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stoltenberg. he will be on you're world in 4:00 p.m. eastern time. -- "your world." whether the is president is really thinking about the north koreans are not really serious about meetings. the back and forth goes on. we're told the meeting is still on. cheryl casone through the next hour. cheryl: neil, we have lot of breaking news through this hour clear hearing comments that u.n. does not want the summit. we'll bring the tape as we soon as we get it. all this tit-for-tat, north korea or nafta or china trade happening. the duh is down 54 points.
nasdaq and s&p are lower there is breaking news. president trump is blasting investigation as you can imagine on twitter. he called it the greatest witch-hunt in american history. is the president right? we'll talk with judge napolitano where we're with the mueller probe. we're following it closely. he is the guy to ask. we have president trump's top economic advisors. they're holding trade talks with their chinese counterparts today. president trump signaling this week, he is willing to work on a deal with the chinese telecom company zte, this has to be part
of a larger trade deal with china. there is back and forth going on. will the two countries strike some sort of a deal? yeah, let's talk about nafta for a second. we have the latest intel on all of the trade deals because nafta is in another completely different place than the chinese trade talks are right you no. all of this is a set-up to blake burman at the white house where president trump is meeting with the nato secretary-general. doesn't sound like nato is on the president's mind today, blake. reporter: going to say, i hope i don't have to get into all of that, cheryl. we have a lot going on here at the white house. but issue number one very clearly is north korea. the president right now is meeting in the oval office with nato secretary-general jens stoltenberg. the meeting is brought in, the president was asked about north korea. he said, maybe kim jong-un doesn't want a summit. at this point the united states hasn't been told anything on a way forward. the feeling that you get at the white house today is what we
heard yesterday, really what we heard the last couple weeks, we'll see what happens. kind of been the line out of the president and this administration over last couple weeks that was reiterated by press secretary sarah sanders moments ago. listen. >> the president is prepared and will be ready to meet and we're continuing to move forward with the preparations at this point and if north koreans want to meet we'll be there. and at this point there is not a lot of change beyond that and certainly not in our process. reporter: however kellyanne conway told us earlier this morning that the summit could indeed happen but she suggested maybe it happen after the scheduled date of june 12th. >> it may not happen quickly. it may happen later but this president is ready if everything is on track. reporter: so, we will see. what we expect to hear from the president in this tape playback minutes from now. by the way i mentioned he is meeting with the nato
secretary-general. of issues there the president called for other nato nations to increase their defense spending. you can bet north korea was on the agenda as well, cheryl. cheryl: certainly. what kind of deal does north korea want? is that something that will be acceptable to president trump? the two side seem pretty far apart at this point. blake, thank you very much. a lot to cover out of the white house today, like every day for you. let's bring in retired u.s. navy captain chuck nash to get his perspective on everything we're hearing right now. i want to let you know we're waiting on the tape play back as out viewers get to know very well from the white house. we may have to interrupt you. what do you make of the comments from the president and kellyanne conway more importantly, about the timing of the summit from the north koreans? >> they're consistent, cheryl. we're not the one that asked for a deal. the north koreans are the ones asking for a deal and what are they willing to give up? one thing that president trump is not going to do is make a deal like the iran deal which he
just recently pulled out of because it was a bad deal. so if he pulled out of that, the last thing you can expect from him is to, you know, be like a trout on a lure and dive on some bad deal. >> i mean the deal that the north koreans seem to be pointing to, getting from north koreans and their news agency, they want it to be a phased-in slower process where the north koreans slowly denuclearize. i have to push back on one thing here, we know the nuclear site from several reports, they have not confirmed, almost destroyed i guess three weeks ago. what kind of negotiation can the north koreans do if they actually don't have nuclear capabilities anymore? we can't confirm this but a lot of reports say that test site is almost demolished? >> the operative word is test, it's a test site. we don't know how many nuclear weapons they constructed and
have in being. they are a nuclear power. we can admit that without giving anything away. the issue becomes what is it that kim need where he feels comfortable backing away from the edge of the cliff? what we don't want, we don't want him to continue down this militarization of taking those warheads, those nuclear weapons, and literally putting them in a position where he's testing not nuclear weapons, he's testing ballistic missiles that can deliver the nuclear weapons. we're trying to back him away from that. >> missiles as far as we know are in working order. that is great point. glad you brought that up. what do you make of the rhetoric from the regime? pass advisors from previous presidents told us over and over you can not trust the north koreans and can't trust them to do what they say and you can't trust them when they make a promise. do you think we'll get more
