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>> it was great having you here. we can't wait for december 10 and the big show. >> thanks for having me. >> it's tradition! we can't have the christmas season without your tradition. >> have a great day. see you tomorrow. >> be yourself. bill: good morning, everybody. i want to start with a fox news alert. an american has been shot dead in benghazi. fox news confirming ronnie smith, an american was shot and killed near his home. nobody claiming responsibility for that murder. 11 islamic militants killed ambassador chris stevens and three others in benghazi last summer. >> the truck containing
radioactive material that was stolen has been recovered in mexico. martha: the investigators found the truck in an abandoned remote area with the nuclear material removed from the shipping containers it was in. whoever stole this probably the investigators think did not know what was in it because exposure to it could literally kill whoever was exposed to it within days. casey stegall joins me live from find this truck? >> reporter: it was not too far from where it was initially stolen. they did exactly what officials hope they would not do, that is open the device that the radioactive material was housed in.
it was housed in this white medical device that is shielded from radioactive emissions. but curiosity must have gotten the best of them. and they opened it. this exposed the cobalt 60, sending out radioactive emissions. now a perimeter has been set up in a process that could take days. police do not believe any residents in the area have been exposed. we are talking about a rural, unpopulated area. the thieves are missing, but it's expected they could not get too far. they were likely exposed to heavy amounts if not lethal amounts of radiation. martha: somebody they are searching for these thieves and they have the potential to become very ill very quickly because this is incredibly
dangerous material. how long do they think these people might have? >> reporter: depend how close they were and how long they were exposed to it. i talked to a radioactive expert who talked about how this material is rated on a scale of 1-5. 1 being the most dangerous to human health, 5 being the least. this is a 1. it's used to treat things like cancer. it was being transported from a hospital in tijuana when it was stolen. there were fears it could be given into the wrong hand for a dirty bomb. but now it's the thieves who are at risk. >> reporter: this could be a danger to the people who steal it and it could be a danger to the public. >> reporter: that's why we hope the reports don't change and we don't learn anyone else was exposed. martha: thank you very much.
it raises all kinds of questions. what if a theiror group was after this material. we'll talk later about what many consider to be a nightmare scenario that we need to get to the bottom of. >> another big story breaking. a massive hacker attack online. 2 million people learning their identities may have been compromised online. the hack attack hitting facebook, google, twitter and yahoo. if top companies like that are vulnerable what does it mean for the obama website which officials say very little security was built in. >> it's not a website that's highly secure and hackers are flocking to it to take krang of security risks that have still there. stuart, first let's talk about the hack of the social media
sites. what do we know about it? >> reporter: 2 million password stolen. twitter, fan *, gmail. but pass words can be changed. i imagine many people right now are changing password. that's in strong contrast to the kind of information that's available if you hacked into your account on the obamacare website. that's intensely personal information, it cannot be changed. it's your identity. and that's out there available for hacking. >> this is global. and i believe this attack took place in the netherlands. >> reporter: this morning mike rogers who is looking at the security of the obamacare website, that's a separate issue. he says that website has been attacked by national governments
overseas, and by criminal organizations overseas. he says shut it down because you are not guaranteeing the privacy and security of the information you have got to put in there. if you do log on to that website, the personal information that you have to put out there is truly personal. social security, home address, date of bit, citizenship and physical health and menlt mental health conditions. bill: what is the state of security that people have today on this webpage? >> reporter: it's not secure. yesterday at this time i asked dr. emanuel *, one of the architects of obamacare. three times i asked if he could look into the camera and assure our viewers the information they are putting on the website is secure. he would not do it.
he would not go near the subject. he would not vouch for the security of your personal information. bill: see you at 9:20. would you trust the website with your personal information, things that stuart just mentioned there, date of birth, social security number, send us tweets @billhemmer and martha maccallum. martha: we'll talk about interesting polls that point in the direction of young people and how they feel. the president is taking his pitch to the young people today. it's a plan he desperately needs them to be part of. but the new polls tell us the president they are they are not that into you. here is the president on this yesterday. >> my suspicion is for a lot of you between your cable bill, your phone bill, you are spending more than $100 a month.
the idea that you wouldn't want to make sure you have got the health security and financial security that comes with health insurance for less than that price, you know, you guys are smarter than that and most young people are as well. marthamartha: it sounds like the conversation he encouraged parents to have with their children over thanksgiving. less than one third of uninsured young people say yes, i plan to sign up. less than a third. they are cheap to cover and they help keep these high premiums down overall for the larger groups. steve hayes joins me now. steve, good morning. it feels like there is a desperation to this pitch in the last couple days. because this is crucial.
