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heren tonight. good night from new york. ♪ ♪ david: breaking right now, the angry democrats and liberal media justin can't seem to come to grips with the findings in the mueller report. a adam schiff, who for two years claimed he had proof of collusion and even though bob mueller's report cleared the president, he just can't seem to let it go. listen. >> i've said all along that we would accept whatever conclusions he reaches as a prosecutor. i've also said that there was a big difference between the whether there was evidence of collusion -- and i think that evidence is in plain sight. david: schiff is facing growing calls from gop members to resign. one of those congressmen is here in just moments. and a bombshell in the jussie smollett case, without any explanation, cleared of all
charges that he lied to police about a racial and homophobic attack he claimed he was a victim of. he's insisting again today that he's never lied. listen. >> i've been truth theful and consistent on every single level since day one. i would not be my mother's son if i was exhale of one drop of what i was accused of. this has been an incredibly difficult time, honestly, one of the worst of my entire life. david: plus, darkness blanketing socialist venezuela for the second time in weeks. we have a national party assembly member here exclusively. "trish regan primetime" begins right now. ♪ ♪ david: hi, everybody. i'm david asman in for trish regan. our top story tonight, the results of the nearly two-year-long mueller probe proving many in the mainstream media and the intel community got it totally wrong.
one person at the intersection of both worlds, former cia director john brennan -- who's now an nbc contributor -- who had some harsh word for the president's behavior when it came to russia. >> this is nothing short of treasonous to. >> you said it rose treason. >> i said it was nothing short of treasonous to. and i did say it rises to and exceeds the level of high crimes and misdemeanors. david: he said it again and again, but now he's doing a a little backtracking. >> i don't know if i received bad information, but i think i suspected there was more than there actually was. david: and yet another intel community power player still sticking by his collusion narrative despite mueller's conclusion that the president and his campaign did not conspire or collude with russia. take a listen to house intel committee chairman adam schiff. >> have democrats found any evidence of collusion? >> yes, we have. so there's clear evidence on the issue of collusion, and this adds to that body of evidence.
that, to me, is direct evidence, but there's also abundant circumstantial evidence. i did say that there is ample evidence and, indeed, there is, of collusion. david: joining me now is tennessee congressman mark green. congressman, thanks for coming you're among those calling on schiff to resign from his position. he's chairman of the intel committee. why should he resign? >> thanks, david, for having me on the show. i think he should resign because, basically, he has said he saw -- he physically saw -- evidence that was convincing, that the president of the united states had committed a crime. and now we find out that there was never any evidence that showed collusion of any kind. mr. schiff's standards of evidence are very clearly inappropriate, wrong. he should not be chairing the house intel committee. it makes no sense to have someone who can say that they saw evidence when there was never any evidence. i just think it's wrong.
i mean, he's a conspiracy theorist, basically, is what he is, and he should not be leading the house intel committee. david: you know, i went back and looked at quotes from him in which he did say specifically that he has seen credible evidence that there was collusion. was he just making it up? i mean, is there somewhere, some access to some document that he might have that mr. mueller never saw? >> i can't imagine. i mean, it's very clear with their threat to continue investigations that their real goal is to take the president down. and i genuinely believe when they took over in the house this year, they were teeing up all these investigations, even in oversight with michael cohen coming in, the goal is to take the president down. if he had evidence, there is no way in the world he would keep that from bob mueller. there is no way. david: well, despite your calls for him to resign, i think it's more likely he would become a republican than resign, don't you? [laughter] >> that's a good one. i'm going to remember that line.