empty rhetoric and empty promises from kim jong-un if the summit happens and it's a big if? >> if the summit happens that is comb plightly different thing. i don't think president trump is willing to take anybody's word in north korea for anything. history has shown out that is not a good play. if you're an player you look for inspection regime that is very intrusive and the other thing you're probably going to look for is to give north korea the comfort. they already pointed out. first foreign minister came out and said, national security advisor john bolton, says you have to take the libyan version of this and completely denuclearize. you know, kim jong-un is sitting up there, what happened to moammar gadhafi when he gave up his nukes? cheryl: right. >> there has to be some kind of a process where it is intrusive, it is inspected, verified but leads towards eventual
denuclearization with the proviso that perhaps china enters into a mutual defense treaty with north korea. we already have one with south korea. so, therefore you have two superpowers guarantying the political entities of north and south. then let them work out the eventual rue unification. cheryl: do you think china is weaker or stronger negotiating now when it comes to north korea? we've never seen -- this is what president trump has done, we have never seen pressure like this put on north koreans and chinese to basically stop their activities. we know for decades that the chinese protected north korea particularly because it's a labor force they can utilize in china. they have done that for decades. that, sr. with the human rights abuses have come from frankly, the stories that we see. so where is china all of this now? do you think china is more of an ally to us now than they were? >> i think they're in a stronger position vis-a-vis negotiation because the united states is counting on them to do something.
so there is a little bit of leverage there. the other thing with the north koreans is, they don't want a bunch of starving people trying to swim across the river to come to their borders. the other thing north korea exports a tremendous amount of their coal directly to china and china needs that coal. the other thing is, the north koreans have five hydroelectric dams, four of which supply power to china. only one, one dam's worth of electricity gets into the hermit kingdom of the so that is why it is dark out there. cheryl: again the economic sanctions. we have put more economic pressure on north korea, this administration has, big piece has been the treasury secretary and the treasury department, more so than we've ever seen with past presidents. >> yeah and those things normally take time to work. that is just it. sanctions are like a diet. you don't lose 20-pound overnight. it's a consistent thing t takes time. you have to work at it. the danger is, that you take
them off too soon. if you do, don't expect any results. >> you know, before we let you go, we're expecting the president again at any moment, these comments, actually, let's go to the president right now and listen. [inaudible conversations]. >> thank you very much it is an honor to have secretary-general stoltenberg with us, nato has been working very closely with the united states. our relationship is very good. together we've increased and really raised a lot of money from countries that weren't paying or weren't paying a fair share. we have a little ways to go but
many billions of dollars of additional money has been raised. i really appreciate the great job that you're doing. as most people know you've been extended for a long period of time. and i was very much at, i think with my leadership and, really, the fact is, we pushed it very hard because this gentleman does a tremendous job at nato, and i appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you so much. thank you so much, mr. president for hosting me and my delegation once again here at the white house and let me thank you for the leadership you show on the issue of the defense spending because it is very important that we all contribute more to our shared security and it is really having an impact because as you said allies are now spending more on defense. all allies are increasing their defense budgets. and -- >> do you give me credit for that? >> you have helped do that because your leadership has been
important and it has had a real impact. we see that because all of our allies increase and billions, to add billions to the budgets. that is important because we live in a more unpredictable world. then we need strong tate know and we need to invest security -- nato. >> thank you very much for being here. >> mr. president, north korea -- >> nothing has changed on north korea that we know of. we have not been told anything. if it does, that's fine. if it doesn't, i think we'll probably have a very successful meeting but we have not been told anything. we're just read, we're just reading stories like you are. we heard certain things from south korea but we'll see what happens. if the meeting happens, it happens. and if it doesn't, we go on to the next step. >> is this just typical thing that north korea does? did you expect that? >> i really don't know. i want to give everybody the benefit of the doubt. i think that, i can only say, our people are literally dealing
