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hi, everybody, great to have you on this friday i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott. the united states pwaoeg up our defense systems after growing threats from north korea. the pentagon is resuming implementation of the missile defense shield it stopped in 2009, days after the north threatened a preemptive nuclear strike against the u.s. some lawmakers say the deployment of 14 additional intercepters never should have been canceled and has wasted hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer money. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel live for us now in washington. mike, what have we learned about the action the u.s. is taking in response to those north korean krets? >> reporter: good morning, fox news has learned the pentagon is set to deploy 14 additional ground-base interest centers at missile silos in alaskan california according to congressional sources and u.s. officials. that would bring the total to 44. undersecretary of defense for policy james miller hinted at
the decision in a speech to the atlantic council on tuesday saying the public announcements are the cause for this. they have called north korea an evolving threat and here is the pentagon's take from earlier this week. >> working closely with our south korean allies. we remain possible taourd for any contingency and stand ready to protect u.s. and south korean interests. the important message that this government has sent to north korea is that it needs to change its rhetoric and take the. reporter: lowering the temperature has proven challenging, skwro*fpblt. jon: what about the members o jon. jon: what are the members of congress saying. >> reporter: they say countering the threat costs more than four years ago a price tag of
$205 million. one former lawmaker says the u.s.' enemies are looking to exploit any holes in america's national security. >> people are out there looking for the opportunities, gaffes and weakness. we should have continued to have a defense shield and show peace through strength which is what ronald reagan promote ned that speech back 30 years ago as a deterrent. >> reporter: the administration had planned to beef up inch centers to 44 but president obama stopped the deployment when he took office in 2009. jon: mike emanuel in washington. thank you. coming up later in the hour general jack keane joins us with his take on the growing threat from north korea and the pentagon's efforts to ramp up security. jenna: the president wrapping up three davis visits to capitol hill meeting with top republican lawmakers and trying to urge them to compromise on the nation's budget problems. even after all the face-to-face meetings one of the questions that remains is do either side see eye to eye.
ed henry is live with an up close and personal look on this. is anybody sincere about reaching a deal? >> reporter: that is the big question and the white house has faced this question about the president's outreach in part because you'll remember that story a few days welcome back in the national journal magazine where an unnamed white house official says all this outreach, charm offensive was a joke, a show if you will for the media as benefit to make it look like the president is reaching out to lawmakers. the white house has completely rejected that anonymous quote. they say the president is sane sear about trying to get a brand bargain budget deal with spending cuts and tax changes to workout that with republicans on the hill. yesterday the president sounded optimistic, take a listen. >> are you making some phrog. >> i think we've had good conversations. >> reporter: the question now moving forward is whether they will come together on some of these issues. the president traveling today in the chicago area going to announce a $2 billion green energy fund. speaker boehner's staff immediately saying look for this
to have any credibility the president has to increase oil and gas production in the u.s. and they are specifically citing the keystone pipeline. they are waiting to see whether or not the president is going to approve that, jenna. jenna: we'll be talking to two lawmakers working on the keystone pipeline and some legislation through congress to speed that up. in the meantime, just as far as the republicans, their reaction to these series of meetings, what are they telling you. >> reporter: to summit us they are saying the old ronald reagan line, trust but verify. they see the president having dinner with republican senators a week or so ago. like republicans john boehner says unless he gets serious about cutting spending they will not have a deal. >> president obama reached out yesterday and visited with the house republican conference and i think we had an honest discussion. but this is going to take more than dinner dates and phone calls. it's going to take the president and senate democrats rolling up their sleeves, making tough choices, about how we solve our nation's problems.
>> reporter: i can tell you what is underlining awful this is when you talk to the president's top aides in private they say they are concerned about the president's time in office already getting close to lame duck stat it was and they are worried that the budget mess can over shadow the rest of his legacy, immigration reform, gun control, et cetera, that's why they are desperately trying to get a grand bargain, get a big budget deal so they can move onto other items. jenna: he just got reelected, necessity are already worried about that. >> reporter: most anal lis, even on the democratic side say he's got a year, 18 months before he is a lame duck, so we're talking about 2016. we are we are coming to spring and they are dealing with this budget mess. jenna: it's important to remember as we tackle all these issues. good to see you. >> reporter: thank you have a good weekend. jon: right now planning for the future of the republican party, some leading g.o.p. figures firing up the crowd at the cone serve tiff political action conference outside washington
d.c. former vice-presidental nominee ron paul -- i'm sorry paul ryan, had a little ron paul on the brain there, paul ryan speaking about the need to get become to the party's conservative fiscal approach. these are live pictures right now of wayne lapierre of the national rifle association. there is also talk about smaller government and the need for fiscal conservatism. take a listen. >> we don't see the deaths as an excuse to cut with abandon, to shirk our obligations. we see it as an opportunity to change government, to make it leaner and more effective. these what conservatives stand for. that's who we are. jon: joining us is steven h*rb hayse with the "weekly standard" and a contribute. they said the future of the republican party took some shots at its past on thursday. more fireworks today, steven? >> yeah i think you will see some more fireworks as
republicans and conservatives sort of work through what to do next after the results of the 2012 election. i thought what was interesting this morning, at least, is to contrast what you heard from paul ryan who is saying that the debt and deficits are a central issue that need to be dealt with immediately and the exchange you had withed henry who say that white house aides want to move away from the budget, move away from these debt and deficit issues because they are keeping him from getting the things that they regard as more important. i think there is just the fundamental difference between the two governing philosophies right now and i expect you'll hear a lot more of the criticism of president obama than you will sort of republican teeth nashing and beating up one another at cpac. >> paul ryan has his budget proposal out. it has been safe srapblg savaged by the left. at least he has one out there. the white house that is required
under the constitution to put out a budget hasn't done so and said we were so busy with sequester we can't get it out for a couple of months. >> right and i think it's probably safe to say that the white house budget is never going to balance either. one of the things that paul ryan's budget does is balance in ten years. in previous iterations of this budget it would have taken a bit longer. paul ryan deserves a tremendous amount of credit for including entitlement reform in his budget in the governing document that republicans have put out. it's funny to think back three, four years ago the idea of including entitlement reform was thought to have been political suicide. but ryan did that, he's pushed entitlement reform pretty forcefully. the president hasn't yet joined in. he's hinted that he might favor certain kinds of i would say small entitlement reforms, but we'll see if the president includes any in his budget. jon: you're pointing to some of the criticism that has been thrown to the ryan budget even
from members of his own party saying look this is the same kind of platform that you ran off as a vice presidental candidate and we. >> look i think there is very short sighted criticism directed at paul ryan right now suggesting that this isn't a real serious budget or the budget doesn't go quite far enough. i haven't heard entitlement reform proposals from many of the people criticizing paul ryan and i think if you go back and look at the history of what happened with the ryan budget, and the fact that ryan had to challenge his own party, the institutions of his own party, including the national republican congressional committee, which in 2010, just three years ago was advising people not to talk about entitlement reform, i think the fact that it's now a center piece of republicans and where they are trying to take the party in the future is quite a credit to paul ryan. jon: coming up in a little less than an hour you have the speakers who were both candidates the last time around on the weapon side, rick santorum and a fellow named mitt
romney and then later on tonight jeb bush. but you say that, you know, it's the people who are not invited this year that are in some ways making most of the news. >> it's just interesting to me that i mean cpac has made a decision that they are not going to invite certain people like bob mctkorpblg mcdonnell and chris christie. they've invited donald trupl, excluded gay conservatives from attending and it's been a distraction. all of these picking and choosing. my preference -frbgs it's not my conference so it's not for me to say. my preference would be to have a big, huge discussion, include all different saoeupbdz of conservatives and let them have it out. these what this signed of event i think would be for. and the irony i think is further under scored that the guy who is running cpac, the american conservative union head, alcardenas was once the guy who recruited marco rubio, pushed him to run for senate. when charlie crist jumped in
jumped to tkhar lee crist and urged marco rubio to get out. conservatives would do a lot better if there was less finger pointing and morro bus discussion of the issues. jon: steven hayes i know you'll be watching today and we will as well. >> thank you, jon. jenna: a local station goes from reporting the news to actually being a big part of it. what this man did that put a tv station in the middle of a murder investigation. the pentagon raplg up our defense system after new threats from north korea. general jack keane will join us with his take on the rising tension between our two countries. [ whistle blows ] hi victor! mom? i know you got to go in a minute but this is a real quick me,
bill: right now new information on crime stories we are keeping an eye on. police launch a homicide investigation in the case of a missing 20th century fox executive after finding his car inside a storage facility connected to a convicted drug dealer. the condition of the car leads them to believe gavin smith was murdered.
