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jason katz, ubs good to have you. >> absolutely. [closing bell rings] liz: saint paddy's day tomorrow. irish green on the screen. that will do it for the claman "countdown." have a terrific weekend. david: down for the week but stocks rallying into the close. the dow higher for the second day in a row. that is good news. closing up about 57 points. we're seeing green across the korean, a fitting way to celebrate st. paddy's day. happy friday. happy st. paddy's day tomorrow. i'm david asman. trish: all those things, i'm melissa francis. here is what else we're covering during this very busy hour ahead. the clock is ticking for former fbi director an di mccabe, he is man be fired before he retires with full pension on sunday. he over his handling of the
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hillary clinton email investigation. the news could come at this hour. we'll bring it to you. russia retaliating against the u.s. for new sanctions as we get startling details of russian cyber attacks aimed at our power grid. all of is coming up. >> awe growing number of democrats denouncing hillary clinton's demeaning comments about women. all could affect in the midterms. we have harvard law professor alan dershowitz. we have a claudia rose set, jamie weinstein of the james my weinstein show and forbes media chairman, steve forbes. david: terrific lineup. the dow moving ahead led by walmart, caterpillar. nicole petallides on floor of new york stock exchange. i will take the green, nicole but we lost a little bit of steam, right? >> you're right, david.
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we came off the earlier highs. it was nice to end up with up arrows. very heavy, very much volume today. its known as quadruple-witching. options expirations happening. rebalancing on some indices. nasdaq moved higher. s&p snapping the recent losing streak of four days. that was its longest losing streak in three months. so an up arrow there. we did have winners there. ultimately ulta beauty and western dig. look at markets for the week. not having up arrows because the dow, nasdaq, s&p all finished down more than 1% this week. russell and transports finished lower. not as bad as the other three. they finished down half a percent roughly. energy is an area that a lot of people have invested in and have gotten pretty much crushed this year in 2018, down 10%, 20%,
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depending what stock you look at. today energy was the number one performer. west texas was up a buck. chesapeake, halliburton schlumberger up 1%. look at boeing has been a great performer. up 85% in the last year. worst week in two years. it is down 7% this week. down 9%. worries about the raw materials and big tariffs trading war that could ensue. last but not least technology stocks. a lot of folks have these, melissa and david. you see a lot of down arrows. a lot of traders continue to talk it is an overcrowded trade. which means it could be volatile on sentiment at anytime like it did today. back to you. david: nicole, have a great weekend. trish: we have our market panel. carol roth and. thanks for joining us you guys.
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fed fund meeting next week, fed fund futures predicting a 94% chance they think they will raise rates. what do you think, jack? >> i think it's a 95% chance. goldman was out saying we'll get four rate hikes maybe this year, four next year. we'll go up a couple points over next few years on the fed funds rate. they don't see the 10-year treasury yield moving that much. maybe a little less than half a point over that span. kind of a flattening of the yield curve. that is good, keeps financing rates modest. early period when rates rise i think it is good for the market, good for the economy. i don't think it will be a headwind. trish: carol, do you agree with with that? >> i think everybody is expecting to see a rate hike next week. most investors think we get three. some believe we get at least four. half the rate hike itself will not be an issue. what could be an issue is the language. obviously this is powell coming out, setting the tone with the
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markets. depending how that is communicated, if there is any uncertainty that the number of rate hikes could be accelerated, something like that is the type of thing that could speaking the market at least in the intermittent term so to speak. but i would say, somewhere between three and four is the expectation f we start hearing four, there will be some people who might be a little surprised about that. trish: jack what do you think about larry kudlow on the market, the kudlow effect? do you think that he, his appointment supports the market in the sense we know he is for lower taxes, less government, all the kind of things that the market tends to like? >> i wish him well. he will not be as powerful as the trump twitter effect and neither one of them are going to be as powerful as the most powerful force in the financial universe which is low interest rates and tremendous buying of assets by central banks, kept bond yields low, put investors in stocks.