with them right now in terms of making arrangements for the meeting. so that's a lot different than what you read but often times what you read, if it is not fake news is true. we'll see what happens. we are dealing with them now. we may have the meeting, we may not have the meeting. if we don't have it, that will be very interesting. we'll see what happens. the border is still quite strong. i think things changed a little bit when they met with china. they met a second time as you know. kim jong-un had a second meeting with china which was a little bit of a surprise meeting. and we have many chinese here today, big delegations negotiating trade because the united states has been ripped off for many, many years but its bad trade deals. i don't blame china. i blame our leadership from this country from the past. we have been ripped off by china. an evacuation of wealth like no country has ever seen before, given to another country that
rebuilt itself based on a lot of money they have taken out of the united states. that is not going to happen anymore. but there has been a big difference since they had the second meeting with president xi. with that being said my attitude whatever happens happens. either way we'll be in great shape. >> would you consider a personal outreach to kim to keep him moving towards -- >> we'll see what happens. you have to want to do it. with deals, that's what i do, with deals you have to have two parties that want to do it. he absolutely wanted to do it. perhaps he doesn't want to do it. perhaps they spoke with china. that could be right. president xi, a friend of mine, great guy, but he is more china and i'm for the united states. that is the way it is and i suspect it is never going to the change but i will say this, we are continuing to negotiate in terms of location. the location that is, where to meet, how to meet, rooms, everything else. they have been negotiating like
nothing happened. but if you read the newspapers maybe it won't happen. i can't tell you yet. i will tell you very shortly. we're going to know very soon. steve? >> what will you tell chinese trade officials here? >> we've been telling china -- you people have been covering trade, you've been covering china, you've before covering everything a long time. have you ever seen a negotiating of trade? nobody has ever seen anybody from our country even negotiate on trade, trade with china and with other countries. i'm not just blaming china. china is the biggest. but trade has been a total one-way street. right outside of this nation you take money out by the bucket loads into others, whether it is european union, which you know so well, whether it is japan or south korea, i could name almost every single country in the world. we had nobody representing us. now you have somebody that is very good at this stuff, me,
representing us, and china has taken out hundreds of billions of dollars a year from the united states. and, i explained to president she, we can't do that anymore. we just can't do that anymore. it's a much different situation. but, with all of the years and all the years that you have covered trade and nations and wars and everything else, you have never seen a people come over from china to work on a trade deal. now will that be successful? i tend to doubt it. the reason i doubt it is because klein -- china has become very spoiled. the european union has become very spoiled, other countries have become very spoiled because they got 100% of what they wanted from the united states. we can't allow that to happen. we're an incredible country. we have incredible potential. the potential we have is incredible. we lost $800 billion on trade
last year, if you add it all up, of which china was around the 500 billion-dollar mark. so we lost $800 billion, can you believe that? is than an amazing thing to think about? we lost $800 billion on trade. we're not going to be doing that any longer. >> [inaudible] what is happening with zte? >> zte, was a company i spoke to with president she. he asked me if i would take a look at that because it was harmful to them in terms of their jobs and probably other things. i certainly said i would. i asked him to do it and i would certainly do that i have great respect. i like him. he likes me. we have a great relationship. he asked me to look at zte. don't forget it was my administration, with my full knowledge put very strong clamps on zte. it wasn't anybody else. it wasn't president obama. it wasn't president bush. it was me. i put very strong clamps on zte. they did very bad things to our
country. they did very bad things to our economy. one thing i will say, they also buy a large portion of their parts for the phones they make. they're the fourth largest company in terms of that industry. they buy those parts from the united states. that is a lot of business. so we have a lot of companies that won't be selling those parts. but the president of china, president xi, asked me to look at it. i said i would look at it but anything we do with zte is always, it is just a small component of the overall deal. i can only tell you this. we're going to come out fine with china. hopefully china is going to be happy. i think we will be happy. and as the expression goes, when you are losing $500 billion a year on trade, you can't lose the trade war. you have already lost it. we had horrible representatives in this country that have allowed other countries to get away with murder. and those days are gone.