police also believe he had some kind of relationship with the drug dealer's wife. in the popular resort of cancun, mexico authorities say two gunman opened fire inside a bar killing seven people and wounding four others. most of the victims belonged to a taxi driver's union. and a man is under arrest for killing his wife after calling a seattle tv station and saying he did it. tony barrett called the station during their nightly newscast on wednesday and told them to post the store row on their facebook page. he was arrested after a high-speed car chase. jenna: back to one of our top stories today the growing threat from north korea. sources telling fox news the pentagon is ramping up security and resuming the eupl phra men taeufrgs its missile defense shield. this after north korea warned of a preemptive nuclear strike against the united states. general jack keane is a retired four-star general and former vice chief of staff of the army. are we safe, general? >> well, there is certainly a
growing threat from north korea. we know they have nuclear weapons. they are trying to miniature rise them to fix them to a missile and they've developed missile technology which they just tested back in december that is attempting to reach the west coast of the united states, obviously to include alaskan hawaii. that's where they are heading. we have to take that threat seriously. jenna: these intercept ters that we understand are going back into place, or they are being placed in alaskan california, how good are they? >> well, our missile defense technology is the best in the world. you saw a display of that to some degree with the attack on the israelis, because the technology they have and what we have is very close. so we do have the capacity to knock those missiles down to be sure, and certainly thickening that defense land base, but we are also thickening the maritime and sea base defense as well. jenna: we've heard so many threats over the years from
north korea, general keane. why do you think this time is different, or is it even different? >> well, it is different in terms of the evolving nature of the threat as we just discussed. they are increasing their capacity and capabilities. the passenger has got to take that seriously because they don't get involved in the emotion and politics of a threat, they get involved in what are the real capabilities. and these capabilities are real and they are increasing, so that is serious. the other thing is dealing with a new leader, kim jong un, and we still don't know a lot about him, and his reign is developing right before our eyes. he was seen at a artillery site recently which was the same site that fired in 2010 on the south korean island where they had casualties there. another thing is they have a new president in south korea and usually north korea has some kind of pof vocation after a new south korean president takes office. we don't know what he's going to
do, but i suspect he's going to do something in the next few weeks or months. jenna: what is also concerning to many analysts is the relationship between north korea and iran. there is certainly a lot of focus on missile interception on the west coast because of the geography with north korea. what about our east coast? what about their relationship with iran? should we be looking elsewhere besides just ask and california to beef up our defenses? >> the iranians certainly, as we all know, we've talked many times, are developing a nuclear weapon. they have missile technology, short, medium and long-range missiles that can deal with their entire region and also reach into southern and eastern europe. they do not have transcontinental missiles, so-called icbm's that we have. nonetheless the iranian developing threat is very serious. in some respects it's more serious than north korea, because they have stated time and time again that they intend
to dominate the region of the middle east. and so this weapons technology is part of that geopolitical effort. jenna: a lot of the efforts are defensive efforts, the missile interception. this is about a missile coming in and being able to knock it out of the sky. do you think for either situation, north korea or iran, instead of being reactive we become more aggressive military to put a stop to their threats? >> i think geopolitically our objective in north korea should have been for some time, regime change. i'm not talking about military force as you suggested, but a geopolitical clandestine effort that should be our goal and do that in cooperation with the south koreans. as it pertains to iran i don't believe for a minute that we should permit them to have a nuclear capability, given stated, clear lease, unequivocal strategic goals. and if it requires military
force then certainly we should do that. jenna: general keane nice to see you, sir. >> good saoeug, jenna. jon: a one hundred year old schoolhouse reduced to ashes and authorities say it may be arson. we'll tell you the latest on the investigation. also, a rare bipartisan fight underway right now on capitol hill as lawmakers try to save tuition assistance for thousands of our fighting men and women. we'll talk to one senator behind the effort next. calcium-rich tums starts working so fast you'll forget you had heartburn. ♪ tum tum tum tum tums
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shore say that that they suspect a schoolhouse was tied to the latest targets of an arsonist ring. several people they believe working together who know the area. first pictures now coming into the fox newsroom of the flames shooting out of the vintage building late last night. someone in a house down the street from this called for pe. crews from four other neighboring towns showed up to help out the local firefighters but they continue save it. the schoolhouse held a lot of memories as you might imagine. for seniors who live in the town who attended it when they were just children. lately it has been used for storage, mainly farming equipment, but apparently that had been removed thankfully before the fire. a tough week for that area really. investigators saying somebody also set fire and destroyed a vacant hotel on tuesday night. a restaurant on wednesday night. it's a problem getting more serious, because the county has some 600 abandoned buildings right now. they've even put together a $25,000 reward leading to any
information to catch and break up this arsonist ring. back to you. jon: that is really appalling. harris faulkner, thank you. jenna: a bipartisan effort is underway on capitol hill to restore the tuition assistance program for members of the military. the army, air force and marines suspended the popular program blaming the spending cuts known as sequester. joining me as one of the sponsors of the bill to keep this in is pep senator jerry moran of kansas. nice to have you back with us. >> it's good to be with you. thank you for the opportunity on this very important topic? we heard sequester was sweeping and in many ways irreversible. what exactly can congress do to change this? >> well, work its way through the senate today on a bill that's already passed the house, this weekend it's being negotiated, next week a sroerbgts is what's called the continuing resolution. it funds the federal government between now and the end of the fiscal year.