if i can use that, i will -- yeah, but the chances -- david: you don't really think there's any possibility he would resign. >> clearly, he's not going to resign, but, you know, the speaker could ask him or even put pressure on him, she could actually pull him from his speakership -- or his chairmanship of the committee. so she could to that for the integrity of the committee and for the integrity of the house, and i think she should do that. david: you know, it was about a year ago, it was in the april 2018, when the house intel committee -- of course, then run by republicans -- came out with a report that said pretty much what the mueller report said, that there was no collusion, there were some hits on the president. it suggested that perhaps he was indiscreet in some of the things he said, but in terms of collusion, there was none, no evidence. it pretty much parallelled what mr. mueller said even though democrats were furious at the house report. they haven't had the guts to come out and say they're furious with the mueller report after
having supported mr. mueller for so long. >> that's right. they talked about how impartial he was going to be and how great of a prosecutor, investigator he was going to be. so their credibility will only be worsened if they come out and criticize him. but the senate, you know, the senate came out with a version just a few months ago and basically said the same thing, there is no evidence of collusion here. and yet mr. schiff wants to keep on investigating, wasting the time -- you know, and it's an opportunity cost. whenever a committee looks at one thing, they can't be looking at something else. and we have some serious problems in the country. active duty suicides in the army increased this last year. why are we not looking into that? because all they want to do is bring president trump down. david: you know, it's not only a waste of time, it's a waste of political capital. and i'm just wondering, you work with these people every day. i'm sure you're, you know, off camera you're friendly with some of them. don't you ever suggest, look,
you guys can't be serious, this is not going to be a winning issue. i mean, do they really plan on carrying it through even though mr. mueller said there's nothing there? >> it seems to be they want to continue these investigations. clearly, house intel wants to. whether or not oversight will continue down this path, it, you know, it just -- we'll have to wait and see. but very clearly, mr. schiff had said he wants to go forward with more investigations. he's doubling down, and it just continues to destroy his credibility. and i think that's why leader mccarthy, you know, kicked this off, and now the rest of us are joining in the chorus, he needs to step down. david: well, it may also be destroying their chances for a win in 2020, so, you know, i assume they think they know what they're doing, but we'll leave them to their own devices. great to see you, sir, thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me on the show. david: for more than two years, the talking heads in the
mainstream media pushed their narrative of collusion. >> this is ed of willingness -- evidence of willingness to commit collusion, that's what this is on its face. >> so let's be clear, what we are seeing and what we have been seeing is collusion in realtime. >> yes. >> the word collusion is what springs to mind -- >> i think we have all the proof we need of a scandal that's arguably worse than watergate. david: well, now in the style of march madness, look at this, "the new york post" is out with its mueller madness bracket of the worst offenders in the media world that got it totally wrong on trump-russia collusion. here now to weigh in, vice president of business and culture at the media with research center, dan gainor. i'm loving, dan, because it's genius. whoever designed this was brilliant. i'm just wondering, who is your pick for the person in the middle of all those brackets? who's the worst offender? >> i think it's a brilliant document, but i found one flaw in it, and he would be my
winner, and that would be cnn's brian shelter. you look to the people who are media critics to kind of lead the way and do the best, and instead he's become the chief rationalizer of what the press does badly. he's helped, you know are, reassert dan rather as somehow being a legitimate media commentator when dan rather left in humiliation and embarrassment. david: i don't know, i think that ship has sailed, no offense to mr. rather. i have to throw in avenatti. avenatti the, of course, was on over a hundred times in, like, a two period after he started to defend stormy daniels, but he was really pushing the narrative, and after what's happened to him, i mean, he's -- that's gotta be the ultimate irony, that he was so well respected and so consistently brought in as a defender of the truth, etc. >> well, remember cnn and brian
stelter actually interviewed him like he was a viable presidential candidate. david: i know. >> he's gone from, you know, how the mighty have fallen. so, yes, most of those hundred p and some times were at cnn. david: and the standards, i mean, it shows you the standards. the standards not only of truth, but, you know, they have awards that they give out for journalistic excellence, the pulitzer prize is one of them, and the pulitzer prize went to the new york times and went to the washington post for series that they did on subject of collusion and the whole trump administration's involvement with russia that turned out not to be true. >> yeah. you look back at this, and the whole issue, we've been fed this for two years, and the media's stuck now. they don't want to -- you can't back up. you've got rationalizing, you've got sullivan, washington post media critic, actually saying journalists should be proud of what they do.