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that will end at some point. we will see the end. a year or two down the road. i expect december stock market returns this year. beyond that i think it looks a little murky. trish: carol, do you agree with that? >> jack and i seem to be in pretty close agreement on that. i certainly think that having larry kudlow in there is a great thing, especially for those of us who support free markets. i certainly think if you put somebody in that position, that was perhaps more protectionist, could have had a major effect on the market but the reality is the market is balancing, having great effects of the tax cuts and what that can do to company's earnings and global growth against the backdrop of inflation and lower interest rates. so it that's delicate balance will really tell the story for the next year or two. trish: jack, real quick, consumer sentiment highest level since 2004. that is a good thing. >> that is good thing. gains came from lower income people and that is good to z
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these tax cuts i have griped, i don't think we gave enough to lower income people but we gave them some. we know if you put money in their pockets it is good for the economy. trish: thank you, guys. >> thank you. david: fine to fit the crime, an mccabe could lose his pension if attorney general jeff sessions fires him by sunday. ashley webster is here. was he recommended by internal fbi review? >> it certainly was, david. justice department inspector general michael horowitz said, yes, he should be fired. for what? well, the investigation centered on whether mccabe gave or leaked details of the investigation into the clinton foundation to a wall street reporter. now according to the inspector general, though we have not the, the actual report has not been made public he was very evasive. what the fbi said, he was not
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forthcoming. he lied what they say. now, will, will jeff sessions go ahead and fire him, take that recommendation? or will he not? he is in an awkward position, jeff sessions, but clearly the fbi says he should be fired. the question is then if he does it today or tomorrow, before sunday when mccabe would accrue a full pension, does he lose his pension? it is all a bit murky to be honest with you. there are those who say even if he fired in the next five minutes he will not lose his full pension. probably be able to take it when he turns 57. probably be a lower amount. he will probably lose access to federal health care coverage but he won't lose his entire pension. all of this is playing out as mr. trump as we know has not been a big friend of mr. mccabe. has tweeted about him, tweeting that mccabe is racing against the clock to get full benefits. does he have any legal recourse, andrew mccabe? he could file suit in district
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court in washington, d.c., and in fact claiming that the president put pressure, political pressure on jeff sessions to fire him that would be very hard to prove in court. very uncertain whether that would work but he would have that option but in the meantime we sit and wait, guys, to find out what jeff sessions does. david: when you look ad what happened to general flynn, accused of doing the same thing, he lost everything, sold his house to pay legal bills, he pled to charge similar what mr. mccabe is doing. thanks, ashley, we'll appreciate it. we'll speak to harvard professor alan dershowitz on all of this coming up. trish: cracking down on china. the trump administration releases details of the new plan to impose trade measures against china. steve forbes on what we can expect and how china is likely to respond. david: then the illegal immigrant who was charged in the death of kate steinle is now accusing the federal government
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there is a lot you learned today, phil. reporter: yeah, first and foremost there are two investigations. one by the national transportation safety board that is going to examine the engineering design of this pedestrian bridge but there is also the paramount investigation, the homicide investigation because we're dealing with six victims and that is being led by the miami-dade county police department and their top priority right now is preserving the dignity for the families of at least six people who under gorgeous blue skies like today, were just driving through the area, working on the bridge, suddenly a million pounds of concrete gave way, collapsing on all eight lanes of this very busy southwest county artery. off in the distance, you see crews there, they have been removing the non-collapsed portions of the bridge all throughout today. no longer do you see part of the bridge still up at an angle over the roadway. everything is now flat, even
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with the street. there are so much pieces of rubble. this is heavy bridge debris, so much weight still on top of eight cars known to be underthe bridge. the bodies have yet to be recovered or postively i.d.'d. all the families can only assume the loved one is if there. a local crain operator offered to lift the heavy slabs of rubble. but this will take a long, long time. an investigative go team with the ntsb just about this time all changed from the search-and-rescue to recovery one. they will probe everything, design, construction, engineering and if anyone was negligent they will absolutely face consequences. but for miami-dade police their focus is the homicide investigation which could or could not lead to criminal charges with six victims. >> our priority, which is the most critical thing is, to get to the victims, get to the