and so this is an appropriation bill that gives us the opportunity to make some adjustments in sequestration. what i think we have here is the administration was opposed to sequestration, didn't believe that we could afford the $85 billion in reduced spending, or what i really should say is reduce the increase in spending, and so it seems to me that they've picked many of the most popular and important programs to highlight how terrible sequestration would be, in reality $85 billion. jenna: you think this choice to cut this financial assistance is political? >> well certainly -- there is still more money there. in fact there is more money in these accounts than there was just several years ago and in many cases more money than what the president recommended in his budget last year. so it does suggest that there is this picking and choosing than of how to most affect the public so there is more pressure on members of congress to undue
sequestration. $85billion, a lot of money. it's only 28 days the amount of money the federal government borrows. it's something that is manageable. singling out these programs that cause great damage and cost to americans so that we respond, this bill gives us the opportunity to say, don't cut this but there are other things here that we don't need to spend money on, make priority decisions. jenna: so this is about a half billion dollars, $500 million that pays for this program. where does the money come from if they are not choosing to cut this. what do they cut in order to have the money for this program, or are cuts not needed? i'm sur just about where specifically you find the money to backfill for this program. >> for example, general aeu also have another amendment that deals with white house tours, and what we discovered was, we transfer money from the department of homeland security, they just two weeks ago purchased $50 million of tsa new uniforms, and how did that
become a higher pry on earth some of these other things? in that case closing the opportunity for americans to see the white house. i think what we're asking here is to use your discretion, use some common-sense, and make decisions that benefit the american people. almost any business person, if they were asked to cut a small percentage in the increase in their spending could say, well, we could do without this. but this is more important, and so i think this is the opportunity to clearly send the requirement, in fact the mess arpblgs but it's more tha message, and the requirement that this is a priority and there are other things that shouldn't be. jenna: we just got news that the easter egg roll is on for congress, and congressional families at the white house. it's a tradition, it's done every year. the easter egg roll is on for congress but the average american family can't go and visit the white house. what do you think of that choice to keep the easter egg roll on
for congressional members but regular families can't visit the white house. do you think that is fair? >> no, absolutely not. who would think that way? if there is anything that would reduce the perk or benefit for a member of congress, that's a low priority. get rid of it and spend the money on behalf of all of americans. i had constituents in this office, in fact we've canceled i think 16 tours. we have to call and say, i'm sorry the tour that you have planned to take at the white house for the last three months is no longer available. this week we had constituents in the office who had young boys with them, their kids, and for three months they've been planning to come to washington d.c. to show their kids the white house and you have to say, i'm sorry, we can't let you in. the white house won't let you in. get rid of the easter egg roll, if you can spend the money on letting americans n. i see the white house says they are now going to try a way to get young people in. kids, i'll all for that. what about the 90-year-old world war ii veteran who happens to be
in washington dc and has never seen the white house, the people's home. jenna: you're breaking some hearts, senator. i bet there are some of your colleagues and children that want to go to the easter egg roll this year. we'll see if they continue to have it. right now it's on. we thought it was a worthy question about whether or not it makes sense. >> i think it's great question and it makes no sense to me. it's silliness. jenna: senator it's nice to have you back on the program, thank you for the time. jon: brand-new information on the terror attacks in benghazi. a state department official speaking exclusively to fox news about the attack that killed our ambassador and three other americans on september 11th. what we know now about the americans who survived. and a defense witness telling jurors in the jodi arias murder trial she suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and memory loss after killing her boyfriend. our legal panel looks at her case next. our legal panel looks at her case next. >> by analyzing the data presented to me it confirmed
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third at the consulate where ambassador stevens was killed. three other americans left their lives in those attacks. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live from washington. has the exclusive report for us. catherine, what do we need to know? about these numbers and what do we know about these survivors. >> reporter: this is the first solid numbers of the state department employees where they were hurt and the severity of those injuries. a state department official confirms one agent suffered serious injuries at the annex, this was hit during the second wave of the attack. state would not comment on the circumstances, diplomatic security source tells fox news the agent suffered a severe head injury from mortar and rpg fire. this may be the agent secretary kerry visited in january confirmed by fox's james rosen. >> i can tell you i visited with unof the survivors at bethesda hospital who is remarkably courageous person who is doing, very, very well.
i called his wife and talk to her. >> will we hear from them? >> i don't know what the circumstances are of any requests to talk or not. let me say this about benghazi. fauz gauze -- benghazi was a tragedy that felt as a senator and i feel even more now as secretary. >> reporter: diplomatic security source told fox they believe secretary clinton did not visit survivors at walder reed. we asked the state department and they did not respond to that question, jenna. jenna: we'll look forward to that response. what about the response on the hill? >> reporter: several republicans in the house as well as the senate are calling on the state department simply to identify the injured and make them available to congressional investigators. so far their calls have been unanswered. >> the state department has not given us the names of those people that were attacked. that were there that have first-hand knowledge of this information. they have given us zero documents. they are allowed what is called and in camera review
where we look at documents as they look over our shoulder. >> reporter: in addition to the state department employees, fox has learned through its reporting the cia had approximately 30 personnel on the ground some that would be staff and contractors and we also understand there will now be congressional pressure to make those cia employees also available to congressional investigators, jenna. >> catherine herridge continuing to work this story. catherine, thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. >> the person engages in the an activity that is opposite what they stand for. the horror of that all, the inability to accept what has happened, can create in one's mind a psychological wall between them and the reality of what happened and that can occur by either denial, that they were there or that it actually happened, and there was evidence that she pretended it didn't happen, or, making up a story that was just the opposite of what happened to distance herself from that.
