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>> liz: that was reporter jeff f lock and his camera person laurie bullerdick getting hit in the middle of the protest last night the protest turned violent after president trump's rally in phoenix but today calling for unity in a news speech in reno, nevada this as the president is not backing down. he's doubling down on his policies. welcome to risk & reward i'm liz macdonald. the u.s. stocks dow ending down 87 points on deepening concerns about d.c. in action stopping the president's agenda and now his threats of a government shutdown. this as the left was very much in action last night. violence scenes outside the phoenix center after the president addressed thousands of supporters inside. president trump spoke for well over an hour spending a lot of time railing against the media and defending his comments about the charlottesville violence and then the president moved on to policy and just as combative.
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he said he would probably terminate the nafta trade deal but shutdown the government if the border wall was not funded and he criticized senate republicans for not passing his progress agenda and today in nevada the president striking a completely different tone calling for unity and healing divisions but senate majority leader mitch mcconnell today saying he and president trump have been and continue to be in regular contact about their share of goals, apparently contradicting a new york times story that says the two are in a political cold war. we have an all-star line up to break it down the rnc caylee mci nety, geraldo rivera, and sheriff david clark but first let's get to tumultuous campaign advisory board member and jeff d ewitt. good to see you jeff. >> great to see you liz. >> liz: jeff you were with him. the base loves him the left hates him there was a 180 between the tone of the speech last night and today. critics are saying the speech was night was device ever and now calling for unity.
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what's going on here? >> well i think it was somewhat unifying in the fact that mitch mcconnell sent over his statement that shows they're on the same page bringing people together so i was at the rally last night as you pointed out and i think that this was the president getting his message across and we have to remember that he's the president and he sets the agenda, so all of the american people want to see congress get something done. the president laid out his priorities and now it's time to enact them and i think the only part they're calling device ever is when he's obviously calling out some of the lawmakers in d.c. for not helping get that agenda done. >> liz: how does publicly humiliating lawmakers get them on your side to pass that agenda you went after john mccain, he's a war hero with brain cancer. you went after jeff flake and somebody in the audience said mccain should die or words to that effect. how does that make america great again and help his growth agenda >> well don't forget he didn't name them. >> liz: he inferred to them but go ahead. >> but look the bottom line is this.
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we want to get things done. republicans don't forget for seven years have been going around raising hundreds of millions of dollars saying they're going to repeal obamacare. how many cut dozens of times did the house send a full repeal to president obama's desk and yet won't one time send it to president trump's desk a man who says he will sign it. so this is him saying go ahead let's to this now and deliver on the promises that not only he made but so many senators and congressman made that now is being shown they are all talk and no action. >> liz: well your point is well taken. they did raise a lot of money in political donations campaigning on reversing president obama's policies. let's get to what the president said about his charlottesville comments. he left out the many many size comment and the comment about fine people marching with neo-nazis and he's been criticized and people object to how that's been characterized. what are your thoughts there. some are saying he's trying to rewrite history. >> the bottom line is on the way of that event, he came out and he did issue a full reputiation
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of all hate and bigotry in this country so he did come out with a very good statement that if obama would have done the same statement and he did in the past at other events it would have been accepted by the press as totally fine but the press is trying to nitpick at any little thing with president trump so they said well it's not specific enough he didn't name the exact groups, which he then later came out and did and then he got on his case saying well why didn't he do that the first time? so the bottom line is president trump is draining the swamp and this is the swamp fighting back and that's the game they have. they have an outlet that's the media but i think the media is confused right now but what they don't realize is that president trump has this other outlet through these rallies and through social media he connects with hundreds and bypasses the media. >> liz: but you can't get around the swamp. i hear what you're saying there's swamp agendas. we get it, understand what you're saying. it's just being asked how does it make the president's agenda
