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by american people ultimately to have the security clearances president is saying. no more. charles: i think ultimately, if it does happen, robin they will seen more sympathetic light amongst viewers. probably won't hurt ratings. we'll see. gentlemen, thank you both. liz next. lou: good evening everybody, top stories, department of justice, fbi have confirmed most of us pleased for the past year and more, political corruption in the highest levels of obama fbi and department of justice permitted creation of the special counsel, the endless so-called investigation of the trump campaign and administration in what has become a futile effort to prove what never existed, collusion with the russians in case you have forgotten the original idea of it all. all of what we thought we knew we now know for sure. all confirmed in hundreds of
pages of documents turned over by the fbi to the watchdog group "judicial watch." tens of thousands of redactions to carter page fisa warrant, exposed truth, president obama, his justice department, his fbi, yes, his fisa courts cooperated to spy on the trump presidential campaign and administration. based solely on pretext and no evidence whatsoever. "judicial watch"'s chris farrell joins us to talk about the bombshell document that "judicial watch" brought to light. the president tonight is considering whether to lift security clearances from corrupt former intelligence officials in the in obama administration, who used their authority and security clearances to lie, leak and undermine the trump campaign and trump administration. former federal prosecutor andrew mccarthy joins us to talk
about the dems, the desperate, desperate radical dems and the desperate deep state and continuing war against the trump presidency. plus, radical dems rushing to embrace a socialist agenda of higher taxes, universal handouts, open borders, unfettered illegal immigration. of course hatred for president trump. >> my fantasy is see donald trump dragged out of the white house in his boxer shorts. i want him naked and humiliated what he has done to the country and it is embarrassing time. lou: one would think she would be embarrassed. we'll take up the lurch left with the dean, ed rollins, our top story tonight after months of stonewalling. the fbi finally released documents proving beyond any doubt the obama administration was behind the deep state's phony russia collusion witch-hunt. the released tears unconclude the october 2016 fisa
application, to surveil trump campaign adviser carter page. it showed the democratic national committee and clinton campaign funded the dirty, discredited dossier, a major component of the fisa warrant, if not its very foundation. congressman matt gates weighing in today. >> there is a serious problem with the fbi presenting to the fisa court an application for a search warrant against a united states citizen and then followed by three renewals when they were basing it on a very flawed document, the so-called steele dossier has negative been verified. lou: that of course, bob goodlatte, chairman of the house judiciary committee. "judicial watch" has been at the forefront of getting the fbi to release the fisa warrant. chris farrell, director of investigations and research for "judicial watch" joins us no. chris, good to have you here. congratulations to you, to
"judicial watch," for the important work that always do for the country, but in this specific instance we're deeply appreciative because it goes to the very heart of what we have been talking about on this broadcast from the insipient point of the trump administration. >> thanks, lou. what we've seen, what we now have documented is gross misconduct. i'll call it what it is, it is criminal misconduct on the part of senior fbi agents and officials, attorneys on their staff as well as department of justice officials knowingly and willingly provided false and misleading evidence to foreign intelligence service court, to have them sign off, to conduct what is really a legal coup against president trump. it is just that simple. lou: it is that simple. it is that complex. it is that awful. the corruption is, you know, i'm still somewhat irritated at this point that the leaders of the house and the senate speak in
velvet terms and tones about what is a corrupt and toxic level of corruption at the fbi and the justice department, who have condoned as well as created a special counsel that has no foundation in fact, in probable cause, in any evidence whatsoever. and yet, we are watching this thing go on and on and on to the detriment of governance in this country. to impeding the president of the united states in his administration. when in the world, what will it take to end this nightmare? >> the corrosive effect of someone as corrupt as rosenstein, who is a fact witness with respect to the foundation of the creation of the appointment of mueller as counsel and firing of comey, he is disqualified at face value and this sort of abuse of
process, this abuse of the fisa system, the fisa courts, this submission of this phony warrant application and underlying affidavit which is deeply flawed and outright false, the long-term consequences for this is denigration, minimizing of faith and trust in the justice department and our courts. in the long term, the, this is the path to a failed state, let me be very clear. you can't keep going this way and pretend that oh, well, we'll bounce back, it will be okay. it's not. lou: when are we going to rip out the influence of the chamber of commerce, the business roundtable and the people it owns like paul ryan, mitch mcconnell? the list goes on. they have more company than not in both the house and the senate. it is a corrupt and flawed government that we're looking at today. president trump campaigned from 2015 on, talking about he was not owned by anybody. meanwhile nearly everyone he has