jon: well, that's the new testimony in the death penalty trial of the woman charged with murdering her boyfriend the psychologist who you just testifying for the defense telling jurors that jodi arias suffered from post-tramatic stress disorder and acute memory loss in the months and years after she killed her former lover, travis alexander. arias claims she did it in self-defense. alexander was shot in the head, stabbed nearly 30 times and his throat was slashed. so let's talk about where this case stands now with the dr. daniel bober, a psychiatrist and forensic psychiatrist. arthur aidala is familiar face on fox. former prosecutor and criminal defense attorney and fox news analyst. fred teece, a former federal prosecutor. to dr. bober, do you agree with what dr. richard samuels said on the stand right now? >> it is certainly plausible someone can have memory loss after a traumatic event but
that doesn't change the fact there was evidence of premeditation in this crime as well as trying to conceal it after the fact. so i don't think that the fact that she may have suffered memory loss is necessarily related to her guilt or innocence. i think it is just a phenomenon that occurs when someone experience as traumatic event. jon: also, doctor, she remembers things nobody else is able to remember. she remembers that travis kept a gun which nobody else has talked about. she claims to remember that travis had a thing for young boys. nobody else talked about that. but she can't remember anything about murdering him. >> exactly right. she has changed her story so many times and all her theories are unsupported. there seems to be no evidence or witnesses to corroborate her explanations for what happened. jon: all right. adam housley, our reporter, arthur, found some really interesting videotape. it's video of joe di when
she was -- jodi was first brought in for interrogation. the detectives were going at her four hours, trying to get her to crack and to admit she was responsibleable for the murder. she wouldn't do that. seeing her in court, that wasn't a surprise. look what she does. she gets on her head and does a headstand and singing and doing other stuff. what do you make of that. >> jon, as a world class athlete, doing a headstand having blood rush to your head is form of relaxation. the jury is so happy to hear anybody's voice besides jodi arias after three or four weeks of her being on the stand, number one. number two is what the doctor is saying is absolutely believable. i had a case, jon, murder. the prosecutor's doctors found that my client could not remember anything that happened. and i think that helps to 1%, maybe jodi's credibility if a doctor bolsters the fact
that she wouldn't be able to remember it. i also think juries in general like, percent. they enjoy experts. he is a down to either guy. at this point, jodi arias's only trying to save her life. i believe the tapes that you just showed will not be shown to the jury. hopefully only shown to the fox audience. so what we make of them is one thing but i don't think the jury will have the opportunity to make anything of them. jon: fred, you look like a world class yoga aficionado and jenna tells me -- >> i'm a world class wing eater and beer drinker s that an olympic sport yet? jon: jenna tells me in yoga when you get on your head it is supposed to center your body and empower the brain. why not introduce that to the jury? if you're a prosecutor wouldn't you want to show the woman standing on your head and singing? >> i can't stand on my head, depending who you ask, there are so many rocks in my point you would think i have a lower center of gravity but i don't.
i'm not so sure i would show that to the jury. i could read this two ways. you look how people act is indicative of mental state. if you or i were in a room and a police detective told us we would be charged with murder, i don't know i would be shaking and throwing up in the trashcan to try to hide under the table thinking he wouldn't look there for me. i would be scared in my mind because i knew i was innocent. this woman is carried, i'm almost speechless the way she was carrying on. as far as this expert is concerned, i had to write it down, i brought my legal pad. he said when people engage in being a activities opposite what they stand for. in order for the jury to buy into his nearry they have to believe everything this woman has said. the only person testified they were afraid because the guy unared at her was her the oh, by the way last week we noted she had no fear that day. his entire testimony, his entire opinion is predicated what she said. if the jury doesn't believe that, i think she goes down.
it is pretty tough to say you, a traumatic event you created now results in the loss of your memory. that is akin to killing your parents and begging for mercy because you're an orphan. jon: dr. bober, we don't have a lot of time left but quickly what does the head stand and singing in the interrogation room mean to you? >> that is a way to relief her anxiety or two, she feels so comfortable she has a casual demeanor. while the yoga moves might help improve flexibility it will certainly not help improve her situation. jon: i will do head stands on the set here. have a great weekend. dr. bober, fred, we appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. jon: adam housley is following the jodi arias trial he is the one who found the rather unusual videotape, he and his crew. he will be joining us with more of latest testimony live next hour. jenna: that is, we'll do
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jon: you know what today is right? it marks the beginning of la fallas festival in spain. over the next few days the streets of valencia will be filled with bull fights. or at least the bull rings will be filled with bull fights. parades in the street and iconic papier-mache floats. it is a tradition streaming back for centuries. alicia acuna is live from valencia, spain. >> reporter: hi, jon. behind me this cool structure is a fallas. this is the namesake of the festival known as la fallas. the communities of valencia work all year for this spectacular rite of spring. they are designed by artists
all over the country. more than 300 total, some costing up to $350,000 to make. and they can reach as high as seven, eight, nine stories high. then there are the children's displays. just as beautiful but much smallers. all are voted on by the peel and the winners go into a my see yumt which is a great honor here. another part of the festival is the daily firecracker show. listen. [firecrackers exploding] >> reporter: this happens in the center of town every day from 2:00 p.m. from the 1st of march until the end of the fiesta next week. >> you have to be here to experience it. once the explosions go off, you can feel it getting louder and louder. a symphony of noise and explosions. that is the way it is
designed. >> reporter: jon, back to the fallas. at the end of the festival next wednesday and thursday, the valencians will light them on fire. it is pretty orderly but there are bonfires all over the city. it is to mark the beginning of spring, the end of the old and the rebirth, the beginning of the new. jon? jon: that is quite a party. alicia acuna, thank you. >> reporter: oh, yes. jenna: well the state department is coming under fire for ducking a hearing on the american pastor that is jailed in iran. what's the reason? we're live in washington with more.
the plight of religious minorities in that country. elizabeth prann is live in washington with more. elizabeth, let's talk about timing. why is this hearing taking place now? >> reporter: there is certainly growing international spotlight on the human rights crisis in iran. the state department's absence was noted immediately during a capitol hill commission hearing focusing on the imprisoned american pastor, saeed abedini. >> one notable absence, is unfortunately is the u.s. department of state. i was amazed a hearing which was called to highlight the plight of religious minorities in iran, not to mention the imprisonment of one of our own very own american citizens was not deemed important enough to the department. >> there is a fundamental problem for saeed abedini's case. i'm a litigator. i spend most of my time. you look where is the problem the problem in his case is the state department is awol. they are absent without leave. they are missing. they did not show up. >> reporter: commission
chairman frank criticized the obama administration for not running, for turning down the invitation to testify. abedini's u.s. citizenship is not recognized by iran. he has been sentenced to eight years being criticized and accused of evangelizing and threatening national security. he was in the country building an orphannage. a state department spokes certain said earlier this month the administration is concerned iranians are not granting access it him and by our swiss protecting power and he should be released immediately. i got off the phone with a spokesperson said they're meeting with the family. jenna: we saw pictures of the family on our screen, elizabeth. what did we hear from the family today? >> reporter: we did. we heard from his wife. it was incredible emotional. nagmeh abedini held a picture of their children rebecca and jacob. her son turning five says nights are simply the hardest. her husband is amazing father and she recount his very dramatic arrest.
>> on the day he was taken and we didn't know where he was for a week, they kept coming to the computer, saying mommy, can we see daddy and can we hear his voice? i kept saying no, we can't. i couldn't explain for them why, he was taken to prison. finally, they were saying does daddy not love us anymore? does daddy not want to hear our voice anymore? i have to tell them, that he was in prison because he loved jesus. >> reporter: representative wolf says he will kept the record open for the next week for the state department to comment. jenna. jenna: thanks for following the story, elizabeth. thank you. jon: big names in the republican party are getting ready to fire up the crowd at the cpac convention. the latest from the conservative conference where we're expecting to hear from former presidential candidate rick santorum just a few minutes from now. new honey bunches of oats greek yogurt and whole grain.