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move forward when he's ripping into republicans, publicly humiliating them again last night. how does that move the agenda forward? i mean, that's the issue right? why can't he do it behind closed doors? why publicly humiliate them? >> well i think what you have also is a more transparent presidency than we've ever seen. we know a lot more about his inner thinking through social media and other uses than any other president in history but this is a way to get people on board. look, a lot of these pep are coming up for re-election next year. 2018 is going to be a big year and this is basically telling the base who they should and should not support, so i think we're seeing a backlash against both parties and against the establishment in this country and that's why i've been saying for a while, i think next year is an anti-incumbent wave because of these reasons and this is his way to point out to the base again who they should and should not support and if the lawmakers want his support they need to get on board with the agenda. >> liz: he has 63 million people
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voting for that agenda. they're sick of the government blob. people out there get it what's going on with the d.c. swamp. it's just that what is the president doing, where is the art of the deal to get that pushed forward? we understand the d.c. swamp is beyond irritating. it's just that is he playing it right? that's what the questions are about and you were on air for a moment with the president last night. here is the thing, jeff are you personally thinking of running against senator jeff flake? >> well, i've never spoken to that question and because i'm very happy with my job. i love being the arizona state treasurer and i loved helping president trump get elected. i'm very happy doing what i'm doing obviously there are a lot of people that i keep popping up and google alerts every night with an article written about them but i've never said anything that to the case that i would do something like that, so you know, my main concern is getting the agenda done too. i very much want to see lower taxes. i very much want to see our borders protected. >> liz: come on jeff. it sounds like you're running. now if you're running you have to come on this show and announce that you're running. will you do that? >> [laughter] liz, if that ever
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happens, i'll be happy to come back and tell you. >> liz: that was a smart answer because i said will you do that meaning you will do that and come on the show. i'm kidding good to see you jeff come on soon again. we love having you on. now after president trump's speech last night, former national intelligence director james clafrey worked under president obama basically questioned president trump's fitness to be president let's take a listen. >> i don't know when i've listen ed and watched something like this from a president that i found more disturbing. i really questioned his ability to fitness to be in this office and i also am beginning to wonder about his motivation for maybe he is looking for a way out. >> liz: conservative comentator, he is the author of indian country, look whose here, curt s chlicter, curt what do you
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think of mr. clapper's comments? >> well i don't think much of mr. clapper and i think even less of his comments. this is a guy who presided over the obama administrations absolute destruction of america 's foreign policy the abandonment of our allies, the rise of isis and failure in afghanistan. you know, i would think that director of intelligence ought to be kind of a neutral non- partisan public servant but he's shown himself to be a political hack. nothing he says makes any difference. nobody should be listening to this guy. he should go off to some think tank somewhere and get out of our sight. >> liz: jessica clapper also questioned the president's past criticism of the intelligence community. look what he is comparing it to. listen. >> do you see this as a crisis mr. clapper? >> well, i'm not sure what the definition of a crisis is. if it is, we've been in it for quite a while. certainly since the election.
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i have to say, don i was, i couldn't help but think in the course of the charlottesville statements about charlottesville when he was so quick to characterize the intelligence community as natzis like en us to natzis on the tenth of january yet seems very reluctant to call out the wannabe natzis in this case, and maybe that's i'm being a little perochial here and defensive about the intelligence community but that's one thought i had so i think if it is a crisis, we've been in it for quite a while. >> liz: the president made those comments, jessica, because the intelligence community was leak ing like a siv over that russian-- >> don't call anyone a natzi. >> liz: what are your thoughts on the comparison there? >> what donald trump did? >> liz: what mr. clapper just said. >> oh, i thought mr. clapper was spot on in his comments. i thought it was a palling what donald trump said in his constant questioning of the intelligence community. whether you're getting leaks or