david: right. >> you live in a liberal bubble, but sometimes you have to leave it to see the real world, and they don't want to do that. david: what to they do know? clearly, they took a hit. some of them actually came out and suggested they have, although today people like joe scarborough yesterday said, look, we should all admit that the president did nothing wrong as far as collusion is concerned, but then today he was kind of backtracking a little. it's very difficult for a journalist to admit that they did something wrong, isn't it? >> well, yeah. there's no profession where corrections and apologies come more pain any than in journalism. that's why you see huge front-page stories and then little minor examples of corrections inside. but remember, you know, this is not small stuff we're talking about. we had three reporters who resigned their job because their stories were bad at cnn. we had washington post claiming that russia hacked the power grid which, of course, was
bogus. and my favorite -- and really damaging -- was abc's brian ross who personally tanked the stock market with his bogus reporting. david: that's right. >> that has an impact, and people stop taking you seriously, and they have to. because when the press has done so much harm in these two years, and it's not going to end. this is -- we're now in permanent investigation mode as long as democrats have control of the house, they're going to be investigating somebody for something. david: finally, we've got to run, but do they take a mitt? do they take a ratings hit as a result of this? >> well, i think they take a if p.r. hit. the fact that they've been quoting people, washington post quoted me. you know, when they start quoting conservatives, you know that they're paying attention to the criticism. but will they change? no. and that's really the ultimate problem. david: dan gainor, great to see you. appreciate it. coming up, outrage and
confusion tonight after chicago prosecutors drop all charges against actor just city smol met9 -- jussie smollett who was accused of staging his to own hate attack. and get this, one prosecutor actually says despite today's decision he still believes smollett filed a false report. then why did they crop the charges? -- drop the charges? >> when the green new deal was put on the senate floor for a procedural vote today, a vote to debate the measure, not a single democrat voted yes. so you guys support the measure but you won't go on record for the measure. the hypocrisy when we continue. ♪ ♪ so, you're open all day, that's what 24/7 means, sugar. kind of like how you get 24/7 access to licensed agents with geico. hmm? yeah, you just go online,
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ocasio-cortez's green new deal. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell urging the dems to go on the record whether they support the $99 3 trillion plan. -- 93 trillion. well, they did not get behind the green new deal. 43 democrats voted present, 4 voted no and 0 votes yes. now she claims it was all by design, tweeting out, quote: i encouraged them to vote present along with others. mcconnell tried to rush the green new deal straight to the floor without a hearing. the real question we should be asking, why does the senate gop refuse to hold any major hearings on climate change? here with me now, fox news contributor deneen boar knellly and democratic strategist scott -- deneen, already the gop is using this, aoc's criticisms not withstanding. let's just play a little clip from a gop ad that just came
out. >> our is in peril, and with we need to be bold -- and we need to be bold. >> does the green new deal go too far? >> no. you cannot go too far on the issue of climate change. muck i. ♪ >> i see it as a jump-start, so i would vote yes. >> green new deal, i'm in all the way. ♪ ♪ david: so do they take this all the way to the election in 2020? >> oh, definitely, david. and even the democrats know the green new deal is a sheer disaster. this would be a massive expansion of our energy and our economy. it would be a war on cows, it would be back to the war on fossil fuels -- [laughter] the labor unions are not happy with the green new deal. remember how that worked out for them, for president trump in 2016. so we're talking jobs and the economy. the democrats don't want to go on record, even chuck schumer advise ared them to vote present
for this. so, clearly, they're on the wrong side of what americans want. david: but, scott, it's too late because after it came out, almost immediately after it came out before people really thought about how much it would all cost, you had a lot of democrat contenders coming out in favor, gillibrand, bernie sander, kamala harris, etc. >> well, they're certainly supportive of a green -- david: they were supportive of the green deal. read their comments back then. >> and i think they still are supportive, and i think most americans are supportive of being able to save the planet, reduce our carbon footprint. this was an outline, a kick start. it had no details in regard to how you're going to pay for it, but it was a road map for where we need to be. the reality is we've got to figure out how to the pay for it, but how could republicans or anyone be against saving the planet when all empirical data says we've got to reduce our