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jenna: brand-new stories and making news this hour. lobsters and blueberry pie was on the menu at the president's charm offensive. will we see anything more than good food come out of meeting with republican lawmakers? juan williams is here. he will weigh in on all of that. new information on the americans injured in the deadly attack in benghazi. more questions on why the administration will not allow lawmakers to question the survivors about what really happened that night. are they even involved. >> what else do you do when you're accused of murdering your ex-boyfriend. the bizarre and particulars of skwroerd r- jodi arias during the police interrogation of the killing of her boyfriend. we'll show you more. it's all "happening now." leaders of the republican party are gathering for another day at the annual cpac conference.
we are glad you are with us, everybody, i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott, welcome to a brand new hour of "happening now." conservative heavy hitters are going on the record outlining visions for america and the republican party. a live look now at oxenhill maryland where former white house hopeful santa ana i sapbt ricrick santorum is to take the stage any moment now. among the speakers on day two, real estate mogul donald trump. senator kelly ayotte of new hampshire. mitt romney. louisiana governor bobby skwreupbd deginjindal, and former florida governor jeb bush. >> reporter: it's a potential stream of potential and wannabe 2016 candidates. some have said they are seriously interested, some have
hired a few people and some said they have not made a decision. this morning we heard from ryan were the chairman of the house budget committee to many across the country the running mate of the republican party, mitt romney's running mate paul ryan. he acted as something like a scold for the g.o.p. he says gatherings like this. it's really focused on the future of the party and how conservative principles can be protected and yet appeal to more minorities and women and expand the party's base. he suggested that all of the talk at events like this kind of misses the point. it's time to get out on the street and start actually meeting people, watch. >> we have to talk with them. we have to engage them. because leaders, leaders don't just speak up, they listen too. and if we listen more closely to the people we will find that the answers to our problems lie a whole lot closer to home. >> reporter: in other words, they tonight always live in
washington. there is always a lot of response and a lot of rhetoric at the conservative mythical action conference by trying to get public poll gentlemen and ideology back to the grassroots and voters who actually decide elections. later this afternoon we'll hear from others who are looking at the white house, rick santorum a former pennsylvania senator who was arguably one of the most conservative senators in the presidential race and came in behind mitt romney. he'll be speaking, bobby jindal the governor of louisiana has been a national leader in the g.o.p., harshly scolding the republican party. tonight at 6:00 jeb bush former florida governor, brother of one president, son of another will take the podium here. he has the keynote slot on friday night, in many minds there could very well be another bush-clinton race. we would be right back with history repeating itself if they win the nomination, even though in hillary clinton's case she
seemed inevitable and lost to barack obama. jeb bush says i'm talking about it, thinking about it, in the past he's always said no. at this pointy not said no yet. jon. jon: carl cameron interesting bit of a window on the potential history there, thank you. jenna: the lobster and blueberry pie, those things are history, the president lunching with the senate g.o.p. yesterday before his visit with republican house members, all part of the on going so-called charm offensive trying to generate a bipartisan agreement as budget negotiations really ramp up. house speaker john boehner says this is only a first step. >> i'm glad president obama reached out yesterday and visited with our house republican conference. i think we had an honest discussion. but this is going to take more than dinner dates, and phone calls, it's going to take the president and senate democrats rolling up their sleeves, making tough choices about how we solve our nation's problems. jenna: the president, however, putting the ball in the republican's court.
>> i think we have had good conversations, but ultimately it's a matter of the house and the senate both getting together and everybody being willing to compromise. jenna: juan williams is a fox news political analyst. that's it, juan, only dates and what do we have to show for it, either side, really? >> at this point you'd say nothing. if you want to be harsh about it. jenna, there is a reality which is that there is so much static in the air between the two sides, so much antagonism that actually i think there were some, important platforms laid out this week. one is, for example, the president simply said, this is not about 2014. i'm genuinely he said to the republicans, and the republicans in the senate yesterday, i'm genuinely trying to make a deal. and here are specific areas of commonality, areas where we agree, and of course things he had not said publicly, like here is what i'm willing to do with medicare which is a huge driver of the deficit, here is what i'm
willing to do so the peps could hear that for themselves and the complaint that there had been a lack of transparency. maybe there had just been john boehner or two or three people in the room, that starts to boil away. it's very clear one, the president is involved and two, that republicans and the president do have some common points of agreement, and three, that when he went before the democrats he said to them, you guys are going to have to make some sacrifices in terms of entitlement reform in order to get revenue from the republicans. jenna: let's talk about the timing. ed henry brought this up in a report last hour. you said the president says this is not about 2014. ed says the white house is aware of a timeline before he really reaches a lame duck. >> absolutely jo how do you think that is affecting the president that may not be concerned about his next term but his legacy? >> what this does is this whole budget negotiation is eating up time, in terms of the timeline that has him progressing towards being a lame duck.
basically after 2014 he's a lame duck. it's even earlier than that, jenna. once you quit into the campaigning for 2014, which starts basically in the middle of next year, you know, i'm sorry maybe even the start of next year. jenna: i had to think about what year we're in. 2013, 2014. >> if you start that you rile lies when a short window he has in order to exercise the leverage that comes from the sort of political momentum he gained in the 2012 election. jenna: let's talk about his comments when he was leaving the capitol yesterday. he said u know, basically, well they are going to have to figure it out too, like the republicans, and the democrats in congress have to figure this out. what is the president's role though moving forward? what role should he take in these negotiations after the quote unquote dinner dates that john boehner has mentioned? >> remember his numbers, his poll numbers have gone down in recent days. why have they gone down? because republicans have made the case that there was a lack of leadership coming from the president and the white house in terms of creating a deal,
getting a deal done. why did he simply accept sequestration instead of saying i'll do some things to make sure there was less pain. it looked like he was trying to create more pain when he was hyping it. this is the first thing he's done is to show leadership. if he has to i think going forward demonstrate to the american people that he is again involved in these negotiation joss what does that look like? we've seen the dinners and the lunches, what does it look like. >> it means he has to stay involved and make it very clear he's willing to come back, he's willing to have people in and he's willing to say specifically where he'd cut in those even times. he's taking the political risk. it's going to be very bloody on the democratic side the minute that he says i'm willing to make strong entitlement reforms. but republicans need that in order to take the blood that is going to come on their side once they say, yes, to any closing of loopholes and deduction has would drive up taxes. jenna: do you think after all these dates they are on text messages or what do you think they've moved onto? are they iming each other? what happens after the political
dates. >> it's a facebook analogy, they've friended each other. jenna: that's a good first step. we'll take it. thank you very much. thank you. jon: speaking among -- speaking about battles among democrats the debate over the keystone pipeline line is dragging on but could a brand-new bill just interes introduced in congress keep it from going down the drain? we'll talk to a republican and democratic senator who are sponsoring it. really bizarre behavior from murder suspect jodi arias singing, standing on her head, the shocking video you have to see to believe, next. ♪ [singing] ♪ you know my heart burns for you... ♪ i'm up next, but now i'm sging the heartburn blues. hold on, prilosec isn't for fast relief. cue up alka-seltzer. it stops heartburn fast.