those days are over. so we just want fairness for the workers of this country and for the united states. that's what is going to happen. okay? i will let you know as time goes by, we'll let you know, as of this moment, everything we know, i mean north korea is actually talking to us about times and everything else. as though nothing happened. will it happen? will we be going on that very special date and can some great things happen? you know. we'll be looking at it very soon. yeah, steve? >> [inaudible] >> yeah. well, the libyan model is not a model we have at all when we're thinking of north korea. in libya we decimated that country. that country was decimated. there was no deal to keep gadhafi. the libyan model that was mentioned this would be a
different deal. kim jong-un, he would be there, he would be running his country. his country would be very rich. his people are tremendously industrious. if you look at south korea, this would be really a south korean model in terms of their industry, in terms of what they do. they're hard of working incredible people, but the libyan model was a much different mod did he. with we decimated that country. we never said to gadhafi, oh, we're going to give you protection. we're giving you military strength. we're giving you all these things. we went in and decimated hill. we did the same thing with iraq. whether or not we should have have, i can tell you i was against it from the beginning. look what we have right now, we spent $7 trillion, can you believe that? $7 trillion in the middle east right out the window. you might as well throw the money right out the window. and we've done a lot of infrastructure. we just had airports approved. you saw that, a lot of things are happening but we spent
$7 trillion in the middle east and look where we are right now? it is pretty sad. but the, the model, if you look at that model with gadhafi, that was a total decimation. we went in there to beat him. now that model would take place if we don't make a deal most likely. but if we make a deal, i think kim jong-un is going to be very, very happy. i really believe he is going to be very happy but this is just the opposite. and i think when john bolton made that statement he was talking about if we're going to be having a problem. because we can not let that country have nukes. we just can't do it. so that is the way it meant. just the opposite. because if you look, again you look at syria, that was a total decimation. yes? >> what security guaranties are you willing to give -- >> we're willing to do a lot and he is willing, to do i think at lo also and i think we'll
actually have a good relationship we have the meeting, assuming something comes of it. he will get protections that were very strong. syria never had protections. if you look at -- or look anywhere around the middle east. you look at iraq. you look at libya, with libya certainly they didn't have protection. they had the exact opposite. that was absolute decimation. that is what we planned to do. that is what we did. >> reduce u.s. troop levels in south korea possibly? >> i'm not going to talk about that. we are going to say he will have adequate protection. we'll see how it all turns out. i think this, the best thing he could ever do is make a deal. i have a feeling, however, that for various reasons maybe including trade, because maybe they never had this problem before, china had never had this problem with us it could very well be he is influencing kim jong-un. we'll see what happens. meaning, the president of china, president xi, could be
influencing kim jong-un. but we'll see. that is -- just look, if you remember a few weeks ago all of a sudden out of nowhere kim jong-un went to china to say hello again a second time to president xi. i think they were dedicating an aircraft carrier paid for largely by the united states, thank you very much, everybody. >> please go out this way. start making your way towards the door. [shouting] >> thank you. thank you. >> time to go. it's time to go. please start exiting. cheryl: this all playing out in the oval office just moments ago. that tape just coming into fox business. he was sitting there next to nato secretary-general jens stoltenberg. nato talked about.