carbon emissions and our footprint? [laughter] you know, the planet is going to go away from us, this isn't some hoax -- david: i've heard that from a number of people today. in fact, i think it was aoc who suggested that mcconnell himself was for the end of the planet. i don't know how much that will resonate in november 2020. >> yeah. i think they said in, what, 12 years, david? david: yeah. >> listen, americans are watching, and i say keep going, democrats, because they're on the wrong side of everything. they're ignoring the mueller report, they want this green new deal, they're anti-semitism, they're abortion on demand. all of their policies are just absolutely outrageous. and i think they're going further and further to the left. the voters are watching what they're doing, and they're imploding themselves, is what i see. david: scott, president trump has revitalized the fossilling fuel business in the united
states. he's deregulated a lot of the industries including coal, including natural gas, allowing for more fracking than democrats thought was necessary. but as a result, we've had thousands of new jobs, we have an energy independence that we've never had before, we're producing more oil and gas in certain months than any country in the world. are you against that? >> well, i can tell you that the big part of that resurgence has been the shale -- david: true. >> -- that we are producing right now, and i'm certainly for that. but what the republicans are forgetting, those create jobs, sure. but at the risk of what? the empirical data, private and even the own government, the republican government right now say that we've got to do something about climate change, and we've got to do something about this carbon footprint. i want to hear what the republicans say or what their plan is for this, because you can say what you want about shale and energy, you can say what you want to say about the green plan that has no meat9 to
it or you can't pay for it, tell me what the republicans' plan is -- david: i can tell you, i'm glad we're more energy independent from some of those oil sheikhs -- >> tell me what the plan is from the gop. they don't have one. david: no, i think the plan is to get more fossil fuels from the united states. coming up, a major blackout crippling much of venezuela for the second time in weeks. straight ahead, my exclusive interview with a member of venezuela's national assembly. why he says nicolas maduro is to blame. but first, chicago prosecutors dropping all charges against actor jussie smollett. that mayor rahm emmanuel blasting today's decision, take a listen. >> this is a unbelievable not just whitewash of justice, this is a person who's been let off scot-free.
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♪ ♪ >> i've been truthful and consistent on every single level since day one. i would not be my mother's son if i was capable of one drop of what i've been accused of. this has been an incredibly difficult time, honestly, one of the worst of my entire life. >> do i think justice was served? no. what do i think justice is? i think this city is still owed an apology. david: talk about a bombshell, chicago prosecutors dropping all charges against empire actor jussie smollett accused of staging a racist and homophobic hate crime against himself this year. a reporter asked one of the prosecutors, seen here late this afternoon, if he believes smollett lied on the police report. his reply, yes. this was not an exoneration. to say he was exonerated by us or anyone else is not true. joining me right now, former
u.s. attorney bud cummins. and that is why, bud, we had this open warfare today between the prosecutor's office and the police. the police say you can't exonerate somebody after you're still saying that there's evidence that he lied and that he staged this attack. and for all we know, committed a felony that -- against a federal statute for which the fbi is still looking at him. >> yes. and i think that's an important point. number one, hey, i was a prosecutor, and in the universe of prosecutors, i'm kind of a lenient guyment i believe that there's a range of justice. i believe in resolving cases reasonably and allowing for human fallibility. this, this settlement of this case is a sham, and it's self-evident. in over 30 years of being around this business, i've never seen a case dismissed where the prosecutor's making statements as if the defendant had agreed
to his guilt and had a agreed to do certain things, and the defendant's walking out the door maintaining his innocence and saying nasty things about the police -- david: well, it opportunity happen just by chance. we know, in fact, that the main prosecutor, kimberly fox -- she's the cook county prosecutor -- she had to recuse herself a couple of weeks ago because of the fact that she admitted she was in contact with relatives of smollett, and she was also in contact, very curious meeting, some kind of contact with michelle obama's former press aide who, essentially, relayed to her some information about why this guy deserves some leniency, etc. we don't know exactly what was told to her, but it was after that she refuse caused herself -- recused herself, but justice was denied because of political contacts from up on high. >> i suspect this recusal's a sham. i don't think this prosecutor was in charge of this case.