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remains of people underneath that bridge so we can take them to the proper place so that their families can have the appropriate burial and ceremonies that they want to have. reporter: and the public removal work that has been ongoing all day long has just revealed a body inside of a car that, those on the scene were able to extricate from that vehicle. so that is one of the five bodies known to be under the rubble. that has now been removed. we believe family members were here on the scene to see that happen. back to you. trish: we know one of the victims was in fact a florida international university student? reporter: yeah, we reported last night that one of the then four confirmed victims was believed to be an fiu student and we do now know thanks to the "miami herald"'s interview with orlando duras, that in fact it was an 18-year-old freshman girl, grew up in miami. she was attending classes here
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at fiu. she was in her car when the bridge collapsed on top of it, killing her. trish: so horrible, phil the thanks for the reporting. reporter: terrible, yeah. david: we want to get back to one of our top stories. former february by deputy director andrew mccabe could lose his pension and attorney general jeff sessions fires mr. mccabe for a quote, lack of candor during the interview with the hillary clinton investigation. we have alan dershowitz, author of the case against bds, why singling out israel for boycott is anti-semitic and anti-peace. counselor, good to see you, the phrase, lack of candor, people say call a spade a spade. they talk about him lying to i internal investigates about the hillary investigation. should he be fired for that? >> no. i think he should be investigated and fired after established by due process. that sounds awfully petty on the
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eve of his resignation and take away his pension after he spent years and years doing great service to the united states. i think you have to prove that case by at least a heavy preponderance or clear and convincing evidence and i haven't seen the case made that he has justifiably being fired just weeks before he intends to resign to take his pension away. david: well, the internal investigation, i don't know how extensive it was, it wasn't like there was a vendetta against him. it does seem that they had a lot of evidence that indicated that he was not being frank with them about his role in the hillary investigation. shouldn't we trust the internal investigation? >> not until i see the evidence. i never trust investigators until i see the evidence. and what does lack of candor mean? are they saying he lied directly? are they saying he wasn't forth coming? we have to know a lot more before we take away a man's pension. david: i have to move you along because we don't have a lot of
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time, general flynn, michael flynn was, pled guilty to lying to investigators. a lot of people say hey look, he did, general flynn did no worse than what mr. mccabe did and he lost everything. is that a fair comparison? >> no. he shouldn't have pleaded guilty if he wasn't guilty. he obviously pleaded guilty. that ends the matter but i haven't heard anything mccabe acknowledging or admitting anything. absent an admission i think you need proof by a heavy burden. david: the interesting thing, again forgive me, the interesting thing is, now that we have evidence peter strzok, who worked at fbi and was lead agent for the fbi and the lead agent for mr. mueller in that investigation, apparently knew the judge looking at general flynn what he was doing. there may have been some unproper, improper relationship between that judge and people that were biased against general flynn? >> look, i think strzok
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certainly should be fired, if the evidence demonstrates that he had improper contact with a judge. that he didn't recuse himself after knowing he sent messages that he had sent. his case for firing seems a lot stronger but again i would want to see the evidence. i want to see a conclusion reached but it sounds to me the case for firing strzok is much, much stronger than the case for firing mccabe. again due process is is essential before you take a way a person's -- david: i understand. one final quick question. we're getting more words from two of the witnesses that mr. mueller put up before the grand jury. one is sam nunberg who we saw in front of the television cameras, certainly appearing intoxicated, admitted so. another witness, george nader, who we find is convicted pedophile. served in prison for that. if these are the best witnesses mr. mueller can put before a
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grand jury what does that say about the investigation quickly? >> doesn't sound like a very powerful case if you have witnesses like that. they're hoping for guilty pleas. if the case goes to trial, particularly goes to trial in a fair distribute where a person can get a fair trial, not where the overwhelming number of jurors will have voted for democrats, i think then, you would see that there would not be convictions based on lack of credibility of witnesses such as the two you have just described. david: yeah. >> but prosecutors have this enormous power to get people to plead guilty even based on weakest of cases because they don't want to take a chance of through the roulette wheel and being found guilty. the criminal justice system disencourages people going to trial to prove their innocence. david: andrew napolitano agrees with you. good stuff. appreciate it.
