tv The Intelligence Report With Trish Regan FOX Business April 8, 2016 2:00pm-3:01pm EDT
>> all right. we have surrendered about half of the earlier games that we had. still not a bad day. trish regan to take you through that. >> we have lots of news to get you to. one of the most wanted men in custody today. this same guy, he may be that so-called man and wife that was seen with the two suicide bombers. anyway, more information coming into us. we will bring it all to you right now. i am trish regan. connected to the paris attacks. may also be the so-called man in the hat. the man in white seen in that terrorist video at the airport that came in.
just moments before those people were blown out. thirty-two individuals were killed in brussels. the suspect had been on the run. the surviving paris attack recentlyarrested i belgium authorities. is he the man that they need? donald trump battles a new campaign ad. new york values saying that they are american values. >> the values in new york city focus around money and the media >> i sell something that no place on earth could have handled more beautifully. trish: ted cruz's firing back. no way. well, maybe that is why he is third place in our state right now. if the kentucky derby racist? a sorority being forced to
cancel a kentucky derby party. because that is apparently racist. political correctness. i kid you not. president obama's war on this is heating up. just about to get a whole lot worse. lots to get to. first i want to get to breaking news. caught in belgium along with several others. two days after the paris attacks five months ago. this man has been on the loose ever since. more than likely to have been that man and a half. seen in the security footage they are. next to this to suit -- two suicide bombers.
why are they not cracking down sooner. i am getting breaking analysis right now. u.s. army colonel. good to see you guys. your reaction to this news that they may have a guy. a guy that was on that video. he may also be connected to the bombings. >> i think that that is good news and bad news. the good news is, they now have more than one. they can put them in separate rooms. maybe they will find out a lot more if they just have one bad guy. here is the thing that worries me. terror subjects have been nabbed. maybe they were planned two weeks from now. they get pushed up on the
timeline. maybe what we may see in the next several days is additional attacks. exactly what happened when the terrorist was taken. the attack had been planned. >> the risk that we take right now. you cannot let these guys continue unchecked. you need to ground all of them up as fast as you can. whoever is running the operations there in europe. probably going to slow a couple triggers here and distract people. hoping to get as much information training the information and going after some of the bad guys. trish: let me ask you, how do you get that information?
engaging in waterboarding tech meeks. a man who is willing to kill himself to divulge information. >> that is very difficult. i know how some countries have done it. certainly, we have warned to do waterboarding. unless you can play good cop that cop like katie suggests, he is someone that is willing to die for his cause. at the same time, there may be a niche in his armor or a kink in his armor. perhaps there can be a trade they are. >> is that what happens? a good cop bad cop.
they threatened family members. some intelligence. they decide. the cleaning lady does not matter. a lot of tech -- techniques being used. they are not captured alone. they have cell phones. there will be evidence. there will be computers. there will be hard drives. on the loose right now. connected to brussels. connect it to terrorists. dealing with as many as 5000.
5000. traveling to serious for isis training. how do you find every single one of them? >> they are probably networked. 500 plus. this is probably the thing that they have been trying to use. trying to attract all of these people down. i agree with kt. you harvest all the computers. all of the cell phone information aired where he was seen or not seen. where he was associated with. you build a map of information. eventually, they will pull the trigger again. >> thank you so much. ted cruz is not backing down
from bashing new york values. third place in our empire state. >> people across new york and across the country. knowing exactly what neighborhood values mean. they have been hammering this state. >> a few republicans here, too. those three words. donald trump is more than happy, as you can imagine, to split them off. >> everyone understands that the values in new york city focus around money and the media. >> i sell something that no place on earth could have handled more beautifully, more humanely than new york. trish: that is his new campaign
ad. it comes from our fox business debate. what he meant by new york values. he went right in for that attack. donald trump stood up for new york. stud up for how new yorkers came together in the days after 9/11. campaigning in the bronx. we love new york values. neighborhoods. great food and great people. it means everything. this is exactly where i would be heading. attacking new york values. you think about the economic generation this city and new york has given the rest of the
country. you think of the tragedy that we have been through here in new york. that does not seem to be a worthwhile line of attack. >> tough message to sell in new york. especially with the primary being less than two weeks away. trump at 53. i have to think that bruce realizes he will not close the gap in new york. this is not about the new york primary, per se. they think that that message may present made in. this will be moving forward in the gop primary. moving towards the convention. i think they will win most, if not all of the delegates in new york. it is a outlet now. cruz realizes that.