he tonight appear to be in control of it. and i don't know if state's attorney fox met on the tarmac with ms. chen, but i think that there were certainly discussions that went on that were real reminiscent of loretta lynch and bill clinton. david: yeah. >> and i think the bigger story here is people in america are starting to see this is a double standard in the way one case gets handled, this is just another example of the politicization of the law enforcement system and picking winners and if losers. david: absolutely. no, the cornerstone of our justice system is the blind justice, the lady justice who's got blindfolds on. that blindfold was ripped off the moment that this prosecutor, kim fox, began to deal with people in a backhanded way in order to get this buy guy off. -- this guy off. and, by the way, we'll never know the truth. >> i them -- i tell you one thing, i think may might have
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>> fair to say that the country shd be happy that the president didn't collude with russia right now? >> we don't know that for a fact. david: freshman house democrat rashid talib telling tmz she's refusing to move on even as the mueller investigation ends. she has wanted to impeach president trump for as long as she's been in the house. talib is now circulating a letter to her colleagues usualing fellow democrats to continue the push to impeach the president. the obsession raises major questions. here now with me is presidential historian doug wead. great to see you. >> good to see you, david. david: newt gingrich says now it was a really profound mistake of
republicans to impeach bill clinton, that they shouldn't have gone that far, but it doesn't seem that democrats are listening, does it? >> yeah. and this is going to make them look very petty. this is poorly-timed. i think they haven't quite understood the power of the fact that the mueller report found nothing, no collusion. no indictments. remember, david, the judge who once said that a good prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich -- [laughter] david: that's right. >> in the 17th century it was said all i need is nine lines, and i can hang a man. so here was the white house giving a million pages to robert mueller, and he found nothing. if they had a million of my pages, they'd find something. david: right. and they're still talking impeachment. i mean you know, ken starr -- the man responsible for the measures that led to the impeachment of bill clinton --
he actually found evidence to of a crime or many evidences of a crime. presidential, witness tampering -- perjury, witness tampering, obstruction. there was no such evidence at all in the mueller report. >> yeah. it's interesting as you look through history, usually it's the victor that imprisons and prosecutors the loser. all through -- from the antiquities to the middle ages to modern times. but here's -- and you even find it in latin america now. in brazil there's people in prison who were the losers, the winner in the election, same in argentina, same in peru. but here's an example of the losers in 2016 trying to prosecute the winners. it didn't work. [laughter] it didn't work. david: and it doesn't make any sense. but i'm wondering, with the mueller investigation gone, and it did, despite all the president's hits on mueller, etc., the witch hunt talk, he never actually interfered. i mean, the process went its course in a wonderful way that
we have in the united states of following the law. and that exercise, and i think in many people's minds strengthened our commitment to the idea of law and order, no? >> i think so. and i can't get over the fact that mueller looked at a million pages from the white house and couldn't find anything. [laughter] that's seek key clean. and, by the way, if you'll google it, rashid da has several hundred thousand petitions to try to impeach her. [laughter] so you've got to be careful what you wish for. david: doug, very quickly, now that the mueller investigation is over, do you think that we will focus on serious stuff for the election in 2020 like, for example, the economy and national defense? >> i think we've got a brief window here, and the president's trying to take advantage of that to get something done. so i have, i have hope, and i think it's in the interests of the democrat party to try to get