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>> thank you. trish: targeting trade. president trump threatening tariffs on at least $30 billion of chinese imports. why analysts fear retaliation. plus building off the momentum of tax cuts. details of phase two of those tax cuts could be on the way. steve forbes, forbes media chairman coming up next. >> it is obvious that there is something wrong with our trade relations when they are this asymmetric. ♪ more and more people have discovered something stronger... more dependable... longer lasting. in a chevy truck. and now, you can too. see why chevrolet is the most awarded and fastest growing brand the last four years overall.
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david: president trump cracking down on bad trade deals and so-called abusive practices by the chinese government, putting $30 billion of tariffs on chinese imports. for more here is hillary vaughn from the white house. reporter: we're looking at how tariffs are playing into the white house's national security strategy. sarah sanders confirming at the briefing in the last hour they are currently involved with
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one-on-one talks with different countries who are hoping to get a carveout from the steel and aluminum tariffs. one of those specifically, the eu, rolled out a list of products that they're threatening to tax in return but sanders saying today that nothing is set in stone yet. >> the president will continue fighting for the american worker. he is also working with a number of individual countries and negotiating on areas of national security where we can work together and there is some flexibility there and we're continuing to have those conversations and will continue through the next part of the, end of next week which is when i believe the deadline happens. reporter: the white house is expected to slap down more tariffs on china oaf american intellectual property theft. no timeline yet but reports say the crackdown targeting $30 billion in chinese imports could come as early as next week. this comes a day after the white house singled out several russian organizations and individuals, slapping them with more sanctions.
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congressman mac thornberry, the chairman of the armed services committee, floating the idea this could be a first step in the economic squeeze against russia, saying the u.s. should consider helping european allies wean themselves off russian energy. saying that could stall a key part of russia's economy that would put even more pressure on putin and some of his friends. as the white house continues these negotiations with allies over tariff, both russia and china are expected to be the center of the conversation. sanders saying that the deadline hits at the end of next week. so what comes out of those negotiations david, could be key to our strategy overseas. david? david: hillary vaughn, thank you very much from the white house. melissa. trish: are president trump's promised tariffs on china a negotiating tactic? i wrote about this in my op-ed in the "wall street journal." so sweet, david. the art of the steel tariffs. here so react, steve forbes, forbes media chairman.
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basically the argument was, president trump doesn't love tariffs. you slap them on to get somebody's attention and it is about negotiating all around the world for, against trade deals that he hasn't been in favor of, that haven't had great terms. china is a place where we lost a ton of intellectual property where there isn't level trading. first do you agree that it's a tactic and do you think it will work? >> i think he believes in tariffs. trish: you do? >> yes. you also pointed out in that article willing to back off if he thinks he is getting something in return. one doesn't contribute the other and the key thing is are we telling the chinese, giving them, one, two, three, here are the areas where you have abuses. here is where we want corrections. trish: yeah. >> if we don't, we'll take some actions. this has to be coupled with more military presence in that region saying you will not turn the south china sea into international waters into a chinese lake. we'll find out in a week. will this work with the european
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union in terms of as you said at the end of the article, you quoted the president, you can have all of this hoopla stuff but at the end of the day do you get results? if you don't people catch on. is he getting results from the eu avoid a trade war which we both lose because both our economy was be hurt. trish: yeah. >> we'll see if this works in the international sphere in the next seven days. trish: because you have to be willing, any negotiation, you have to be willing to walk away from the table, you have to be willing to truly follow through with whatever your threat is. >> that is, and that is why you have to be very, very careful. trish: yes. >> because they can hurt us in very particular areas, sensitive political states. walking away, yes, that is what ronald reagan did in reykjavik 30 years ago in mikhail gorbachev. they had a great agreement, then don't develop anti-miss sell defense systems. yeah, we're not close to it anyway, give it away. reagan said no. he walked away. everyone criticized him.
