an able to get a back door into software, firmware to use a computer system to run codes to brick this thing. now i think that, what tim cookies not saying, you know, could apple, if on a case-by-case basis apple actually had phone in their hands, could they write a script, write the code for software and firmware to actually breach that and run this?
yes, absolutely. they have some pretty smart people at apple. i think they can figure out how to do it. deirdre: i would say so. liz, you've been reporting on this story all day. do we have to choose as citizens between privacy and security? >> that is the issue. what the government is saying that the terrorists in san bierne born massacre which injured 22 people, that they were hoarding bombs, they basically had a lot of military hardware in their garage and month 1/2 prior to the attack the icloud account attached to syed farook's phone went dark. during that period there is concern he was communicating with possibly other terrorists to harm even more people. and government is saying they only want his iphone. the iphone is owned by the san bernanadino public health department. deirdre: that's a great point, underline, underline, underline it. >> his employer is saying, yes, fbi you can access it. apple, we give you permission to access it. they are saying prior to 2014
apple was helping government to crack into iphones to catch suspects. they work with banks to do terrorism financing investigations. >> they certainly do. >> why shouldn't silicon valley playing ball? deirdre: picking up where liz left off, what is the legal issue? as liz point's out, it was not syed farook's personal cell phone. it was california municipality's property. this idea of fighting the court order on principle, i heard, i'm sure you did too, more than i did, tim cook said there is no precedent for a u.s. company being asked to hand over this kind of information or this kind of capability. >> i just don't buy it f these emails were at internet service provider, the internet service provider would say, here you go. if the evidence were in a hospital or sensitive medical record, the hospital would say here you are. the government is always balancing security and privacy. that is what the fourth amendment asks us to do. deirdre: do you feel like we're in a new world order now? >> i don't think so.
in 2014 it was not this way. as ben said very correctly no one is asking for right to crack every iphone all all time whenever they want. apple, you have to tell us how to unlock the phone so the nsa can hack away at your encryption if it wants to without erasing everything. apple made it if you have 10 incorrect attempts to get into the phone -- deirdre: tim cook said, hey, we're not going to do this and terrorists will still continue to communicate. >> of course terrorists will continue to communicate. you try to be one step ahead of the terrorists. terrorists communicate by email or texts. that doesn't mean you stop going after emails. doesn't mean you stop listening to phone calls, getting wiretaps with a court order. doesn't mean that. >> right. issue is apple and google built their brand reputation since 2014 on encryption on privacy. this is after the edward snowden controversy. deirdre: this is their brand. >> yeah. so, issues is, will apple be
required to give software to the government to act as a master key to unlock all devices. that is what apple's tim cook is saying. the government is saying no, no, we want access to this one iphone. deirdre: ben, you're in agreement obviously? >> i am. it is obviously a legal issue, but in my mind this isn't trying to overstep due process, right, like pre-crimes, trying to figure out -- deirdre: murder already happened. >> they're terrorists. >> we'll leave it there. ben collins, elizabeth mcdonald and phillip siegel. thank you very much. some pension funds, 401(k) plans, trading accounts, billionaire investor carl icahn cutting its stake in apple last year. the stock declined. this according to new egg regulatory filing. his new stake, $1.5 billion. some still exposure there.
tiger global picked up one million dollars of the stock recently. jared levy ask with me. apple down 20% in the past 12 months. more than the s&p's drop in that time. is apple a buy or a sell here? >> there is a lot to consider, the point is carl icahn has skin in the game at 1.5 billion. that is something to consider. apple's problem is fact it hasn't given us it's next big thing, next big source of revenue. it is peppering in the watch, peppering the i play. apple you can own up to $110 feel good about it. beyond 110, 115, all right based on past evaluation what is am i getting here? unless tim cook and company coming out rivetting or game changing like iphone was, i don't see a big case for apple going up over 115. buy it here.