>> reporter: among the many, many things the white house is keeping the president up at night at the white house is this fact that the distribution of people who are signing up for obamacare is low in terms of the quote-unquote young healthy, the white house estimated they needed 40 pert of those who signed up -- 40% of those who signed up to be in this group. the ones that have produced those numbers, the rate is 25%. these are particularly alarming poll numbers for the white house. martha: this is a group that was incredibly enthusiastic about this president and healthcare for everybody was one of the main things he talked about in his election. but look at this. obamacare approval among uninsured millennials, 18-29, 57% say they disapprove of this program. it's pretty incredible when you
think of how he got elected and the group that embraced him so heartily back then. >> there has long been some scepticism among millennials about the president's healthcare plan. what's new and different and most troubling for the white house is there is increased scepticism of the president himself. now you have got a situation where young people are sceptical of the law. sceptical of the reforms. they think they will pay for, they think the coverage will be worse and they are increasingly sceptical of the guy who's selling it and that's what's changed. i don't know that the president can gets that credibility back. the interesting thing is the drop in his support came after the revelations about nsa metadata collection and the coverage it got. he hasn't been able to recover among this group since that time. martha: when you look back at
the election numbers, when you say did you vote for obama, 55% said yes. the question would you vote for him today, only 40 per s -- onl% say yes. he sold this website that it would be flight their wheel house and they may be disenchanted with that pitch as well. bill: to the irony alert. president obama saying republicans could be responsible for people losing their insurance right before christmas. >> christmastime is no time for congress to tell more than one million of these americans they have lost their unemployment understand. what will happen if congress does not act before they leave on their holiday vacation. bill: it raised eyebrows because
5 million have lost their medical understand since the implementation of obamacare. martha: here is one of the architects of obamacare. harry reid is giving his staffers a pass on the whole plan. karl rove is coming up on that in a minute. bill: the crack smoking mayor of toronto. the news keeps on going on. new reports of his attempted payoff to drug dealers. martha: will trust be the big issue in the next he selection our pollster frank luntz. >> we have to pass the bill so we can find out what is in it. i stand by what i said there. when people see what is in the bill they will like it, and they will.
martha: more from the startling mayor of toronto. police say mayor rob ford tried to buy the video that showed him trying to buy crack cocaine. ford and a drul dealer tried to get the tape back. unfades. he says he will run in -- unfazed, he says he will run in the next election. bill: harry reid is giving some of his staffers a pass. they can keep their government insurance. i think it was in september when he said we are going to be part of the exchanges, that's what the law says and we'll be part of that. apparently not. >> he was dismissing republican claims that congressional staffers could be exempted from the requirements that they go
into obamacare. this came in the form of guidance from the office of personnel management. he dismissed republican concerns about it. senator vittert suggested a piece of legislation be add as a rider saying every senate staffer be on it and reid said we are not going to vote on sit because everybody knows they will. he has two staffs. those who serve him as in his role as at that majority leader. he told the people who work for him as the senator from nevada. but the leadership staff he said you can keep your juicy, general federal benefits package that it used to have when i was in the white house. it's very good, low deductibles, low premiums and amounts to a
$3,000 to $5,000 a year pay raise. bill: he's the only leader of congress taking this route, though. and the law allow him to do this. >> it's unclear that the law allow him to do it. the office of personnel management decided it will give the right to members of congress to determine it. are you spried harry reid is a hypocrite? he's one of the most outstanding members of hypocrite when it comes to policy. he said everybody will be in exchange then he gives the top people around him a special benefit. if i worked for him in his office and was responsible for things to do with nevada, i would be jealous of the fact he has give' this special benefit for people who do the same kind of work but are in his leadership today. we know it doesn't sit well with
the american people. here is a survey. should congressional staffers be forced to obtain their health insurance through the exchanges? 80% yes. i would like to know who the 16 per ar16per who say no. this is what calls people to look at congress and say this stinks. >> you say between -- numbers are between 5.4 and 6.2 million. those aren't people. those are policies. those are the policies and most policies coverage multiple people. we don't know how many people have lost their coverage. i wout twice. we are talking 11, 12, 14
million people have lost share coverage. bill: it's reported president obama met one time with kathleen sebelius i in the leadup to obamacare. you said when the rollout happens that the first emergency meeting the montana calls at the white house was in mid-october. that would make it two weeks after the first of october. is that true? >> yeah. this was a report this weekend in the "new york times." the president is disengaged. we have seen his disengagement no more rightly shown than in this implementation of obamacare. he says we are finding out how difficult it is to purchase health insurance. has he ever had to purchase health insurance in his life or has it just been handed to him. i run a small business and i know how much agony goes into it
of year to get the understand for my people. the president has been disengaged from this process, nobody has been in charge. he's certainly not been in charge. the way he has handled it has been shown in the lousy implementation of this law. karl rove back home in texas today. martha: will florida state's star quarterback be forced to hang up his jersey? the investigation into allegations against winston are coming up. bill: winter weather alerts just about everywhere. old man winter is rolling in. how cold is it? [♪]
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temperatures. minus 40 in glasgow, montana. forecasters say the real deep freeze is yet to come. oh, my. it's warm on the east coast. i feel for these folks. >> reporter: that with temperature in montana, 40 below zero degree. you are talking dangerous temperatures across the rockies and northern plains. with advisories and warnings have been issued for many of these areas. in the city of denver, 29 degree below zero. this storm system will be with us the next several days. cold air has settled in and i want to show you the actual high temperature.