i have no chance. a better opportunity. it is -- is that the thinking? >> crushed in new york. maybe stopping them from getting some. 1237 delegates by june 7. including those contests. >> it is not easy. >> no, it is not easy. he has a great shot at taking all delegates. he will do extraordinarily well. >> rhode island. >> rhode island. connecticut. heis much, he only needs 450
delegates in order to go. maybe cruz gets three out in the far west. california new jersey and montana, winner take all. huge patch of delegates there. trish: can we get montana? some of these places may be more challenging. >> it will be hard for trump in montana. trish: does he need it? >> i think that he will need every delegate. even if he walked in, this would be a very interesting convention. the establishment is already making moves. trying to unseat the delegates out of south carolina. i think trump is actually going to have to be, exceed 1237 by
little bit to make sure. >> the rules. you get 1237. you are the nominee. >> i want to explore this a little bit. there is another 150 up for grabs. if he gets the 1222. if he gets 1237, you still do not think that he is the nominee? >> i do think that the establishment will pull out all the stuff. it will be house rules. they will put rules in place. >> i would not disagree. >> i would take ned one better. 1236. the republican party led by, in this case, scott walker and was confident.
not because he wanted cruz. he wants to make sure that paul ryan is the nominee. the speaker of the house carries the republican nomination. this is the house of cards. >> for whoever becomes the nominee. you will have so many angry donald trump supporters. >> we will see you in a little bit. we welcome back to trump and cruz and the democrats. the obama administration preparing a flory. getting as many new worlds as they possibly can. stuff them all in there. about to get a whole lot worse, folks. sorority under fire. forced to cancel an upcoming kentucky derby party. because, after this, they say that it is racist.
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the brussels airport that we have shown over and over and over again. this is all just coming into us now. they think that they have another one of these guys. the bad news is, there is a whole lot more of them out there. switching gears. brace yourself here. president obama is getting ready to unleash thousands and thousands of new regulations. affecting all businesses. somehow, one way or another. we will just go through some of them for you. one regulation will require food people to disclose how much food is added to a product. another is white overtime pay for white-collar workers. you are a salary worker, but you get paid overtime. fools calling for even more energy standards.
you know what, they will cost you. they will cost taxpayers and they will kill jobs. here to tell you why it is not good is senior fellow. here we go again. love. love. love regulation. he thinks he can regulate his way to prosperity. what is wrong with what he is trying to do? >> the more red tape we put on the economy, the harder it is. i could give you lots of boring numbers. 8.8 billion hours of time spent on regulations every year. 1.75 trillion with cost. unless you are a small business owner or you work in the compliance department, it may not mean anything to you. unimaginative every single week you have to file your taxes and you do not have turbo taxes or
something like act? an environment where the government keeps imposing all of these regulations. the time, the money, the energy. we are turning ourselves into greece in more ways than one. >> in greece, they do not actually fill out all of the paperwork. then the taxes do not get paid. the regulation is they there, but it is not actually adhered to. you slip a couple things under the counter. what do you know, you do not have to fill out those forms. you are right. we do not want to go to that extreme. people will say i will find a workaround or maybe i go to canada where it may even be more hostility. >> let me give an example of that. bernie sanders loves talking
about places like denmark and sweden. denmark and sweden are much more free market in terms of regulation. they have the high taxes and although welfare programs. their economies are remarkably deregulated. businesses are free to act. trish: you are not turning into a socialist on me, are you? bernie sanders. a boring socialist. denmark and sweden. >> i want to copy what works around the world. if you will allow me, hong kong's slow simple flat tax. i will payed denmark's open economy. i will pick the public her in singapore. we could learn from the rest of the world. the problem is, our politicians in washington seem to want to pick the worst parts.
