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condition. our prayers and sympathies go out to everyone in parkland, florida as we ponder this. keep it right here on fox business. lou: good evening, everybody. i'm david asman in for lou dobbs. we're following breaking news out of south florida. a gunman opening fire at a high school in parkland, florida killing at least 17 people and sending students running for their lives. the suspect identified as former student nicolas cruz is in custody. we'll bring you all of the breaking details and complete analysis with law enforcement officials bill gavin, dan bongino and with us congressman matt gates here to weigh on the democratic refusing to revise their intel memo. and we'll speak to two of the best political analysts in the business, ed rollins and charlie
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hurt authorities in park labd, florida say 17 dead after a shooting at a local high school. police have taken a suspect into custody, nicolas cruz, a 19-year-old former student. the broward county sheriff's department responded to gun fire at marjory douglas high school a little before noon. students and teachers were told to stay inside the school and the police cleared the area and searched for the shooter, who was cornered about a mile and a half away. at this hour, investigators remain on the scene trying to piece together what happened while school officials work to unite all of the schools, more than 3,000 students with their families. joining me now is bill gavin, former assistant director of the fbi's new york office. bill, you can't train for this, can you? >> no, david, you really can't.
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it's such a tragedy. and there are so many different things that are going to happen right now. the children are going to miss school for the next week, petrified to go back into the school room. what surprises me is he was a student, not a student anymore. how did he get into a school where there's a police officer on duty. not to blame anybody but just to look at maybe the process. i think also there's some report that having pulled the fire alarm, the children did what they were trained to do. but they ran right into the shooting gallery for the subject, for the individual doing the shooting. and that's tragic. maybe something has to be done with the protocol. it's such a horrible set of circumstances, 17 people dead. more injured. we don't know the full extent of everybody's injuries. david, it's just one tragic event after another. and now law enforcement has to unravel this big ball of yarn and find out how did he get the
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gun, did he have any assistants, what did he do, how did he get out of the school afterwards. it's a tragedy. david: it's hard to be clinical in analyzing this when there's so many emotions involved, life and death is staring everybody in the face right now. of course beyond the 1 17 dead there's still some critically injured in the hospital. two of the people who made it to the hospital died in the hospital. so we wish those three in critical condition the very best. but, not only did he get into the school, bill, but he got out of the school and apparently shot and killed individuals after he left the school. now you mentioned that there was a police officer on duty. as far as i can tell, and we heard earlier from the sheriff, there were actually two police e vehicles on the school property at all times. so apparently that wasn't enough. >> david, a normal individual
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acting, you know, like a normal individual would see two police cars at the school and wouldn't attempt to do something like that. one has to look at the mental makeup of an individual like this. and i sure don't want to say that to give him some defense of just plain being evil. but all of these things have to be considered as they decide what the problem was and maybe how they can help to rectify it. but you're right. the emotion of this thing, and you just can't repair it with like clinically analyzing this whole thing. it's a horrible selt of set of circumstances. it's happened before and unfortunately it's probably going to happen again. david: i know. that is the tragedy. we'll get into the subject of the evil nature of this and that. but for our purposes, and you are the expert in dealing with criminality and how to prevent it, this was not a current student. apparently he had been in the high school before, he was no longer there. apparently he got kicked out for
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misbehaving in one fashion or another. he also was involved in social media in a very disturbing aspect. we didn't get specifics as to what he did, but whatever he put on social media was found by the sheriff to be extraordinarily disturbing and he's seen a lot. there were so many cues, it appears here, and one of those things that because he wasn't a current student, he couldn't have had current id unless he made something up. are we all going to have to revise those standards by which we allow students and former students in schools? >> david, you look at the protocol. they probably have a very tight protocol. they probably do things correctly. and just one individual gets into the school like this. he knows the school, he know what is the process is, he knows the procedure. did he piggyback into the school behind someone else. all will come out in the wash. it's a tragic set of events and
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i don't know how you can develop any sort of a plan that's going to 100% prevent in lik anythinge this from happening again. it's not doable. david: bill, you used to work for the federal government. the fbi is a federal agency. we love the fact that our schools are local entities, to the extent that the federal government invades schools and gives them orders on how to teach and so forth usually riles us all. but i'm wondering whether federal intervention in the security of our school system is necessary now. >> i think that probably -- the federal government has been involved in something like that, maybe in helping to establish some of the protocols in some of the schools in working with local law enforcement for sure. they've been training together, table top exercises together preparing for something like this. and that may be as far as the federal government is going to put their nose under this tent, unless there is some other bill