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not you have respect for the community and you deal with it a different way. you said in your interview right before the state treasurer of arizona there's certain things you do behind closed doors and i think talking about people especially intelligence officers is comperable to natzis is one of those things. i would say as well that anyone whose watching that rally last night and there were a lot of people watching, a lot of people there and a lot of people waiting to come out noticed the fact that the president was exactly who he was on the campaign trail. he was not the man he was monday night when he read from a tele prompter and read matt ic's words or mcmaster's words and he then swapped back into that person today when he made a speech. the man last night caulked about joe arpaio, he did not mention heather heyer. >> liz: he did later in the speech. i hear what you're saying, continue. >> it's so depressing to me and i know that i have no reputation which i think isn't fair being a hysterical liberal about these kinds of things but when you listen to something as depressing to the united states of america spending so much time going after the free press,
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saying that it's us versus them then you hear him use the words "unity" and you know it means nothing to him just words he's reading off of a screen and he doesn't believe in that whatsoever. he doesn't believe the press is serving a valuable purpose. i would in more him to read some of the amazing journalism that has been coming out, which i know he doesn't like it because it's tracking hem and he's listing all of the charities that are dropping including one that dropped out during the rally last night. you know,-- >> liz: by the way i want to know where you got the hysterical liberal thing. >> check my twitter. >> liz: the wall street journal today said that the president sounded like he was whining, but this is politics. man up. >> oh, exactly and first offer all, jessica, you're never hysterical. thanks, curt. >> making the arguments for your side and i think we should do more of that. less list area more facts and i think the facts show that president trump went out last
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night and he made his case to his people. that was a political speech. that was to tell his people i'm still here. you're still important to me. you still matter, i'm still going to fight for you. it wasn't meant to please the news media particularly the partisan news media that decided it's going to throw out objectiv ity and become a political actor and then become stunned when it gets treated like a political actor. >> liz: okay. it was to talk to his people. it was for different speeches. >> the thing is you have people, your people during the campaign. you have all americans you have 320 million people when you're president and that was something that obama got railed on for that he only spoke to the liberals that he only cared about-- >> liz: we'll leave it therement sorry. i hear what you're saying the point is that the president of not just their base but to the entire country. thank you, curtained jessica. we'll see you shortly you're coming back. president trump said he will shutdown the government if he does not get money for the border wall. now will that work and the
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a month that is about the same as the obama years, the economy is benefiting from president trump lifting that smothering blanket of regulations. consumer confidence at 16 year highs wall streeters point all that out. the stock market is driving higher on corporate earnings and global central bank printing around the world, trillions of dollars. that wall of liquidity searching for returns and stocks but here is the thing. we've got throw top banks, citigroup, morgan stanley and hs bc warn that this is an aging bull. they're warning of a market down turn. this as the frustrated president trump laced into the democrats are holding up his agenda. watch. >> president trump: we're giving you the biggest tax cut in the history of our country. the democrats are going to find a way to obstruct. if they do remember, they are stopping you from getting a massive tax cut. just remember that okay? >> liz: joining me now rnc spokesperson the one and
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only kelly mcirney. >> great to see you. >> liz: here is the thing with the democrats and we've looked at the democrat platforms for every president election since the 50s. they were for tax cuts. they were for small government. remember al gore wanted to dial back the government blob. when you look at the irs data and this is what's so striking democrats ignore it. 90% of businesses in this country report their income on income tax returns, so you raise those taxes, you are going to smash and crush middle class jobs, right? >> absolutely, and you make a great point. this is about the small business owner. this is about someone in the middle class. that's what tax reform is about. specifically small businesses who employ about half of the private workforce and yet they face tax burdens of up to 44%. you know, that needs to come down because it helps the middle class person as the better way tax plan we know someone making 55,000 and puts $5,000 back into their pocket each year. that's big. this is helping every american across-the-board and democrats are being obstructionists.
