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proceeded to hand him a $136 citation for violating the hov lane. $136. strange amount of money. >> it's one of the rules. i love the initiative. >> next time use a blowup doll. [laughter] >> that does it for us. here's "risk & reward." liz: breaking news, in a development with major foreign policy implications that will reverbiate around the world, congress has rejected president obama's veto of the 9/11 bill. he's been overridden for the first time in presidency, now families can sue saudi arabia for its role in the 9/11 attacks. this is "risk & reward," i'm elizabeth macdonald in for deirdre bolton. first, back to the override. 15 of the 19hijackers on september 11th were saudi citizens, now 9/11 victims' families can sue saudi arabia for any role in the plot. critics say this is
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embarrassing for the white house, and the white house has fallen on the wrong side of the issue for america. the white house press secretary lashing out at the senate for sweeping rejection of president obama's veto saying, quote -- former speaker of the house newt gingrich joins me now. nice to see you, mr. gingrich. >> good to be with you. liz: what do you think of the sweeping bipartisan override of president obama's veto? >> look, i think so many american citizens are sick and tired of being told that we have to pay royalties to iran, we have to appease the terrorists, we have to pay ransom to get americans back. they look at all this and look at the clear implications of saudi support, saudi support both in the direct sense of money that pours out of saudi arabia into radical mosques and madrassas around the world, the
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reality of how many saudis were involved in 9/11, and i think, yeah, i'd like to see american citizens to get even and a reflection of the growing deep distrust the american people have for their own government, the sense that the u.s. government doesn't protect me, it protects the iranians, it doesn't protect me, it protects the saudis, and i think that political pressure was brought to bear and members are going back home for election in a few weeks said you know, i don't think i'm going to try to defend saudi arabia and other countries that sustain terrorism. i think i'll vote with the american people. that's the heart of it. liz: to your point, the censored, 28 or 29 pages, heavily redacted and censored. one of the memos said there is incontrovertible evidence there is support for the terrorists inside the saudi government. there was connection to officials in the saudi government. the question is have we just put foreign policy in the hands of trial lawyers.
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are we in any way exposing military and our defense officials and you know, our good guys to a flood of lawsuits. >> well, we may be, and most countries sign agreements. this is a big fight because the obama administration failed to get an extension of the agreement protecting american troops and that was ostensibly the reason for pulling them out. you will notice today they're sending 600 more back. i don't think they have agreement on protecting american troops from lawsuits or from criminal charges. so it's kind of strange that we're back to putting boots. this is clearly by the way, boots on ground, baloney to say anything else. i think this is -- this vote and this bill is one more indication of how totally fed up the american people are with washington and bureaucracies that lie to them, fail to protect them, you will see a lot more of this stuff in four or five years.
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liz: yeah, we're seeing the polls, mr. gingrich. folks are saying we pay for their salaries to do things like this to mislead us and make policies that ruin the u.s. economy, but now mr. gingrich, i want your thoughts on this, saudi arabia possibly threatening to sell off hundreds of thousands of dollars of american assets. >> fine. liz: and avoid them being seized in court settlements. what do you think? >> fine, fine. my attitude to the saudis is you are a medieval kingdom with 17,000 members of the royal family. you have been protected for well over a half century by the united states. if you think you're going to do better in the neighborhood of iran without our protection, be my guest. it's going to be a long, painful experience. the saudis always run a bluff, and now that fracking has opened up american energy and you have a candidate like donald trump in favor of american energy independence. the saudis don't have much maneuvering room to threaten us.