trish: they want more and more government so they can keep their crony friends employed. >> one example is, obama, we talked about his new poirier of regulations. there will be almost zero cost benefit analysis. we get all the cost. there is little benefit. at the end of the day, everything cost more and we get you her jobs. >> yikes. coming up. the kentucky derby races. apparently, a sorority was forced to cancel its viewing party. it is a bunch of girls in these big cats. sipping mint juleps. somehow they say it is racist. because we are living in a world where the police are just totally out of control.
trish: a sorority at dartmouth college in my home state of new hampshire is canceling its annual kentucky derby party because there's been so much outrage over the theme of the party. the theme, you know, kentucky derby. ing big hats, sun dresses for the girls, blazers, loafers for the guys. hey, you know, maybe i'm naive, but, look, doesn't seem offensive to me. but it does to some. protesters say it is racist! it recreates the civil war south atmosphere. gosh, i hadn't thought of that. fox news contributor katherine times and fox news radio host todd sykes join me with more. [laughter] look, you just think a bunch of girls wearing nice hats, you know, sipping, what is it, mint juleps that they have at the derby? >> right. trish: and by the way, kind of trying to pretend they're british because i think of the horse races and ascot races and
"my fair lady," and it feels like our american version of trying to recreate that. >> yeah. trish: where are they getting this whole -- >> it's not really my jam, the kentucky derby type of thing overall, but it's clearly this sorority's jam. and it's a private party. they should just be able to do it. i wrote about this in national review, and the whole larger issue is one of the sorority members said we obviously have to cancel something if anyone is upset by it. that's the wrong attitude. trish: wow. >> obviously? no, lady, you're ridiculous. one person being upset means you have to can el everything? trish: the sorority also said, todd, it invokes these feelings of the civil war south. you know, last i checked -- and actually, i did check right before i came on the air -- the civil war ended ten years before the kentucky kerby even started. [laughter] -- >> yes, that's right, trish. so that means they're also stupid. [laughter] lord love these sorority girls.
you know, this is a highfalutin thing -- >> these are dartmouth sorority girls, by the way, mind you. >> yes, ivy league. [laughter] again, this is why i support people who get a kudzu education, there's a bit more common sense involved. look, i think they've been drinking too many mint juleps, with you, to be honest with you, the ladies of capita delta. the kentucky derby started ten years after the civil war during reconstruction. look, this goes beyond that. they actually accused these black lives matters protesters in 2015 accused the sorority girls of hosting an event that hearkened back to the antebellum south. and they said the kentucky derby reminded them of genocide. well, i checked the archives of the new york times, trish, and i could not find any ethnic cleansing going on there under the -- >> but they said it gave them the pre-civil war feelings, it invoked a memory, so all that really matter are feelings. trish: i have some nudes for all of them. -- news for all of
them. really and truly, i know this. >> it's true. trish: i mean, you go to a horse race, you put on your fancy hat, it's just about the hat. >> then what would they blog about? [laughter] trush trish see? okay. remember this gap ad that we showed you the other day, the one that so many people found as racist because they thought the little african-american girl there was being used as a prop, as a piece of furniture? well, now gap is apologizing and has removed the ad. think they should apologize for this ad from last year where the african-american girl leans on the white girl? no, i don't think so. and, by the way, we also learned that the two little girls in this year's ad were sisters. they're both adopted. one's white, one's black, but they're adopted sisters. can you imagine, imagine the uproar that's happening at the ad agency, kat, that created
this ad? probably someone's losing their job over this -- >> right. and this keeps happening because gap apologized. that's what people do. one person's upset just like these student is the and just like in this case the automatic reaction is to apologize. gap has to know this is ridiculous. these ads go through channel after channel after channel without anybody suggesting it's racist because it's. no all it takes is one person on the internet, oh, this is offensive. and the next thing you know, they have to apologize which encourages more people to make these ridiculous statements. trish: todd, it's like we're going to have our hands tied. how are you going to live your life as a normal person in this kind of environment? >> well, it's true. gap doesn't make clothes in my size, so i shop down at the walmart, and we've got our own issues down there. these days truth is irrelevant. it really doesn't matter. everything's always about race and privilege and, again, it's this kind of society we live in
now where it really is, it's unfortunate, to be perfectly honest with you. and thank goodness for fox business that we're able to expose this blatant hypocrisy that's out there. trish: yeah. well, we do, we will, we'll continue doing it, and i'm going to rely on you guys as well for all your help. thank you so much. good to see you guys, kat and todd. all right, coming up, bill clinton getting it into with black lives matters protesters while campaigning for his wife. the race for the democratic nominee is getting pretty ugly and, boy, has the democratic party changed its tune since bill clinton was president. and i say, you know what? not for the better. we're on that right after this. ♪ ♪ at ally bank, no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like grandkids equals free tech support. oh, look at you, so great to see you! none of this works. come on in.