talking about north korea and china. we're talking with retired captain chuck nash. captain nash, i want to bring you in. what we were speaking about before we heard from the president himself, the relationship with president kim jong-un and china. are they putting pressure on kim jong-un? the president said well, we'll see what happens. we're still ready to talk but we'll see if the summit even goes forward? >> he is not trying to push this thing because, again, he doesn't want a deal like iran, that he had to get us out of because it was so bad. he is not going to create another one of those things. the chinese realize that right now kim jong-un, the way he has been behaving he is really bad for business and the chinese is all about business. they are also about the fact that as long as kim jong-un keeps acting out, that is putting pressure on the japanese to get more militant and to take out the self-defense only
portion of their constitution. if you look at the history of that region, the koreans, the chinese, filipinos, everybody in that region has a lot to fear from a militaristic japan. cheryl: on the business side, what we were listening to, talking about zte, president xi certainly cares what happens to zte, that is part of the negotiation, a more master plan if you will, president trump said it is a piece of it. he asked commerce secretary wilbur ross to look at zte. with zte breaking agreements, being basically banned from doing business with the united states that is negotiating point we maybe have in our favor. captain nash, thank you for standing by, being patient with us. we appreciate your time. >> my pleasure, cheryl. cheryl: we'll take a quick break. we'll be right back. e're busy. e're busy. auto insurance,
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so far no sign of a deal in sight. there may not be one. sources say the trump administration is not optimistic a deal will done today or in the future. instead the white house is shifting focus with trade negotiations in china. as top u.s. officials meet with chinese counterparts, that is happening right now. president trump moments ago saying the u.s. is being ripped off by china. any deal regarding chinese telecom company zte will be part of a much larger trade agreement. let the deal-making begin. we have arizona congressman andy biggs to discuss all of this. congressman, what did you make of the president's comments from the oval office about the trade talks with the chinese? more tough rhetoric about the chinese, frankly, yes, ripping us off. >> he said they have been basically ripping us off like you say and very colorful language and very strong, tough
language. i think he's right though because there has been a massive wealth transfer out of this country and we have a massive trade deficit but i hope he will multitask. while at the same time we have to get something done with china, i think that will take a lot longer time than nafta, but we also need to resolve nafta issues, such as automobiles and point of origin of automobiles. these are severe and serious, complex issues, that are going to take some time. i understand we didn't make the deadline. i wish we would have made the deadline but it is going to go on. cheryl: we had, justin trudeau here in new york earlier this, couple hours ago actually on fox business talking about, he seemed pretty optimistic about getting somewhere on nafta but what he didn't like was the idea of the sunset clause. he was very clear about the five-year sunset clause. do you think that is sticking point why we don't have any news on nafta today? >> well the sunset clause, you know, there is pros and cons to it, and i think it is an okay
thing it means you will have a review. that is necessary to make sure the agreement goes well out there, but what i think really, what i'm hearing they're focusing on today is automobiles and, what is the point of origin. you have pieces parts going across all three borders. who is going to be basically credited or debited with that particular automobile? cheryl: well he did say to our own correspondent there here in new york, he was here in new york speaking but he is feeling positive about this. that is on nafta. i want to go back with china to you. the president made interesting comments about zte, the telecom company out of favor with the united states because of -- we heard multiple analysts and congressman and senators say they believe zte is a national security risk. it is another way for the chinese to spy and steal intellectual property from companies and spy on americans. that is the rhetoric if you will. the president said that zte is
just one of the issues and he wants secretary ross to look into it but he also doesn't seem to think that zte is really the crux of the deal with china. if it is not zte what is it? >> well i think overall you're looking at everything from steel to actually even concrete. i mean you're looking at a broad-based package because we are so interlocked with our economy now. even zte as the president pointed out, we've got american companies manufacturing parts, sending them over to china. they're manufacturing, final manufacturing bringing them back. with, it looks like maybe so they could spy on americans and so that's a big problem. i mean, so that's going to go on. that is a big issue. cheryl: ask anybody in the intelligence community they do not touch anything that has zte mark on it. i want to talk about the other issue here. this tit-for-tat with china, this is difficult and i know that delegation from china was on the hill yesterday and today. they met with orrin hatch.
