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kiss or make out all day. the boston mobster was convicted yesterday and sentenced to two terms. he's a bum. 2015, not this year. got to wait for it. obama fix is in supposedly. is it even possible? this is special report. good evening. i'm chris wallace in for bret baier. president barack obama held the hour long news conference in which he admitted the obama care roll out was rough, crumbled and ultimately on him. the president proposed a fix for those who received cancellation notices from insurers after receiving assurances from him, if you like your plan, you can keep your plan, period. we have fox team coverage. jim looks at medicaid enrollment
numbers and staggering costs. mike emmanuel examines the costs. win dell good evening. the president has a fix he's proposing that might not do it either. >> vowing the pressure largely from red state democrats and congress, president barack obama offered a fix he said would remove the affordable care act as the reason people are receiving cancellation notices. >> current plans will extend to 2014 and americans who's plans have been cancelled can choose to enroll in the same kind of plan. >> president barack obama gave the conditions. inshuurers must explain what it doesn't cover and what additional plans they would get
under obama care standards. insurers aren't required to grandfather the plan. it's unclear how many will. in a written statement, changing the rules after health plans have met the requirements of the law could destabilize the market and result in higher premiums for consumers. companies may be reluctant to say no. >> if the insurance company says this is a logistical nightmare and not going to do it. who's the goat? the insurance company that refuses to do it. >> meanwhile insurance commissioners said, quote, it's unclear as a practical matter, the changes proposed by the president can be put into effect. the washington state commissioner has refused to do so. mr. obama proceeded to tell the botched roll out has been tough. >> i feel responsible making it harder for them rather than easier for them.
>> coming on the heels of the government shutdown he said he and congress have to reearn the trust. >> i have to win back credibility on this health care law in particular and on a whole range of issues in general. >> in a speech in cleveland later, the president defended his goal of expanding health insurance and vowed not to give up. >> we're not going to walk away from 40 million americans without health insurance. we're not going to gut the law. we'll fix what needs to be fixed. we're going to make the affordable care act work. >> the president's apology followed weeks of falling poll number, with attempts to defend and explain the broken promise. reaction was split along party lines. john boehner's spokesman said the president simply admitted what he denied for years. >> wen dell reporting from the white house. thanks for that. law makers are considering a
number of ideas on how to fix obama care. chief congressional correspondent is on capitol hill with what's going on there. >> senate democratic leaders said there's no need for a mix on obama care while recognizing this issue it wouldn't be easy. democrat senator mary landry of louisiana says she's supportive of president barack obama but will continue efforts. >> the president's guidance is a great step forward. i'm going to continue to work with the leadership. i'm open to working with democrats and republicans. if there's a legislative fix that's also necessary. >> fellow senators of north carolina and colorado also on the 2014 ballot say the president's fix does not go far enough. the two year extension is proposed. senators have allowed a bill for
states to opt out of the obama care. this is a fix of political band aid and some say it's all about politics. >> the president said today if you like what you have, you can keep it maybe until after the 2014 elections. >> how did the meeting go? >> on the house side after democrats met with white house chief of staff dennis mcdonough officials are feeling better now. >> i can say members were very pleased with the president's statement today that he would do what he could do administratively. >> the gop leader didn't respond to president barack obama going around the branch to repair the law. >> we have ideas to contribute mr. president. start working with the congress in a way.
>> mr. obama lacks credibility, he says. >> let's be clear. the only way to fully protect the american people is to scrap this law once and for all. there is no way to fix this. >> the house is expected to vote tomorrow on a bill for michigan republican upton to allow consumers to keep policies and insurance companies to continue selling them. democrats worry it's designed to kill obama care. >> mike on capitol hill, thanks. now to chief national correspondent who's taken a close look at the one enrollment figure that may ultimately have the biggest impact on the enrollment in the expanded medicaid program. >> those that qualified for medicaid, 396,000 of them, almost four times al those that signed up for state and federal exchanges. the reason is clear.
>> the system will automatically sign them up for medicaid even if they don't want to be on medicaid. >> once you determine income level, you don't have to determine subsidies. they don't pay premiremembeprem >> which is easier than getting paying customers there the malfunctioning website. >> it's not surprising that a lot more people are willing to sign up for a free medicaid program than to sign up to pais hefty premiums for private insurance plans. >> that's one reason the administration was relying on ed cade expansion by 9 million. the supreme court said the administration didn't have the power to force states to expand medicaid. the administration tried to entice states to expand coverage offering to pay 100% of cost three years and 90% after that. >> the new law makes money available, 100% of the cost of the newly eligible people.
when those sign up, there's no extra help for those folks. this is got to hit the state budgets and could hit hard. >> this miens the cost to the taxpayer is extraordinarily high. remember with medicaid there's virtually no copay, no premium, no income in essence to off set the cost to providing health care to those individuals. >> on paper, those on medicaid are insured but just barely. >> about half refuse to take medicaid because the payment system is too low. >> one woman in boston who was on medicaid told me she had to go down a list of $20 before she could find one to see her. i said were you going down the yellow pages? she said i was going the list medicaid gave me. >> the question going forward is how many pays customers will sign up? chris. >> that's the question. more on all this with the panel. jim, thank you.
up next, benghazi survivors tell their story. i'll talk to the member of the house intelligence committee who spent hours with them today. first, here's what our fox affiliates are covers. wofl in orlando reporting a giant sinkhole. several homes have been evacuated. it swallowed two residents. no injuries are reported. penalty for whitey bulger, two life sentences. bulger ruled boston's underworld the 1970s and 80s. this is a live look at milwaukee from witi. the big story, a shooting at children's hospital of wisconsin. the suspect was inside the hospital holding a baby when police told him he was under arrest. he put the baby down and fled. later when he flashed a gun, police shot him. he's being treated for wounds. that's tonight 's live look
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it's a moment those following the investigation of benghazi have been waiting for since the attack in 2012. survivors telling their stories to congress. chief intelligence correspondent katherine on how the testimony matches up with the white house narrative. >> behind closed doors on capitol hill, the five ci aurks personnel including former on the ground in benghazi released the investigations. the witnesses are offering new information that conflicts with earlier testimony. >> there are discrepanciediscre.
>> sources tell fox news the witnesses reinforce the vus that personnel were ill equipped to deal with assault. some contractors characterized the fight as consistent and constant. again this raises questions about the lack of military response. in addition to addition of four killed, one of the contractors testifying this week was so severely injured during the mortgager attack that he is not regained full use of his arm despite multiple surgeries. dip la mattic security agent has undergone multiple injuries for a severely injured leg, the procedure gnome as a limb salvage. the photo of the man is not shown in full. both patients at walter reed medical center. reed spoke to fox on background. after his death, young's widow gave us the permission to
broadcast the audio about the terrorist attack. >> it was a very very military type of operation. they had knowledge of almost everything in the compound. they knew where the gasoline was, where the generators were, where the safe room was. they knew more than they should have about that compound. >> at a separate hearing today, fbi director told senators he's not opposed to congress speaking with agabenghazi survivors. this could derail the criminal cases. thank you. for more on the investigation, we turn to california congressman republican deven. thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> the intelligence committee spent hours yesterday and today with five current or former cia employee, contractors, operatives. i understand hearings were classified. did you learn anything that
substantially changes your understanding of what went on in benghazi that night? >> yes. there are definite discrepancies. it's important for everyone of the american people to understand, these guys are american heroes and should be treated that way. my opinion is they have not been treated as american heroes. >> we're going to get to that in a moment. you say there's discrepancies. to the degree you can tell us, the areas in which there are discrepancies. >> this is real simple. i sent a letter to speaker boehner that outlined nine questions i want answers to. if you answer those nine questions, this goes away. it's that simple. answer the nine questions that i sent. now you we have conflicting testimony on those question. >> give me an example. >> for team, were they called in or not? >> what is the team?
>> state department counter terrorism team. were calls made for air support or not? >> let me ask you about one specific. this ties into the question could we have gotten there in thyme? there's a widespread question katherine referred to in the story. the attack came in two ways. there was a big attack that killed two americans at consulate then a lull of several hours and say second fire fight that killed two more americans at cia annex. >> there's conflicting testimony. i believe the survivors. >> the survivors tell you what? it was more constant? >> i don't think it ever stopped. >> which rises the question of course, if you think there's one attack and then it stopped that would help foster the argument well they thought it was over.
you don't need to send in backups. if it was continuing, it raises questions about why didn't they scramble to get somebody there? >> that is correct. >> have you got a satisfactory answer to that? >> no. >> this question out there about witness intimidation. were any u.s. officials, contractors, any americans either forced or required to have a polygraph test or to sign a non disclosure form? >> well, i can tell you the polygraph issue, there are other news organizations that stand by their report. as that relates to non disclosure forms, the cia director has been clear no forms were signed. i don't think that's true. i think it's offensive for me as a member of congress and somebody that watches the
intelligence committee to treat survivor this is way. who if it wasn't for them almost everyone would have been killed. >> you mentioned the fact you have reached out to speaker bay thorac -- speaker boehner. >> you're a member of the house. you called for an independent investigator to respond to this. >> if they don't ask the nine questions. if they want to answer the questions in my letter, they being the administration, this all goes away. answer the questions. >> they haven't done it for 14 months? >> that's right. >> why do you think you need an independent investigator? >> if we cannot -- all of these are not in the jurisdiction of the intelligence committee. we don't have jurisdiction over the state department for example. a lot of questions remain there. we take all committee work, if we can't get the answers and have the independent investigator if we can't get
these. >> as i say you sent a letter to house speaker boehner two weeks ago. >> i talked to speaker numerous times about this. the speaker wants the truth to come out. >> what does he think about the independent investigation? >> i'm not going to speak for the speaker. he's clear he wants the truth out. we owe it to four dead americans and survivors injured and future intel officials on the ground today all over the world. >> brief lirlybriefly, does he you may have to do that outside the committee? >> i believe the intelligence committee can get most answers. we may have to pull jurisdictions from other committees to get all you answers. the easiest way is for the administration to give us the answers. >> thank you for coming? >> my pleasure. epa proposes a slew of regulations. the not so friendly reaction is next. with my friends, we'll do almost anything.
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the epa under president barack obama has proposed a flurry of new regulations. second only to the department of health and human services. those rules have spawned numerous lawsuits and investigations and accusations of overreach. today the head of the agency found herself in the hot seat. correspondent shannon breem has more. >> her predecessor's alleged use of phony accounts along with claims policies are actually harming the environment. epa director mccarthy told the house committee she's focused on the law and being transparent.
>> i want to insure you were going to be and complying with statutory obligations. >> with 6,000 newly proposed federal regulations in just last 90 days, the lawmakers say this is anything but transparent. lamar smith says by law when ever the epa submits proposed regulation to the administration for review, it is required to also submit the the materials to an independent entity known as the science advisory board. epa is ignoring the law. >> there's a law that says you're to submit immediately. you haven't done that. that's not following the process. >> i'm happy to supply you with the articulated process that we use to comply with that. the process is clear by law that you're not following at this point.
i hope you will. >> they're questioning whether this is truly independent on epa proposals. board members are appointed by mccarthy. >> a built in bias here, you're trying to say somebody who's been given a grant and has reached conclusions is someone that we can then trust to have an unbiassed view after we've paid them in order to have a biassed view? >> mccarthy who says procedures are in place to insure no ethical lines are crossed is also dealing with controversy regarding ethanol requirements and the report by the associated press that claims due to the administration's ethanol policy, millions of acres have been destroyed. the environmental working group usually an ally of the white house is calling it an ecological disaster. stocks were up today with dow and s&p 500 once again finishing at all time highs.
dow added 55. s&p 500 gained nine. nasdaq picked up seven. the tsa program's suspicious behavior of passengers cost almost a billion. after the investigation, the government accountability office says the screening techniques are no better than chance in discovering potential threats. the report drew bipartisan criticism from house homeland security committee. at least one secret service agent has been removed from president barack obama 's protective detail after reports of misconduct. the washington post reports the allegations do not appear to involve a direct breech of president's security. this comes as the secret service is trying to restore the reputation after a prostitution scandal last year. a mass burial was held in tacloban in the grave the size of a swimming pool. it's the first mass burial in
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. we're getting more signs senator rand paul may be a presidential candidate in 2016. for instance, his visit to the first in the south primary state to south carolina. senior national correspondent john roberts spent two days with the senator as he courted republicans there. for the fourth time this year, rand paul touched down in the palmetto state pushing that if republicans win back the white house, they have to broaden the base. >> we won't win until we look like the rest of america. brown, black, white, with tattoos, without tattoos, pony tails. >> he must appeal to social conservatives. to win the white house he needs the middle. >> part of my message could appeal to moderates.
i think we shouldn't put people in prison for long period of times for possessing drugs. >> that was on the display at the military academy where paul tried to convince cadets and voters he's not their father. >> channelling the pentagon's chief, he says any investment must be the consent of congress. >> many people say president goes to war when he feels like. our founding father never wanted to give so much power to one person. >> paul's ongoing feud with chris christie. >> when you lose you fight more. there's a struggle to find what is the winning message and combination. >> he disagrees with christie's embrace of president barack obama in the, quote, excessive federal dollars. he said he'd support the
governor should he become the nominee. >> in all likelihood i can't imagine not supporting the republican nominee, including christie. >> he says it needs to remain in the party of young voters. he believes privacy rights would appeal to groups that spends much time on smart phones and the internet. >> john, thank you. tune in monday when senator paul will be a guest in the senator seed. he'll take questions from bret, panelists and social media from you. don't miss it. toronto mayor rob ford admitted smoking crack and buying illegal drugs is now receiving help for drinking problems. he didn't go into specifics. he apologized for using obscene language earlier in the day but gave no indication he intends to step down. republican congressman olson has used particles of
impeachment for high crime against holder. he claims holder destroyed th d. he sited operation fast and furious, irs tax scandal and investigation of our colleague, james rosen. in 50 year since kennedy's death many have talked about it. >> when he cut tax, everyone gained from the economy. >> he knew there was one way to annoy liberals. when advocating for conservative policies he'd invoke the name of john f. kennedy. >> you can type in kennedy. there's speech after speech in the closing days of 1984
re-election campaign for reagan. >> 51 times reagan sited jfk in the campaign. his focus wasn't to provoke liberals. they agreed on big things. reagan did locate himself on a continuum next to jfk. >> there are many people in the world that really don't understand or say they don't what is the great issue between the free world and the communist world. let them come to berlin. >> he opened this gate, tear down this wall. >> on reagan's signature domestic policy, tax cut, he found himself closer to jfk than
the establishment of his own party that famously dismissed the economics as kin to voodoo. listen to kennedy. >> billions of this bill would place in the hands of consumers and business men will have immediate and permanent benefits to our economy. >> kennedy cut taxes and the economy grew. federal revenues actually grew. you could cut the tax rate and grow the tax revenue. >> ira stole is the author of jfk. >> growth oriented economics and a great contribution of president kennedy. >> are you suggesting to us that john f. kennedy was a supply sider? >> absolutely. >> with regard to fiscal policy, he said the way to increase the revenue for the government is to decrease tax rates and by doing so stimulate the economy so it will throw off more revenues at lower rates.
that's conservatism. >> the tax cut. it was the liberal position in 1961, 62 and 63. republicans said that will make the deficit worse. >> those that see kennedy as the conservative he says misses the big picture. >> the tax cut would have been one contemporary term, that's right. if you divorce the tax cut for everything else he was fighting for in 1963 you miss the point. that was a very different thyme than it is now. that's the central point. >> different time of course. one thing hasn't changed. reagan used to say invoking jfk's name drove liberals crazy. the book has been called looney, ridiculous and the right's new favorite lie. it still does.
>> peter, thank you. president barack obama offered a fix to his troubled health care law. we'll talk about it with the panel when we come right back. stick with innovation. stick with power. stick with technology. get the flexcare platinum. new from philips sonicare. at od, whatever business you're in, that's the business we're in. with premium service like one of the best on-time delivery
the bottom line is insurers can extend current plans that would otherwise be cancelled into 2014 and americans who's plans have been cancelled can choose to reenroll in the same kind of plan. >> president barack obama announcing his so called fix today to make good on his promise. if you like you're health care plan you can keep your health care plan, period. time to bring in our panel. jonah goldburg on line, kirstin
powers and charles drougkrautha who we have to announce just reached number one on the best sellers list. n knocked off o'reilly. he's been gracious promoting the book and launching it. he's a classy guy and showed it. >> you think that's going to make him forgive you for knocking him off? >> not a chance. >> how much does the president's fix fix the idea of allowing insurance companies to sell the insurance policies they had been cancelling for millions of people? how much is that going to help the actual people who have been cancelled? >> it's unclear. talk to people in the insurance industry, they say difficult to get plans back. they cooperated with the administration, the law, bought into the law. they've been getting up to speed cancelling programs that were
non complying. the idea of recreating them is problematic. to me it's a political fix but a policy problem. this is a way for obama to say this is not me doing this, it's the insurance companies. he's throwing the insurance companies under the bus. they're mad about it. >> i want to pick up on that. the president was literally still speaking when america's health insurance plan, the lobbying group put out this statement. let's put it on the screen. changing the rules after the health plans have already met the requirements of the law could destabilize the market and result in higher premiums for consumers. if fewer younger and healthier people choose to purchase coverage in the exchange, premiums will increase and there will be fewer choices for consumers. kirstin and maybe this is a naive question, why on earth would the president and white house put out this fix without buy ins from the insurance companies? >> it's not just that.
insurance companies were told by the government last few years they were supposed to spend time putting together plans that were compliant, bronze, silver and all these things. they did hit and the president walks out and says forget that. we're going to do something completely different. a lot of people have switched plans. blue cross blue shield deadline is in a couple of weeks. i've sent in the paperwork to change plans. how are the insurance companies going to deal with this issue? he can't mandate it. he doesn't have the authority this. he's basically creating chaos. >> do you agree with jonah this is about -- i'm not really going to be able to get your old policies back, now you blame the insurance companies and not me? yeah. i think he's missing the point. i don't think anybody is going to forget why the insurance companies were changing plans and telling people they have to get aca compliant plans. this was not the insurance company's idea. >> charles, what's going on?
have we left behind the pretense we're making policy and this is all about putting out this fire? >> this is all ability show, appearances, and all about the president protecting himself and some democrats. politically, jonah and kirstin are right. this is not going to have real effect on those that lost policies. the insurers have indicated this is almost unpossible to undo. you can't put humpty dumpty back. everyone knows about opposition wall to wall constant. what he was getting especially after the statement by clinton, bill clinton who said a few days ago the president has not honored the promise he made. that's number one, a pretty big accusation. even though he had the pseudoapology. he needs to change the law.
democrats are furious at him. they went out on a limb, took all this mail from people that have lost their insurance plans. he doesn't want to change the law. so when what he does -- this is a stop gap. there's a bill introduced by republicans tomorrow. he was afraid of a stampede of republicans to support it and make him look completely isolated -- i'm sorry of democrats to join the republicans in changing the law itself. he decided i'll do an executive action as a way to at least allow the democrats to say we're drawing something. the miscalculation is these democrats have to have a vote. they have to support what the republicans are doing. they have to show on the record that they wanted to undo this disaster. that's why some of them will support the republicans tomorrow. >> we have a take a quick break. we're going to continue the
when it comes to the health care law, the white house doesn't have much credibility. let's be clear, the only way to fully protect the american people is to scrap this law once and for all. there is no way to fix this. >> house speaker john boehner pressing his political advantage over congressional testimodemoc who voted to pass obama care and we're back with the panel. as charles mentioned, republican
controlled house will have a vote tomorrow on something that i think quite appropriately is called the keep your plan act. which would not only allow people who have gotten their insurance canceled to keep those policies, but would actually allow insurance companies to keep selling the policies to new k customers. the big question, though, and again charles raised this, how many democrats will break with the president and vote for this bill. >> yesterday when i called around on the hill, people said you could see almost 100 o00 democrats. i don't think it will be anything like that now. on the senate side, they said they think this administrative fix gives them enough cover, which was the purpose of the administrative fix. but you saw steny hoyer this week say he wasn't sure whether he was going to vote against it. that was one of the reasons why obama had to do this in the first place. >> chairman of the house commerce committee and it's his bill the keep your plan act.