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he was right and we won the cold war. when you go in as obama discovered don't say red line unless you mean it. trish: yeah. >> have you thought through step by step like a chess game. what if they do that, what if they do this. i imagine we can make some progress. trish: this is the way he is negotiating his entire life we have to prepared for he have route come. >> people feel backed into a corner or can't publicly say look like they're backing down. then you are going to force them to do what neither of you want them to do. so if you given them a face-saving, face is very big especially in asia. if you give them a way they can say, we got what we wanted or we got something so it doesn't look like they were forced to back
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down. melissa: yeah. >> the chinese are very sensitive. what the europeans did to them in the 1800s, constantly humiliated, humiliated with japan. you have to give them a way you get what you want from them and they say okay, we got something in return. melissa: interesting. that is great analysis. that is really true. house ways and means committee chairman kevin brady sharing more details on tax reform, round two. listen. >> we'll build off the momentum of the first tax cuts and reform because that growth is occurring now. paychecks are going up. we think we can do more. we think we can do more to help families stretch their budgets further. we think we can do more on innovation. because at end of the day, look the country that wins innovation race wins the future. we want american workers and american companies doing that. melissa: whoo-hoo. what do you think? >> why didn't they say this six months ago? melissa: yeah. >> that is what they have to emphasize. what happened with the tax cuts,
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president signed in december is a down payment of more to come. that is what they have to go with in the fall, start to spell out. here are good things if we maintain the house. take the initiative on offense, instead of being about issues, headlines of the day, letting democrats set the agenda which is what happened in pennsylvania which is why they lost that key congressional race. melissa: what about this crazy idea they want to impose an internet tax in order to -- >> yeah, comics say democrats, evil party, are stupid party. republicans live up to that moniker. proposing a crazy tax they backed off. tax should not be part of republican vocabulary. melissa: ever, of. >> only cuts. melissa: i'm glad we straighten that out. >> kevin brady gets. melissa: i think so. david: swamp republicans is the
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phrase for republicans that want to raise taxes. federal officials warning of russian attacks on your doorstep. find out what authorities are saying about that. melissa: plus are we in a new cold war? the back and forth between the kremlin and west entering a new phase of hostilities. more on that next.
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melissa: the trump administration calling out russia for launching cyber attacks on america's power grid.
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deirdre bolton has the details. >> so, melissa, a report from the department of homeland security and the fbi says russia has been leading cyber attacks against the u.s. since at least march 2016. so the targets, american electrical, nuclear, water, aviation, critical manufacturing properties. director for the security firm symantec says that russian state hackers have what they needed to manipulate or shut down american power plants. in fact when i spoke with the director earlier. he said all that is miss something political motivation. so if there is civil unrest in the u.s. it could be made worse by shutting down a water system or an electrical grid or unrest could be caused by a shutting down a water civil or electrical grid. american officials and private companies say russia successfully attacked ukrainian power grid back in 2015 and the proof, 200,000 citizens, actually slightly more, lost
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power in the ukraine more than a few days. energy secretary rick perry using really strong words earlier included warfare. he was in a hearing yesterday. i will quote him here, cyber attacks are literally happening hundreds of thousands of times a day. the warfare in cyberspace is real, it is serious, and we must lead the world. u.s. treasury department issued sanctions in the past 24 hours on russian groups and individuals who allegedly have been involved in massive cyber attacks. sometimes this naming and shaming can serve as deterrent but a lot of diplomats telling me that is not really going to stop russia doing what it wants to you. melissa, back to you. melissa: no it's not. deirdre, thank you. david: we have claudia rossette, former moscow bureau chief for "wall street journal." currently foreign policy fellow at independent women. claudia, you know the way the kremlin works. will this do anything to change
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behavior? >> no. this is a much bigger, much bigger picture. we need to establish worldwide deterrents. that is it where we are right now. david: peter king, the congressman suggested we target individuals who are associated with putin directly. let's play the sound bite, get your response. >> i think there should be stricter sanctions certainly on anything involving russia's defense industry. i think that we should go more after people closer to putin, people around him. david: would that do any good? >> by all means do it. i don't think it would hurt but i wouldn't rely on it for a second to solve this. it is one piece of it. david: let's talk about something else that is related but it is a real mystery about these go people who were poisoned in england. >> yeah. david: it looks now it was a nerve agent that bears a lot of similarity to what happened to kim jong-un's brother in the incident in malaysia. >> yeah. david: i believe we have tape we obtained from fuji tv.