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>> liz: we've got two polls of energy in d.c. we've got the you didn't build that the government crowd that's barry sanders and elizabeth warren and we had the tax cutting free market that agenda the liberal economic growth agenda. it seeps that the republicans are sort of being cowed right now. we have senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. he did just put out a statement saying "the president and i and our teams have been and continue to be in regular contact about our share of goals" but kelly you saw the new york times story which says the two are in a political cold war so what do you think? >> look i think that's more palace entry. we know that's what the new york times and others like to report on but the bottom line is a seminole principle of the republican agenda is tax cuts, is putting more money in people 's pockets. it has to be done and that is what unites us. there's more that unites us than divides us and i know the new york times likes to focus on the petty fife, but at the end of the day it's about the voters who put the republican congress there who put a republican president there and that will be
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what in the end drives the agenda home. >> liz: you've been good about talking about how the d.c. swamp is in a bubble world, they're out of touch with the working class voters out there. now kelly you remember the obamacare architect jonathan gru ber. he tried to whip fast balls by taxpayers about the true cost of obamacare saying it's the stupidity of the american voter. well look at this the state of vermont is caught jonathan grube r trying to whip another fast ball submitting fraudulent phony invoices to vermont and he got caught over billing for consulting, look at this, a vermont sing l payer plan. that would have bankrupted the state. he has to give up 90,000 in fees what are your thoughts here? >> liz this is crazy. the man the architect behind obamacare raking in $400,000 from the state taxpayer dollars submitting false invoices, false paychecks, essentially fraud. he settles with the state. it's remarkable because this is what we see a lot of times with democratic leaders. you're preaching one thing i'm for the little guy and on the
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>> liz: president trump threaten ed last night he will shutdown the government if he does not get funding to build the border wall. let's listen. >> president trump: we are building a wall on the southern border which is absolutely necessary. [applause] >> president trump: build that wall. now, the obstructionist democrats would like us not to do it but believe me we have to close down our government we're building that wall. >> liz: now the debate is on will a government shutdown happen? paul ryan says it will not happen, but watch this. even before president trump's threats last night the goldman sachs came out with this report.
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it was warning clients that there was a 50% chance of a government shutdown. the shutdown and border wall talk plays well to the president 's base and look at this. former senate budget guys, they now warn a government shutdown that it seems inevitable. let's bring in fox news correspondent geraldo rivera. what do you think will there be a government shutdown? >> i don't think there will be a shutdown over the wall and i don't think there's going to be a shutdown at all. now, i thought the president during the campaign style rally held in phoenix last night was energetic and confident and it seemed to me that for a guy who is embattled as he has been since charlottesville at least, he really seemed to be having fun and i think that and thank god he didn't pardon joe arpaio in that setting. i think it would have been a disaster for him, just like i think that if he tries to do any major initiative on his own or
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just with mitch mcconnell, his earth sates allie he's going to have the same kind of disappointment he had with obamacare. i think he's got to reach out if for instance i'll give you a quick example of what i'm talking about. if he wants the wall, he can get a piece of the wall if he did something conciliatory. if you give me 1.6 or 1.7 billion to start the wall or put the wall in some strategic location what i'll do is i promise you i'll lay off the dream act kids who came here at an early age without documentation. i won't go after them, i won't deport them. i'll give you the dreamers if you give me a piece of the wall. that's i think the way he's going to get anything done. he's not going to get tax reform done unilaterally. he's not going to get his healthcare uni- latter unilaterally. it's pretty clear and i think that right now for all of the fact that i love his exuberance, he has to be pragmatic. >> liz: to your point senate
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minority leader chuck schumer did go after the president about these threats about shutting down the government. "if the president pursues this path against the wishes of both republicans and democrats as well as majority of the american people he will be heading towards a government shutdown which nobody will like and which will not accomplish anything." i mean the markets could get rocked. it did last time the government was shutdown and the government loss its triple a rating. what do you think now? do people really want the wall built or not? >> well, personal nestle i think the walls a waste of money. why do i think it's a waste of money? because if you see the statistics, ever since secretary kelly had the department of homeland security, undocumented immigration across the southern border is down almost 75% so if you succeeded in cutting illegal immigration by three-fourths and all you've spent is some airtime with strong statements and so forth, and a renewed confidence in the border patrol guys who are now getting a patton the back instead of a slap in the