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we protect them, how come they're threatening us. liz: good point, they're in proxy wars in yemen and syria. last night mainstream media celebrating hillary clinton's win. >> trump, upset about his mic. upset about some of the questions. will he do the next two debates? and hillary clinton today clearly relieved. >> today in north carolina, a victory lap for hillary clinton. >> like a player going back to watch game film. clinton was eager to live the debate. top democrats did a victory lap as trump warned he'll be tougher in round two. >> trump gave hillary clinton's campaign a huge gift by acting like a misogygistic bully last night. >> the trump campaign is saying clinton was the real loser last night. liz: mr. gingrich, i read your column that you wrote and sounds like you are fed up. you are now calling the media the intellectual yet idiot class. explain that. >> well, first of all, that's a
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phrase from the man who wrote the black swan, a famous scholar and he said, look, we have more and more people who can take tests and write essays and don't been the real world. he described them as intellectual yet idiot class, why the government and universities don't work. it's an accurate thing. you had a tremendous effort by the elite media. first of all, the debate itself, lester holt was two to one against trump, so trump is being double teamed for much of the debate. second, hillary had a major job to do. she had to prove donald trump was disqualified to be president. she didn't, and therefore, strategically she lost. was she a better debater than trump? sure, she's had 46 years, not 30, 46 years in politics dating back to joe lieberman's race for state senate in connecticut. she is a lawyer trained at yale. spent her entire time trained
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with words not deeds. trump is a businessman, if you score the debate on glibness, she wins, score the debate on strategy, donald trump won decisivelying and he took a big step closer to becoming president. liz: to your theme of the americans being fed up in the column, you said mr. trump speaks bluntly, clearly, he's saying things that most americans believe are going wrong in this country, right? >> right, and hillary's problem is she is the problem. she personifies all of these years of trying to run life from washington. all of the red tape. all the policies that don't work, and frankly, much of the news media is her, they don't just support her, they are her. they identify with her, they are terrified of donald trump because he will change their world, and i thought there was one tv channel that had nine people on a panel. every one of whom was anti-trump, and then you go out and do a poll of their viewers
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who just had an hour of anti-trump, and guess what? they're moved by it. but the country at large captured best by selena zito who went to a blue collar democrat bar in western pennsylvania and said these are clinton voters who said i'm for donald trump. she ain't bill clinton, she's a left-wing radical. a column i recommend to everybody, selena zito absolutely captured what's happening outside of the bubble in washington and new york. liz: thank you, newt gingrich appreciate your time and insights. >> thank you. liz: an overwhelming majority, both houses of congress overrode president obama's veto on the 9/11 bill, that will now let 9/11 victims' families sue saudi arabia. joining me now former democrat ohio congressman dennis kucinich. thank you for joining us tonight, sir. this is the first override of president obama's basically his term, why were so many in his own democrat party against his
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veto? they overrode him? >> everyone who remembers 9/11, particularly those who served in congress as i did knows that we owe the victims' families every bit of support we can provide to them including giving them the ability to sue anyone who may be connected with 9/11, planning or execution, and that's what congress did. i would have voted yes if i had been voting today, and i think that it's the right move. liz: do you think this opens up the u.s. to lawsuits, though? >> well, you know, the u.s. could always be sued, and our best defense is the truth, as is the best defense of the 9/11 families. the truth. and they should have their day in court. you have to keep in mind that we're dealing with saudi arabia here who's at this point, major export is jihadiism. and the major import is u.s. arms. the u.s. over the obama
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administration period has sold $110 billion in arms to the saudis, who are involved not only in yemen but in syria in trying knock off this government. so we have some serious questions to raise with our relationship with saudi arabia and, of course, until we straighten out this thing about 9/11, it's very difficult. furthermore, how much better america would be if we pursued legal action against the saudis back in 2001, instead of military action against iraq which had nothing to do with 9/11. liz: a fair point. switching gears. donald trump says he held back at the debate, but at a florida rally last night, mr. trump brought back one of his famous phrases, crooked hillary. roll tape. >> last night was very exciting and almost every single poll had us winning the debate
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against crooked hillary clinton. she is as crooked as they can. you know what? crooked hillary will be worse! she's going to be worse, and we're going to get rid of crooked, we're going to get rid of that crooked woman. don't vote for crooked hillary. put it in your head. crooked hillary. another crooked hillary lie. she said she sent or received nothing marked classified. a total lie! >> donald trump now unleashed, bringing back crooked hillary lines, do you think it gets the undecided voters in his camp? >> i don't know, i'll tell you i've never seen an election like this, the level of vituperation and disparagment is not worthy of the office of the presidency. i would hope that the exchanges that happen between mr. trump and mrs. clinton are more elevated. liz: all right, thank you, congressman dennis kucinich,
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appreciate your time. editorial note, in reference to the josh earnest quote, the white house press secretary earlier saying the worst veto override since 1983. in 1983, the senate overrode president reagan's veto of a land bill to give a few acres to six retired couples to pay for it. it was government property because of a survey error. we wanted to give that you point of history. not just yoga e-mails, fbi documents show hillary clinton deleted nearly 1,000 e-mails with david petraeus in her personal batch. and that story was deep sixed on a friday night when people were looking forward to the debate. we've got judge andrew napolitano here to weigh in. that's next, don't go away.
