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yep. the citi thankyou preferred card. now earn 2x the points on entertainment and dining out, with no annual fee. to apply, go to martha maccallum in tonight for greta van susteren. more on the breaking news of the president's apology tonight. that comes up in just a minute. but, also tonight, now even hollywood celebrities are starting to go after obamacare. the rollout drama is now the target of comedy. watch. ♪ obamacare by morning [ laughter ] >> why's it taking so long. >> how does that make obama feel? better off smoking crack than passing obamacare. >> this is getting on my last nerve ♪ obama care by morning ♪ over six served. [ laughter ]
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>> sponge bob and patrick visit the obamacare web site. [ laughter ] >> sponge bob -- >> obama and obamacare have become a joke. >> the government believes that the fewer options you have in picking doctors and networks the cheaper insurance will be. i frankly think it's the other way around. >> they don't care for us. they want to control us. they are narrowing your choices and as a result measures will be forced to find new doctors, new hospitals, new healthcare providers. nobody cares as much about you as obama and his fellow democrats. and to prove it, they are going to coerce you into living in a way they can control you. >> the house oversight committee releasing documents of so-called stress tests done on the site, the obamacare site, showing it could only handle some 1100 users to date before it launched. >> this was a failure to launch that they knew about on september 30th and went ahead anyway. >> sometimes it isn't.
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sometimes it is. and during those times individuals are able to get information. >> when you promise, carry out your promises. >> when people make a promise they know they can't keep, that's a lot harder to forgive, the. >> the consequences of not telling the truth to the american people i think are eventually the political accountability we are going to see in 2014. that's what scares the democrats. >> all right. so now we have. this fox news alert. president obama tonight just moments ago saying that he is sorry. he apologized to americans who have lost the insurance plans that he promised. they could keep. what happened? >> well, first of all, i meant what i said. and we worked hard to try to make sure that we implemented it it properly. but, obviously we didn't do good enough job and i regret that. >> do you feel like you owe these folks an apology for misleading them even if you didn't intentionally do it. they feel mislead and you see the anger that's out
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there. >> i regret very much that what we intended to do, which is to make sure that everybody is moving into better plans because they want them as opposed because they are forced into it, that, you know, we weren't as clear as we needed to be in terms of the changes that were taking place. and i want to do everything we can to make sure that people are finding themselves in a good position, a better position than they were before this law happened. and i am sorry that they, you know, are finding themselves in this situation based on assurances they got from me. we have got to work hard to make sure that they know we hear them and that we are going to do everything we can to deal with folks who find themselves in a tough position as a consequence of this. >> very interesting. he said i'm sorry that they didn't get what they thought they were going to get based on assurances from me. a clear reference to the promise that was made if you like your healthcare, you
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can keep it, period. end of story. joined now by former senior advisor to president reagan pat buchanan. welcome. good to have you here tonight. >> thank you very much. appreciate it this is hot off the presses so to speak. what's your reaction? what did you make of that apology? >> i think it's unsatisfactory entirely. for this reason. he is apologizing to the individuals who may have lost their policies. he is not apologizing to the nation, which was systematically and deliberately mislead, given assurances that he could not give and that he and his white house had to know were false in order to enact obamacare. i don't think obamacare would have been enacted if he had not again and again and again said y'all can keep the policies you have got and like. you can keep the doctors you have got and like. this is the whole american people that were mislead not simply those folks who, unfortunately, are taking the consequence of this by losing their health insurance. >> you know, i think that