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face why are you going to spend 25 billion, 30 billion, 35 billion of very contentious money to build that wall when you could be using that money to build bridges and tunnels and highways and public schools and so forth. i want him to succeed more than anything. i still i love the guy. i really want the 45th president of the united states to be one of the greatest ever but unless he becomes more pragmatic and i use that word again, he could be as idealistic as he wants and has to be practical in the way he does business deals if not to assumer to some middle of the road democrat. reach out to them you aren't getting it done with 52 republicans and you can't depend on a bunch of them as we've seen in these previous votes. i want him-- >> liz: i hear you geraldo and john mccain's not well either, so 52 is shrinking that majority geraldo good to see you come back soon we love having you on. >> right. >> liz: president trump speaking to veterans the american legion today this after announcing his new plans for afghanistan this
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this is about national security here. though not confirmed, there are reports that the countries in play are cambodia, aratria, guinea and sierra leone, and now is the host of the documentary series war stories he is retired lieutenant colonel oliver north. good to see you. what do you think of the administrations plan to halt travel from these countries refusing to help homeland security? >> well look if other countries don't cooperate with our extradition or our security policies, sanctions are certainly appropriate. jimmy carter imposed visa sanctions on iran after our embassy was socked in 1979. ronald reagan in posed visa and many other sanctions on libra in 1981, so it's a bit more complicated today because visa sanctions involve two u.s. government agencies now state department and dhs, and as we all know, state and dhs don't always agree and the dispute inevitably will end up on the president's desk, but i'm just guessing, liz, given that john
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kelly was dhs secretary before becoming white house chief of staff, there will be these sanctions imposed on countries who don't cooperate. >> liz: colonel let's get to the strategy for afghanistan. sure. >> liz: we were just wondering do you agree with the plan? we've had guests on that say adding more troops is more of the same not a game changer and afghanistan is so corrupt it loses entire cities to handfuls to terrorists and pick up trucks i mean a hundred thousand troops at one point now 8400 what are your thoughts? >> look, i think first of all it was a surprising speech. i watched it right here and then was on right afterwards. i was surprised that he acknowledged he was changing his mind and that was just part of a very surprising speech. here is another one. that speech did not leak, liz. it was a policy speech not military strategy and i'm glad he's committing to win in afghanistan. certainly that was attributed to the kind of people that he's got advising him now but look he said objectives, he said there's going to be an honorable outcome
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there's not going to be a hasty withdrawal. we're not going to have a withdrawal timeframe. it's conditioned-based and what he said was i'm going to give the latitude to the field commanders just as we've done now with isis in iraq and syria. look, you got to remember his secretary of defense actually used the word "a my haitian" when he was talking to the cadet s at west point in may. it's what we're having to do. we haven't been able to do that in the rules of engagement that were set by the previous administration. i don't know what the appropriate number was or is but i'll tell you this, they're going to be able to kill terrorists and that's what he said he would do. >> liz: correct me if i'm wrong, colonel under the obama administration the rules of engagement were that the u.s. troops can assist directly afghan troops they're being attacked by terrorists and i think they can now right? >> well yeah it goes beyond that you're going to see forward observers and air controllers and joint tactical air controllers from the air force out in the ground just like you do right today in syria.
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you're going to see special operations. i am hoping that there's latitude and one of the great things about this is he didn't say all of the things we're going to do. here is what we're going to do and how we do it. the reality is we've lost 2258 americans killed in action, 2257 wounded in action, we spent almost a trillion dollars in afghanistan and this year it's 50 billion. i'm hoping that the 17th commander commander in 16 years john nicholson will buy into the idea of something just beyond the surge. you can't turnover the troops every six or seven months so there should be latitude for new ideas, like a hybrid of covert operations with foreign advisors embedded with afghan troops. they live with them fight with them. they don't go away in six months . the foreign and afghan pilots in every air strike which is what was proposed at camp david last weekend those kinds of civilian contractors, forward air controllers are going to
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live with afghan units fly with afghan pilots. i think you could have if you will a hybrid of what was proposed and i hope the military is open to it. >> liz: thank you colonel north and thank you for your service to our country. be sure to watch war stories saturdays and sundays right here on the fox business network. thank you again colonel north. let's take a quick look at the stocks and how they did let's take a check on lockheed martin all ending the day down in the red. let's get to this story for you, u.s. new home sales unexpectedly plunged in july hitting a seven month low as prices sore, the concerns about a slowdown in the housing market recovery. now new home sales dropped 9.4% to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 571,000 units sold last month but that's the lowest level since december 2016. sales fell in the northeast, south and west but rose in the midwest and look at this the median praise of a new home increased 6.3% in july versus a year ago now $313, 700 is the
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>> liz: arizona police using tear gas, also flash bangs as apparently rubber bullets and smoke canisters and possibly