a bipartisan bill has been introduced in the senate to give congress the power to approve the project. it will link oil sands with refineries and ports in texas. the $5.3 billion pipe loin has become a major controverts see. environmentalists opposing the project since day one, proponents say it would create thousands of jobs. two senators behind the bill are max baucas. and republican john hovin a member of the senate committee on energy and natural resources. welcome to both of you. this is not just canadian oil we are talking about. both of you represent states that have the bacan oil formation and oil from money than that a and north carolina would flow through this thing as well, correct? >> that's right. it's canadian oil but it's -pls north dakota, montana oil that
will be loaded on to the pipeline and shipped out. >> day one we'll put a hundred thousand barrels a day into the pipeline. jon: senator baucus why are we not building this thing yesterday. >> we should have been building it yesterday. we should have been building it four years ago. this has been studied for a longtime now. it's all about jobs. this pipeline is going to create jobs in construction, in running the pipeline, manufacturing jobs. it's high time it's been you about. i might say too that the state department has four times given it an environmental thumbs up. they said it's not going to damage the environment. it should have been built a longtime ago. >> nebraska was the last state that had concerns them. have signed on. the studies have been done. it basically just needs the president's blessing, right senator hovin. >> that's it. we passed legislation to approve the project once.
the president wanted it rerouted through nebraska, we've met that requirement, as senator baucus said it's been almost five years. i spoke with the president yesterday, he said he may take the balance of this year to make a decision. we've put by partisan legislation forward, we have a lot of support for it and it's to get the project going. jon: there is similar bipartisan legislation coming out of the house as we understand it. i read when the president met with some republican members of the house on wednesday he expressed concerns that this bill, the pipeline, woul as mans proponents have suggested. how would you answer that, senator baucus. >> it's going to create a lot of jobs, thousands of jobs. i don't think it's worth getting into the weeds as to whether it's 10,000 jobs or 15,000 jobs, it's going to create jobs, therefore it should be built, and also provides energy security for our country, for north america. it's a no-brainer. this should be built.
i hope the president approves it quickly. jon: the president some observers have said is afraid of angering his most liberal supporters who like his green energy platforms and so forth. he doesn't want too of offend them by signing into law a pipeline that will burn petroleum. how do you answer that. >> the fourth environmental review came out by his own state department and said there are no significant environmental impacts with the project. there will be less greenhouse emissions if the project is built than if it's not built. furthermore in a recent poll over 70% of americans said we want this project. all of those issues have been addressed. jon: we'll see what the president decides. he says he's going to wait maybe until summer i guess to decide on this thing. senator baucus, senator hoeven, joined by 12 other senators from both parties on this legislation. thank you for joining us today.
>> thanks, jon. >> thanks a lot. jenna: the president is preparing for his landmark trip to israel next week addressing the issue of iran's nuclear program. what he's saying now about the timing for iran to develop nuclear weapons that is really making some headlines. also some startling new video of jodi arias. we've seen her testifying for 18 days in her murder trial, but some newly uncovered video shows what she's doing during hours of police interrogation. we'll have that video for the first time here on fox ahead. ♪ [singing]
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in an interview with israeli tv the president repeated assurances that all options are on the table and renewed his commitment to finding a diplomatic solution. he also weighed in on what he believes iran's nuclear timeline is. >> right now we think that it would take over a year or so for iran to actually develop a nuclear weapon, but obviously we don't want to cut it too close. and what we're going to be doing is to continue to engage internationally with iran, understanding that we've set up the toughest sanctions ever. jenna: john bolton is a former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. and a fox news contributor. ambassador we've heard a whole lot of different timeline. what do you think of this one? >> let's pars words that is always the first thing to do with a pw-pl bam statement. he didn't say a year, he said over a year or so. i mean that is almost infiniti in the obama universe, number one. number two he's way off in his
estimate. it's much closer than that. jenna: why? >> because the iranians have enough low enriched uranium now that if they enriched it to weapons grade i think within three or four months they could have their first nuclear weapon. i think what is going on here is setting up the pressure that the president will be applying to israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu during the president's visit to israel next week to pressure the israelis not to use military force against the iranian program by pushing it out a year or more or so, that means there is a lot of time for diplomacy. that was really the thrust of the president's entire statement in that interest ooh. jenna: looking forward towards that trip happening, an important one ambassador. what in your opinion needs to be accomplished? >> what should be accomplished is that the two countries should put their alliance back on better terms. but i don't think that is president obama's objective. i think he's going with two main
messages, one leave the iranian nuclear weapons program alone, and two that israel has to make more concessions to the palestinians to get to the objective of the two-state solution to the israeli-palestinian problem. i think there will be a lot of symbolism in this trip, a lot of political photo ops, but it will be a rare occasion when the similar bow limbs is about as far removed from the underlying substance of the visit as you can imagine. jenna: why do you think the trip is being made now of all times that a trip could be made to israel. we know that the prime minister of israel benjamin netanyahu said spring, around this timeline, it was his belief that iran would be very close to a nuclear weapon, to having the capability. why do you think the president now is choosing this time, late march, to make this trip? >> well, i think a lot of people believe that he should have made the trip before the 2012 election, but that with that out of the way now he's going to israel on his own terms.
he has no domestic, political ramifications at all. he's going to say what he wants. i think the messages to the republic of israel will be pretty grim. jenna: we heard from the vice president last week reiterating the president is not bluffing when it comes to iran. here is what the president himself had to say a little bit more about what options are available. let's take a listen. >> when i say that all options are on the table, all options are on the table and the united states obviously has significant capabilities. our goal here is to make sure that that iran does not possess a nuclear weapon that could threaten israel, or could trigger an arm's race in the region. jenna: some have suggested that the administration may be comfortable with containing a nuclear iran, and that's part of the reason why we see a shifting timeline, as far as when iran gets the capability. what options are on the table,
ambassador? what options truly are on the table if the timeline that the president suggests is the timeline that we should take? >> well, implicit in saying all options are on the table is that the use of force by the united states is on the table and i just simply don't believe this. i don't think this president will use force against iran's nuclear weapons program, or in what may be the only worst case scenario, or case worse than that is that he would use force but not enough and we could get all the criticism but without the result that we need. i think the president's clear intention is to negotiate for the next four years, and what he fears more than anything else is that israel isn't prepared to accept that timetable, and as it has done twice before in its history will act preemptively in it's self be defense against a hostile state with a nuclear weapons program. jenna: do you think israel already has its mind made up about what to do?