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passed or initiative that the federal government does get further involved in it, david. david: bill, you know my stage manager, i don't think he'd mind if i mentioned, an ex-military guy. you were a former fbi. my son is a marine. the most hardened military person i know, when they see a death it affects them deeply and they're trained to expect something like that from happening. in the case of a high school student, how do you get over something like this? >> it's extremely difficult to get over something like this, david. you are right on ta target. you can prepare, tell someone how to smoot straight, train them, go and shoot, all of those kinds of things. nothing prepares you to witness the carnage of something like this. it happens to everybody. you lose sleep over it. you get sick over it. this happens and it's such a
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horrible event. i don't know any other way around it owe than facing it and trying to have some psychological help to get over what you eve seen. david: what really hurts, you see the kids describing what happened, the eyewitness accounts all day. but most of them are describing it kind of a matter of fact way. you know that later on it's going to come and hit them like a ten-ton brick. >> right on target. you see the kids reacting like this. once the adrenaline goes down, once they relive what they've seen, the carnage, the blood, the bodies, it is definitely going to have a negative impact on them for a while until they can get over it. and i just pray that the school system -- i know they will have psychological help available for the kids. but the kids need to take advantage of that help. nobody is beyond that. you can't be the big tough person. law enforcement officials,
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everybody need to get that kind of help to get over such a true traumatic event. david: bill gavin, great to see you. thank you very much. >> thank you so much, david. my pleasure. david: our next guest is a congressman from florida, joins me now, matt gates serving in judiciary, budget and armed services. our deep condolences to you, matt. i feel like calling you by your first name when something like this happens in a strange way it brings us all together. have you talked to your fellow congress people and senators about what's going on, about what you can do? i know you're from up in the panhandle but clearly you want to help out your fellow floridians. >> of course, david. tears are falling in the sunshine state today. i was born in broward county, florida. my colleague teds deutsch is very shaken. he's returned home. i've spoken with members of the florida legislature who represent this community and there's a sense of shock and horror that i know reverberates
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throughout florida's families tonight and all over the country. david, this is particularly hard to process because we've done so much in florida to try to invest in school security and school resource officers. we've made state assets available to harden our schools with ingress and egress assets, photo id assets. it just shows how hard it can be to stop an event like this when you've got someone determined to do such terrible evil on a wide scale. david: i don't know if you heard me talking to bill gavin formerly from the fbi, but we were talking about how this perpetrator apparently got in and got out and was able to do damage on both the entry and the exit. clearly he was not a registered student. he had been kicked out of that school before for al. for all of the money that you invested on security and id, apparently it did no good. >> well in this case it does not
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appear that the protocols we had in place were sufficient to stop a horrible massacre, david. and our schools were not originally built with the concept of a fortress in mind. many schools in florida and throughout the country have wings and open doorways. more and more we're ken urging students to have part of their education off of campus with externships and internships, athletics and other curriculars. i spend a lot of time on school campuses and there's a lot of people coming and going for a variety of reasons. and we're going to have to reassess those protocols. i still believe the best innovations and solutions will come at the state and local level. but it just shows that this is not a problem that we can throw money at and hope it gets better. we've got to continue to challenge ourselves to be creative meeting this new challenge. david: congressman, beyond what actually happened and something like this happening again, the idea that tomorrow everybody
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gets in their corners, separate corners and talks about gun control. is there some way despite all of the grievances that everybody has with each other that you guys can come together, everybody in congress can come together with those in your state and local communities and figure out some protocol that will not be busted by something like this? >> of course, david. there are a variety of bipartisan solutions that i think can help us deal with violence in our communities. it was a liberal democrat from broward county, florida that i worked with when i was chairman of the criminal justice committee in the florida legislature to stop guns from going into the hands of people who were mentally ill and had served time in a mental institution. we were able to do that in a bipartisan way and received the support of gun advocates and public safety advocates and law enforcement and educators. but every general is fighting the last war and not the next one. but i fear that sometimes we
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have these horrible events and we get lost in those fact patterns rat thapatterns rathert the broader issues that impact safety and security in our community. obviously it's too early to assess the root cause of the event. but it's noteworthy that the state of florida was forward leaning in school security. we were a state heavily nervoused in the resources that we thought could stop this type of an episode. but clearly if someone is determined, it appears as though we've got to go back to the drawing board. a parent has to know when they drop a child off at school that they're going to be able to pick that child up safety. this is central to our communities and our educational mission as well. and we're going to have to got to working on it with our state and local partners. david: for a troubled kid who had been kicked out of this same high school for being troubled to walk in with an ar-15 rifle and do the carriage tha carnages responsible for shows you that
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the protocol has to be revisited. i wish for the people of florida our deep deep condolences. i hope you can mend those wounds. matt gates, thanks you for being here. senator bill nelson of florida speaking out about today's tragic school shooting. >> each time this happens -- and how many have happened. we say enough is enough. and then it happens again. so it's a tough tough day. david: it is indeed. we have a lot more coverage of the breaking news out of florida. stay with us.