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. >> i chose not to keep my private, personal e-mails. e-mails about planning chelsea's wedding or my mother's funeral arrangements, condolence notes to friends, as well as yoga routines. liz: well, the fbi latest document dump showing other eyes, almost a thousand deleted e-mails, exchanges between hillary clinton and then-leader, the head of u.s. central command eventually director of the cia, david petraeus, someone clinton would have had a clear working relationship with, emphasis on working, during stint as secretary of state. i'd like to bring in fox news senior judicial analyst, judge napolitano. he's a genius on this. what's the import of this. >> the bitter irony is general petraeus was prosecuted for sharing secret materials with a person in his home, who also had a secret clearance, not
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over the internet. the significance of this is that mrs. clinton, again, has been revealed as not telling the truth when she said she returned all of her work related e-mails. remember she leaves the secretary of state's office and has all of her e-mails with her. the department of state has none of them. so when she says she returned her work-related e-mails, she forgot the thousand e-mails with general petraeus that she deleted. the big question is why would she delete them? liz: why? >> well, she obviously was engaged in communication she didn't want us to know about, whether it was her secret war in libya, which the president and the house and senate intelligence committees but not the rest of the congress approved of, or whether it was her shenanigans with the clinton foundation. hard to believe general petraeus would be involved in that. this is a bit of a mystery what's in there. liz: this is all mishandling classified information. isn't that still a felony?
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>> it's a felony for which the fbi, not the d.o.j., because senior d.o.j. management was taken out of picture by the attorney general because of her staged meeting with mrs. clinton's husband, the fbi decided not to prosecute. another story, because he was grilled, the fbi director for four hours by the house judiciary committee over that decision. liz: you mentioned general david petraeus sharing confidential information with his biographer and forced to resign in disgrace. ed snowden wanted for treason overseas, also people in the military have been in trouble for this. i still don't understand, what are we missing here? >> we're missing the content of her communications with general petraeus which belongs to the government. so by deleting it, she destroyed government property. another potential crime for which she will not be indicted.