something done. david: hope springs eternal. doug, greet to see you. well, new tonight, the president's national emergency to secure funding for his southern border wall is going to move forward after the democrat-controlled house failed to secure the votes to override president trump's veto today. this while yet another migrant caravan, nearly 2500 strong, is making its way to our southern border this evening. joining me now is congressman sean duffy. does this clear the way for the actual building of a wall? no more talk? >> yeah. so first off, we knew that congress wasn't going to override the veto. this was going to be a waste of time so, yeah, the construction starts, but make no mistake, we'll have lawsuits, and the courts potentially can shut down the construction of the wall. that's how this is going to play out. but i've got to tell you, i love it, it's fascinating that democrats say walls are immoral. when you come to wisconsin and go to the democrat convention in
milwaukee, what you're going to see around the perimeter is what? big 12-foot walls funneling people through points of entry. why don't they want walls on the southern border to us safe, keep the flow of people down? we have the most illegal crossings per day, the most in 13 years. this is insane. it's a crisis, and i'm proud of the president for fighting back and pushing back and trying to do what he promised in the campaign, a secure border. david: we have a terrific reporter, william la jeunesse, who's spent a lot of time on both sides of the border and has really exposed the crisis that is going on there in a way like i haven't seen it before. "the wall street journal" just did a terrific series a couple of weeks ago on the crisis, and it is so clear that it's a crisis. i mean, you cannot, you cannot say anything but that there is an emergency going on there right now. >> yeah. i think most common sense americans, they understand that it's an emergency. they look at their tv screens, they see the flow of people
coming across the border. they don't know who they are. some are good people, but we do have criminals and traffickers and, you know, we need to make sure we know who's coming across -- david: so here's the question -- >> david, this is going to resonate with the moms in suburban america that president trump has had a problem with. they're going to come back on the security issue and say donald trump is keeping me safe, and democrats are out of their mind that they won't secure the border. david: but this is the question concerning democrats, why? why is it that they are against any kind of border security? is it with because they want to upset the president in one of his campaign promises or, i mean, do they not care that people are being harmed as a result of what's happening on the border? >> listen, from barack obama with walls around his new place, his new home, from the white house with walls, the vatican with walls, they know that walls work with. they've supported them in the past. the only reason they're in opposition now is that donald trump ran on that in the 2016
election, and they hate him so much that they can't give him a perceived win. they don't care. and you just talked about the impeachment. even though mueller comes out with a report that says there's no collusion with russia, they won't take that. at least the radicals and the left wing of the democrat party, they're going to try to impeach him, they'll never give him a wall, and that's why donald trump is going to forge on and use the power he has -- david: sean, i've got to ask this question because price is of concern to this business channel, but doesn't the price of the wall, $5 billion over two years, doesn't that pale in comparison to the cost of capturing, of adjudicating, of feeding, housing all of these hundreds of thousands of illegal imgrans? [laughter] >> david, you're absolutely right. the cost is small. and, by the way, the full security is $25 billion over ten years. but you're right, this section, $5 billion, and it's way cheeper
than -- cheaper than illegal immigration. and by the way, the meth and heroin addiction that we have in wisconsin and all across this country that comes across the southern border is devastating our communities. we don't have the community to actually fight it and deal with the recovery of those addicted. david: yeah. and that's the human cost as well as the monetary cost. the human cost is much worse. congressman sean puffty, thank you for being here -- duffy, thank you for being here. vice president mike pence is going to be meeting with the wife of juan guaido, tomorrow's meeting coming as a major blackout to, another one, clip cannings venezuela for the second time in weeks. details when we continue. being a usaa member, because of my service in the military, you pass that on to my kids. something that makes me happy. being able to pass down usaa to my girls means a lot to both of us. he's passing part of his heritage of being in the military. we're the edsons. my name is roger zapata. we're the tinch family, and we are usaa members for life.