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david: president trump responding to the florida shooting this afternoon tweeting out quote, my prayers and condolences to the families of the victims of the terrible florida shooting. no child, teacher or anyone else should ever feel unsafe in an american school. i spoke to governor rick scott, we are working closely with law enforcement on the terrible school shooting. the shooting canceled the daily briefing at the white house, a briefing at which they were expected to address the rob porter. joining me now, fox business
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contributor. ed, when something like this happens, it brings you back to sort of the primal meaning of what it is to have a government. a governing body. and the governing body is there to keep the worst instincts that individuals have from getting the better of society. from preventing human beings from tearing each other apart. it's the safety of whether it's people abroad who are trying to invade us or people inside the country, even if they're citizens who are trying to do damage such as we saw today. is there any chance that those governing us in washington will be able to get together and at least perform this primal purpose of a governing body. ed: if you see the people in the federal government, the bright people in the federal governmen. early in my life there was a serious problem in america with fires.
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we lost 50,000 people. they created a national fire academy modeled off the fbi academy and in turn it became part of fema. and my sense today is we need to have the best minds that we have at state, local and federal come in and say we have a very serious problem here. and it may be security. not only banning guns or psychologically taking care of these kids but how do you protect kids when you drop them off at school. we have thousands and thousands of young men in our military. we somehow use some of them to help us there. you now, many of them have been at war, we have a lot of money, a lot of effort protecting other people in other country. we need to start thinking about how to protect people in our own schools. david: it seems to be an intractable problems. since columbine it's just a perennial thing. it keeps happening, columbine, sandy hook and now douglas high school. but bringing it to a locality.
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what we saw in new york city in the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, for three decades we saw crime get worse. 2,200 murders a year in new york city. nobody thought it would do anything but keep going up. theen rudy giuliani came to crime, cracked down on the smaller crimes that led to the bigger crimes. by that crackdown, just a simple crackdown on anybody getting out of control, murders were brought down, cut in half and then cut into quarter. now we have less than 400 murders a year. from 2200 to less than 400. sit as simple -- are people making it more complicated than it has to be? ed: i think what rudy did, he had the will and the strength and the support of the police. i feel very safe. i've lived here 23 years. i see police officers everywhere. we have police officers outside of here. i welcome them. their participation in protecting my life is very
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important. and i think to a certain extent those kinds of resources need to be implemented in every school across this country. and again, state and local, it's not -- maybe you need to take the best minds of the federal with the state and local. we can't have these things every three our formonths with getting cops killed, school kids killed. how do we solve these problems and get some solutions. david: we're having an election in november. i wonder if this become as talking point in the election. ed: it becomes a talking point but it's about guns. the reality is we have guns. david: and we have gun control in some of the cities where it's most intense gun control or some of the worst crime ridden cities that we have. >> we've seen what's happened in airports. we used to worry about the bombs in airports or whatever. a little inconvenience to all of us but it stopped. we don't have that. and we just need to rethink this
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whole process here. and unfortunately the 17 people that were killed today, they won't have that option. but certainly on a day like this we need to really think bigger than we have and find of solutions. david: ed rollins, thank you turns now to wall street, stock closer higher. the dow surging 253 points, s&p up 36, the nasdaq gang 130 points. volume on the big board just under 4 billion shares. stocks shrugging off inflation after consumer prices rose 1.8% last month. the yield on the 10-year as a result of hitting the highest level in four years, closing at 2.91% up next, students and parentings recalling moments of horror after a student opened fire in a parkland high school >> i was in the freshman building. and he ran up and down the hallway just banging and shooting into the classrooms.
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he shot through my door and broke the window. >> you hear this on the news all of the time. you never think it's going to happen and it happens. david: stay with us for the latest breaking news out of florida. we're coming right back.