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liz: so this is all caught up in the decision not to indict, right? covered by that? >> i'm sure director comey is aware of these even though it wasn't discussed publicly. >> you mentioned james comey, grilled in the hot seat, number of clinton staffers granted immunity in the private e-mail scandal. take a listen. >> you were granting, handing out like candy, according to some, immunity. what concerns me director is when you have five immunity agreements and no prosecution. when you are allowing witnesses who happen to be lawyers, who happening to targets to sit in on an interview, that is not the fbi that i used to work with. >> i don't think anybody was given transactional immunity. >> really? you gave immunity from destruction to both of those attorneys, not just turning the documents over, specifically destruction. >> when i was at the department
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of justice, your award for lying was 18,000 charge or potential obstruction of justice charge, it wasn't immunity. >> depends where you're going with the investigation. low level guy and trying to move up in the chain, you might think about it differently. >> you lied to an fbi agent, you don't think that's important? liz: five of clinton's closest aides granted immunity in the e-mail case by the department of justice, not the fbi. republican members of the house say they did want serious answers. judge, i thought you would get something back in return for immunity. department of justice isn't getting anything in return for immunity? >> little basics, nobody got immunity. nobody. they got promises not to be prosecuted. only a judge can sign an order of immunity, that's when a grand jury is waiting to hear testimony or trial judge waiting to hear testimony. neither is the case here. ordinarily you would give immunity or promise not to
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prosecute in return for substantial evidence to help you prosecute. in this case, there was no prosecution, and the decision not to prosecute was made from the beginning of the investigation, not at the end, because if they were going to prosecute mrs. clinton or conduct a real investigation instead of a shabby one, they would have had a grand jury there to issue subpoenas. no grand jury, no subpoenas. no search warrant, no d.o.j. supervision, entirely in the hands of fbi which has been told by the west wing exonerate her, don't prosecute her. liz: this deal with the five, does this mean congress can't investigate them or any other investigate body can't probe these five individuals? >> it does not. it means only that the evidence that they surrendered, in the case of cheryl mills, the contents of her laptop cannot be used against them in any prosecution, doesn't mean they're immune from prosecution, it means that whatever they surrendered in return for the promise not to prosecute can't be used against them. liz: somebody can still
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investigate these five still. >> a subsequent justice department could, the statute of limitations is five years. liz: got it. thank you, judge napolitano. terrific stuff. fbi director comey defending hillary clinton's investigation today saying don't call the fbi weasels. that's a direct quote. we've got former fbi assistant director critical of comey's decision not to recommend indicting hillary clinton. he's here to react. that's next.
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is when you have five immunity agreements and no prosecution, when you are allowing witnesses who happen to be lawyers, who happening to targets, to sit in on an interview, that is not the fbi that i used to work with. >> i hope someday when this political craziness is over, you will look back again on this because this is the fbi you know and love. this was done by pros in the right way. that's the part i have no patience for. liz: we've got former fbi assistant director jim kallstrom. he has fought so hard to protect this country, and he's been critical of mr. comey's decision not to basically recommend an indictment is or prosecution of hillary clinton. he joins me via phone. sir, is that the fbi you know and love? >> hi, liz, you know, i think it really is the fbi. people are criticizing director comey, they're not criticizing all the great agents that work for the fbi, they're criticizing him and hierarchy
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for running a -- i don't know, i can't even explain just looking at all the press on this case. i do not understand why they conducted the investigation they conducted. it's out of control when. do you round up all of the other co-conspirators and give them immunity? i don't believe that's happened in my lifetime. every time he talk, he gets himself in deeper and deeper trouble, and now the second release on a friday afternoon of major information, it is outrageous. fbi should not be in that game. liz: what do you think is happening behind the scenes at the fbi? >> well, you know, i think we're going to see a lot more of the facts come out over the course of the next few months, that's my prediction. i think it's a boiling cauldron in the fbi quite frankly, and i think, just my opinion, i have no inside information on this. i have been contacted by literally hundreds and hundreds
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of people about this case, a lot of which are retired agents and a few on the job that weren't part of this investigation, but so upset about the fact whether he's tried or not, you know, i used to think he was a great guy, i recommended to george pataki he be the u.s. attorney in new york. i don't get joy out of saying the things i'm saying, what he's done is absolutely contrary to how the fbi operates. and i'm sure the agents involved in this thing feel they've been stabbed in the back. liz: so setup of mishandling of information, do you think there is political pressure put on mr. comey? >> well, unless somebody has come down from the -- the martians have come down and got in his head, i don't understand why he would be doing what he's doing. since when, when the congress sends a letter to someone, a subpoena and a letter identifying them not to destroy
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evidence, and after the fact, they summarily destroy all this evidence, that is obstruction of justice. that is a federal felony, and that's been conducted by numerous people. when do you have people who are potential co-conspirators in the interview with the main conspirator? when does that ever happen? and when do they call all the shots? i think it's an outrageous series of events that's taken place here. liz: you're talking about cheryl mills who represented mrs. clinton in speaking with the fbi, and you know, it wasn't recorded, just a written transcript and notes of what happened. >> well, on that point -- i've been criticized the same by people. on that point, normally people are not recorded unless they're arrest, but this is the woman running for president of the united states. wouldn't it be important for the public to know if they're going vote for this person that she refused to answer this
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question or forgot the information 52 times or 84 times or whatever, or did she take the fifth amendment or whatever. how was this conducted? i understand there were so many ground rules on this so-called interview, that it was just a waste of time going through the hoops. liz: all right, former fbi assistant director jim kallstrom. we appreciate your time and your service to our country. >> liz, thank you, one thing, i did not make a recommendation that -- the fbi does not decide who's indicted and not indicted. i recommend the fact he didn't pass that onto the attorney general and let her take the political heat. liz: great point there. thank you, sir, for your time. >> thank you. liz: hillary clinton labeled trump a racist and sexist at the debate, america's first family is doubling down on trump's comments, hear what they say about trump when they hit the campaign trail. we have trump national
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spokesperson katrina pierson up next.