stood up, gave his first address to the nation in the house chamber are owned, they're bought and sold almost daily for one thing or the other, and i don't know what the number is. is it 50% of the them, i don't know, but i can tell you every aspect of this government now needs careful examination and what do we have to do? the fourth estate is it no longer reliable because they have sold out to the corrupt, the toxic corruption of both parties and their ideologies, particularly the left. >> i can tell you that with respect to the establishment, big capital e, establishment, whether it is democrat or republican they're terrified of mr. trump. because he can't be bought. they will do everything they can to undermine him personally and his presidency. there is no better evidence, one first exhibit of multiple pieces
that "judicial watch" is going to obtain than this fisa warrant with respect to carter page. it is phonied up, it is transparent. it's a pathetic piece of legal work and i want to know the name of the supervisory special agent who signed that underlying affidavit. he is hiding under redaction right now, but we'll find out who it is. lou: that is interesting. the judges of the fisa court system turn out to be no better than the agents whose work is so flawed and the justice department attorneys who are so corrupt politically corrupt, it is unimaginable. when we have, we knew, we knew for sure and for certainty that the top levels of the fbi were corrupt, we knew that the top levels of justice were corrupt, but i have heard too many people say that the rank-and-file of the justice department, the rank-and-file of the fbi isn't, and i have to tell you none of
these documents in the field work that either was or was not carried out, doesn't leave anyone with confidence in the integrity of the institution of the fbi or the u.s. justice department. >> look, the fish rots from the head down. at certain point even the rank-and-file becomes even negligent or complicit. there comes a point when you realize what your leadership is doing, the games they're playing, the way they abuse the process and the authority. you can't say that it doesn't have an impact on the overall organization and that is, that is the larger, deeper problem. this is corrosive course of conduct. it is criminality. it will have an impact on the country. we have to address it and fix it now. lou: how do we do it, chris? i'm sorry. go ahead. >> i've already said that the there should be an investigative division created within the u.s.
marshals service. the fbi needs to be collapsed in on itself. the agency interested joining new investigative division of marshall service. they need to be vetted and lateral over. the fbi as we know it needs to go away. it has zero credibility. people in the country don't trust, they're watching what's going on. they're seeing the abuse of authority and this corruption and they have lost their integrity. they have lost their, the authenticity of genuineness of what they once were. lou: i want to go to, it has to be i think something, the prescription you're laying out or something equally or perhaps more dramatic and dress dick has to be done because -- drastic has to be done, i don't know how we recover from this. anyone who cares about this country, their families, their children, their grandchildren. this is not institution, the department of justice you want anything to do with being responsible for endorsement of
laws that work against the american citizen, that works against decency and honor and fidelity to the constitution. this is a, this is, as low a point as one could have imagined, even in the darkest days of watergate, do you agree? >> i do. there has been no greater documented abuse of authority, abuse of process, to deliberately target a candidate and then a president than what we've seen right now. this is an outrage that goes beyond the pale of anything in our modern political history. there is nothing like it. lou: i want to, i just want to understand, your understanding of how it is a fisa court judge, no, not one, but a number of fisa court judges -- >> four of them in this case, yeah? >> could abandon the basic, elementary rigors required of
them under the fisa law, under the procedure of their court, and how anyone could stand in front of them and represent the steele dossier as sufficient evidence to carry out surveillance of a presidential candidate, for crying out loud and his campaign? >> well the process itself is, the procedure is built on, not just identifying the facts and answering all the basic interrogatories why you met the probable cause threshold but it is based on trust in this case. fisa courts are a little bit different. the justice department and fbi come in make representations, they swear to it. so the judge has to rely upon that documentation. now you can poke holes in it and ask questions but they papered this thing up in a way that is outrageous. frankly it should have drawn a intellectual curiosity from the judge, particularly when they
abandoned source number one who we now know or believe is christopher steele, yeah, we had to cut him loose as a source but we buy all the stuff he has given us. recycling of the story through michael isikoff and yahoo! news. lou: yeah. >> that is transparent fraud on the court. lou: it is a fraud on the courts, carried out by the obama justice department, the obama fbi. it is a disgrace what we're witnessing here, what has been confirmed, again because of the diligence and efforts of "judicial watch," we have the documents, over 400 pages of them today. chris farrell, as always, great to have you with us. thank you. >> thank you, lou. thanks. lou: up next, president trump reacts after the department of justice releases those bombshell fisa application documents. the president tweeted this. quote, so we now find out it was indeed unverified and fake dirty dossier that was paid for by