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we can play that. it is of the actual poisoning itself. it took place in an airport. do you see any connection between the way in which kim jong-un poisoned his brother and the way these two people were poisoned in england? >> yes. of course, it was incredibly brazen, in your face in the case of kim jong-un's half-brother. we wait to hear how it was administered. david: this is poisoning of kim jong-un's brother in malaysia a couple months ago but go ahead. >> what it says. it is not trying to be private or secret. it is in your face. there was no way that the british could mistake it for anything except a russian attack. the russia says we had nothing to do with it. that is just not credible. in both cases what it is telling world, we have this ability. anyone who crosses us can be terrified that this will happen. david: it is also telling us else, everybody thinks china big player with regard to
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north korea. they are the ones we've been putting pressure on. >> yeah. david: but is there a russia-north korea axis? >> absolutely. one of the first things vladmir putin did when he replaced boris yeltsin and rose to power in 2000 was was mend ryelations ryelation -- relations with north korea. which fell apart after the cold war despite what obama mocked romney about. when the cold war ended, russia stopped supplying subsidies. they fell out. russia looked down on north korea. vladmir putin very early on set about fixing that. he hosted kim jong-un's father, kill jong ill, then the dictator in north korea at kremlin in moscow. he restored honor guard at lenin's tomb to mark the visit of the north korean tyrant and he went to north korea. david: you have symbolic gestures, if you look at
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poisoning happened in england, you have some forensic evidence there may be a connection with russia and north korea. they learn from each other. they see what you could get away with. north korea did horrific assassination. what price did they pay? more sanctions. kim jong-un is in power. tested more nuclear tests and intercontinental ballistic missile tests for all our scolding. putin knows that. david: for having sanctions that don't do anything you need something tougher. >> yes. start rebuilding the military. we need a credible deterrent that was squandered over the past decade. david: claudia, good to see you. thank you very much. melissa. melissa: illegal immigrants are not getting kicked out of california. they're getting hired. we'll explain why. the man found not guilty of murdering kate steinle is now suing the federal government. that is all coming next week.
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melissa: as the trump administration is cracking down on undocumented immigrants the california is hering them. william la jeunesse has details on the controversial move. william. reporter: in a challenge to president trump, give undocumented workers a greater voice in government the state of california appointed a attorney elizabeth matteo, 33-year-old illegal immigrant to a statewide committee. he called mateo core rain just and dedicated for those seeking rightful place in this country. matteo came to the u.s. from mexico at age 14. she tweeted i look forward to working with the rest of the student aid commission to increase accessibility of postsecondary educational opportunities for low income students. federal law says it is unlawful for any person or entity to hire, recruit or refer for employment in the u.s. an alien,
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knowing the alien is unauthorized. i.c.e. enforces that law every day, going after 7-eleven, even fining one company $98 million for hiring undocumented workers. so is california guilty? well, this is not a paid position. matteo appears however entitled to reimbursement for travel expenses and possibly a stipend when out of town but this is california. it already allows undocumented immigrants to practice law, to get a driver's license, to receive in-state tuition, welfare and legal aid. now it is unlikely the department of justice will pursue matteo. she is a low priority compared to the many criminal aliens in california and those with outstanding deportation orders but as it stands now, she will now begin her position with the state next week. back to you. melissa: william, thank you for that. >> in a related story that is outraging many people, illegal immigrant jose garcia zarate was
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hand ad not guilty verdict for killing kate steinle. he is suing the federal government for the gun charges they brought against him after the steinle verdict. his lawyer say the gun charges were politically motivated because he is an illegal immigrant and had been deported five times. who knows, melissa, he could actually win. melissa: yeah. absolutely. david: this is california. melissa: taxpayers would be paying. that is amazing. still failing to understand what americans want, hillary clinton isn't just attacking our commander-in-chief. she has a new target, all of you, the american people. the backlash is next. ♪ ♪ with expedia one click gives you access to discounts on thousands of hotels, cars and things to do. like the avalon hotel beverly hills for 40% off. everything you need to go. expedia.