>> i don't think they have their minds made up but i don't think they have much time to do it. i think iran's continuing progress towards a deliverable nuclear weapon means if israel is going to act on its own it's got to act pretty soon. it does not have the capabilities that the united states does and if it waits for the united states under this administration to act iran will get nuclear weapons first. jenna: ambassador we'll look forward to the trip and the news that comes out of israel next week. thank you. >> thank you. jon: well some startling new video on a story we've been covering for months. jodi arias on trial for the brutal murder of her boyfriend. she just spent 18 days on the stand trying to convince jurors she killed him in self-defense. since the death of travis alexander jodi arias' story has changed several times. for the first time on fox we are getting a look at new video showing her strange behavior during her police interrogation. adam housley is live in los angeles with that. adam. >> reporter: yeah, jon, one of
our producers got this video and went throughout entire thing. this is hours and hours of video of this investigation back in 2008 just weeks after she killed her boyfriend, and she would eventually be arrested at the end of these interviews, and i have to tell you when you watch this stuff it does give you a glimpse of the mind of jodi arias. it's the jodi arias you haven't seen. >> i can't stand your makeup jodi, gosh. >> reporter: arias caught on video more worried about her makeup than being charged with the grizzly murder of her boyfriend, travis alexander, a far cry from her interrogation just 15 minutes earlier. >> how many times was travis stabbed. >> reporter: after lying to police for four hours about the killing jodi finally begins to sing, literally. [singing] about what else?
memories. >> it might change my memories. [singing] >> reporter: ironic lyrics giving her memory lapses during trial. >> i don't remember. i just don't remember, things get foggy after that pint. >> reporter: what comes next is the most bizarre behavior next. from the woman who said she stabbed him in the head, stabbed him 27 times and slit his throat year to year in self-defense. a glimpse into the mind of jodi arias who is now dead serious when she says a jury should believe her story and spare her life. those were the highlights or low lights if you will. in fact there is another scene we didn't show you where after the interview was entirely done you see her walkoff camera and you hear the click of handcuffs and shedee been taken into custody after that. it shows you judge jurors are also very skeptical. we heard a lot of their questions. arizona one of the very few states that allows jurors to ask questions to the defendant and almost every single one of those jurors asked questions that were extremely skeptical of her story and you can see why when you
watch this video, jon. jon: strange stuff. thanks for bringing it to us. for breaking news and more analysis on this case that has received so much nation until attention tune in tonight. greta van susteren anchors brutal boyfriend murder right here on fnc. jenna: paul ryan just admitted his plan to slash our debt and balance the budget. are the mainstream media giving him a fair shake? our news panel weighs in on that. public tours are canceled at the white house. how much money does it safe? would the cuts make sense if they were done elsewhere? white house press secretary jay carney is our guest. he weighs in just ahead. girl vo: i'm pretty conservative.
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flimflam man. he writes, the good news is mr. ryan's thoroughly unconvincing poly wom to tph-rbonk act seems finally to have worn out its welcome. >> let's welcome kristen tin powers. what about it. what nobody is saying is that the president hasn't put out his own budget as he is required to do by law, he apparently got sidetracked by the sequester and says he needs another couple of months. >> yeah, well he says he will be proposing one, he did propose one last year. if that means anything. jon: which got no votes in the senate. >> exactly. whether the president proposes something or not doesn't change -- doesn't mean we need to give paul ryan a pass on his plan h. i think it deserves scrutiny and it's been getting
scrutiny. what he said is right you can't demagog during the entire campaign and do the exact same thing that you were tkepl going. i think it raises serious questions about his budget. jon: what about the treatment he's getting in the press. >> somebody like chuck todd doesn't understand the economy. he's a political reporter. it's time we separate political reporters from real journalists because they don't understand whaeut what is going on with the ryan budget. we can't have a serious discussion about entitlements if we are truly going to have political reporters hogging up the front pages of what is going on. it's time that editors put the economists, and those reporters, journalists who understand the economy on the front page. jon: paul krugman is an economist an didn't like it. >> he is shoved to the opinion side of reporting. jon: the senate hasn't passed a budget in nearly four years. what happens in washington? you worked on capitol hill, when you don't have a budget what
happens? >> they do continuing resolutions and they just keep doing continuing resolutions. the problem is -- you can keep funding the government, that is not the issue. the issue is there is no long-term plan. jon: and there is no benchmark. >> yeah, there is no vision. you have -- you need the president coming out and laying out, here is my long-term vision and this is the budget that i'm going to layout for us to get us to this point, and we don't have that,. >> it's solutions versus politics is what it is. jon: paul ryan lays out a budget, lays out his vision and gets hammered for it in the media. >> i keep going back to the fact that he is trying to have a thoughtful discussion, and everybody just wants to play politics with the issue, the media, other politicians, we don't have the thoughtful, let's have a discussion about entitlements. >> i think we do need to have a discussion about entitlements. i don't know how thoughtful this budget was. to me both sides of sort of staking out their ideological positions that are never going
to meet. the senate budget will not be anything republicans will support. and paul ryan as' is not anything democrats are going to support it's not serious to put out a budget is the premise is you're going to revoke obama care the central accomplishment of president obama from the first administration. >> which is always -- >> it's never going to happen. democrats will never support that. >> it may not be bad policy. i think it's tackling a really expensive entitlement. i go back to he is being thoughtful. it may be politically impractical but it's thoughtful. jon: all right. i will tell you what i learned in journalism school, my minor i guess was sort of economics, human warrants unlimited but resources are. and somebody has to figure a way to reconcile those two thoughts. >> and it's not the government. jon: nobody seems to want to. rick grenell, kirstin powers. p.
thank you. please jo join us saturday, 2:30 eastern time. jenna: you may not be able to talk but you remembered what you learned in college. that's pretty good. jon: i'll take that as a compliment. jenna: jon scott can do everything. new information on the september 11th terror attacks in benghazi. what fox news is learning exclusively about the american survivors of that attack and why we haven't heard from them. plus the president's so-called charm offensive now that the visits to capitol hill are in the rear view mirror did they real i do anything to break the budget stalemate. white house press secretary jay carney is here to talk about all that and more ahead.