they met with congressman brady. what are you hearing about, what is kind of the, as far as congress goes in general, what have you heard as far as reception on your end from the chinese and overtures to congressional leaders in the last 48 hours? >> i think things are going well. i think there is a open dialogue that is going to happen. i think everybody is very, being very gracious, both sides. we're not getting the same bellicosity you might get from higher-ups. people on the hill are welcoming them. let's discuss it, to see if we can sort through our problems because we want to sort through the problems. america prospers when we trade as well. cheryl: some of you and your colleagues and people that live in the states you represent have a lot hanging in the balance especially the as cultural sector another part of the country, but arizona as well. congressman biggs, thanks for joining us. we know you have to vote and got to run of the thanks for sticking around? my pleasure. cheryl: we'll be right back.
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cheryl: president trump brassing special counsel robert mueller's russia probe as the investigation officially enters year two today. the president tweeting in part, congratulations america, we are now into the second year of the greatest witch-hunt in american history and there is is still no collusion and no obstruction. this though as president trump's lawyer, rudy giuliani, says mueller has nothing on the president, it is time to wrap up the probe. so where are we? let's bring in fox news senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano. i mean there is an open-ended question, where are we. rudy says that mueller's team told the lawyers they're not going to indict trump but it is still a possibility? where are we with this? >> obviously i wasn't there when mayor giuliani had several meetings with the mueller team. the mueller team did not consist of bob mueller himself, but some of his prosecutors.
apparently mayor guiliana ney, are you guys bound by justice department policy? they said yes. he was referring to the policy that said that the president can't be indicted. there is two. one in 1998 and one 2000. the one in 1998 says he can be indicted. the one in 2000 says he can not be indicted. they are both advisory, not mandatory. we know they're advisory because what happened in 2000? bill clinton, sitting president of the united states was charged and pleaded guilty to perjury. was given five-year suspended sentence. was he indicted? technically no, he agreed to plead guilty in order to avoid the indictment. i don't think this ball as moved at all except that mayor giuliani has very shrewdly succeeded serving as lightning rod bringing criticism of those of us who watch this for a living to himself rather than to his client, the president. cheryl: i want you to listen to rudy giuliani and what he said earlier. listen to this, judge.
i want your reaction. >> i asked them specifically if they realized or acknowledged they didn't have the power to indict? both under the justice department memo, which gives them their power in essence, confines their power, and under the constitution? he said well, he wouldn't answer. one of his assistants said they acknowledge they had to be bound by justice department policies. then the next day or the day after they clarified it for jay sekulow who was with me at the meeting that they didn't have the power to indict. cheryl: what do you make of that? that is his take of events. >> i make of that as part of rudy giuliani's pr campaign. cheryl: okay. >> this morning i was somewhat critical of him quote, poking the bear, taunting robert mueller. rudy is paradigm former prosecutor. he knows the powers prosecutors have when you antagonize them. our colleague brian kilmeade
says our colleague judge napolitano says you shouldn't taunt the bear. >> i disagree with the judge. it is my job to taunt the bear. a lot of what he is saying is not legal argument, continue to generate public opinion against bob mueller. will he succeed? will it make a difference to mueller and his prosecutors if they are unpopular? cheryl: i happen to think no. mueller has his own thing going. >> i agree with you. cheryl: welcome to year two. >> yes. cheryl: we'll keep you busy on this story, judge. >> thank you, cheryl. a pleasure. cheryl: we have another story that is pretty darn interesting that we're following. do you know the united states birth rate is plummeting to 30-year low? how will it affect your retirement benefits in the future? we'll have that story next. they appear out of nowhere.