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communities and led to overincarceration. one protester even blasted hillary clinton for calling african-american teenage gang leaders super-predators that need to be brought to heel back in the '90s. bill clinton defended her saying, look, these were bad guys. they were hurting the very lives that you're trying to protect. but somehow people were mad at that too? listen. >> i don't know how you would characterize the gang leaders who got 13-year-old kids hopped up on crack and sent 'em out onto the street to murder other african-american children. maybe you thought they were good citizens. she didn't. trish: so, of course, this happens. you'veot all the liberal media coming out against bill clinton, in favor of black lives matter. i mean, it was happening on msnbc last night.
and then the liberal magazine is going after the former president writing that, quote: bill clinton needs to go away. why his presidency has become a political liability. back with analysis, democratic strategist mary ann march and ned brian. ned, are you going to defend bill clinton here, and if so, do you find this interesting, this turn of events that you've got to defend bill clinton against black lives matter? >> this is a very strange world we live in, and when i find myself actually agreeing with bill clinton on a very, very rare case in which i do. but, you know, the thing that's interesting is bill clinton desperately wants to be 1992, and welcome to 2016, you know? the party of the '90s that was the party of clinton is no longer the party of clinton. it is definitely the ground has shifted underneath the chintons. it has gone -- clintons. it has gone to the left. this is now the party of obama. you have an avowed socialist who has won seven of the last eight
states who's raising $40 million a month. and, you know, i think the clintons are realizing this game has changed. this is not maybe the coronation we'd hoped for. this is going to be a bit more of a tough struggle than we thought, and guess what? we haven't even started to get into the e-mails and the private server becoming as big an issue as i think they could become in the next weeks and months. trish: let's stick to the story at hand here, and that's bill clinton, and, you know, the liberal media now thinking that he's a liability for her, mary ann marsh? >> right. trish: has the party become so fragmented and so taken hostage by movements like black lives matter that they can't see the forest for the trees? >> well, let's look at the facts here. african-american voters are turning out in percentages higher for hillary clinton than they did for barack obama in 2008. that tells you everything. so not every individual of every group is going to agree with everybody. trish: right, right. but -- hang on. let me jump in. i agree, and i think that she
has done very well, we saw that in the south, with the black vote. but this is politics. anything can change. and it seems to be that some members of the liberal media think that her husband now -- who i think would be, well, maybe not entirely an asset, but on some issues an asset -- is now a liability. would you agree with that? does he need to back away -- >> no. trish: -- because the black lives matter people are just not going to like him? >> no -- >> i actually do think he'll be a liability. trish happening on a second. this is to mary ann. >> the media, like voters are not molithic either. i think many people in this country, especially prims, long -- african-americans, long for the days of the 1990s where they had the lowest unemployment rate ever in history, and everybody's incomes went up. as you look at income right now, median income in this country is only at 1995 levels. they were under bill clinton. so anyone will take that back any day. did bill clinton this afternoon say -- trish: you know, look, i don't
think -- i think that's a fair thing to say when you say, maybe, did he put us in a situation that was better. look at the economy back then, and you had a phenomenon going on that we haven't seen since then, and it was a bit of a structural change in the economy. it was the onset of the internet, and the internet really did change everything and created tremendous wealth. a lot of people lost wealth, but overall it created a lot of economic prosperity and created a lot of jobs, and so that's why when you look back on wages, when you look back on unemployment and you say, ah, it was clinton, it actually really wasn't clinton. it was actually really internet. [laughter] but anyway, back to whether or not he's going to be a liability, you know are, what's the conservative side of things right now? >> you know, right now, i mean, i'm just an amused bystander watching this take place because, you know, everybody's wanting to focus on a wit of a soap opera that the gop primary is. well, pull up your seats and watch what's going to happen over the next few weeks and months with the clintons versus