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david: breaking news right now, an investigation underway this evening in orlando, florida, after a southwest airlines boeing 737 max 8 plane is forced to make an emergency landing because of engine problems. no passengers were onboard, thank goodness. the faa says two pilots were ferrying the plane to california for short-term storage when they encountered engine problems. earlier this month president trump and the faa ordered all boeing 737 max 8s to be grounded following two fatal crashes since october. and new tonight, venezuela has been hit by yet another blackout, the second in a month,
crippling a country which is already on the brink of total collapse. this is juan guaido's chief of staff, still in jail after nicolas maduro's thugs kidnapped him. his wife rami spoke exclusively to trish about this yesterday. listen. >> my husband has been kidnapped for four days today. he was at home, and suddenly the police forces of regime of nicolas maduro take by the force in the whole building, and they raided my house. and even my neighbors. and they planted guns. david: joining me now is a national assembly member, armando armas. thank you for being here. now, the maduro regime is desperate, i think the kidnapping of this official shows that. do you, are you concerned? to you worry that the next target might be wyoming doe?
>> actually, it was. today the presidential vehicle was attacked before he was answering -- david: was he hurt at all? >> no, thank god not. but i think what they're trying to do is to escalate the conflict. and, you know, and this is very dangerous for us. roberto is a very good friend of ours, he's a fowpgd member of our party -- founding member of our party. he's a foreman lawyer, attorney of lopez who last night as well, while the blackout is happening, their house was at some point yelled at like maduro thugs as well. david: with mobs? >> yeah, a crowded mob yelled at them, you know? and they said with their kids this all sort of things that they wanted to take him to a high security jail. so it's not just roberto, it's
also -- also the lawyer which is the russian oil company, he was the legal consultant of the company and was taken away at night as well, kidnapped. and they just don't care, they are escalating. said david not only does it show their desperation, but you are an example of the young, energetic core of the opposition in the country. the only people, it seems, that maduro has with him supporting him are either outsiders like the russians or the cubans, or this old guard, sort of also mafia-like people. the energy of venezuela, the youth and the energy and the vibrancy of the country seems to me all to be with the op cig, no? -- opposition, no? >> actually not with the opposition, actually with the -- david: the opposition to maduro. >> the legitimate president of
vens venezuela which is juan guaido. 90% of venezuelans do not want this regime, which is pure evil. and there are moments in life where society, we have to deal with evil in its pure essence. and this is what happens, and i'm not being exaggerating. this is what happens in nazi germany at some point, and this is what happened in libya -- david: absolutely. human condition. >> and also it's pure evil. which happens to be, as trish regan -- and say hi to trish -- which happens to be a brutal socialist dictatorship. but this is beyond that. it's a matter of democracy against tyranny. so venezuela right now, it's the ground of a major power struggle. and that's just not the cubans and the russians, but also chinese at some point and iranians -- david: absolutely. >> and turkey. it's a major power struggle. so by ourself, we cannot -- this
is not just a problem for us venezuelans or a venezuelan problem or a hemispheric problem. now, like i said, it's a global problem -- david: it is, but let's focus on the hemisphere because there are certain countries that are really dependent on venezuela primarily for its oil, namely cuba and nicaragua. if maduro goes, their sugar daddy goes, and daniel o teg georgia and the communist government in cuba, i think, would be more fragile than they already are, no? >> definitely. and i'd said this -- i've said this before, cuba's a cancer. of course, this is a symbiotic relationship between cuba and venezuela, and we venezuelans have dealt with it for 20 years. we've been resilient, we have been -- david: we only have about 30
seconds left, but the generals, a lot of people say there aren't enough defections by the generals, but i've heard there are thousands of soldiers that are leaving because they're the ones that don't have foreign bank accounts, they don't have gold. are they deserting to the point where the generals might not have any troops to order around? quickly. >> well, i cannot say that. what i can say is that we are going to win. venezuelan people, it's a great people, and we are going to win for freedom and democracy. david: we have to leave it at that. armando, great to see you. >> thank you. david: more trish' began prime time next, stay with us. ♪ mizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. nice! but uh, what's up with your partner? oh! we just spend all day telling everyone how we customize car insurance because no two people are alike, so... limu gets a little confused when he sees another bird that looks exactly like him.
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