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cheryl: get this. the number of babies born in america has dropped to the lowest level in 30 years. according to the cdc american women gave birth to fewer than four million babies last year, a number we haven't seen since 1987. why is this happening? well some experts say that the decline to the broader use of birth control. that is part of it. others say young couples are
being financially cautious about starting a family. with america's aging population, what does it mean for our economic future of this country, yeah, your retirement, my retirement? talk about it with independent women's forum analyst patrice leo -- onuka. and rob -- >> hi, trish. >> i never had children that was a choice i made long ago. younger ladies coming through i think are stuck with a lot of debt from college. they're not getting wages they're hoping to get. their careers are starting to stall. do you think that is a piece of it? >> it is. pew asked young people that want to get married and why they are not? they said because they have student loan debt and not in a strong financial position. we have come out of the recession. we have a very strong jobs market. the question is why haven't birth rates recovered? there could be changes in norms
among marriage around millenials in my generation we're delaying medical career and because of medical advances we can have babies into our 40s. cheryl: as you get older, you may decide, speaking from a women's perspective, you maybe think, one is enough. i don't want two are three, or four. i'm throwing that out there for all of my friends. rob, talk about the economic effects of all this. this will affect retirement, whether social security. this affects a lot of things within the economy and affects older generations probably starting soon? >> it absolutely does, cheryl. i read the article in the "wall street journal" this morning this is more bad news from people collecting social security. he he proverbial well is running dry in 18 years for the social security trust fund. if you have less workers that is pretty alarming statistic we'll have to deal with soon. the only thing that separated us
from japan where they sell more depends than pampers was fertility. we need to sit down to make hard choices. >> i have to interrupt. i'm so sorry. we need to go back to the white house and president trump. let's listen. >> talked with secretary-general stoltenberg over the last year. we worked closely together, improved very much with respect to everybody the burden-sharing and we really strengthened nato and nato alliance, with a strong working partnership we forged helped to produce significant increases in member state contributions. we worked very hard on that. i will tell you that the secretary-general has been working on that for a long time, before i got there. i think more progress i can say with surety, more progress has been made in the last year-and-a-half than has been made in many, many years. we're delighted to report last year as as a result of our joint efforts, single largest increase in defense spending in european
member-states and canada in a quarter of a century. that is really quite a spectacular a achievement. i congratulate you, i congratulate you very much. we have really worked in many respects but that was i think a big one. we had countries that were not paying what they were supposed to be paying now. most countries are. not all. and i think you will be able to hand i will the ones that aren't, right? i have confidence. this afternoon i want to thank the seven nato nations. in addition to the united states, who will meet their 2% nato defense spending. unfortunately we pay much more than 2% which is probably unfair and unfair to the taxpayers of the united states. but the 2% number that is met is poland, romania, estonia, latvia, lithuania, greece and the united kingdom. they're right up to snuff. they paid. they were on time. they paid the number that they're supposed to be paying.
we have some that don't. they will be dealt with. as a result of these contributions nato is much stronger, taking in billions and billions of dollars more money than they ever have before but as the secretary-general and i have discussed, more work needs to be done. we're still waiting on 20 member-states to meet their nato commitments and spend at least 2% on defense. 2% is a very low number. the number really should be 4%. 2% is a very low number. in particular germany must demonstrate leadership in the alliance by addressing its long-standing shortfall in defense contributions. germany has not contributed what it should be contributing. and it is a very big beneficiary, far bigger than the united states quite frankly. in addition to that, as you know, they're buying massive amounts of gas from russia. and paying billions and billions of dollars.
so i think that is something we'll be discussing later and we'll be discussing that at our meeting, and probably long before the meeting. we're going to successfully confront the full range of threats and we're going to need every member state to honor its obligation. as we just said. some do, and some don't. today the united states reaffirms our commitment to article v and the mutual defense pact. we renew our call on nations to demonstrate their commitment to the alliance through their actions, including by increasing their defense contributions under article iii prepareness and military capacity. you have to be prepared. you never know what will happen. i also called on nato to improve the counterterrorism capabilities. since the founding of the alliance terrorism has claimed more lives in nato countries than any other security threat. think of that. this was something years ago wasn't even a subject. i would talk about it all the
time on the campaign and in all fairness to secretary-general stoltenberg he listened to me and they have a great counterterrorism operation. we appreciate that. i was there last may where nato adopted an action plan recommending the alliance to the fight and to fight against terrorism which is now becoming a fight all over the world, no matter where you go. places that 10 and 20 years ago you wouldn't have even thought about it. i also discussed with secretary-general stoltenberg our commitment to stopping nuclear proliferation, including denuclearization of the korean peninsula. we want a future of safety, security, peace, for all koreans and entire world. my administration is also committed to borking working wir allies to halt iran's nuclear ambitions and destablizing ambush shuns across the
middle east. no matter where you go where there is a problem there is iran behind it. we'll not going to have that any longer. i said our nations must be strong from within to its outside, to the strength of the nato alliance does not depend on military might alone but also deep ties of history, culture, tradition that have long united our civilization. now we must renew these ties and and rededicate ourselves to shared heritage. we want a heritage of peace. strength but peace. strength but peace. i want to thank you, secretary-general, for joining us at the white house. it's a great honor. working with us to fortify the nato alliance which proudly stood for several decades as bulwark of freedom, and prosperity.
we will make nato and the nato alliance stronger. we need fairness, we need to be reciprocal, counttries have to be reciprocal what we're doing. unfair some countries pay and some countries work and other countries are loyal and other countries aren't. we can't have that we're working on that together. great honor to be with you, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you so much, president, hosting me and my delegation at white house. great to see you again. in uncertain times we need strong nato. also like to thank you for your strong commitment to our alliance. last time we met your main message was that nato had to do more in the fight against terrorism. and more on the defense spending. all nato leaders agreed and now we are delivering. we are stepping up our efforts in the fight against terrorism. in afghanistan where we are increasing the number of trainers and support for the
afghan government and also in iraq. we're also plan to launch a new training mission at the summit, at nato summit in july. on the defense spending i would say agree with you. we have to do more. i would like to thank you for your leadership. it is really impacting our allies because all our allies are now increasing defense spending. they're adding billions to their budgets. so, your leadership on defense spending has really helped to make a difference. that is something i thank you for. after years of decline all allies have started to increase defense spending. no allies are cutting budgets anymore. and more and more allies are at
2% of gdp for defense. but i also agree that we have to do more. so allies will continue to work on defense spending because we to do more of our security when the world is more unpredictable as it is today. we also support your efforts to try to find a peaceful negotiated solution to the crisis on on the korean peninsula. the aim should to be to denuclearize the korean peninsula, make sure there are no nuclear weapons there, and stop not only the development of nuclear weapons but also the missile program. we need to support the initiative and their work for having a summit. we think it is important also to make sure that we still have pressure on north korea, and north korea has to seize this opportunity, this historicp student to solve the crisis on the korean peninsula.
so, once again thank you so much for your strong commitment to our alliance. i look forward to continuing our discussion and to address these issues and many other. >> thank you very much. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> can you clarify your use of the word animal yesterday. >> well it has nothing to do with this meeting but you know what i'm referring to the ms 13 gang members that are coming in. i was talking about the ms 13 and if you look a little bit further on the tape, you will see that. i'm actually surprised you asking this question because most people got it right.
you don't have that were you come from. ms 13, these are animals. they're coming into our country and were getting them out. if they come in again we get them out again. we need strong immigration laws. we have the weakest laws in the entire world. the left at on immigration. when the ms 13 comes in, i refer to them as animals and guess what, i always will. were getting them out by the thousands, but it's a big, dangerous job and they're able to come back in. >> i think we help syria by it withdrawing from the rand deal. i hope syria will start to stabilize. it's been a horror show. i have great respect for syria and the people of syria. the great people. these are great people. it was a great culture before it was so horribly blown apart. a place where people would go
and they had tremendous people, doctors and lawyers and friends of mine from the middle east that say we used to go to syria, that was the place to go. you look at what happens and it's so sad. i'd like to see it come back. we have a long way to helping with what we did with respect to the rand deal. you'll see what i mean by that overtime. [inaudible] >> i don't know. look, i want to have peace in the world, that's what i really want. more so than the nobel peace prize or any other price, i'd like to see peace in the middle east and the entire world. i think we have a chance of doing it. north korea will be very important