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david: fox news correspondent phil keating is on the scene of today's school shooting in parkland, florida. phil, good evening to you. i wish it wasn't ushe under thee circumstances. reporter: good evening, yeah. catastrophic in the words of the broward county sheriff as the community here stunned and shocked. as soon as the official word came out about a very high death toll in this worst school shooting in broward county history. broward county, county seat ft. lauderdale, sixth largest school district in the state. the high school, marjory
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stoneman doug last high school behind me, remains a crime scene. 12 fatalities inside the school remain there. a total of 17 people were shot and killed today by a person whom the sheriff, scott israel, believes has the lone gunman in custody without a motive at this point, or at least not a motive shared with anyone publicly at this point. but that suspected shooter is alive and will face the charges as well as a trial and the potential death penalty in this case. but right know we have a community that in many ways, all around the school, is on lockdown as far as traffic and roads being closed off and lives being crushed. again, 17 fatalities. it's unclear how many of those 17 are students, what their ages are and whether perhaps any teachers were also involved. but within about an hour, hour
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and 15 minutes after the shooting started, around 2:30 eastern time, just as the school day was about to end, the gunman, described by witnesses inside the school as wearing a black hat, burgundy shirt, black pants, was seen by the fox news miami wsbn helicopter in handcuffs being arrested a mile and a half away and that is exactly who the sheriff believes is the lone shooter. 12 of the fatalities happened inside the school, two others outside of the school, another fatality down the road. and two others died while being treated for their wounds in the hospital. another 15 people were taken to several hospitals in the broward county area to be treated for their wounds. it's unclear whether we're looking at 30 or 32 people, all of whom were shot or if some of the other injuries were related to the mass confusion, chaos and panic of people running out of the school to get away for their lives.
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but the school has been cleared out by the s.w.a.t. team. there are no more students inside there. students had been cowering, hiding, barricaded in their classrooms. seems recommend nes sent of columbine's massacre in the '90s in colorado. you can see the aerial photography of the students running from the school, backpacks on their backs, trying to get away. students heard pops. they thought at first they were val valentine's day balloons being popped in classrooms down the hallway. today is valentine's day but those were not balloons being popped but inside gunshots happening. and according to the sheriff, this 19-year-old suspect, nikolas cruz exspelled from this exact school in the past, apparently returned to school, not currently enrolled there, and opened fire. he was found with multiple clips of ammunition on him and at least one semi automatic rifle,
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an ar-15 which we've heard about so often in some of these other mass shooting stories. david: very quickly, i can only gather what this high school is like based on what they say on the internet. it's a big school, 3,000 students. i imagine it's somewhat of a magnet for broward county, for a lot of the communities. and it appears to be on the upper end of the scale of public schools in florida. am i correct? reporter: absolutely. the area around the school in park lond, it'land, it's upper e class, higher wealth area. a nice area, as far as the infrastructure goes. it's a school of 3,000 people. 9th through 12th grades. according to other students who are 19, 20 years old that live in the area who were stopped here as close as you could get to the school which is behind me, a quarter of a mile, they
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said it was basically your average american high school of 3,000 people. they really didn't have anything else to expand on. and nothing in the positive or negative. just your average high school. david: yep. which is exactly what they said about columbine. phil keating, thank you very much. joining me now, washington times opinion editor charlie hurt. carleycharlie, i imagine you hey conversation with phil. it's the old expression, if it can happen here, it can happen anywhere. this is america. this is not, you know, some obscure place where there's violence prone. this is a typical american high school. >> yeah. it truly, truly a tragic, tragic event. and you know, one of the things that we heard the sheriff say at the top of his press conference was, if you see something, say something. and by all likes, it appears that a lot of people said things about this guy and they talked about -- they were friends of
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his, talked about the fact that they didn't associate with him because they thought that he was a problem, that he was dangerous. he on y obviously liked guns. he had beefs with a lot of students and he was obviously suspended or expelled from this school and you know, and it raises all kinds of questions. how do -- you know, how do we start with information like that and then, you know, how do we better deal with that information so that we prevent something horrific like this where you have 17 totally innocent beautiful people whose lives are snapped short because of this one lunatic. david: very often inside the beltway, people think that, okay, if you have a problem it's because people are poor or people have disability or people have this or that. nobody -- there's not that excuse there. this is something that we have
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to confront in every community in the united states right now. >> yeah. and honestly, you know, this is my sort of weakness. every time i see a case like this, i wonder -- obviously you wonder about their psychiatric situation and you wonder about -- and my -- but my weakness is to always wonder about are they on some sort of psych tropic drugs. and a lot of times psych tropic drugs prescribed to them by doctors. we've seen a lot of cases where those things are gone awry. you're exactly right. it's something we've got to get a handle on. it's senseless. david: charlie, i'm going to have to cut you short because we've got a hard break. but we want you to come back. we had to go long with phil keating. we will bring charlie hurt back with us in the next hour. we're coming right back with the latest out of florida. roads nowhere to be found. and it's exactly what you're looking for.