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pepper spray to disburse crowds numbering in the thousands last night outside the president's rally at the phoenix convention center. we do have some news we've got reports coming in the phoenix police chief does stand by the officers but apparently the actions will be investigated. now the police chief said this was only in response to officers being attacked with bottles, rocks, and tear gas by protester s. let's bring in milwaukee county sheriff david clark, good to see you, sir. >> thank you. >> liz: now sheriff, our own reporter was on the ground reporting on the protest. it got violent, there was a lot of action there. how do you feel the police responded here? >> a plus. i was proud of the phoenix police department. they were prepared they had a plan, they were properly equipped. their force was reasonable. it was measured. they kept the peace, very few injuries i'll tell you what when i hear who showed up they showed up to do one thing. it wasn't protest which is why i
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call them agitate ors. they show up to harass and intimidate the trump supporters who wanted to attend the rally but at the end of the day when i hear it's the agitateors who are complaining about the tear gas and rubber bullets, i say job well done. >> liz: sheriff you've been staying on this and you've been watching these protests and these violent riots taking place across the country. can you talk more about how police themselves are being attacked? we're hearing about rocks and bottles and bags of urine and feces being thrown at police officers. what more do you know about that >> totally inappropriate. that's why i say these aren't peaceful protests. they come down to harass and intimidate but when you attack you assault the police it's a felony and police have the right to use any and all reasonable force to defend themselves to keep the peace so that's what we saw but what i'm glad is that finally somebody got the phoenix police department, no standdown orders no bend but don't break, no holding the line like we saw in san jose and berkeley in charlottesville and
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in baltimore. at least more people the necessary getting hurt and killed, more law enforcement officers than necessary getting hurt or killed. those officers were professionals, like all of our officers across the country and when that model is used it was used in phoenix is what i used in milwaukee during the riots last year. you have less property damage, you have fewer injuries, you have fewer deaths and that's what you want in these situations, pro tech of life and property. >> liz: let's talk about that for a second because we have seen standoffs where the rioters come face to face with other groups. you saw that in charlottesville. we've seen rioters basically ruining property. we saw that in washington d.c. here is what we're hearing the officers did to your point in phoenix so you had a line of police officers that pushed the crowd toward one street. the officers also blocked intersections and they actually warned police, the crowd they warned the crowd from a helicopter to leave or face arrest. what are your thoughts there?
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>> well that's what you're supposed to do. that's why i gave them an a plus you give out the commands tell the crowd what you want them to do, what you don't want them to do what you won't tolerate but like you said you can not allow these two groups to come into close contact with each other like we saw ic charlottesville so again, that's not new. that is the successful model to use at these incidents where there's the potential for violence. kudos to the phoenix police department and their chief. they are going to be just fine after that investigation. it was reasonable and measured. >> liz: to your point sheriff, we have senior citizens coming to these rallies. we have parents with little children, even infants, babies coming to these rallies. that's the point right protecting people. >> correct. they are just exercising their first amendment right to attend a political rally cheer on their candidate. when barack obama held them i do not remember any conservatives or anybody on the right showing
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up to harass and intimidate people who wanted to attend a barack obama rally and support their candidate, so we're seeing completely unacceptable behavior on the part of these agitateors. there is no place in our america democracy for that sort of behavior and it needs to be crushed. >> liz: sure, crushed a tough word. sheriff clark good to see you sir thanks so much for coming on the show. president trump said many in the media they've been dishonest in covering his comments about race and other issues. we're going to bring back the political power panel to debate it, next. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three-quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do? drive three-quarters of a car? now if you had liberty mutual new car replacement™, you'd get your whole car back. i guess they don't want you driving around on three wheels. smart. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, we'll replace the full value of your car. liberty stands with you™.
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>> president trump: truly dishonest people in the media and the fake media, they make up stories, they have no sources in many cases. they say a source says, there is
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no such thing, but they don't report the facts. just like they don't want to report that i spoke out forceful it against hatred, bigotry and violence and strongly condemned the neo-nazis, the white supremacists and the kkk. >> [applause] >> liz: president trump last night revisiting his initial comments on charlottesville, blasting the media over the backlash. he's being criticized though for leaving out his most controversial comments in his initial statements in other words what he said last night he left out the things that he had said initially, including the phrases many many side responsible for the violence and also though today has a new speech out calling for unity. back with me now kirk some lit z er, democrat strategist, okay so curt, the president had that rally last night and today in reno, nevada calling for unity. what are your thoughts there? >> well that's what a president should do. he should call for unity, and i think that we all need to take a deep breath.