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theme. >> the combined threats of increased equality and increasing mobility pose a fundamental threat to the american dream, our way of life and what we stand for around the globe. martha: is that true? doug schoen and monica crowley are great friend of the show and fox news contributors. politically, doug, is this a theme that will resonate with people, you think? >> it does resonate. people believe it's an unfair society where the american dream is hard to reach. the problem is he's not you have aing any solutions or an approach toward economic growth and growing the economy and giving everyone a chance to go ahead. people don't want redistribution. but with the republican party offering very little his message
resonates with the democratic base. >> if you don't think we should raise the minimum wage, let's hear your idea to increase people's earnings. you don't think of child should have access to preschool, tell us what you would do differently to give them a better shot. martha: increase the inmum wage and increase childhood education. >> he spoke as if he hadn't been president. he spoke as if he's on the outside of his own presidency. he has been president for five years. what we have seen in the speech and what we'll continue to see is more class warfare because this is who he is. he is a leftist and essentially a socialist. so he believes in waging the class warfare. when he talks about -- when he spoke about the american dream he has a warped leftist view of that dream. he believes the state should use
its to force greater income he:quality. when government do that it's essentially called communism. the american dream is built on limited government and economic freedom. policies can be put in place, growth policies, tax cuts, corporate taxes being cut to get that growth going so everybody has an equal shot at prosperity. martha: let's take a look at some of these numbers. just verbally -- 1 per when asked what's the most important issue to you? 1% of the 18-29-year-olds thought that was important. jobs, unemployment rate, 7.3%. we note labor participation rate is historically low and continues to be so. americans on disability up three times since 1983. we throw more money at education, doug, than we have ever in the history of this
country and we have seen what's happening to our test scores. i think the president is getting at the middle class. improving the state of the middle class. but i don't know raising the minimum wage and increasing early childhood education is the ticket. >> i think those are good things to do. i'm a democrat. but the issue is what monica came to at the end of her brief presentation. the answer is growing an economy to give everyone a chance to get ahead. the american people are angry there is no real chance to work hard, play by the rules and get ahead. they are not looking for handleouts, even though you are exactly right, our level of entitlement payments has skyrocketed. most americans are decent hard working people who want a chance and that's what the president hasn't offered. monica is right. he should set an sea general today emphasizing growth. the americans should join him
and we should get a pro growth agenda like simpson-bowles. >> he's 100 per right it's something the president should be doing, but he won't because that's not who he is. he's been president for five years. he believes in what he called the fundamental transformation of the nation in 2008. all the things you laid out about record numbers of people on disability and food stamps. this is part of the leftist project. grow government as fast and widespread as possible in order to get as many people depend dent on government as fast as possible. when you have that. then they try to get a permanent democrat voting majority. this is what the leftist project is all about. we can talk about how normal americans want to see economic policies that promote growth. martha: it feels like there is a disconnect in the big message. we have been throwing more and more money at the problem and we
have been redistributing wealth consistently and it doesn't appear the u.s. economy. dog and monica, thank you very much. we'll see you soon. bill: will trust be the big issue in the next election? a new political ad using nancy pelosi's own word. you said this in march of 2010. watch. >> we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it. i stand by what i said there. >> reporter: pollster frank luntz will weigh in on this strategy. he's up next. martha: the little doggy knocked a little girl down. these things happen. that's beau and sunny. they are in big trouble. they are in the dog house.
martha: sonny, obama got a little too excited at an event at the white house for the holidays, knocking ashton garner over. you okay, sweetie? you can see michelle obama had a firm hand on that dog after that. she helped her. she's okay. up we go. all was foregiven. she got all those fancy pastry thes and cookies. the baker at the white house does a great job with it. bill: we are saying sonny is in the dog house at the white
house. it could be worse. the 2014 ad hitting democrats using nancy pelosi's own word against her. >> we have to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it. i stand by what i said there. when people see what is in the bill they will like it, and they will. i don't think you can tell what will happen next year. but i will tell you this, the democrats stand tall in support of an affordable care act. democrats stand tall in support of an affordable care act. democrats stand tall in you a spefort an affordable care act. bill: that at has been put out by americans for prosperity. frank luntz has crawled out from under his rock and he's back. you used to do some work for this group a few years ago, and you are no longer affiliated
with them, is that true? >> that is correct. bill: let many get to the heart of the issue. the issue is trust. how does that play out in that ad do you believe? >> that's exactly the point. you get it. it's not about the healthcare act that's important. it's about politicians refusing to accept accountability when they make mistakes. clearly the rollout wasn't effective and people have been thrown off their plans and healthcare is symbolic of greater problems. washington politicians are making promises to the american people that they cannot keep. it's the reason why congress is at an all-time low in credibility and popularity. bill: your point is it goes beyond the website. this will be a theme come next fall you believe. >> i think it will be one of the most important elections over the last two decade.
this will be the opportunity information the american people to stand up and say if you want accountability and want a government that's efficient and effective then you are going to have to go for change. this is important. it's not that the public wants a smaller government, it's that they want a more efficient and effective government. right now the healthcare legislation is taking washington in exactly the opposite direction. bill: you could also argue they want a more accountable. >> efficient, effective and accountable. and in terms of what they want from their politicians, it's common sense. nobody can say this healthcare legislation represents common sense in any way. bill: wear hearing from political extra jiftses. they will queue up -- political strategists. they will queue up these if they have poken one time.
5 per s -- >> they expect republicans will offer an alternative to this legislation. but they do not want washington control. to them healthcare is a personal decision between them and their doctor. they ought to have the right to accessibility and the choice of medical plans that are best for them. bill: gallup, has the new healthcare law helped you and your family. look at that bottom number. 69% say no effect. this is early december. once we start moving into 2014, do you expect the number to change? >> i expect the no effect to drop. i understand that obama has staked his entire reputation and administration on this legislation. but it's a mistake.
it go too far. it changes too much. it causes too much chaos. it raises prices, it deny choice and availability. i don't understand for a politician that's usually so effective and such a good communicator, this president has really gotten it wrong. pill * what he will argue is what's the alternative? now he's coming at republicans with that charge and you can expect we'll continue to hear that. what will they say in response to it? >> they are going -- i believe they have to have an alternative. i know some of them don't. they would rather focus on the president's failures. my hope is in january when they return for the next congress that they return with legislation that fixes those things that needs to be fixed and returns control of your healthcare to the american people. that would be the smart political approach. >> reporter: frank luntz, the strategist analyzing from both side. good to have you back.