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ar-15 rifle. i don't know if he had a second one. david: joining me now, former secret service agent nypd officer and president of redland strategies, dan bongino. dan, great to see you. your job was to spot lunatics with guns. this clearly was one. he got into a school that supposedly had some security apparatus, including ids. hea got into school with an ar-15. how could he do that with any kind of security at all? >> well, david, it's actually not that difficult if you take it apart to sneak it in, if you put anytime a bag. but access control is always going to be an issue. but accessed control isn't security. a ticket to a red skins game is an access to control device but not security. the con flaition of those two points is one of the things that people commonly err in.
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they confuse access control with security all of the time. david: i would think that the first thing you would want to do, based on what happened here, is to have metal detectors practically everywhere. no? >> it's not a bad idea. but again, it creates a lot of logistics problems. i know those problems seem small in light of the tragedy today but it's not as practical as it sounds. even at a secret service check point with a four-man trained uniform division team, they can only process 400 people an hour. if you have a school with 2,000 students, the logistics aren't that easy. i mean i think i can make the case to you strong think that there are other proactive security measures that you could take to -- david: tell us please. >> one of them is simple. basically having trained arm peoplearmedpeople there on the t
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can respond. think about it. an attacker in this kind of scenario. his best friend is time. he needs time. you need time to do what you're there to do. this macabre sick act. if you can reduce the response time and you have someone on campus who can stop or interrupt the shooter -- we saw this in columbine when one of the deputies pulls up outside. it stops them and distracts them for a moment. david: he had enough time to get into the school, inpack his bag if he had it in a bag and put the gun together, but after the shooting he also left the school, killed more people on his way out. so apparently he had a lot of time. >> yeah. and that's exactly my point. if we had people trained to respond to this type of thing -- remember, in places where the threat is there all of the time, places like in israel, this isn't uncommon at all to have
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trained armed school security people at school. it's a way of life. i wish it weren't the case but it is. there are other things as well. make sure you make liaison efforts with your local police department, they are blueprints of the school, make sure your camera system is up and running. make sure your teachers have a way to communicate outside of a pa system. david: dan, you're more than a former secret service guy. you got a lot of common sense about things and the way the world has become. i was talke talking to ed rollis about this. it's no secret why we're more violent, why our kids are in more danger now. we have the dissolution of the family. the family hief has changed draa dramatically. we have a terrible lack of discipline in the schools. i was a teacher in chicago. i know what that's like. we have video games, movies, television shows that all show violence. as common place and in the most unworkable way. i mean, there are so many facets
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to this society that scream out violence and that i think lead to events like this. how do you change that? >> yeah, i mean, this is an ongoing debate. i remember in graduate school in psychology, you know, the violent kids play violent video games or do video games make kids violent. the answer is, i don't really know. but i know what uie you're sayig has an element of sense to it. if we're going to bathe our kids in violent movies and video games and surround them with cultural rot everywhere we go, can we all agree it's not helping. i don't know if it's causal. but we can make the point that it is almost definitely not helping. and certainly the dissolution of the family. these are not easy fixes. there is not going to be some easy legislative red button that we tush an push and this is allo go away. doesn't work that way. coming up next, a terrifying
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scene out of florida, students running for their lives after a former student opened fire. >> one coming out that i think there's one behind a wall. >> two people dead. >> and there's one out by the wall and when we go outside there's someone on the floor and there's blood a lot. everywhere. david: more from florida when we continue. i used to. i even accept i have a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat not caused by a heart valve problem. but no matter where i ride, i go for my best. so if there's something better than warfarin, i'll go for that too. eliquis. eliquis reduced the risk of stroke better than warfarin, plus had less major bleeding than warfarin. eliquis had both. don't stop taking eliquis unless your doctor tells you to, as stopping increases your risk of having a stroke. eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. don't take eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding.