"crooked hillary" clinton and the democratic national committee and that was knowingly and falsely submitted to fisa in which was responsible for starting the totally conflicted and discredited mueller witch-hunt. that's right, mr. president, that's simply stated that straightforward. that's the truth that department of justice and the fbi and many in the fourth estate of course and many others in the deep state have been trying to keep from public view for a year-and-a-half. we'll take up the fisa abuse scandal with the dean of political strategists, ed rollins. he joins us here next. we'll be right back. stay with us. your brain changes as you get older. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient
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about for the people which know which people they're talking about, don't we? senator kirsten gillibrand telling voters exactly what to expect if the radical dems win in november. listen to this. >> so when we flip the house and flip the senate, i think the first thing we should do is deal with the children who have been separated from families at the border. i think we should get rid of i.c.e. lou: those are not original ideas about abolishing i.c.e., just one element of the rad kel dem agenda. raising taxes, personal income, allowing illegal immigrants to vote and seeking ways to entrap and impeach president trump. we have great america pac chairman, fox business political analyst, he had -- ed rollins. great to have you here. >> thank you. lou: let's start with gillibrand. >> take the immigrations and customs enforcement agency and
abolish it, it is the law enforcement agency has the ability to go across the country and -- lou: estimate if were abolished, 1 1/2 illegal criminal immigrants into society. >> cities are sanctuaries. we desperately need i.c.e. lou: ask san francisco how that is going? >> we need more. that is just, well, it is a ridiculous, it is ridiculous law. started with dianne feinstein and when she was the mayor there, she said i'm not enforcing any immigration laws. reality is, everybody else is following suit. lou: what is cute about feinstein doing that, is later as the chair of the senate intelligence committee she wouldn't bring charges against john brennan who had lied about spying on the senate intelligence committee because his cia was spying on senate intelligence committee. >> absolutely. lou: that is who has a security clearance right now, thanks to
the largesse of president trump. >> reality i worked in a couple white houses day i walked out, i turned in my badge and access and i didn't have anymore access to the white house and they shouldn't. these guys who have top secret clearance have no right to any intelligence. you think it might be helpful to the new administration, transition period. these guys are partisan hacks, john brennan being lead, any information he has leaking to the press. lou: he may, he acts and talks like a provocateur of a foreign government or at least alien ideology. i don't know what planet he is from but the man is not of, to me, he is certainly not of any stature in standing, to hold security clearance. >> you talk to anybody in the mainstream media, he was one of the biggest leakers when he was in the white house. when he was director of cia and my sense i would jerk every pass
he ever had and let his only access be washington, d.c. be like a visitor. lou: you've known washington politics for a long time. it seems to me the only reason to persist in these security clearances for former senior officials is simply to give them something to peddle in a new marketplace. it is, i think, i don't see a good reason, i know they say the reason is to maintain continuity of government between administrations. but the reality is that that, there is no basis for continuing security clearance for those folk. >> president controls security clearances. if the president felt he had a need for somebody outside of government, not these cast of characters, he could give them a 30-day or 60-day. this is the opposition. and they are out there being partisan. lou: this is resistance. this is subversion. >> that is much stronger word. lou: they have a shadow government and giving them security clearances. why?
>> very valuable asset to have, a lot of companies will pay for that. lou: very quickly, the security clearance do you believe the president should for the with the security clearances? >> i would have had it done yesterday. lou: secondly, seems there is every reason to think this witch-hunt as the president refers to it is going to continue without pause, because it is a partisan enterprise against a president with only purpose that i can see is to subvert him. >> no question about that we are past the 18th month of this administration. every single day this president and his team have been harassed. someone like carter page served many administrations without any evidence whatsoever has been persecuted and prosecuted in the press and what have you. just outrageous. lou: i just talked to him earlier today. he says, point-blank, were it not for some of us in this
national media keeping focus on what was happening in washington he thinks that to this day he would be stranger in a strange land. >> no question about it. lou: i think he is probably exactly, i think he is exactly right. to think about the number of people in the left-wing national media who are working in complicity and to conspire with, and in a failed ideology and a failed administration, the obama administration. corrupt to the core. >> and the president, who we both love has to basically clean this thing up. he has ability to do that should do that right now. lou: do you think he should straight away? >> absolutely. lou: all classified material put it out there. >> absolutely. lou: i don't think there is another way to inoculate this country further against the expansion of this horrible, idealogical corruption. i think the president, i think he is a only one who can fix it. it begins with utter transparency. >> totally agree.