sanders and all these different dynamics. i think it's going to be very interesting as you move towards the democrat convention what's going to actually happen on the convention floor, what's going to eventually happen with the super delegates. is bernie going to keep on winning states. this is not a coronation. this is not going to be a coronation. >> actually, i mean, ned's wishful thinking going on just like donald trump when you look at the math. the math doesn't lie -- trish: wait, wait, mary ann, you just said that donald trump could win it. you just said that you thought donald trump would get to 1237. >> yes, he will, and hillary clinton has that lead in delegates too. okay? no one can catch hillary clinton or donald trump. those are the facts. trish: i'm going to go out on a limb and say we can all agree there will be a lot of drama, no matter what, on both sides. coming up, pope francis calling for priests to welcome single parents, gay people, unmarried people into the church, and he wants to make it
a more welcome place for people of faith. he also wants to allow divorced couples to be able to have a path towards taking communion. coming up next, my intel on why we're seeing some progress, but it's not enough. all i wanted when i was a little girl -- [laughter] i kid you not, was to be a priest. [laughter] we're going to talk about it right after this
markets, we're up 53 points as we get ready to head into the weekend. a little bit of a boost going on. we are off the highs of the session because of oil. oil surging after the federal reserve chair, janet yellen, expressed a little bit of optimism in the u.s. economy, said it could be on track for more rate hikes. changes every day. prices are also jumping on hopes that global producers will agree to cap their output. and we talked about gap apologizing for its ad earlier. well, now there's more bad news for the retailer. the stock's tanking after it reported pretty disappointing march sales. okay, we're going to be right back with my intel on why the pope's new proclamation is something, but it still hasn't gone far enough. we'll see you here.
trish: all right, news today that pope francis issued a broad proclamation titled the joy of love, and in it he calls for priests to welcome single parents, gay people and unmarrieded/straight people living together into the church. he also hints there may be a path for divorced people to take communion without annulment, a good thing really because, i mean, if you think about annulment, if there are children involved, what does that say to
the kids if their parents have that marriage annulled as though it never existed? it delegitimizes the children themselves. you know, there are a lot of things about the catholic church that need to be fixed, and a lot of things in other religions that they could probably borrow from. i mean, in the protestant religion women can become rev recommends, something that -- reverends, something that i think catholicism should look at. i can remember when i was a little kid and the priest came to our classroom when i was about 5 years old, and they went around the class and said what do you want to be when you grow up? and they got to me, and i looked at him -- now, keep in mind i had to go to lots and lots of church because it's catholic school, and i always thought this is so boring, i'd much rather be up there on the stage talking to everyone rather than listening. so they got to me and i said, i want to be a priest x. he looked at me, and he laughed, and he laughed, and he said, you know, trish, that's very sweet. thank you.
you can be a nun. and i went home to my mom that afternoon, and i said i don't understand, why can't i be a priest? and she didn't have an answer for me. so i think catholicism is taking some steps in the right direction, but they can do more, and maybe they will. all right, coming up, is ted cruz's tax plan his key, his only key to winning the new republican nomination? why my new guest, next guest, says it's the best idea he's heard in the entire political season. that's next. ♪ ♪ ram trucks are reaching new heights when it comes to capability and efficiency. the ram heavy duty is the most capable full-sized pickup on the road today. and, the ram 1500 is the most fuel-efficient, full-size pickup. ever. so what does that mean? it means ram trucks give you the best of both worlds.