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david: flod senator marco rubio offering his cond condolence toe victims of the deadliest shooting in the history of broward county. also calling for a conversation about why tragedies like this occur. >> the facts of this case are important and as soon as more details become available, we'll have a deeper conversation about why these things are happening. but it's a day you pray will never happen. david: joining me now, fox news legal analyst greg jarrett. as i mentioned before, i used to teach in a tough area in chicago. a junior high school. one of the problems we had in ie plying discipline to the 40 kids we had in each room were legal constraints. we would realize that some kids -- of course there was before the shootings began. we realized that some kids were
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trouble but we had trouble as teachers in dealing with them. this kid, apparently the perpetrator, the suspect, we should say, clearly had problems. he demonstrated those problems with his classmates within eventually led to him getting kicked out of school. he demonstrated it on social media. were there legal constraints that would have prevented people from pointing him out to authorities? >> when a young person turns 18 and becomes an adult, there are greater legal restrictions on what law enforcement can do. david: he was 19, we should say. >> exactly. sadly enough. with a younger person there are things you can do. you can go to the law enforcement, go to the parents if they learn ababou about someg like that. at least alert the parents that you had a problem. with an adult there's very
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little you can do unless you have probable cause to believe that he had illegal guns or unregistered guns in his possession and then you can serve a search warrant. it's got to be based on probable cause. not easy to get in the alternative, again dealing with an adult, if law enforcement learns about it, they have no right to go and force the young person to talk to them. but they can try. i mean they can knock on the door, say, listen, we'd like to talk to you, some people have some concerns and so forth. you're not violating your right -- his rights if it's voluntary. and then try to encouraging him to seek some counseling and some advice and alert the parents if he's living at home. david: and alert the police. at least that would force them to keep an eye on him. i'm wondering what defines probable cause. what would give police probable cause to go in and investigate. >> they would have to have some information that would tell them that -- it's called reasonable
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suspicion that criminal activity is afoot. you know, if somebody says he showed me a picture on his cell phone of guns that he has, these look like automatic weapons, these look like illegal guns, sawed off shotguns, so forth, that would be more than enough probable cause to knock on his door and serve him with a search warrant. david: and i would think he delivered any kind of threat to anybody in public or private. >> a threat is more than enough probable cause to go after him for, you know, a variety of crimes involving threats. david: greg, at the risk -- i don't want to be insensitive to what's happening but there have been other news events taking place today and questions primarily involving the president and the investigation that robert mueller is involved with, whether or not mueller needs or can force the president to do an interview with him. what is the very latest on that?
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>> well, trump defense team is apparently making a couple of arguments. one of them is mueller has -- does not have a real basis to interview trump because he has sufficient evidence elsewhere on the subject of his inquiry. the second argument is that, you know, no crime has been committed since the fbi's original probe was an intelligence gathering probe and no crime of collusion exists. that's a very interesting and persuasive argument that might be enough to convince mueller, i don't want to battle this out in front of a federal judge. i'll agree to a compromise limiting the scope and the time of the interview. that's probably the goal of the trump team. david: greg, again, for give me for having to switch gears and focus on florida, but this clear cli is the story of the hour. good to see you. greg jarrett up next, a day of terror for
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high school students in parkland, florida. >> blood on the ground and two dead bodies in the hallway at least. >> i don't know his name. i know he's not a student. >> a teacher? >> a teacher, a couple. they weren't alive. david: stay with us for smeciall coverage continuing of the florida high school shooting. we're coming right back. nd snee] nothing relieves more symptoms than alka seltzer plus maximum strength liquid gels.
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david: mitt romney reacting to today's shooting. tweeting as a father and grandfather, my heart aches for the victims of today's violence. out of respect for the victims and their families, i will not be make an announcement tomorrow about the senate race. vince, i breathed a sigh of relief when i heard myth say that. it would have been terribly inappropriate. do you think this story in particular and good help us if there is another one, will carry over into the november election somehow. >> i think democrats will want
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to keep it alive. the news cycle moves so quickly. we see a school shooting, we should have conversations about the facts that occurred. david: public safety, particularly defending law enforcement is usually a republican issue going back to richard nixon and law and order. in this case it's so sensitive. dealing with the murder of children in their own school, whether it would be just too 10 determine a subject to bring up in a political context. >> my heart goes out to everyone who lost a loved one today. this shouldn't be a political issue. we need to talk about this in a solution-or ynlted way --
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solution oriented way. a lot of this comes down to mental health. the isla vista shooter, the mom informed the authorities. but behind closed doors he was writing violent intentions. there has been an fbi and department of education study, in a majority of them' they say the shooter communicates his intent beforehand. david: i was talking to dan bongino about how so many of the causes of these things can't be addressed in a political framework. you can't legislate for families to get closer. the video gamesser.


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