lou: ed, always good to see you. >> thank you. lou: ed rollins. twice failed presidential hopeful, that's right, hillary rodham clinton making a public appearance this weekend. the picture we thought was worthy of note but we didn't think any of our comments would be worthy, so we thought we would just let this picture speak to you directly. there it is. up next, the national level-wing media tough talk on iran. maybe a little dose of that. what do you think? >> the prospects of war are inching up because of his tweets, because of his impulses. because of his lack of experience. >> it is dangerous to do this. >> had this actually further highlights his sub servance to putin. >> analysts always feared what would happen one day.
the president would be, at night, up late, angry and tweet a military threat against another country. lou: wow, he should talk to his barber, what do you think? what we feared? like what we've been looking for. walid phares joins us here next, on iranian threat. oh, yes, how many cupcakes are in the iranian power structure who would be just beside themselves and distraught because of the president's direct language? we'll talk that up with dr. walid phares next. stay with us. my father passed this truck down to me,
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excited when the president referred to kim jong-un as mr. "rocket man." they thought that would be instant war. joining me now, fox business national security and foreign policy analyst dr. walid phares. walid, great to see you. >> thank you. lou: i mean, can you believe that you have got a group of people in this country so concerned about the president's language that they can't see the geopolitical substance and the threat posed by iran? >> absolutely. that's the real question to be asked. the genesis of it, is that the iranian regime from the beginning for many years has been expanding in the region, penetrating countries, backing terrorism, trying to build a nuclear arsenal, developing missiles. president obama and his administration basically what they have done, they tried to cut a deal with them but that deal gave $150 billion to iran. what did they do with it? bought more weapons and missiles.
lou: $150 billion, walid, that would fund in perpetuity, terrorism against against princely western civilization, will it not? >> absolutely. number of terrorist organizations iran is funding not just in the middle east. it is in the western hemisphere in africa. what president trump has done put a stop to it, change the direction. as soon as we started to change the direction putting out of iran deal, by putting sanctions the iranian leaders threatened us and threatened the gulf, it will be a mother of all battles which warranted the tweet of the president. when the opposition in washington is trying to criticize that, they don't explain to us what is the alternative? how would they handle the iranian regime? lou: who wants to handle them? said very clearly, don't dot nonsense you gotten away with for eight years. the taking of american servicemembers hostage.
flaunting the passivity of president obama and now they have run into a president who they really just can't quite understand. he means what he says and he is going to say exactly what he means. and i think the nation should be rejoicing that we have a president who means to represent our national security interests in every, every instance. >> look, lou, i mean, we begin now, we are just in the beginning of changing that direction, which was a disaster in my view. not just our opinion. it is opinion of most of our partners in the middle east. yesterday i was on arab tv. they asked me about the american position. i said, the iranians are threatening to use force because you are putting legal sanctions. let them put legal sanctions. let them go to the international courts. how do they threaten us with military action? of course the tweet was legitimate. we need it to change our direction. lou: and, president trump is
doing exactly that. dr. walid phares. good to have you with us. >> thank you. lou: up next, more fallout from the bombshell release of the fbi fisa warrant. congressman trey gowdy, he seems more interested in making light of carter page than criticizing the corrupt figures who lead the federal bureau of investigation and department of justice, that spied on president trump for their own idealogical purposes. >> carter page is more like "inspector gadget" than he is jason bourne or james bond. lou: cute, clever. the very definition of trey gowdy. we'll take that up, and more with "the national review"'s andrew mccarthy. stay with us. we'll be rightnc back. with liberty mutual new car replacement we'll replace the full value of your car.
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find out there are so many bad guys in today's fbi, today's justice department and the fisa court. these are bad guys. >> well, what i feel worse about is that having done national security work, what, you come to appreciate is number one, there is many things that are more important than criminal procedures. lou: right. >> and number two, you can't really protect the country unless you can do certain things like keep secrets. lou: right. >> be able to take actions that need to be taken in order to protect the country, and there is secrecy that's attendant to