martha: is your doctor making you sick? there is a new book that he it's the way you are being treated may be all wrong. bill: it's usually the police doling out the punishment but these comments have some police in hot water. >> look at me like a man. you want to grow up and be a man look at me like a [bleep] man. hi honey, did you get e toaster cozy? yep. got all the cozies. [ grandma ] with n fedex one rate,
four had to be euthanized. we wish them luck today. martha: a new book, a doctor says many doctors need to apologize to you for making you sick. dr. thomas snyder says mayor case overmedicated and says the focus should shift to preventative care and avoiding long-term medications. he's a trained physician, a former navy pilot and vietnam vet. it's good to have you here. let's jump right in. why should doctors apologize and why is it we are being overmedicated? >> our training is still based in the economy. pharmaceutical companies give us tremendous amounts of information on promoting their pills. and we were taught in a classic
sense that for one disease there is a pill. so if you get a health headache, there is a headache pill. if you have an upset stomach, there is an upset stomach case. that's simply not the case. we know it scientifically. everything should be a symphony approach. we have gotten to look at the 25th letter of the alphabet, "why"? looking for that why does not mean a single pill. we have become a pill factory. last year we killed over 100,000 giving medications. that's more than we lost in vietnam. martha: people have medications they take on a regular basis. they say i can't just stop taking this. my doctor will be mad at me if i tell him i saw this on tv and i want to stop take it. what do you advise him?
>> i advise him not to get my lawyer's number. but they do need to have a conversation with their physician and no longer be the child. so they need to be able to say to their physician what does the word doctor mean? it means to teach, not to write prescriptions or to bill. to teach. doctors teach me. if they are not being taught, they need to find a new doctor. martha: that's one of the hardest part. you believe in bio identical hormones, nutrition, all these things are contributing to wellness. and that will help you sort of stave off some of these things that the headache and stomachache are all centered in that. how do people sort of learn more about this and how would they go about finding somebody who might be more open to some of these idea. >> it's the toughest question
you can "me. there are 2,000 of nuts united states promoting integrative and alternative care. it doesn't mean you throw away standard care. but trying to avoid the complications. read as much as you can and take accountability for your own healthcare. just because your doctor thinks you should be taking a medication. you need to ask is it going to prolong my life or make my lifelonger or cut back on side effects? if not, how about nothing. and having a preventative lifespan. sleep, get your sleep, put down cigarettes, too much alcohol, sugar, drugs with side effects that you don't need. what's the next. eat a little bit. make sure it' mostly greens, exercise. 7 days a week. no day off.
and d, do something good for your self but mostly for other people. the chinese with a fray which is a passion to do well or others. and those people who follow that are mostly people who live to 100. if that's a about you, but i'll good thing. martha: sign me up for that. doctor, thank you very much. we just scratched the surface. thank you, doctor. bill: really good information here. i have breaking news. an american has been shot dead in pen gas which, libya. we'll have the update moment away. martha: about the new claims the president has overstepped his constitutional power in office. >> if the people come to believe that the government is no longer constrained by the law, they will conclude that neither are
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martha: breaking news here this morning, an american has been killed by a gunman in benghazi, libya, and the story that we are getting this morning is that this is a u.s., a young u.s. teacher out jogging and was shot down. we're going to get more details, we're working on that story throughout the morning as we start a brand new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm march this maccallum. bill: good morning, unknown attackers opening tire on this man out of texas who was working as a teacher this benghazi. that is, of course, the same talk about where a u.s. ambassador and three other americans were murdered in september of 2012. foreign affairs correspondent greg talcott on the story in this london. what do we know now,ç greg? >> reporter: bill, looks like we have another american tragedy this benghazi, libya. a young teacher gunned down and killed in broad daylight. it happened on a main street in the city, we are told, between
about 10:30 and 11 in the morning. he was jogging. people were waving to him. he's well moan in the area, we are told, and then a black jeep rode up, gunmen shot him through the chest and rode off. he was taken to one of the area hospitals where he was declared dead. now, we spoke to an add prer at the international school of benghazi. his name is ronnie smith, he was a chemistry teacher. he was 32 or 33 years old. he was from texas. it looks like he had a wife and a young son. he was there for about a year to a parent of one child at the school he was very well liked by the students. we saw a lot of tweets talking about him fromç students, and e was called by many of those students libya's best friend. bill, it's quite eerie. there was one other person could libya's best friend, that is slain u.s. ambassador chris stevens. bill: you're right about that. the current security situation in benghazi, it is sill not good, is -- still not good is
it, greg? >> reporter: it's very bad. again, we do not know why this man was killed. we do not know whether he was identified as an american or not. no one has claimed responsibility. but again, having spent a lot of time on the ground there, we can tell you it is a very dangerous place. of course, we know about the well known brutal attack in september of 2012 that left stevens as well as three other americans killed. the al-qaeda-linked ansar al-sharia is believed, suspected to be involved this that, but there's a lot of other bad guys in thatç city, it's jt one of many anti-western incidents that have taken place in the city since the fall of strongman moammar gadhafi. in fact, today we have heard of three other separate incidents in that city, three soldiers were gunned down. one more note be again, we soak with the school administrator there and, again, we don't know why this young man from texas was killed, but his words to us: it is time for the libyan government to stand up and fight against these kinds of things.
back to you. bill: greg, thanks. more details when we get them, certainly. that story out of london. martha: just a reminder of the background and what happened in benghazi last year. four americans were killed on september 11th, the terrorist attack on the consulate began about 9:40 p.m. that night. among those kills, u.s.ç ambassador craig stevens. the obama administration initially said it was a protest against a film that had come out. he was the first u.s. diplomat killed in overseas violence since 1979. and meanwhile, president obama's taking aim at his republican critics while trying to appeal to his base. here he is yesterday. >> if you still don't like obamacare -- and i know you don't -- [laughter] even though it's built on market-based ideas of choice and competition in the private sector, then you should explain how exactly you'd cut costs and
cover more pop and make insurance more secure. you owe it to the american people to tell us what you are for.ç not just what you're against. [applause] martha: so the president talking to a warm crowd there, but he was addressing republicans in that statement saying that they needed to come up with a better alternative, and he knows they don't like obamacare. bret baier joins me now. >> morning, martha. martha: we're in the middle of really a big campaign. it's almost like the president is hawking health care very hard over the next several days as he tries really hard to get this group of young people into it, and he's having a very tough time according to these new polls. >> yeah. that harvard poll is really something to look at. you all have dug into that. martha: yep. >> but, you know, you look into where young people are and whether they are going to get in there, and that's the equation that really the affordable care act is allç about, obamacare is
all about. and come march the seven million and even support beers say seven million is really optimistic at this point looking at the numbers, it's probably not going to include the equation that they need as far as young people of balancing out the older, sicker people. martha: yeah. you know, when you think back to the election and the enthusiasm among this group for this president and then you look at some of these numbers that are kind of the internals of this harvard study which i found really interesting this morning, this is just a broad job approval number for president obama. 54% disapprove. and let's look at the right track/wrong track which is always a huge number when you head into elections, 49% say that they think the direction of this nation is that it's on the wrong track, and 34% are not sure. only 14%,ç bret, think it's p n the right track. this is a big turn around for a president that has been hugely popular with this group of people. >> it's pretty amazing if you think about how much he's tapped into this group in two
elections. and you look at this group coming out of colleges, and there just aren't the jobs, and they're not seeing the jobs. and for a president in the fifth year, that's really where he's now, again, focusing. this health care relaunch is a tough relaunch, and that's why today he's talking to msnbc at american university with a live audience with kids, and he's again going to try to hit this youth angle. you know, yesterday, martha, he said bartenders should hold happy hours -- martha: yeah. >> you know, i think they're trying toç do anything they can to get this message out. martha: yeah. we remember the keg stand ad that was from one of the state exchanges that was trying to appeal to that level of 18-29-year-old life as well. let's take a look at another one here. this is a quality of health care issue. will the quality of care be better with obamacare, and i just want to emphasize to everybody at home, this question was asked to 18-29-year-olds,
okay? 40% think it's going to get worse, 37% think it will be about the same, and 18% say that it could get better. i mean, these are some very tough numbers for a president who, you know, appealed to the tech kind of coolness of this whole issue of this web site initially. >> yeah. and, you know, listen, what this has also done, all of this focus on this, the rollout has showé a spot -- shone a spotlight on the issue of health care and how much it's going to be a problem for a long time to come and that if doctors are not in the system, how is health care for medicaid subscribers going to be able to be administered, how are doctors going to be able to be found for some of medicare patients? martha: right. >> so i think young people are, according to the polls, starting to realize that long term there are going to be some bigger, bigger items that they're going to have to deal with. martha: bret, i just want to get a quick thought from you on
this, young kids are saying -- people, they're not kids -- that they care about jobs, they care about and the economy. and be i think that's going to be something we're all going to be talking about historically aç some point because people have always been telling this president what they cared about was jobs, but he has consistently tried to convince them what they should be caring about is health care. >> yeah. and you know what's really interesting, i think "the wall street journal" editorial today, martha, was pretty interesting to read in that historically president clinton, when he got in trouble, he went to the middle. and president obama, when he's in trouble, he goes to the left. and his instinct was to jack up the request for the minimum wage to actually increase what they're calling for the minimum wage increase from what he said in the state of the union. martha: that's right. >> you know, that's different than what bill clinton sought to do on jobs to try to work with republicans. soç two different ideologies
here, and i think you're right in that jobs is going to be the big ticket item. martha: yeah. perhaps the big missed moment and opportunity in the presidency. we will see. bret, thank you very much. we'll see you tonight. bill: we want to hear from you at home with continuing crchs over health care healthcare.gov. would you trust it with your personal information? that is our twitter question of the day. @bill hemmer, @martha maccallum. this big social media hacking overnight, a big deal, atexted about two million people. i'm going to see the bartenders are holding sessions at the bar -- [laughter] talking about health care. good luck with that. martha: can i talk to you about your health care? all right, this fox news alert for you know now, anç encouragg sign for the economy as the labor department reports a sharp drop in the new claims of unemployment benefits. new jobless claims fell by 23,000 last week to just under 300,000, that's nearly a six-year low. we have not seen a number this
low. of most economists were expecting an increase to 325,000, so once they break it down and take a look at it, find out how positive it actually is, but it looks like a good number this morning. bill: in the meantime, is president obama crossing a constitutional line today? >> if the people come to believe that the government is no longer constrained by the laws, then they will conclude that neither are they. that is a very, very dangerous sort of thing for the president to do, to wantonly ignore the laws to tryç to impose obligations on people that the legislature did not approve. >> that's michael cannon on tuesday this week, there he is live in a moment to tell us why he thinks obamacare is a power grabby the white house. we'll ask him about it next. martha: and sarah palin is firing back after msnbc host martin bashir has stepped down from his post, but were his over the top comments just an example of hateful speech from that network? howard kurtz has some thoughts on whether or not that's the
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constitution places on the government. abraham lincoln talked about our right to alter our government or a revolutionary right to overthrow it. and that is certainly something that no one wants to contemplate. martha: no, no one wants to contemplate that. very strong words from a hearing this week on capitol hill over whether president obama had overstepped his constitutional authority, and that man who you just saw spiking there is michael can -- speaking there is michael cannon. he is the director of health policy studies at cato, and he joins me now. michael, welcome. very good to have you here today. >> thank you, martha. martha: obviously, a very strong comment. you're saying that the actions of this government, of president obama,ç are so egregious that they could herbally lead people to -- potentially lead people to revolt. >> no, those weren't my comments at all. what i was trying to say is the president has repeatedly ignored the text of the patient be protection and affordable care act, and the constitution says the president shall take care to
insure that the laws are faithfully executed. martha: that's right. >> the president has given illegal subsidies to members of congress to protect them from the harms that obamacare inflicts on them. he is imposing taxes that the law does not authorize, issuing other subsidies the law does not authorize, and the point that i was making was that we had run throughç all of these options that you have for restraining an executive, and the point that i was making was that there's in this other one, and you don't want to do anything that gives people such nutty ideas. you want to make sure the executive is very faithful to the laws because you don't want to be giving anyone a reason to think that's a good idea. martha: understood. but we played your sound point. what i'm suggesting is that you're saying you think this is such a serious issue in terms of how this presidency is handling these issues, and the bounds that have been overstepped, that historically president lincoln
suggested that when that happens, the american people when they see laws being not upheld by the execut[ve branch, it leaves them to sort of logically conclude that perhaps those laws don't apply to them either and that that can and has historically led to either changing government, and in some very rare cases, revolt. >> you don't want to do anything that causes the american people to lose tate in the laws. martha: right. >> and certainly when the president oversteps his, oversteps his bounds, does things that congress is not authorized, does not faithfully execute the laws, then that can happen. martha: all right. so what's the recourse? i mean, how -- this president, as i'm sure it's not lost on you, was a constitutional professor himself. so no doubt he believes his executive orders have been completely within theç law and that he has abided by the constitution. why do you think he has not? what would you argue with him on that constitutional point? >> well, this is not -- so there are constitutional dimensions to this. but what's happening is the
president has been handed a statute and signed into law a statute by the congress, the patient protection and affordable care act or obamacare, it says certain things, and the president is ignoring what that says and implementing the law he would prefer even though congress did not give him the authority to do that. so that is a very serious thing. but there are remedies for that. unfortunately, it's very hard to invoke those remedies when half of the congress likes the way 1"tqi u$ey like the outcome. and so it's very difficult for congress to restrain the president. one way that it is possible to restrain the president is through the courts, and there have been lawsuits, four of them now filed, to challenge and stop the most egregious effort by the president to rewrite the law which as we discussed in that hearing is an attempt by the president to tax and borrow and spend $700 billion that the law does not authorize him to touch. martha: all right. michael cannon, thank you very much. it was really interesting
testimony yesterday and an important discussion to have, so we thank you very much for being here today. thanks, sir. >> thank you. bill: that missing radioactive material in mexico has been suc.i1ñ and it appears whoever stole it did not know what they were doing. that's a good thing, but what if they did? could there be a terror cell to get their hands on stuff like this? the nightmare scenario from an expert on that in a moment. martha: and she was a top gun in the '80s. i mean, that movie, what a classic, right? now word that the inspiration for the kelly mcgillis character in that iconic movie has just been promoted to a top position in the pentagon. cue the righteous brothers. bill: yeah, where are they? come on! ♪ ♪ i'm beth...
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♪ ♪ watching in slow motion as you turn to me and say, take my breath away. martha: there we go. defense secretary chuck hagel has a former top gun as his new wingman. christine fox will take over as acting deputy defense secretary starting today. she was reportedly the inspiration for the kelly mcgillis character in top gun back in 1986. she helped the navy develop tactics for defending aircraft carriers and instructed some of the young, hot shot pilots, but she says she was never romantically involved with any of those pilots, for the record. that is very interesting. and we are having a debate here about whether orç not top gun s a good movie, is a bad movie or is a good bad movie which is its own very special category.
bill: so is it a, b or c? martha: i think it's a good bad movie. you can't help yourself. if it's on, you're going to want to watch it -- bill: cheese factor was pretty high though. give me that, right? [laughter] martha: it's not often that bill calls out the cheese factor, but he did. bill: police in mexico recovering a stolen truck packed with radioactive medical equipment after a gunman stole it from a gas station two days ago. cobalt 60 inside, a highly dangerousç material some fear could be used to make a dirty bomb. jim walsh, national security expert with the mit security studies program with us out of massachusetts in watertown there. jim, hello to you. >> good morning, how are you? bill: bill i'm fine, thank you. and thank you for your time. is this the kind of thing that a terror cell would go after, cobalt 60? >> it certainly would. people who worry about terrorist a acts, this is precisely the material, cobalt 60, that people worry about because it is both
highly radioactive and come in a form that would lend itself to being strapped to an explosive and used in a bomb. so when this was first reported earlier in the week, i think itç kid send off -- did send off some alarm bells at the iaea and also in law enforcement. but as happened with all these sorts of incidents, including a famous one in brazil, what has happened here is that folks stole this not knowing what they had, and then they made the fateful judgment to open up the -- to break the seal on that cobalt 60, and i would -- if i were a betting man, and i'm not -- i would bet they're not going to be long with us. bill: really? >> if they opened it up right in front of them, they are toast. bill: really? >> yeah.bill it's that dangerous? >> it is that dangerous. it is amongst the most highly radioactiveç substances used in industry and in medicine today. you know, there's all sorts of -- you wouldn't know this walking around, but we are floating in various radiological
substances. some of them are highly radioactive, some of them aren't, some have a long shelf life, some of them don't. a lot of it being used in industry and medicine. amongst all that, only a few lend themselves to use in a terrorist attack, and cobalt 60 is at the top of the list because it is so deadly. bill: how much do you need of this, jim, to be effect be i have in order to concern effective in order to build -- >> well, you know, that's a great question. and and i think you need to góç back to the origin of the concept of terrorism. what is terrorism about? it's not so much about killing large numbers of people, although that happens, as much as it is about causing terror, the psychological state of terror. so for dirty bombs i think people sort of confuse them with nuclear bombs. a dirty bomb if it were ever to go off, more people would be killed by the conventional explosive than by the radiation. they'll be killed by the bomb, not the dirty part of the bomb. the stuff gets spread out and that causes economic damage,
psychological fears, but it's really not that -- as far as terrorist acts go, a dirty bomb, it's not theç radiation that's going to kill people, but it will have these other sociological -- bill: that's interesting. one more point specifically on the mexico case. so you think or we believe that these guys were after to hijack -- they were trying to hijack the truck and kid not know what they had inside. >> exactly. they probably wanted medical equipment that they could either strip or resell, you know, on the black market. and they got themselves into a whole -- bill for guys like you and security experts out of washington, how much of this occupies the time in terms of, you know, could it happen and how do you prevent it? >> yeah. i think after 9/11 we've seen in the department of homeland security and elsewhere more focus on@5q9ñ it's, you know, it's tough. it's a tough issue because as i said, we're swimming in radiological sources. so it's not something you can get out there and secure every radiological source. that's just not practical in the u.s., let alone worldwide. so it's really more defense than
offense, preparing the public, being able to respond if it happens rather than trying to somehow secure all of it. that's different from nuclear weapons terrorism where you can secure highly enriched uranium, you can secure plutonium, and there you use a very different strategy. bill: interesting. jim, thanks. we lean on you for a lot of this stuffer. >> my pleasure.ç bill: jim walsh in massachusetts. martha: as nancy pelosi famously said, we have to pass this legislation, obamacare, to find out what's in it. well, now a new surprise, and it has to do with the cost of your prescriptions. why these folks could be seeing some of their drug costs skyrocket. bill: also, a mystery customer changing the lives of some lucky waiters and waitresses from south bend the san francisco. one huge tip at a time. all in the name of jesus. merry christmas. >> you sure this is what you want to do? and the guy goes, absolutely, you know? i've made a ton of money in my life, this is my way of giving bicj.
and since american cellphone data might be caught up the aclu is concerned. they told the post that quote one of the key components of location is private. the only way to hide is to disconnect from the modern system and live in a cave. they are trying to detect any connections with the phones of known terrorist. a lawyer for the national intelligence says quote there is no element of the intelligence community that is intentionally collecting bulk information about cell phones. the nsa doesn't know how many american cellphones have been
tapped in this investigation. another day and a new surprise in the president's health care law. many americans could face sky high drug cost under obamacare. two members of the house republican caucus are with us. the article points out depending on the poliauolicies and the medication you take you might see sticker shot. who needs to be concerned? >> it is a surprise, but shouldn't be. many people are becoming acquainted with the concept of actually value. the bronze plans have that.
and that means you will pay 60% of the cost. i have had a high deductible plan for 16 years. i understand what that means. but i have never seen this. you are paying the first $6800 and that is a staggering sum for most to predict. this is all predictable and didn't need to come as a surprise so i thank you for bringing this to attention. >> this is hiv, hepatitis, cancer -- >> this is everything. asthma drugs. everything you might take that cost more than a few dollars.
and when has the confusion of federal dollars into a system every resulted in the price going down. >> what are you hearing in michigan? >> i have had hundreds of communication with people saying they lost their plan and it will cost them between 40-100 percent mer than what they were paying before. as the president's health care plan rolls out there are more and more higher cost. i have been opposed to the health care plan and as a physician i realized what a disaster it is going to be. it cuts $700 billion out of medicare and it is going to be difficult for rural hospitals to stay open and provide the access
to care that people in rural areas need. >> $700 billion from medicare and $300 billion from medicare advantage. what is the practical effect you believe in america starting in 2014? >> the sticker shock, sure, that is something we have talked about. again, remember what the affordable care act said it would fix the problems in the individual insurance market. it has made those worse. there is a cap on out of pocket expenses, but the president suspended that, probably because the insurance companies said there is no way we can price the plans for next year without this stop on the out of pocket expen expenses. so this thing changes and morphs
as it goes along. it wasn't ready for primetime. and americans will suffer. >> it is likely to change again. thank you both prom the house republican doctor's caucus. >> earlier we asked if you trust the federal health care exchange to keep your information security -- secure -- >> these are the answers: >> this one as for trusting the website with personal information i feel safer with my social security number on a bummer sticker. at least only a few would see it. >> thanks for sending those in. keep sending them in. >> we will read more at the end of the show. this whole security thing.