wanted fugitives program. since 1950 there have been 498 people on the list. 467 of them have been captured. these are the most recent ten high profile fugitives on your screen right now. just added to the list this man a suspected gang member. edwin ernesto rivera gracias, wanted for the 2011 murder of a 69-year-old man. police say he was beaten, stabbed and then dumped in the foothills of colorado. with us now ronald p. hosco assistant director of the fbi's criminal investigative division. where do you think this guy gracias is right now? >> if i knew jon i would share that with the public. my suspicion is he's probably fled back to central america. but the purpose of our outreach today is to get the public looking for this person and others on our ten most wanted list. >> there is a reward at least in his case, right? >> in every case for a ten most wanted fugitive the reward
starts at a hundred thousand dollars. >> a hundred thousand dollars, that is serious money. that will get people to pay attention. is that why you find that most people are willing to turn in these list members? >> there is a range of reasons why people reach out to us. the reward being one of those reasons. but many citizens want to do the right thing, they see somebody who may be of interest to law enforcement and they pick up the phone, or they tweet us, or they contact us off of our website. jon: because it is the anniversary of the birth of that list we wanted to take a look back at some of those who have been on it. it took a team of navy seals and a dogged cia investigator to find osama bin laden. he was on the list for a while. ramsey usef was as well, but they are both -- they've both been, well apprehended you could say. >> that's right. they are both off the list. one of them is secure in the super max facility in florence, colorado, and the other one is
not with us any more. >> james earl ray wanted in connection with the assassination of doctor martin luther king. i actually spoke to him in prison before he died. but he was on the list. >> he was. there is a number of more notables on the list in the past, it includes ted bundy who was a notorious serial killer. miramar kazi who killed cia employees, and the fbi dogged lee searches for each and every one. >> eric rudolph was the guy who ultimately turned out to be the bomber of the atlanta olympic games. he was hiding away in the mountains of north carolina for years and finally got found in a dumpster doing some dumpster diving. >> that's right scro u.n. ging through dumpsters while cia
agents were looking for him. >> andrew k u.n kukunaan. >> he was wanted for killing johnny versace and it was a cross country manhunt for andrew c u.n. anan. >> we congratulate you at the fbi thanks for joining us. jenna: jay carney answers questions from the end ever the white house tours to america's injured in benghazi. he joins us live next. [ male announcer ] this is george. the day building a play set begins with a surprise twinge of back pain... and a choice. take up to 4 advil in a day or 2 aleve for all day relief.
jenna: "happening now" the president wrapping up three days of visits to capitol hill meeting with top republican lawmakers, and trying to reach a compromise on the nation's budget problems. how optimistic should we be after the week that we had. who better to ask than white house press secretary jay carney. jay, where does the presidency specifically some common ground to build upon? >> well, jenna, as you know he met with republicans and democrats, in both the house and the senate this week, and that's building on a series of engagements he's had with lawmakers, including as you know the dinner he had with a group of republican senators last week, and what he's looking for is a conversation with those members of the republican party, in particular who are interested in returning to a big deal, and to accepting the premise that we can find common ground here when we try to resolve our budget
differences and put ourselves on, you know, a deficit reduction path by agreeing that we should pair cuts to our entitlements, reforms to our entitlements with tax reform that also generates revenue. the notion if we are going to ask more of our senior and middle class families that we ought to last a little more from the well off and well to do through tax reform. jenna: let me ask you a little bit about that. the president has said that he's open to changing the way that social security benefits, the increase for social security benefits are figured out, are calculated. >> that's right. jenna: he said he's open to that as part of a big deal. if the president feels so strongly that changing that would be great for our country as a whole, why not just do it? why use it as a bargaining chip. >> that is certainly the republican line that we should do what they want to do and what is hard for democrats, but not what is hard for republicans. and that's not how a balance works. why should we ask senior toss give but allow the well off and
well to do to keep special tax loopholes an exemptions in the tax codes achieved largely through look beists work and not ask them to pay a little bit more. that doesn't make any sense. jenna: for the good of the country. if it's for the good of everybody why not senior consider it. >> what is good for the country is balance. if you don't have balance, jenna you have what we see in the ryan budget, the tax policy center policy said tk the tax cuts that go to the wealthy in the ryan budget would cost $5.7 trillion. guess who pays for that? middle class families. there is no way to get revenue neutral tax reform to the tune of $5.7 trillion without sticking it to the middle class to the tune of thousands of dollars of years. that's just how the math works. jenna: has anything changed in the last week. sorry talking about common ground and turning the corner for a bigger deal, something that could really help this nation. are things any different this friday from last friday? >> well the conversations have continued as you know.
one of the reasons the president asked lindsey graham the senator from south carolina to organize a group of sevens for that dinner the other night was because many republican senators have expressed interest in a bigger deal and some have explicitly said they would agree to a package of entitlement savings, reforms with tax reform that generated revenue. senator graham himself has said soess phrebgs italy. wha so explicitly. that's where the country is on this and the porls unequivocal. the only place you can find disagreement of the need to move forward with balance is on capitol hill among some republicans in the house. jenna: let me ask you a little bit about the white house tours. the president gave an interview earlier this week and he said this isn't a white house discussion it's a secret service decision but i'm going to ask, i'm paraphrasing the president, i'm going ask if they can figure out a way to get school kids in. he also said this is a consequence of sequestration.
so, jay, which is it? is there room to change this or is this the consequence of sequester? >> well, it is the consequence of sequester. i'm surprised to hear the suggestion at this late date that it's anything else. the secret service, like every agency in government has to cut its budget significantly because of sequester, that's how the law was written, and that's what everyone is doing, at defense and everywhere else across the government including the department of homeland security and the u.s. secret service. jenna: the white house will be open for the easter egg roll for families of congress but not open for families that are just you know regular families out there. >> actually, jenna, again if you did a little reporting you'd know that the easter egg roll is open for a lot of military families, a, b it's paid for by the sale of those eggs that come out as well as from donations on the outside. its a totally different budget. these are apples and oranges. secondly, the president did ask, and there are conversations on going whether or not there is
some accommodation that can be made for some tours to take place. but the overall policy of canceling the tours has to happen, because the secret service doesn't have the personnel to staff that very labor intensive process. if it staffed those tours with a full return of the tours they would have to furlough secret service agents and cut cut their pay which is not a happy option. jenna: as a member of a military family i appreciate military families are invited to the easter egg roll. a final question on the benge attack. there was exclusive reporting that three diplomatic security agents were injured in that attack and lawmakers and journalists would like access to some of these survivors. either these three or any others that are out there. is this white house preventing those survivors from speaking publicly or asking them not to? >> first of all, i have no knowledge of this story.
secondly, i'm sure that the white house is not preventing anyone from speaking. look, what happened in benghazi was a tragedy. it resulted in the death of four americans. from the instant that it happened the president ordered every action to be taken to insure that our embassies were secure, and an investigation was launched so that this kind of thing could never happen again. and this president also made clear that those who were responsible for the deaths of four brave americans in benghazi would be held accountable, and that investigation continues. our interests is on what happened in benghazi, and not on, you know, the political ramifications of this political debate that we've seen over the course of the last several months. and the president is focused on that. jenna: does the president have an official position at all in helping lawmakers or congress get access to the survivors? will the white house be part of that process. >> again, general aeu appreciate it. i'm not familiar with the story. i should have been watching fox earlier.
i'm sure we can get more information on that for you. jenna: that would be great, jay. you want to make this a regular friday thing? we are open to it if you're available. >> i'm always happy to be on your air. jenna: jay, nice to see you, thank you for the time. >> you too, jenna, take care. jenna: we'll be back with more "happening now." but that doesn't mean i don't want to make money. i love making money. i try to be smart with my investments. i also try to keep my costs down. what's your plan? ishares. low cost and tax efficient. find out why nine out of ten large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal.