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michael pence. he talked about north korea and the iran accusations. be sure to tune in to charles payne right now with "making money." charles: the trump administration announcing a pause on the looming trade war pap the stock market is up and america is starting to cheer in the polls. we see the major indices all higher including the dow back above 25,000. we want to begin with president trump meeting with fbi director chris questioner wray and deputy a.g. rod rosenstein after demanding the doj find out if
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the fbi spied on his 2016 campaign and whether obama ordered it. moments ago the white house press secretary repleasing this statement. based on the meeting with the president, the department of justice asked the inspector general to expand his investigation to include any irregularities with the federal bureau of investigation's or department of justice's tactics concerning the trump campaign. here to discuss, harmeet dhillon and ford o'connell. and deroy murdock is a fox news
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contributor. these are major developments that i think have been long coming but seem to be moving very rapidly. >> absolutely, charles. i see the announcement is a natural expansion of the existing investigation into the fisa warrant irregularities. what we saw are some rhetorical questions. it's evident from the news reports that have come out that there was spying on the strum campaign. the leftest media and liberal politicians laughed at him after complaining his campaign was spied upon. i share the president's prior concerns that an inspector general investigation is not going to be sufficient and we'll only have finality out of this process if people are held
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accountable. and this spying on people abroad and a presidential campaign never happens again. charles: ford, the irregularities, explain what they may be. >> the government is hiding the ball. it's not okay for the party in power other government to spy on a presidential candidate. who ordered it, and was it for political purposes. was a spy also put into the clinton campaign where the foundation was taken from dubious sources and they may have had isolated meetings with international sources. charles: rob, earlier there was an article by jonathan turley and one of the lines that caught me is where he said there should be serious concern that the
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obama administration used secret intelligence powers to spy on the campaign of an opposing party. these are tactics uses from turkey to iran. >> while obama is the president and donald trump is the president, they are not chess pieces to be used. we have an objective justice department, fbi, cia. charles: they were perhaps doing these things without the consent or knowledge of president trump? >> yes. and donald trump is teetering on the brinkmanship of a constitutional crisis. he knows it, he's guilty and he's using every form of misdirection he to be slow things down and make this process go awry because he's
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going to get impeached. it's obvious to me, he's like a cornered rat right now. charles: getting back to this topic, deroy. a lot of things i read today and what i'm understanding from experts in thissed field, this averts a constitutional crisis. >> the only constitutional crisis i think is if the documents congress subpoenaed aren't turned over. then they get into having a contempt of congress against rod rosenstein or impeaching him. it's proper to say turn documents over to the other coequal branch of government. they have subpoenaed them and it's totally appropriate. it's like watergate without the break-in. rather than putting in listening
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devices, they put in a human to listen. charles: we have martha maccallum interviewing vice president pence. >> with the revelations that our campaign may have been the subject of surveillance by the fbi, the president i think is grateful that the department of justice is going to have the inspector general look into it and determine and insure that there was no surveillance done for political purposes against our campaign. i think it would be very troubling to millions americans if that took place. but we are confident as the inspector general has been doing their work and looking at the conducts of the fbi during that period, that we'll get to the bottom of it because the american people have the right to know.
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charles: there are so many tentacles in this thing. we do know so far the original intent with respect to finding collusion within the trump campaign as it occurred. but we are finding other things out. i think at this point it's appropriate they investigate it all. >> absolutely. but back to the point about whether the inspector general is the place for this to begin and end. the rapidity with which the deputy attorney general rapidly agreed to expand the investigation suggests they have already been aware of these facts and irregularities. we know peter strzok texted to his lover the whole operation was being directed out of the white house. when they started this, they probably didn't think this would boobookerbook -- would boomerann
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them. charles: rob, would you be fine if these paths led back to the obama administration and perhaps knowledge within that administration of what's going on? >> i love the inspector general. i actually read the up spector general reports. it will come out that donald trump is horribly guilty. charles: of what? >> political i am pro fruits, delusions, working in conjunction with the russians. he's like the wide-up doll web's their puppet. charles: they haven't found any proof of that. >> they already have 13 indictments. >> robert mueller has been looking for a year and he found zero evidence of collusion between the russians and the trump campaign. there is collusion between the hoyle are you campaign and the
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russians. i think every day he looks cleaner and cleaner by the day. charles: americans are finally starting to give president trump credit for this amazing economy. we have two new polls that show how excited americans are. founds that money would last them. how long do you think we'll keep -- oooooohhh! you stopped! you're gonna leave me back here at year 9? how did this happen? it turned out, a lot of people fell short, of even the average length of retirement. we have to think about not when we expect to live to, but when we could live to. let's plan for income that lasts all our years in retirement. prudential. bring your challenges.
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charles: the market is soaring as more and more people are coming around to the state of this soaring economy. 2/3 of americans think the nation's economy is in good shape. many of them think the president's policies are responsible for this.
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67% of americans believe now is a good time to find a quality job in the country. the highest percentage in 17 years of gallup polling. joining me, chris bedford. maddy, it's always anecdotal with me. but whether it's a strip mall or regular mall, i'm seeing help wanted signs. i'm seeing people shop. i see the malls packed. what do people want to tell surveyors, whether they like trump or not, they seem to be enjoying this economy. >> this is what i keep telling politicians and asking what should i be running on in november. people feel the economy. they know what their paychecks look like what they are paying in taxes. even the numbers -- some of these economic metrics started
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to nudge upwards under obama. with the tax reform plan going into effect this year, americans are starting to feel like their personal circumstances are changing. charles: i always believe that success begets success. it looks like more and more people are buying into it for it to work. >> it's a retelling of the way the media reacted before when donald trump was running. we had cringe worthy reports. once the american people come around more to a good u.s. economy. the reporters will say we overwhelmed them with negative news stories. americans with pretty much tuning out the russia stuff and
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game of throne garbage. the last 17 years were rough for the economy. we had 8 years of jimmy carter-like policies. finally we have got a change in that and it's showing in the polls. charles: we lowered ourselves to celebrating things we normal wouldn't have. there are elements of the economy that don't seem on falling in place like wage growth. >> we are just entering the third act of tax reform start to be implemented. that means all the business behavior that will change because of tax reform, investing here in the united states, are going to take hold and we'll see wages rise. the fact that we are at full
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employment and pressures on the labor economy are going to manifest in an increase in wages. this will show up for average americans and how they are feeling back at home. charles: we know democrats are going to say, you may have gotten crumbs, and the big boys and girls are getting a lot of money. is that fair game? >> i think it's fair to see the populist balloon that made people like bernie sanders and donald trump popular in the first place has not been released. the wage growth we have seen has been small. it's been more than we have seen in years. while the economy has continued to get better over the years. wage growth has been stagnated for decades. business owners are invested in
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robots and foreign labor. the anger amongst the populace that elected donald trump, and republicans and democrats will be careful not to forget about that. charles: and we have to stop paying people not to work. the ongoing battle against opioid addiction. surging females. the arrest rates are spiraling up. it's how we earned your trus. until... we lost it. today, we're renewing our commitment to you. fixing what went wrong. and ending product sales goals for branch bankers. so we can focus on your satisfaction. it's a new day at wells fargo. but it's a lot like our first day. wells fargo. established 1852.
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charles: the opioid epidemic has surged across the nation. between 1980 and 2009 while male arrest rates doubled. female arrests nearly tripled.