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the ripple effect of this is potentially not to be underestimated. and you are right. the president has sort of compartmentalized the apology and said for those on the individual plans, he seems to sincerely believe, i think, that eventually they are going to like their plan better. but, it doesn't acknowledge the ripple effect, the small businesses that we learned about today. the big businesses, potentially in the future who are making different decisions based on this law. and it's changing everybody's understanding and everybody's reality of what they have got in their plan. >> well, you know, you not only have an estimated millions of individuals who are going to lose their policies and have to find new ones, more expensive one in many cases, but we don't know the effect right now of what happens when the employer mandate takes effect. how many of those programs have been changed and altered and how many are going to have to be cancelled? i think this is going to go on and on and on into the new year. and i think it's already
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beating the president badly he is down 40% and dropping. his credibility, i think, has been damaged irretrievably by this and i don't know where it stops. >> i'm curious what you think about the political side of this. because, no doubt, there have been some heated discussions in the oval office over whether or not the president needed to do what he did tonight. and obviously they made the decision, okay, we are going to go up there they called chuck todd for the interview. we are going to go up there and apologize tonight. do you think? the american people have a very good meter for truth. what do you think the response is going to be? did the apology itself feel sincere? like he meant it? like he is concerned that he is worried about what has gone wrong and wants to fix it? >> no. i will tell you what it looks like to me. and i have been a communications director in the white house. it looks like they got in the oval office and said we have got to do something. we have got to move our position. we have got to explain what happened to a degree here. and he went out and said, you know, i really regret all these folks that are losing their policies. i'm sorry about that respect
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to use an ancient term. this was a modified limited hangout. what the president of the united states and his people did, and i believe they know they did it is they went out and systematically deliberately reassured everybody. said don't worry about your policy. if you like it, don't worry about your doctor. we're just going to work over here and try to help some people that need some particular help and got real problems. and most americans, i think, relaxed and said, well, you know, we will go along with helping some folk. we can't overdo the money et cetera. we were deliberately mislead. what they have gotten is moved the ball a few yards up the field and they haven't really told the full and whole truth about what it was that they did. >> pat, do you think they have been surprised by the reaction, surprised that so many people on really from all spectrums are so outraged about how the web site worked? how could this happen? how do you mess it up so badly? 1100 people can get on at a time. it's nothing compared to what people are used to on
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the internet. do you think they are surprised by the reaction? >> i think with regard to the web site, look, that is a debacle. it's -- things happen. and that is a major debacle in this program. but the folks who said, look, they will get it up and running in two months and it should have been tested and heads should roll but we will get it up and the program will be fine, that's one thing. that is a mistake. that is a major mistake. and they ought to be held accountable. but that is of a different order, of a different character. of a different magnitude than the revelation that everything we have been told about keeping your own policy is null and void inoperative. you know, one thing is the web site but it is -- the tip of the iceberg i think for a lot of people who thought as you say that he they were going to keep what they had as the president assured them and are not able to ultimately. we did learn from these documents that revealed on that they were equipped to only handle 1100 users a day as i said.
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and the obama administration knew that the day before the launch. which politically, pat, i just wonder, what was going through their minds? and this goes back to my question about did they not think that people were going to notice? did they not think that they were going to be angry? did they not think that the press would be sort of all over them as they are from all corners now? >> what gets me is why -- look, they knew that was coming. they had to know that was coming. even though they had what, two or three years or one and a half years to get it done say this is not up and running the way we wanted it. we are going to move the individual mandate off for a year. we apologize for it. go ahead and do it and get it behind you. i think they just sat there and said uh-oh this thing is coming. hold your ears and wait and then they went ahead with it. >> what would have happened in the reagan white house if there had been a misstep of this order?
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would people be fired? would heads be rolling? what do you think? >> well, what reagan did is he delegated authority to people like ed mease and cap weinberger who knew exactly what he wanted. mr. president, we need your help you have got to go to congress. i think something like that they would be gone. that's all there was to it. in the nixon white house i remember wally mikhail they have got a big documentary about him. he sent the president a letter saying you are all wrong, you should talk to the kids about what you are doing in the war. but he leaked it to the washington star, somebody did. and then we were in the oval office, is he gone in november. that's it. he is gone. and i think that, i mean, that's what needed to be done, but the idea that they rolled it out, knowing it would be a debacle, that is something i don't understand. >> yeah. you know, another controversy we want to talk to you about tonight in terms of g.o.p. politics and it has to with new jersey governor chris christie just reelected in a landslide in new jersey as everybody well
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knows by now. 680% of the vote went to him. this is the cover that time magazine has come up with. the elephant in the room is what it says. and that has people wondering if it's a reference to the g.o.p. mascot, the elephant or reference to his weight. he is smaller than he used to be. is he large guy and he would be the first to admit that what's your reaction to that cover? >> i think it's all of the above. i think this, the reaction is going to be this. i think and it is not good for chris christie. is he too far out front. we are 26 months before the iowa caucuses and they are talking about the nomination now and you read about how the establishment and the money people and the chamber of commerce, they are all going to get together and tear this party away from the tea party. you know, the tea party and those folks, the traditionalists, the social conservatives, the libertarians, they are not going quietly. and, frankly, what i see is a civil war eamericaing in the -- emerging in the republican party. if i were chris christie i
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would take a far lower profile than i have taken now. go out under this. chairman of the governors go out and help everyone governor because he has got a reputation that sort of takings care of number one first. i don't think he is helped by this cover at all. >> interesting. all right. pat, thanks. a pleasure to talk to you tonight. thanks for being here. >> thanks. being forced to buy things that you simply don't want. our next guest feels that's what obamacare has done for him. he will tell us why he will have to pay extra for insurance and coverage that he does not need. righ
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big development tonight from the white house. president obama has just said that he is sorry to the americans who lost their insurance plans. he said that he promised that they could keep them and he apologize god those who have suffered that situation with their plan. a florida man found out that he is one of those people who liked his plan but couldn't keep it denny mueller joins us now. deny, welcome. good to have you with us tonight. my first question to you is what's your reaction to this apology tonight to you and others from the president? >> it's fine that he apologizes but we really don't want -- out here we really don't want obamacare, most of us. >> tell me a little bit about your story thought you
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were going to be able to keep you weren't. >> got the letter the other end of october from florida blue. and they told me that by the summer of 2014 get new insurance. go online and shop. i did. right now i pay 363 a month. it's a higher deductible but i can afford it i have decent doctor coverage and medicine. and unlimited i-there is no cap. now, when i looked online, the cheapest, least expensive was 547ish to -- for less coverage than i have to 7 to 8 to 900 for coverage that's similar and maybe a little more than i have but i can't afford that, and it has maternity and pediatric. things i don't need. i'm 60 years old.
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>> what did you do? what bass your reaction? did you reach out to anybody in florida to complain to try to figure out what you were supposed to do? i think senator nelson is kind of tired of me complaining because i write and he says it's just -- he says go to the web site and you will read all the rumors and what you are hearing is not true. well, finally, i faxed him that information and i says this is what is true. it's more -- i can't afford it. i don't want to be on the government dole. i think i'm just going to pay the fine because i can't afford it and i don't want to beg to the government. >> i mean, it's -- you know, in terms of the betrayal, you know, in terms of being told, were you worried about this situation before it actually happened to you? did you believe the president when he said, you know that if you liked your plan you don't have to worry? >> i never believed him.
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i never believed him when he got elected. >> so you think. >> i don't think the man has ever told the truth. >> you are angry. and, you know, i don't blame you. >> i didn't believe he tells the truth. >> in terms of what you are going to do now and what you're your plan is, the options you are being given on the web site are substantially more expensive. and, you you know, the president says that he believes and, you know, you you heard it from your senator bill nelson according to you as well that if you just hang in there and you actually lay this whole game out, that you will find that it is cheaper in the end. do you believe that? >> just for kicks i was going to check the subsidies but to do that you have to go on the government web site and that's not secure so i don't even shop that way. and honestly i don't want their help. i want to be independent.
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i don't want to be dependent on the government. >> you are not alone. >> i think i'm just going to let it be. i think i'm going to let it go and hope i can stay healthy. >> wow. deny, we wish you well. and we thank you for sharing your story with us because, no doubt, a lot of people are out there listening to you tonight and feel that they are not alone either as they try to figure this oipg out. >> no, and it's only going to get worse because the other shoe is going to fall. and the employers are going to start dropping people. >> a lot of people share that fear, sir. thank you very much for talking with us. thank you, denny. so how much would you pay to help people n. enroll for obamacare? it turns out in one state taxpayers just paid a million dollars per person for those who signed up. i know that sounds crazy but we will show you exactly where it happened and what the numbers are coming up next.
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. >> a wisconsin couple takes a football rivalry to a whole new level. the husband is a die hard chicago bears fan. the wife is a green bay packers fan. the couple made a big bet on last monday night's game. according to the husband the bet was he got to use a stun gun on his wife if the bears beat the packers. who does this? that's what they did. the bear's fan actually stun gunned his own wife, okay? and then he got arrested for it. so, we will see how that one plays out in court. for now we will let you be the judge. did the husband deserve to get arrested or not? go to and vote in the poll. i don't know what to say about that one. also coming up. country stars blasting obamacare on national tv last night on a very big awards show. and they are not the only ones. more on that coming up.
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$4 million. that's how much you, the federal taxpayers, paid the state of delaware to hire insurance marketplace guides. they are like navigators that you heard so much about, supposedly helping people to get their insurance and understand the plan, but it turns it out that those guides have only enrolled four people so far in delaware. that means it cost $1 million so far for each enrollment in that state. go figure. ap reporter randal chase is here with more. randal, it sounds unbelievable but that's the case, right? >> well, what's happening here in delaware is just a microcosm of what's going on around the country. the enrollment system is just very, very slow. >> so what are they telling people there about, you know, how they should go about it and what do you expect -- i know that the numbers are 31 applications, so four people signed up, 31
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applications. 218 created accounts. it's a lot of fuzziness at this point. we're going to get a national picture from kathleen sebelius in a couple of weeks. but, in terms of, you you know, how many people signed on, how many people go on to look, only four actually signed up right now. when do you expect to get better numbers in delaware? >> well, to be clear, the four is simply the number of people who have enrolled through the help of these marketplace guides. >> got it. >> officials here in delaware say the actual number is higher. they won't say exactly what that number is. but i have been told it could be around 50 or so. but they won't release official enrollment numbers until next week. >> that's not a lot on othe way to 7 million nationwide that they are hoping to sign up. what are you hearing from people about how the system is going for them? are there a lot more trying to get on and they can't get on? delaware is obviously one of the states that has its own state exchange. not every state does. it was supposed to be a little bit easier in the states that actually did start their own, right? >> well, actually, delaware has a partnership exchange
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with the federal government. so it relies on the federal web site to enroll people. anybody in delaware who wants to enroll has to go through the federal web site and that's the big hang up here. >> got it so this is a delaware healthcare commission in conjunction with the u.s. department of health and human services, correct? >> it's delaware health and social services. the delaware department of insurance. they are all working together to get this thing up and running. >> in terms of what the, you know, people in charge of all of this in delaware are saying we have been watching kathleen sebelius throughout this week and ms. tavenner as well explaining to everybody how things are going and what their expectations are are. have you had feedback from the people in delaware running it at all? >> of course they are disappointed that things haven't got better. i would point out that after the first month, by the october 30th, basically one month in, these marketplace guides had enrolled only two people. so they have doubled that number roughly in a week. so i guess you could say they are making progress. >> wow, a million dollars
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per enrollee. they have got a lot to do to amortize that -- i don't know what the $4 million went to. why did it cost $4 million to get four people to work as navigators? any idea? >> well, the $4 million is what four organizations were granted to help hire and train marketplace guides. they are supposed to be like 68 marketplace guides but only half of them have been about fully certified which means they have been trained and taken a test and undergone state and federal background checks. >> that's a pretty dismal performance so far. >> that clears them to use personal information for people wanting to enroll. but, you know, things are just going slow. >> okay. randal, thank you very much for being here. we will keep an eye on it? >> thank you, martha. >> thank you. the troubled obamacare web site landing a starring role in the cma country music awards last night. health was not exactly winning any awards. you will see what we mean coming up next.
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>> getting ready to speedway your way through the news. first up, the strongest typhoon in years. look at that typhoon. it has made landfall a short time ago we learned. sustained wind 125 miles per hour. gust winds 235 miles per hour. severe storm. experts predicting there could be catastrophic damage. now we go to dand where there is new video surfacing folks. you have you seen this the gift that keeps on giving. mayor of toronto rob ford in a rambling rant. he appears to be threatening somebody. talking about killing someone in this whole thing. the context of the video may not be about what it appears to be about. take a look. >> i'm telling you [bleep] but [bleep]. [bleep] no one [bleep] my
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brother -- don't tell me we are liars. >> so after the video was posted online and you know he knows who took it because they are in the living room of somebody's house. there had to be somebody sitting there with a phone the whole time. ford said he was extremely inebriated yesterday he admitted to smoking crack cocaine. he says is he not going to do it again he was in a drunken stooper. he want the rest of the world to move on. we will see. utah and dr. martin macneil accused of murdering his wife so he could with his his mistress today mistress gypsy taking the stand for the second time. she testified pretended to be married shortly after the wife's death. prosecutors resting their case and the defense has called a few witnesses in this case. closing arguments could start as soon as tomorrow in that one. now to wall street, twitter as you know made its big debut today. offering price of 26. buyers quickly drove that price up by more than 70% at
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the closing bell. it was trading up $44.90. not bad for a company that is difficult to nometize. country music association awards hosts brad paisley and carrie understood. she changed her clothes about nine times. they took time to make fun of obamacare. check it out. >> hey, do you have that obamacare? >> obamacare, what's that? [ laughter ] >> oh, it's great. >> it's great. >> what is it? >> signing up last thursday and i'm almost done. let's go to the web site and get you signed up. >> okay. ♪ >> let's see. >> can't be too hard, right? >> why is it spinning? >> oh it does that. >> why is it smoking? >> i don't -- maybe we should restart it.
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♪ obamacare by morning [ laughter ] >> why is this taking so long [cheers and applause] >> i'm going to wind up with hemorrhoids if i sit here till dawn ♪ we'll have cataracts and dementia oh this is getting on my last nerve obamacare by morning, over six people served. [cheers and applause] >> becoming the butt of joke a lot lately. greg gutfeld host of the. so much of that reminded me of he haw.
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>> i was going to say your hair has changed a lot. >> i'm martha not greta. >> do you know what's happening? >> the obamacare joke. >> it is the two. >> it smells funny over here. becoming part of the arsenal of comedy bit that will never go away like airline food and rude waiters and bad drivers because everybody understands how bad obamacare is. so that when you make the joke, it's now no longer an insider, washington insider issue. it's a public thing. it's a public phenomenon. and it cured, what i call obama joke constipation. nobody was making fun of obama. and obamacare is now the laxative. now it's okay to say okay, the best and the brightest are actually bone heads and common sense rules once again. and it's pretty devastating when you think about it because it's president obama signature achievement. and his signature achievement is now going to be his signature embarrassment. it's the rob ford of policy. it's a big sweaty mess. >> it'sing it'sing are interestg because, you know, for a while, the president didn't want to call it obamacare.
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>> right. >> then he said you know what? i'm okay with that because yes i do want to provide health insurance for the entire country. enough to i notice he doesn't call it obamacare anymore. it's become part of the collective american experience now that everybody kind of looks at each other and goes yeah, like they did last night. >> everybody knows what it is like to be stuck on a web site with the little thing just spinning and that's what this has become. if it just becomes a joke and it's there then it's essentially meaningless. people that fight against big government like me. i believe in small government. stick to the jokes then it's pointless. obamacare could be the slingshot that takes down the goliath that is big government. the thing that kills big government is big government. once it's in action, it's own enemy. i think at this point you have the opportunity to use its own weakness to destroy it. but just saying, enjoying the humor of it is not enough. you have got to get candidates out there that are talking about this and then go after the people that voted for it.
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if not, it's just idol jokes. >> it's interesting in that room last night, greg, because they are making fun of it some of the people in the audience look at little uncomfortable. some of them got up started clapping their hands, on board. country music awards. not that surprising that is slightly more conservative group. i noticed taylor swift kind of looked around she didn't know whether she should stand up or not or sit down in her seat and not clap. sponge bob is making fun of healthcare. it's expanding to larger. >> who knew. >> groups than just the country music awards. >> had knew sponge bob reads i rant. >> this is country music. if you make a joke at the oscars that is critical of obama. your next job will be cleaning andy dicks hot tub. that's all you're going to get. >> no one wants that. >> that's why you saw the uncomfortable faces in there nobody wanted to be seen laughing. you saw nicole urban's --
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kid man's husband. >> keith urban. >> didn't know what to do. his those froze like he overdosed on botox. that's what happens when you are an entertainer. you become kind of a coward. >> where does this go in terms of the therein influence it has on people. does anybody out there listen to this last night or watch it. i mean clearly people say oh i feel that way too. we are sharing this common experience. does it have any impact now that it has become a national joke on whether it has any chance of succeeding? >> jokes have a tremendous potential to kill bad ideas. once everybody understands. like there is a lot of things -- there is a lot of truth you don't find until somebody says something about it in a humorous way. once that's out there, it could have a greater potential than any politician ever had. this is an embarrassment and it's funny. that might be enough. >> laxatives. >> they have to use it. you have got to attach it to all democrats. >> greg, thanks.