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that i know you care about, taxes. this as a new report shows we as americans pay more in taxes than we do in food, clothing and housing combined. my next guest says there's one candidate who can solve this problem, and he's looking to ted cruz. he says ted cruz's tax plan could pave his path to victory. deroy murdoch from the hoover institution joins me now with more. >> good to be with you. trish: okay. so let's talk about the principles of the plan. first of all, he's talking about a 10% flat tax on everyone's income right across the board. >> yep. trish: i like the sound of that. >> it's a great idea. i mean, we've got seven tax rates now, so it would be collapsed down to just one at 10%, very, very low. and the simplicity of being able to put this on a postcard with 14 lines for regular taxpayers. so we have a much lower tax rate, a lot of simplicity, and i think it'll spur economic growth.
trish: does everybody pay the 10% even if you're only making a few thousand dollars a year? >> everybody has to pay the tax, but everyone would get a personal exemption of $10,000, $4,000 personal -- i mean, first -- trish: the reality is the liberals are just going to have a field day with this, and you know why? they're going to say that you are punishing people that don't earn a lot of money because, you know, 10% of, you know, a billionaire's net worth or income, rather i should say, is a whole lot less meaningful to him than, say, 10% of a mcdonald's worker. >> you could say that, but what you also see happen with people who make a billion dollars is they've got all these loopholes -- trish: okay, let's not use a billion. >> even a millionaire, let's say. trish: 100 or $200,000 a year, if you're making $40,000 a year, that's a bigger overall nut for
you because the cost of living hasn't changed. >> i think the benefits would be several fold. one is the fairness. everybody's going to end up paying something. you're not going to have people making a lot of money and not paying taxes -- trish: the left is going to say the rich aren't paying their fair share. >> everyone will pay the same fair share, number one. number go, the benefit if you are low income is if you actually have an opportunity to get job offers, i think there's a lot of fairness and attraction in being able to have an economy where people can prosper versus one that's just stagnant. flat wages throughout the entire -- trish: it's a nice thing to say -- [inaudible conversations] you're never ever going to be able to get this through, 10% for every americans. >> i disagree with that. i think it is exciting, different, i think there'll be a groundswell of support for it. what often doesn't work is a modest, tiny tax cut that doesn't get anyone excited except the lobbyists. this is big enough that i think a lot of people come out for it.
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. trish: all right. finally this hour, i got good news. suki is back. one of the big stars in hollywood, melissa mccarthy announcing after a lot of back and fork, she's joining the revival of one of my most favorite shows ever. the gilmore girls. >> we could not get those schedules to work, and there was a whole thing and i was going to be out of the country and literally about an hour and a half ago we figured out i'm going to go back and do it, and i'm so excited. [cheers and applause] >> and they're going to be amazing. trish: mccarthy played best friendsuki to loreli on the show. all the shows are scheduled to premiere on netflix this year. if you haven't seen the gilmore girls, it's a sweet show.
one of my favorites. i have the entire cd collection, believe it or not. anyway, the conversation doesn't end here, you can head to my facebook page and twitter account, let me know what you thought of today's show, whether you're a gilmore girl fan, too. have a terrific weekend. liz, over to you. liz: thank you very much, trish. it's friday! crude oil surging, so the markets surge. that trade is back on but don't log off your computer just yet. the dow giving up 100 points of earlier gains, backup 37 points as the worst week since february comes to a close. will the ferma bears beat out the bulls? stick with me. the bulls have not given up just yet. none of the presidential candidates are ready to give up on the empire state, hillary clinton speaking live in buffalo at this moment at the pierce transportation and aerospace museum. this as a former senator from new york backing off her