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republican congresswoman from new york introduced a bipartisan bill to help reduce the epidemic and is in consideration by the full house. first of all, congratulations on your bill. >> thank you, i appreciate it. charles: i hear some noise in the background. i was going to ask you if you can share the bill and what you are trying to achieve with it. >> we are asking to have medicare commission look at why it seems that so many opioid are being prescribed and maybe getting an advantage so they tend to be prescribing and getting and advantage. and there is a favoritism toward prescribing opioids instead non-opioid pain relievers. we want to make sure isn't an
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issue there. nearly 30% of people who become addicted to opioids are from getting a pain prescription. a lot of women taking pain killers and we are looking for options so maybe we can minimize the prescription of opioids. so that's one of the things this bill is seeking to do. we are seeking to look into that and making sure there isn't an advantage much preference. charles: the drug companies and pharmacies are under considerable pressure. but the epidemic itself continues to rage on. some estimates, 115 die every single day in this country because of it. president trump talked about prison reform. how big of a part does this play in something like that? >> this is an issue. people are going to jail because they are violating laws and
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using heroin. there are some laws in place in new york that minimize going to jail -- if you overdose and you survive, you get narcan and you survive, that doesn't immediately result in a prosecution. but long-term usage leads you to eventually going to jail. addictions are hard to overcome. but the president is right on in this particular issue. in my district you mention 150 a day act nation. 635 people in my district died of an opioid overdose in 2016. it's a huge problem in our area. it has nothing to do with what status you have. it affects all people. we worked very hard and traveled throughout the district and held surround table discussions with experts, doctors, social service
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workers, victims and victims' families. we are thinking maybe we are overprescribing and giving a preference under medicare to keep them on opioids instead of giving them an alternative that would be non-opioid based. we have yet to find a credible study that shows opioid usage for long-term pain would be good for people. yes right after surgery it's good. but based on the studies, it's not something we should be doing. let's move people away from this. this is affecting women disproportionately. charles: it's long overdue. congratulations. we appreciate it. here with us is capri cafaro along with deneen borelli.
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you dealt with this as an elected official. >> and as a licenses social worker. charles: the spotlight is on this but it doesn't feel like things are changing fast enough. >> we have a lot of attention kicked around. the opioid crisis has become the political issue. i commend anyone who is going to try to move this ball ford. the wong woman we heard from is focused on medicare. the federal government has limited jurisdiction. but we have to remember who the medicare population is. when we talk about the women behind bars because they are addicted to opioids and have gotten into the criminal justice system. that's a totally different population from the medicare population. medicare does oftentimes set the
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standard for the healthcare overall. they need significant payment reform. medicaid services. >> i think a lot of angles are being taken including some of the things the white house, their initiatives. but the question is, are they moving fast enough? what will be the hallmarks of success? >> you have got to start somewhere. the stories are heartbreaking and tragic. so many families have been affected buyer this crisis. the numbers are staggering. but why not try alternative methods especially if they are cost effective or will save lives. whether it's massage therapy or acupuncture. there are a number of measures that could be put ford in terms
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of pain management. charles: the trump administration announcing a trade truce between the u.s. and china. the naysayers jeered. but the markets loved it. we'll be right back. but as it grew bigger and bigger, it took a whole lot more. that's why i switched to the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy. everything. what's in your wallet? ♪ most people come to la with big dreams. ♪ we came with big appetites. with expedia, you could book a flight, hotel, car, and activity all in one place. ♪
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mnuchin. they are focusing on solutions. let's listen. >> we're putting trade war on hold. right now we have agreed to put tariffs on hold while we try to execute the framework. president has been clear, since first meeting with president xi . we're going to reduce the trade deficit, we have an agreement with china they will substantially agree to it. charles: it looks like prus pret trump may have made a dent in our giant trade gap. will it make a difference, mattie, details to be sketched out, but it feels like at least we'll have a wider markets for our goods, particular agricultural, technology. the big question mark is where ip stands. are you happy with the direct?