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this is fun. >> yeah. >> good to have you here. >> great to be here. >> another show to do tonight. >> red eye coming up tonight. straight ahead more on tonight's breaking news just before we went on the air. president obama says he is sorry to those who say that they can't keep their healthcare anymore. but, is that enough? republican senator mike lee joins us next.
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all right, everybody. it is time to hash it out,
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right? dialing the wrong phone number, it can happen to everybody, right? even vice president joe biden. the "the washington post" tweeting joe biden tried to call boston's mayor elect to congratulate him. he congratulated the wrong marty walsh. the vice president making the post election phone call that they do exclaiming quote son of a gun marty you did it. he was actually speaking another marty walsh. the vice president wasn't alone on this one. dnc chair debbie wasserman schultz called the wrong dog lovers dream not tweeting central park proposal plus 16 pugs wearing pub shape balloons wears the ultimate proposal. listing a pug meet up group to help them pop the question. owners and their romantically decorated pugs showed up at the beautiful spot they surrounded the sweet hearts for the surprise proposal. the newly engaged couple is
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planning to what else adopt a pug soon and name it bo in harsh of their proposal location. that's a strange story, isn't it? the british royals taking a rare trip on public transportation. metro uk tweeting kate middleton and prince william take a trip to high street kensing tube station for london poppy day. prince william and duchess kate road on the double-decker bus there they are. they were touring a train station. they met with members of the royal british legion for poppy day. the legion working to raise money for charities benefiting great cause. in case you were wondering baby prince george did not make the trip. he was home taking a nap apparently. now it is your time to it hash it out with the "on the record" team. just use #greta on all your tweets and posts and coming up. the big story of the evening. president obama has apologized, folks. it happened about an hour ago. he says he is sorry to those who have lost their medical insurance. and he says he is going to do what he can to take better care of that
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situation. republican senator mike lee is here to talk about that coming up next.
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i regret, very much, that what we intended to do, which is to make sure that everybody is moving into better plans because they want them as opposed to because they are forced into it, that, you know, we weren't as clear as we needed to be in terms of the changes that were taking place. >> and i am sorry that they, you know, are finding themselves in this situation, based on assurances they got from me. we have got to work hard to make sure that they know we hear them and that we're going to do everything we can to deal with folks who find themselves in a tough position as a consequence. that is a fox news alert this evening. the president has said that he is sorry. a lot of people have said that was exactly what he should do. he has apologized tonight to
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americans who have lost their insurance plans who got those letters in the mail millions of them across the country. he said they could keep their plan and didn't have to worry about any of this new aca if they liked what they had. joining me now is republican senator mike lee. senator, welcome. good evening. good to have you with us tonight. >> thank you, martha? what's your reaction? what do you think? >> well, i think it's refreshing that the president is acknowledging that this is a problem. that he is acknowledging that he made promises that people relied on to their detriment. those promises were made on inaccurate information. he wasn't telling the truth. it's also refreshing to hear the president say he is going to do everything he can to take care of this problem. i look forward to seeing what that is i look forward to seeing action by the president to make sure the people harmed by his actions and incorrect words. i want to know what he is going to do. >> your colleagues, senator manchin and senator kirk have put forward legislation that would have a delay for the individual mandate like
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the employers got for one year. are you behind that? >> well, you know, i'm for anything that will ease the pain that americans are incurring as a result of the affordable care act. i think we have to look at each of these proposals as they come forward and study them closely to make sure that we are not doing something that's going to actually make things worse. i saw a study that was just released today by a group of actuaries who, having looked at this, have said you could cause a whole lot of additional problems if you just suspended the individual mandate and left everything else intact. you could see premiums actually going up even more as a result of doing that. we don't want to make things even worse for americans than they already find them. and so that's why it's important that we look with caution before adopting any sort of quick fix on this. what i suggested all along is we need a time-out on this line. we need to spent suspend the law in its entirety because the law in entirety is harming people. >> mary landrieu, the
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senator from louisiana, she would like to see a situation where people could do exactly what the president promised. that they could keep their plan if they liked it i don't know how you sort of put that genie back in the bottle at this point, senator. is it possible? >> i'm not sure that it is. part of senator landrieu's require insurance companies to keep them open. i'm not quite sure how that works. how after an insurance company has cancelled a policy they can be forced it reopen it. it's also my understanding that senator landrieu's proposal would effect only a tiny percentage of all health plans out there, leaving most americans still flailing under this unsustainable law that has caused so many people to lose their jobs and other people to lose their health coverage. >> senator, thank you. good to have you with us tonight. we will see you soon. >> thank you, martha. coming up we have caught on camera for you what in the world is going on in this operating room? wait until you hear the story behind. this that is coming up. and tonight at 10:00, a very
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special program here on fox news channel. it honors the life and legacy of the reverend billy graham on his 95th birthday. tune in for my hope america with billy graham. his birthday celebration underway in north carolina right now. don't miss the coverage tonight at 10 eastern.