sell it at 115. i think that is your smart money play. deirdre: jared levy, money manager. coming up after german refugee sex assault, a polish magazine causing outrage. it published a very controversial cover depicting islamic rape of europe. we'll talk about it. hillary clinton well-known for playing gender card in this election. >> i'm not just running because i would be the first woman president. bernie sanders is only person who i would think characterize me a woman running to be the first woman president as exemplifying establishment. enough is enough. we are still living with a double-standard, sometimes i talk soft. sometimes i get passionate and i get a little bit excited. i don't know any man who doesn't do the same thing. deirdre: some say she is now playing the race card calling republicans bigots. we'll play the entire clip for you. also there is a video going viral of a presidential
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17%. former campaign director is back with me as well as chris hahn. we were talking about donald trump's potential achilles heel. do you make anything of cruz getting a few points? >> i think it's a big deal because he's been leading for 3 or 4 months in the national polls. i think the sample skews more towards the older voter. donald trump has a hard-core of 25%. but unless this gets down to a two-person race, he may have a ceiling of 40%. and this poll falls in there at 26%. deirdre: senator cruz says he's
not afraid and they are going to show it more. >> mr. trump, you have been threatening frivolous lawsuits for your entire adult life. even in the annals of frivolous lawsuits, this takes the cake. donald, i encourage you, if you want to challenge a lawsuit claiming his ad is defamation, file a lawsuit. deirdre: we wanted to play that for people who were not up to speed as you are. what do you make of this? who is going to come out looking better? donald trump for attacking? senator cruz for attacking? >> at the end of the day donald trump would lose that lawsuit. there is a high standard for
defamation of public figures. there is no more protected speech than protected political speech. whether it weighs into the election, i don't know. he has been calling ted cruz a liar. that seems to be working in south carolina. take this poll out of play here, this "wall street journal" poll which is heavily weighted towards conservative republicans as opposed to some of the polls that had them slightly less favored. >> chris, we are dealing with politics, not reality. this is a powerful weapon for donald trump because it casts doubt in a voter's mind about ted cruz citizenship. >> this isn't a citizenship suit, this is about the
defamation suit. the citizenship suit would help donald trump because if you are a strict constructionist of the united states constitution which i am not, but ted cruz says he is. you cannot say ted cruz is a natural born citizen as our founders intended in 1787. deirdre: i want to play this ad so we are away from the citizenship issue back to the defamation suit. here is the ad that kicked
the off the fight. >> i'm capable of changing to anything i want to change to. >> that's for sure. will he ban partial-birth abortion. >> you would not ban it? >> no. planned parenthood serves a good function. >> hillary clinton. >> i think she does a good job and i like her.
i'm capable of changing to anything i want to change
to. >> don't give hip that chance. deirdre: there were a lot of people who said in the last debate that senator rubio actually did a good job. one website calling him the comeback kid, but with this lawsuit donald trump got everybody talk back about his campaign versus senator rubio. >> when donald trump dominate the news he become the beneficiary of the news cycle. how do you beat donald trump? the point was to say he's not a friend of the little guy. he talks about positions. people who support donald trump don't care about his positions. they care about whether he's going to help the little guy. deirdre: we are going to take a break. a polish magazine causing
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>> it's frightening in the sense there are companies with materials over there that they don't have secure. i think it should be said this material is our -- is r-192. they have 8-10 half lives. we are talking about that radio active material being active for two years. fit was stolen this year, there is a two-year mark this stuff could be dangerous. there is the ability they could use this as a dirty bomb. take normal explosives like tnt and put it inside of it. it's not a nuclear blast but it would disperse a lot of radioactive material that could deny an area, people wouldn't be able to go in for some time. deirdre: in the former ussr
there was nuclear term and attempts by terrorist groups to purchase it there. is there any way the u.s. government can know where these things end up? >> so much of that material went on to the black market when the former soviet union fell. particularly eas cesium. the buyers were looking for islamic fundamentalist buyers. i think working with intelligence services overseas is extremely key. do i think it will be possible for them to catch or find all the missing things? no, i don't, unfortunately. deirdre: secretary of state john kerry is meeting in hollywood
with studio chiefs trying to do a counter offensive with word and images and actual think john kerry tweeted out, great combo with studio excessives in l.a. it feels like we need a much stronger response. the p.r. work is important, but it's not more important than the work you are doing. >> it's hard to keep a straight face. the hollywood security council. i remember when we brought james taylor over to paris. do we have to counter a narrative? yes. deirdre: that's a high-ranking official to be spending time in l.a. >> if they wanted to counter the narrative, i could give you a laundry list of actions the
president has done or failed to do that does bolster the isis narrative that they have been reporting. deirdre: he will be rejoining me in just a minute. but there has been a slew or a big scandal with this cover of a magazine you are looking at right now after a range of assaults in germany. we are back with an expert who says the european refugee crisis is about to boil over. companies are track our health habits. gerri willis has a story you won't want to miss. , watery eyes and congestion. no other nasal allergy spray can say that. complete allergy relief or incomplete. let your eyes decide. flonase changes everything. i thione second it's there.day. then, woosh, it's gone.
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devoting its entire magazine to sexual assaults. in the larger context a tv report more was assaulted on air, a mother attacked in front of her young children for protecting an elderly lady. they the attacks were committed by syrian or iraqi refugees. what else your take on this magazine? is it stoking fear or is it a cautionary shot that everybody has to pay attention to? >> i think it line has been moved in this era of political correctness in what is stoking fear and what is kicking off a conversation. the facts of the matter are, this new year's eve there were 400. deirdre: women were molested,
raped, groped, and the german police couldn't keep up with it. >> we have over 100 new cases in five german cities of rape and assault since new year's eve. it goes beyond germany. we are seeing it in finland, germany, austria, find, sweden. deirdre: they are trying to give language class, cultural class, there was a boy raped in the german swimming pool area. the man said sit was a sexual emergency. now everyday citizens are at risk. >> you can't expect a million migrants coming from african and middle eastern countries to come into a european coupleture and suddenly adapt. these people aren't showing up
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deirdre: when we come back. teens beat and rob a decorated iraq veteran in the name of black lives matter. >> they asked me if i believe black lives mattered. i felt intimidated and felt they were trying to threaten me. because i want responding back to them they were calling me a racist. anything worth pursuing requires knowledge, hard work and a plan. at baird, we approach your wealth management strategy the same way to create a financial plan built to last from generation to generation.
i felt threatened and felt they were trying to intimidate me. because i wasn't responding back to them, they were calling me a racist. deirdre: a decorated iraqi vet was assaulted and robbed. marine was the inspiration for the no man left behind statue at several bases. he sustained several traumatic injuries, including a dangerous blow to the head. >> it brought back memories of the war. i got this sharp pain that goes straight down my face. i haven't slept too well at all since it happened. deirdre: this brutal attack comes days after police officers were shot in mississippi and maryland. rob, what is going none our country? >> as far as this particular case is concerned with this veteran, i spoke with
investigators from our d.c. robbery squad and they have not been able to corroborate this guys story. however, we do believe in law enforcement maybe this group of knuckleheads, a group of juveniles, maybe they were inspired by the black lives movement. maybe when the police officer was shot, they were inspired by break lives matter. we don't know for sure. but a lot of the rhetoric coming from members of the black lives matter movement is violent and hostile. yesterday i was in new york city. i attended that anti-goon say rally and there were members of the black lives matter movement that were there and they were mean and hostile even towards me, and i didn't say anything to them. some of the things we say today are being inspired by black lives matter.
deirdre: rob, come back, we have lots to talk about. pope francis visiting the i.s.-mexico border now. charles payne has the latest for you. charles: the market rally got a boost from the federal reserve. even though nobody is sure exactly what they said, it seems they are having second thoughts about the automatic rate hikes. i have got two experts that say it's going to happen. trump challenges the pope. and bernie is crushing it with democrats. first the race for the white house is getting intense. donald trump threatening to sue ted cruz and cruz said bring it on. >> you have been threatening frivolous lawsuits for your entire adult life. even in the