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i didn't expect it because voting, if you're perceived as voting against 9/11 families right before an election, not surprisingly, that's a hard vote for people to take, but it would have been the right thing to do. liz: joining me trump national spokesperson, katrina pierson. what are your thoughts on what the president just said? >> you know sometimes as a leader you are supposed to make tough decisions and for once americans would have liked to have seen this president choose americans over foreign interests and saw again today that this president was less interested in supporting american families. here we are talking about one of the greatest terrorist attacks on our country and these families want recourse to. this day, we are 15 years into a war, and we still don't know what's going on. it is absolutely unacceptable, these families want recourse and it's time to put families first. liz: in the censored 9/11
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pages, you were mentioning, two senators skipped the vote? >> two senators, bernie sanders and tim kaine. these are our two people who are out there campaigning for hillary clinton as we speak, and she needs to be asked her opinion on this and why the two senators did not participate in this. this is not about opening up a process for countries just to sue the united states, we're not talking about citizens of that country participating in the 9/11 attacks, we are talking about those related to the government of that country. the same country that gave the clinton foundation over $10 million. hillary clinton needs to answer this. liz: newt gingrich says exports jihadism around the world. hillary clinton calling mr. trump racist and sexist the other night. roll tape. >> so he has a long record of engaging in racist behavior. he has really started his
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political activity based on this racist lie that our first black president was not an american citizen. this is a man who has called women pigs, slobs and dogs. liz: president obama and the first lady on the campaign trail today picking up where hillary clinton left off. listen. >> people just do not give her credit, and part of it maybe is because she's a woman, and we have not elected a woman president before. >> there are those who questioned and continue to question for the past eight years whether my husband was even born in this cntry. [booing] and let me say, hurtful, deceitful questions, deliberately designed to undermine his presidency. liz: not unusual for the president and first lady to campaign for the nominee of their own party, but what do you make of their accusation says in. >> i think the hypocrisy is on another level because here you have the president and first
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lady and hillary clinton who for over a year now have been saying we want to be substantive and talk about policies but then are campaigning on personal attacks and slandering mr. trump. liz: that's a good point. when you looked at the -- 9/11 -- not 9/11, excuse me, the debate, you didn't hear a lot about president obama's policies and what they have done to the u.s. economy, and now we have the media calling donald trump a sexist because he interrupted hillary clinton at the debate. here he is at the debate. >> i'm going to be blamed for everything that's ever happened. >> why not? >> why not? yeah. it did collapse. donald thinks climate change is a hoax perpetrated by the chinese, i think it's real. >> i do not say that. >> i mining husband did a pretty good job in the 1990s, i think about what worked and how we can make it work again. >> well, he approved nafta, he approved nafta, the single worst trade deal. liz: hillary clinton has been
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in a debating mode for two decades or more. >> since high school, actually. liz: is it sexist? >> it wouldn't have mattered who won the republican primary, the republicans a racist and sexist and misogynist, we saw this when she was debating bernie sanders and bill clinton was called sexist, it is nothing new. have you someone who's going to defend himself. it's a debate. the moderator was not asking hillary clinton tough questions or following up on her scandals, of course mr. trump is going to interject. >> the other issue that came up, mr. trump not running for office, a private citizen and called miss venezuela, miss piggy, miss housekeeping because she is latina. the bloomberg poll saying mr. trump is behind 13 percentage points from mrs. clinton. "wall street journal" poll, 7 percentage points behind. but the other side of that