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now it's time to tell you a bit of what we are watching. we put together the best videos out there tonight. take a look. it's not what you usually see in an operating room. what a story this is. a breast cancer patient starting a flash mob in the or just minutes before her double mastectomy. debra cohen wanted to make sure that her doctors and
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her nurses, everybody in that room was in good spirits. she threw on a beyonce song and boogied with the surgical team. ♪ all the single ladies. >> she went in there in the right mood. we wish her a speedy recovery. good for all of them for chiming in and helping her out. watch this video a russian rocket blasting the olympic torch to outerspace. the crew took the torch to the international space station. astronauts are going to take the torch out on a little spacewalk. it's all part of the festivities for the 2014 winter games coming up in sochi. and how cute is this? look at this. a toddler wearing a tiger costume playing a real game of tag with a real tiger cub 2-year-old marshall went to visit the tiger cub at the washington state zoo in halloween costume. became good buddies. that's what we are watching tonight. all good stuff. coming up next, stick around because brian kilmeade is about to join me.
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>> this is a fox news alert. tonight president obama apologized. he said that he is sorry. he apologized to americans who have lost their insurance plans. plans that he said they could keep. take a look at it and decide for yourself what you think. >> well, first of all, i meant what i said, and we worked hard to try to make sure that we implemented it properly. but, obviously we didn't do
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a good enough job. and i regret that do you feel like you owe the folks an apology for misleading them? even if you didn't mean to do this. at this point they feel mislead and you have seen the anger out there. >> i regret very much that what we intended to do, which is to make sure that everybody is moving into better plans because they want them, as opposed to because they are forced into it. that, you know, we weren't as clear as we needed to be in terms of the changes that were taking place. and i want to do everything we can to make sure that people are finding themselves in a good position, a better position than they were before this law happened. and i am sorry that they, you know, are finding themselves in this situation, based on assurances they got from he. we have got to work hard to make sure that they know we hear them and that we're going to do everything we can to deal with folks who find themselves in a tough
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position as a consequence of this. >> very interesting. when you really go through that and you look at exactly what the president said, he said i'm sorry they are in the situation that they are in, based on assurances from me. that is as close as he came to saying that what he said about you can keep your health insurance if you like it, you can keep it, period. that was an assurance from the president, so that was the closest that he came to actually admitting that he was misleading. but, basically, he said we didn't want people to be forced into another plan. we wanted them to find a plan that was better for them. so, a lot of people are going it look at this. parsing every word tonight and kind of thinking about exactly what it is the president said. and received a ton of tweets about this. one person tweeting moments ago. the apology should have been i'm sorry you now have twice as many uninsured as we did when we started messing with it. a lot of people finding this apology finding a bit short tonight. so, lots allot to think about and we will be covering it tomorrow as well. thanks everybody for being
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with us tonight. i'm martha maccallum. i will see you tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. in america's newsroom with bill hemmer. greta will be back here tomorrow night for "on the record" at our legal panel weighs in on why our panel is taking them to court. none of these stories on "red eye." tonight. >> and now let's welcome our guests. i am here with lori rothman.


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