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>> that is a complicated question, looking at what develop over weekend, it is great we'll not see new tariffs exercised they put a distortionary measure from the economy. something else is uncertainty, i would like to know where we're moving forward, what we have given up to have this secession of the tariff talk. i would like certainty from these discussions about what our trade relationship with klein will look like -- with china will look like, ip is always a big question mark. to what end. we need clarity. charles: jillian, some of the numbers over week 40% increase inain a g product, and 100%. cut lokudlow saying that zte wit
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go unpunished. would that be a marked improvement from where we are, and happening fast? >> i am 100% thrilled about prospect of avoiding a trade war. and focus seems to be expanding our trade relationship, there are valid concerns, lack of addressing intellectual property and general lawlessness. and on top that of the zte stuff, they do need something harder than a slap on the wrist, they violated u.s. sanctions. this is a company where world is looking for our international credibility here, i would say keep an eye on that. let's avoid the trade war. charles: capri, a lot of people never heard of zte until president trump swrushe crushede
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company with a stweet. tweet. this is a good chance we may come out of this with a better relationship with china, both of the leaders have to look good. no one is getting everything they want. >> that is the sign of a good negotiation, when nobody wins, everyone wins. to greatest extent they can. the issue of uncertainty, is the critical one. there are a lot of unanswer questions right now, markets have responded favorably. there is a collective sigh of relief amongst at least you know dow and what not and s&p. but i think that you know even politically there are some folks waiting cautiously to see what is really going to happen. are we allowing china -- >> too spring up say, i told you so? >> forget i told you so, we all
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benefit at americans. let's hope they get to buy up agricultural foods and we're not giving up the farm to get that. charles: are you happy with the way it looks like it is evolving. >> all we're seeing is give trade peace a chance. i am glad that trade war is on hold, these negotiations are appropriate to open itselfo chinese -- to open chinese markets, i think good and american to keep -- important to keep the chinese engaged. >> president trump mentioned that over and over. >> mattie, with nafta still negotiated. china joined world trade
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organization, a couple decades ago, there are time whether free traders should have to admit the deals should be revisited. >> i think that nafta negotiations have been important. i would like to continue to see that ball move forward. talking about easing of tariffs, nafta is a good thing to bring up. and under the condition that nafta would be completed. we have not seep that agreement come to a close, hope that this argument that tariffs are a good threat is totality of the argument here, i believe that tariffs based on the economy would be detrimental to what we have right now. a growing economy. i want to avoid any uncertainty injected here, and something that puts downward pressure onure our domestic economy. charles: thank you. >> i'll tell you where winning
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charles: another great session for market, marching higher, moving back to shadows of all-time high levels in january. a lot of themes are driving this, the dirty fingernail is winning, solid across board with industrial names up really big time. it did get help from that china trade development. but they continue this stealth rally as a proxy for overall economy. and intermodal, contain
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ircarriers, one name by the way jb hunt hitting all-time high today, i hope everyone has exposure in their portfolio. and state of the consumer, retailers made just a adjustmen. those caught flat flooded are being punished. then there is oil, it keeps gushing. oil rig count remain unchanged. friday reported no new oil rigs, 844 that continues. overall i'm seeing really impressive by u.s. producers. at close west texas up a buck. and then buybacks, they continue to drive the market after the close, adobe announce a buyback
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and micron. joining us to discuss, keith fitzgerald, and david deetz. and david nelson. you are all chief strategists. keith, those are things that i see work in this market. maybe you see others. what do you like and what don't you like? >> i'm continuing to be a big player in what you mentioned. but in particular defense, i view proxy for dirty fingernail approach, packaging. they make corrugated cardboard, to me that's a direct reputation of purchasing power. charles: some of the packaging stocks are doing well. david nelson, buybacks are huge.
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they are a political issue. oil going well. that may be a political issue too. but, what do you make of the overall market, we may be talking about new highs. >> i think so. a lot of technical technology that we talked about last couple of weeks has been repaired. market kind of tolding you where to go. industrial strong today on hes of company bike like boeing -- heels of a company like boeing. it speaks to the health of the economy. we'll take it. charles: about a week and a half ago caterpillar had a downgrade to sell. wall street na not necessarily buying into idea that industrials will hit their peak. >> absolutely, these are companies that have done well, we saw nice action in boeing
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today. but that was do yo -- dow's best year, we're telling up with energy, years now, investment have kept supplies low. we've seen good prices are you know well off the 2015 highs. also we would go with some bond surrogate plays, they have been cast off for dead. charles: for example? >> pepsi, coke, procter & gamble. utilities, reits. charles: are you concerned they have no pricing power? >> you know, we like content producers better than distributers. >> higher from here? >> i would say so, yeah. it was a strong day today, hedge funds they are moving in.
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charles: several progressive groups launching a petition urging federal government to step in and break up facebooks. there have been other calls to break up giant companies like amazon and google. back with us, har dylan and jail jillian, there is a big case made gain google, facebook and amazon, should they be broken up for good of competition?
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>> these are three separate companies, and three separate cases. i'm not sure i seeings case for amazon. i think you know popular service, big is not necessarily bad. complaint against facebook is different, it has systematically broken some privacy rules, including agreements with ftc in past, and alarming stories have come out about, that but breaking up company does not seem like the best way to go there. the complaints include, fact that some of subsidiaries like insta tbram aninstagram and otht other companies. i think strongest case for breaking up is google, they have a long track record in european privacy decisions, and ftc of blocking compete ors in vertical search field, and digital advertising between facebook and
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google. they dominate over 70% of the market, another thing about google and facebook, they have blocked out competitor social networks like gap, -- gab, and apple has done it on their phones, there are aspect that ftc and doj to look at. the fact that leftists are asking for it is interesting, they spread so much money on both sides of political spectrum. charles: i believe there would be action with a democratic administration. when google of founded in 1998, you surfed net you got a healthy dose of spam or porn, they made it a lot better. >> standard oil does seem to be
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comparison that people look at, i am a little bit nervous that federal government taking such a big intervention in the marketplace, i think that is dangerous. that said, i will note under democrats, silicon valley had its day in the sun, democrat golden child for years, i am concerned about other regulation targeting tech in this way, small stuff, big tech companies like google or facebook can afford it, it will be smaller competitors that have a difficult time. charles: unintended consequences that all rules and regulations would hurt the new -- companies that can't afford $5,000 lawyers. >> absolutely. we don't want democrats doing it to penalize facebook because they are upset about trump. charles: are you -- that will rear its head again. they wanted to break up a lot of
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companies, they either within out of the business on their own or are insignificant now. >> i am sure that concerns that antitrust law can be a blunt instrument. history has shown, that target oned instances has lead to disruptive evolution of great technology, we would not talk about these companies if we did not break u update at&t. and microsoft was not able to let antitrust inforce am stick, as a result of looking over their shoulder all of the time because of antitrust regulators, and very practices were very anticompetitive, that. they sensored themselves which allowed others to build broader search engine, google is microsoft really, and if they get a penalty box or practices
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are cutback, you may see better more interesting technology that we have not dreamed of yet. charles: we'll see, spot light on all of them, thank you very much. >> report that some in south korea are -- causing a big bump in the road to diplomacy on the korean peninsula. until... we lost it. today, we're renewing our commitment to you. fixing what went wrong. and ending product sales goals for branch bankers. so we can focus on your satisfaction. it's a new day at wells fargo. but it's a lot like our first day. wells fargo. established 1852. re-established 2018.
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administration hit ground running, it fell that even president trump tried to reassure kim jong-un friday that he would be safe. was bolton too aggressive or where does the administration stand right now with this? >> i don't always trust reporting of washington post, i don't think this is bolton's fault. north korea are not always a good faith negotiating partner, bolton may be playing role of bad cop, and president trump good cop. a lot of times there is more coming out than face value. i think we get to meeting, i don't think it was john bolton's doing, we have a negotiating partner with a history of negotiating in bad faith. charles: i will say, rebecca, we announced we would suspend a scheduled test, i think a about 52 test and -- b-52 test in
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world nation was that an olive branch. >> i see our military exercising going forward. we have first time we have 8 f-22 stealth fighters there, i think that hazrateled north koreans that is whether their rhetoric started, they can only squawk. i fully expect the summit to be on. and kim jong-un in singapore ready to negotiate. charles: about pompeiioy, big news -- pompeo, him cracking down on iran. what are your thoughts? >> very different, pompeo laid out the dirty dozen of behavior that iran has to change from stopping program, stopping ballistic missiles, and most of all stops military adventure in
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middle east. bottom line is, we cannot -- >> what was that? return for the doing that? >> right, well, there will be a pile of sanctions, they will really, really hurt. the idea is that if they do this, then santions will ease off. and iran can could forward. we can't get out of that region, until we have iran bottled up. charles: gina haspel, first woman to lead cia very little fanfare. >> very little, she has an rrveg at er at theend of her name, ann affiliated with this administration will be neglected. we have seen it with extraordinary women, gina haspel is a patriot, she should be
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celebrated by mainstream media, but she is torn down because of her affiliation with this president. charles: she is personification of the american dream. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. charles: here is lou. lou: good evening, president trump demanding that justice department fully investigate charges that obama administration obama spied on tp presidential campaign, result, deputy attorney general rod rosenstein, fbi director christopher wray left their afternoon meeting at white house with new marching orders. chief of staff john kelly has a new duty to assure dodge complies -- doj complies with congressional document demands and organize those meetings where they will review the unredacted

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