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the idea that we have a natzi in the white house is almost, it's just idiotic, and it's so dangerous because you minimize the real danger of these political extremists both on the left and the right when you start calling people by names and saying things that are obviously untrue. >> liz: so the president has been accused of that though. >> well of course, but he's heard it and people call him out when he does but he should also be praised when he calls for unity and does the right thing. that's what he seemed to do today in reno and we should support him. >> liz: jessica your thoughts. oh, sure today's speech was just fine. last night totally unacceptable. what happened right after charlottesville also unacceptable. it's now being marketed as if this is a fake news problem and a left problem but there are countless republicans who may not have been brave enough to call them out by his name and say president trump, your comments are unacceptable. some did like corey gardner, lindsay graham, john mccain said absolutely this is not how we talk about the kkk and neo-nazis
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we don't lump them in with hatred and bigotry when there was clearly a march organized by them for a very specific reason and if you watch the vice documentary where they boldly went in on a friday night you know what they were there for so the president today, unity, tomorrow we don't know and that's the problem and that was the problem on the campaign and when you say as well that the president only gets called out but he still hasn't apologized for talking about the intelligence community in comparison with the natzis. those words should not freely flow out of anyones mouth. >> liz: former chair of the democrat national committee and representative debbie wasserman- schultz defending her decision to keep her computer tech staff, charge with bank fraud on the payroll on her payroll she says she was worried he was not receiving "due process" and he was targeted because he was from pack pack pakistan, curt debbie wasserman
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schultz stopped paying this individual back in july, he was trying to flee to his native pakistan. was debbie wasserman-schultz protecting a potential criminal? >> well, i don't know if i want to attribute to mallace, what can easily be attributed to in competence. he's showing the same level of capability and inside that made her such a success heading up the democrats for so long so if debbie wasserman-schultz it's a flip of the coin. is she covering something up or just kind of dumb. i don't know which, could be either or both. >> liz: to clear it up do you think jessica it's time for debbie wasserman-schultz to testify for congress. she won't do it apparently now because national security is an issue. if they had access to house foreign affair committee members e-mails and house intelligence as well. i think i saw something that was sold information to foreign entities. >> liz: yes. so that is a huge consideration if that is true she absolutely should testify. i personally don't think that
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debbie wasserman schultz is dumb but she is clear hi-- >> liz: why isn't she testifying >> oh, i don't know she didn't tell me but i think she should. i don't think that she is hidin- >> liz: this involves devices, potential e-mails and remember curt this came at a time when debbie wasserman schultz was supporting hillary clinton and basically pushing bernie sanders to the side. maybe she doesn't want that information out? >> well that's possibly true but let me put my lawyer hat on here if i'm debbie wasserman-schultz lawyer and i take a really big retainer to do it, i would say you're not going to say a damn thing to anyone. you're going to say nothing and we're going to try and, you know , rush this through and see if we can get out of this without you ending up in levin worth. this is bad. >> liz: curt and jessica thank you so much for your time. really appreciate it. we will be right don't go away. potsch: then i haa real treat for you today. michael: awesome. potsch: i'm going to show you a next generation pickup. michael: let's do this. potsch: this new truck now has a cornerstep built
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liz: take a look again how much the markets react to the news
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president trump is threatening a government shut down if he doesn't get his border wall funding. dow down 87 points. s&p down eight. nasdaq down 19 points. thanks for having us in your home. that does it for us tonight. connell mcshane here with "making money." connell: thanks very much, liz. following up on that president trump's agenda can he push it through a divided congress in a divided country? connell mcshane here on "making money." last night's blistering attacks on wide range of targets from the media to top republican lawmakers. tonight on the show something a little bit different from us. we'll take some time to dig deep into six important national debates, many of which are leading to the divisions in the country. some, not all, involve the president. so, here they are. trump versus the media, nationalists versus globalists, north korea versus trump.


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