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melissa: out of touch with the nation. democrats now calling out hillary clinton for these comments. >> if you look at the map of the
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united states there is all that red in the middle where trump won. i win the coasts. i win, you know, illinois and minnesota, places like that. so i won the places that -- [applause] are optimistic, diverse, dynamic, moving forward and his whole campaign, make america great again, was looking backwards. david: hmmm. melissa: i mean there is so much to that because you know, on one hand what she is saying is if you're rich, you're sophisticated and you know to vote for me. david: right. melissa: and she is also pointing out although she doesn't realize it, the fact that there is a bunch of america, it is all about the purse. you know, cities where things have gone backwards because of government and where incomes have dropped, people feel left behind and they were looking for a different message. and it is like that doesn't sink in. david: the irony of what happened over the previous eight
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years, before president trump took office is that the rhetoric was always running counter to what was actually happening on the ground. you had all the rhetoric about the distance between the richest and poorest. melissa: right. david: you had policies that increased the distance. melissa: right. david: you had all the talk about difference between racial minorities and the majority, yet you had that distance grow even further, despite or i would argue because of policies that created more distance. now, you have the extraordinary thing, if there is, a closing of that gap between the richest and the poorest. there is the closing of the gap between minorities and the white majority in the united states, again, i would argue it is the free market, a move towards free market policies leading to what democrats like hillary clinton and obama said they wanted. melissa: she also said that democrats don't do well with married white women because they feel pressured by their
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husbands, their bosses and their sons. david: you go with that. what do you think? melissa: vote the way they want. i'm not sure i have ever been so insulted. i mean i just, amazing to me that she thinks she is a feminist leader and she is telling me that i, i'm a white married woman, that i feel pressured by my son to vote the way he wants me to vote and my husband? are you kidding? how many, husbands ironically we hear from felt pressured when they went into the booth to vote for her by their wives and didn't do it. we heard that story over and over. that is anecdotal but ironic because, it just, i don't know if she gets it. david: that is extraordinary that went over the line for a lot of democrats who it come out and say we can no longer get behind her. so the democrats will search for a new personality, that is clear. but what is not clear whether hillary clinton is going to keep her mouth shut. melissa: yeah. david: one, she wants to make
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more money doing these tours. two, she wants a part in the way the party goes, if she does that, continue to speak out, i think she is digging the hole deeper a hole that democrats are trying desperately to get out of. melissa: yeah, amazing. wow. anyway st. patrick's day hours away. if you're dishing out the dough to celebrate you're not alone. that's next. ♪ ...
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david: we have an update on that deadly bridge collapse in miami-dade miami, miami-dade police tweeting out "we do not intend to hold another media briefing or news conference until after 8:00 a.m. tomorrow. all updates will be issued on
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our social media channels." of course a lot of discussion about what was going on that led to the collapse whether there was a stress test going on, i mean, just somebody made a big error somewhere, a deadly error. melissa: and they also pointed out the fact that it was that first ride on the train also where they had that in florida as well and the commonality between that and new construction and a new train and not enough testing. i mean it's just in credible. david: let's switch to something a little better. melissa: little happier america isn't just wearing green it's spending it too. americans are planning on spending a record $5.9 billion to sell brought st. patricks day tomorrow according to the national retail federation i don't know if i believe that. david: that's a lot of money the projection is up from last years $5.3 billion more than 149 million americans are expected to spend an average of $39.65 this holiday. melissa: how are they calculat ing that? david: i don't know but the
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first time i came to new york city i walked out of a subway it was st. patties day imagine that being the first thing for those who don't know what happens here you don't want to know. melissa: people are wandering around every where drunk and it's really crazy on that note here is risk & reward. >> i think he should go to jail if you're going to prosecute manafort, online on the substantive charge of lying to the fbi the very least the fbi should do is tell their own inspector general the truth. if the russia investigation includes the case name people are saying we got to meet in andy's office to discuss our backup plan but you can not be the guy that fires people for lying to your agency and then lie to your inspector general. liz: countdown to potential justice department decision to fire deputy fbi director andrew mccabe for allegedly lying about fbi disclosure lying to the wall street journal

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