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debate that is not reported is juanita broaddrick who claims bill clinton raped her in 1978, she's responding to remarks that her parents have been attacked all her life. she is tweeting -- and so that's the issue. what do you make of juanita broaddrick's tweets here? >> first with, miss universe, those are unsubstantiated claims. mr. trump would tell if you he called you a name. he's not going to hide that. she was on fox news and was asked was anybody around when he said this? she couldn't answer the question. that did not happen. and cnn, we have now seen archived article on cnn where mr. trump was helping her through the process. if she did not lose weight, she was going to lose her crown. mr. trump was helping her throh the process. that's another person who's out there trying to trash donald
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trump, to raise their profile. we've seen this throughout the entire campaign. with juanita broaddrick, this is extremely important, alleged words that mr. trump used, not the actions of hillary clinton, specifically with people like juanita broaddrick, with gennifer flowers. amazing how the tactics, one of the mistresses said that hillary terrorized her, intimidated her, made threats against her, one were threatened with naked photos of going public with her. actions taken against her and the media runs with it. liz: donald trump accused of politicizing the federal reserve and saying it's causing another massive stock bubble because of it. just a day later guess where janet yellen is, answering questions before congress? we've got former republican presidential candidate ron paul, and he's saying end the fed entirely. he's going to talk about that and much, much more, don't go
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. >> we're in a bubble right now, and the only thing that looks good is the stock market, but if you raise interest rates even a little bit, that's going to come crashing down. we are in a big fat ugly bubble, and we better be awfully careful. and we have a fed that's doing political things. liz: donald trump accusing washington of politicizing the federal reserve as fed chair janet yellen testifying on the hill today about the bank's regulatory role. i'd like to bring to you former presidential candidate and former republican congressman ron paul. thanks for being on the show, mr. paul. congressman, do you agree that the fed has become overly politicized? >> absolutely. it's been that way for a long, long time. i can remember way back when nixon had arthur burns to deal with and asked arthur burns, you're talking with the
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president, doing what the president wants? certainly, that's the only way we can maintain our cf1 o independence. this is not new, and they always dock it and say we need independence, what they want is secrecy to deal with the financial system so nobody knows what they're doing. >> i think you're right, lbj razzed mr. burns by the necktie and said print money for my vietnam war! >> right. liz: the other issue i'd like to switch gears, sir, congress overriding president obama's veto on basically and letting 9/11 victims sue saudi arabia, that just happened just hours ago. it was a bipartisan push, democrats and republican overriding the president's veto and congressman, your son ron paul, jr., worked to explain saudi arabia's role in the 9/11 plot. what is your take on this bill? >> i think it's wonderful. i understand where the president is coming from.
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it does open the door that we have to live under the same rules we're applying to others so they worry there will be charges against us for causing harm around the world. i think the wonderful part about this is you know anybody who suggested a question mark after 9/11 that some nefarious friend of ours were helping, you know, you were a truther, an idiot and dismissed, but now this tells me that the american people have awakened, politicians don't usually vote so unanimously for an issue, so that means the people are awake and they're doing this, and i think this is very good we're getting more to the bottom of this, and i just think the secrecy held by the 9/11 commission is atrocious and the fact that we almost got that information out, but now, you know center, a debate and the people are responded. so i get frustrated congress never reacted, don't care what the people think.