we went through this during y2k. this is coming back again. and the hearing in the house p emphas emphasis this as well. >> outbreaks of the measles are on the rise. why the warning on this now, john? >> well the warning is because the number of cases is increasing. it increasing. it is troubling. and 161 people in 16 states have come down with measles. that number has now passed 170 and that is the highest number since 220 people were sick in
2011. the greatest cases were among orthodox jews and 50 people got sick. 21 members of the mountain church in texas came down with measles. and north carolina, california, and virginia. most of them had not been vaccinated. many people don't believe in them for religious reason or worried it could cause autism. and some children are too young. but the center for disease control recommended everybody should get vaccinated.
>> many people think it doesn't happen in the united states. >> it is the 50th anniversary of the measles vaccine. the virus was declared eradicated in 2000. but there are 20 million cases of measles and it is believes those are coming into the united states from international travel. several dozen have been in the hospital. but no one has died this year. >> martin brashire has been fire after the comments about sarah palin. >> and talk about a rude awakening. watch what happens when a police officer boards a school bus backed with unruly kids.
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>> a police officer is in trouble after laying down the law on a school bus filled with students. this is how the officer respo respopd -- responded -- >> you think it is funny hiding your face? look at me like a man. you want to grow up and be a man, look at me like a man. she expects more out of you. >> another officer was cursing outside of the bus. there was a lot of cursing going on. both suspended without pay for two days and order to perform community service and verbal communication training. >> and you have no problem with this because you are from ohio
where more people swear than any other state. >> they were 12-year-olds. i think that was too much. >> no, you don't do that. >> yesterday we did a story on what states cuss the most. new jersey was number three. and i thought it was the ohio state/michigan game. and you thought it was driving around on the parkways. >> there is new reaction on the stories about sarah palin and martin bashir who resigned from his msnbc job after making crude comments about the former alaskan governor. >> it was refreshing to see many in the media came out and said the standards have to be higher
than this. those with the platform and a camera in this face have to have more responsibility taken. we brought attention to this as well. and martin bashir is gone and resigned from the network. this happened in mid-november and initially they did nothing. >> i have been among most who have been most critical of martin bashir's comments. i don't take pleasure in the fact he lost his job. i don't think he would have lost the job had the president of the company handled it differently. they didn't come out and denounce the comments. if they had suspended him for a
month and said they were sorry, i would have been okay with that. but by doing nothing, he became a liability for the network. >> it is a question about the leadership and there is a creed and specify if you did something and admit it is unacceptablunac. what does it say about the station? >> it was contrast of how tay moved with alec baldwin. but we all make mistakes. if you are on television live you say something you regret.
these are comments with graphics and i don't think they why let it build to this point. >> the question that is raised by what you point out is that obviously it would appear from the facts that a gay slur takes a higher priority than saying something about sarah palin. which at first was like everybody picks on her. >> sarah palin says there is a double standard picking on a n conservative woman. and i got flack on this. and this is about no one with a prat platform should make comments about defecating on a human being.
and martin bashir has a history of his thing. he was suspended five years ago for making comments about asian-american women. >> he is going to have time to think about it. good to have you. >> jenna lee and happening now rolls your way. >> a lot of good stories to get to. new numbers suggest enrollment is up and is it enough? we will weigh in on that. and the latest on the murder of another american in benghazi to tell you about. that is breaking this morning. and the ceo of ford is here to talk about the comeback of the american auto motive industry and we will show you the brand new mustang. >> convertible?
all of the tabs have been covered with one american express black card and that is available to high end customers with no limit. it is said he is a college football fan. he scribbled the fight on theme song. and in washington, the owner and staff were shocked when they received a $5,000 tip on a $575 tab. >> are you sure this is what you want to do? and the guy said absolutely. i have made a ton of money and this is my way of giving become. >> he thinks he was giving back to the restaurant that served more than 300 free meals to the poor on thanksgiving. sdwl >> why is this happening?
>> his instagram shows a word with the thumbs up from jesus and doing the work. the tips for jesus patron has doled out more than $50,000 from $500 to $10,000 in tips. >> i was more nervous than anybody because i pay them out out at the end of the night. it went throughout and they got the money. >> there is no sign the tips for jesus will stop. but the question is can he stay anonymous much longer? >> that is going to make a nice christmas for a lot of people. >> would have been nice to see him when i was working on the west side. brutal cold and ice oh out there. well-have more when we come
martha: all right, it's throwback thursday, 1923, utah brought an end to the era of prohibition. hallelujah for that, right? bill: cheers. martha: cheers, everybody. "happening now" starts right now. jenna: and right now breaking news on today's top story is the and brand new ones you'll see here first. jon: apple bringing it home, the latest on the tech giant's decision to add thousands of jobs right here in the united states. plus, a brawl breaks out at a christmas treeç lighting ceremony in philadelphia. what happened to the city of brotherly love? you won't believe what the two women accused of starting the whole thing were fighting over. plus, what may be a kidnapping caught on tape. now the search is on for the woman seen in this surveillance video being dragged away by an unidentified man. it's all "happening now." ♪ ♪ç