>> there is a serious debate, and you heard it in boehner's comments, they don't want to be seen as trying to fix obama care. they want to be seen as trying to rescue people from the damage obama care is causing. and if you go in there and try to say you're fixing it, it makes it sound like they're trying to make it bipartisan which is toxic on the right. >> you also have a similar situation in the senate where a number of red state democrats have already said they're not satisfied with the president effexor, they want legislation. and senate democratic leaders are saying there is no way we'll bring this to the floor and have a debate and a vote on legislation reopening the pandora's box of obama care. >> right. well, i don't think that the president's comments today will give them any cover in the house or in the senate for that matter. so they may want to rethink -- democrats may want to rethink that. like i said, nobody is going to blame the insurance companies for this. they are going to blame the
democrats for it. this was completely created by the democrats. and suddenly obama care has been turned into a policy that exists merely to protect people from substandard insurance plans. have you noticed that is the new talking point? when was that ever the point of this. now we're being told people who have insurance that they liked were stupid and they had bad plans and the government immediates to come in and rescue them from these plans. and that's a terrible message for the democrats. >> charles, as i was listening to the president today, i couldn't help but think there's a little technicality called the constitution. and the president we know some months ago unilaterally declared that he was pot goinot going toe the employer mandate for a year. now today you basically declared he won't enforce the coverage map date that mandates in the law that all of these policies have new expanded standards.datw that all of these policies have new expanded standards. can he do that? >> no.
you read my mind and he stepped on my line. this is entirely lawless, entirely -- and the fact that nobody is talking about this. the executive executes the laws. as you say, this is another example of obama rewriting a law unilaterally and nobody is complaining. the constitutional issue is out there. i think it's rather embarrassing that on either side of the aisle it isn't being raised. in fact what the white house is doing is saying i don't want to actually become legislation which would be the constitutional way of doing it. i want it only to be an executive action. but i think that there is another irony here, that the democratic bill by mary landrieu, who is in deep trouble in louisiana, she actually said on tape if you like your plan, you'll be able to keep it, she is the one who wanted to introduce a bill who would allow you to keep it. it is stronger than the republican bill in the house. it would force the insurers to take you back.
and it would be indefinite whereas the upton house bill, the republican one, is only a year. i do think it will kill the bill in the senate, but in the house, the president was afraid of being embarrassed and this will be cover and only a few will go over to the other side. >> to be tippcontinued, but tha it for tonight. stay tuned to see what really goings on in toronto mayor rob ford. it's not pretty. even at a distance of 10 miles... the length of 146 football fields... they can see the light of a single candle. your eyes are amazing. look after them with centrum silver. multivitamins with lutein and vitamins a, c, and e to support healthy eyes and packed with key nutrients to support your heart and brain, too. centrum silver. for the most amazing parts of you.
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we'll go get drupg abonk. >> yes, i have. >> thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it for special report. i'm chris wallace here in washington. greta goes on the record right now. a new fix or another fumble? >> the rollout has been rough, that's on us. that's on me. it's on us. we fumbled the rollout. >> it's not just a broken website now. it's a broken pledge. >> two fumbles on a big game. i said that i would do everything we can to fix this problem and today i'm offering an idea that will help do it. >> no one can identify anything that the president could do to keep his pledge that is both legal and effective. >> think of a belt and suspenders. what the belt will put forth will be one and what we will do will be the other. >> what we see