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if the people wake up and send the message, the politicians finally will, this is a strong message that the american people are upset with the way the 9/11 commission was handled. liz: thank you, congressman ron paul. next up, donald trump getting more hollywood backlash. katy perry, this is a move she's making, stripping naked urging her fans to vote for hillary clinton. now we have madonna should we say birthday suit? i don't know if we want to say that. don't go away. happen all by its. happen all by its. it needs to be earned every day. using wellness to keep away illness. and believing a single life can be made better by millions of others. as a health services and innovation company optum powers modern healthcare by connecting every part of it. so while the world keeps searching for healthier we're here to make healthier happen.
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state you woke up in. any look is okay, a child's onesies. hunk in kid's briefs. the free xl t-shirt you got from your bank, or if you're like me, i sleep naked. let those babies loose! >> all right, ma'am, that's enough of that. liz: okay, it'come to this, nude voting. singer and hillary clinton supporter katy perry stripping down for funny or die video, it's an attempt to appeal to voters but a certain type of voter. now we've got madonna jumping on board with the nude voting thing taking it off in support for hillary clinton. madonna tweeting -- with me now to talk about this, my power political panel gop strategist and red alert politics ron meyer and jessica tarlov.
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ron, nude voting, what do you think? >> desperate democrats are disrobing for hillary clinton. [laughter] >> because millennials have left the party for them. that's the big problem is that millennials are saying they aren't going to turn out ought all or running in huge numbers. hillary is at 40%. president obama got 60% so where is this missing 20% in looking at third party or saying they're not going to vote at all. so she's bringing out the big guns and making her big guns get naked. >> she went there. that's what it is. madonna and katy perry have done events with her already and getting to this point where i don't know, it seems like it's objectifying your body for the vote. it's bizarre to me. liz: to ron's point hillary is getting half of the millennial support that president obama got. >> ron is completely right.
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issue is people won't turn out or vote third party. that's why you saw hillary with bernie sanders trying to rally his voters and talking about her debt free college plan which she obviously adapted from him. we're talking about the facts and she's going to go for the public option, medicare and things like that. liz: debt free college, nothing is ever free? of course it's not free. it's for families earning 125,000 or less, not for everybody. of course, we need to sell millennials and everything that hillary clinton is doing including what happened at the debate is about enthusiasm. this is not -- we have the numbers if they turn out. liz: nexup, guys tackle this one, the nbc sitcom will and grace coming back after ten years off the air with a special presidential election themed mini episode. we had actress debra messing saying the score of the skit was to get people out to vote. what do you make of this move, jessica?
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>> i love will and grace, i was super excited to see the gang together. liz: do you think it works? >> i don't know. we need a couple more weeks of this. i think if we have another replay of the debate monday night. liz: the dems need a couple more weeks. >> to see how this is working. everyone do your thing. liz: ron, what do you think? >> illustrate what i think most americans are feeling. these are the choices? they said that and in their discussion it was hilarious, i loved it. it reinforced the candidates are totally laughable. liz: debra messing is a huge hillary supporter, that is not exactly true. i take your point. quite obvious -- >> hang on, i want to hear ron. ron, do you think this will work? >> no, 46% of the millennials say they'll vote. usually the number is 60 or 65. that number is down from everyone. i don't think comedy or naked actors and singers are going to help with anything. liz: jessica, final word?
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>> i wouldn't call it desperate and the d's and the illiteration, we need to make sure they turn out. please vote in whatever outfit you want. liz: ron and jessica, thank you for your time. maybe a better investment than stocks. there is a report that opec will limit production in november. oil is jumping, biggest gain in almost six months, surging over 5% to settle at over 47 bucks a barrel. national gas prices holding at just over $2 a gallon. it's down 8 cents from a year ago. more after this. anything worth pursuing hard work and a plan. at baird, we approach your wealth management strategy the same way to create a financial plan built to last from generation to generation. we'll listen. we'll talk. we'll plan. baird. wheyou wantve somto protect it.e, at legalzoom, our network of attorneys can help you every step of the way.
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