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the year began with a victory lap. >> republicans said they would never agree to raise tax rates on the wealthiest americans. obviously, the agreement would raise them permanently. >> it's ending in frustration and apologies. >> nobody's more frustrated than i am. >> what's behind the obama breakdown? >> there's no question we can fix this. >> the stories you haven't heard. >> i'll go to obamacare, right? >> this hour, fox news reporting "behind the obama breakdown." from washington, d.c., here's bret baier. >> who'd have thunk it? a tech-savvy team obama struggling to get a website up and running. conservatives going for defense cuts, confounding democrats. washington wondering if the
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progressives' capstone achievement may be their undoing. a freshman senator leading his party down a road its senior statesman would rather not go. we're going to try to make sense of the last 12 months. we start with another paradox of sorts. a cadre of young political activists mobilizing against the president's signature legislation. ♪ november 10th, 2013, the month after the obamacare exchange is open for business. thousands of university of miami and virginia tech fans party outside sunlife stadium. but this is more than a pregame tailgate bash. it sounds a lot like a call to civil disobedience.
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>> that's right. all right. >> though 29-year-old evan fineberg, the president of generation opportunity, would deny that. >> you've been traveling the country essentially telling people, young people, to ignore the law. >> no. not at all. >> come on, evan. we have cameras following you around and you tell young people to opt out. >> well no, doubt we're actually telling people to opt out. >> you girls are ready to opt out of obamacare, right? >> what? >> you're ready to opt out of obamaca obamacare, right? >> right. >> because that's the best possible decision forrar their health care. they shouldn't pay three times as much for insurance not to pay for themselves but to pay for an older sicker generation's benefits. >> he's talking if about for obamacare to work young healthy people must pay into the system but not make many claims on it. that way their premiums will subsidize older, sicker people, who statistically speaking will use a lot more health care
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services. on this day and this venue at least the word seemed to be getting out. >> with obamacare i'm going to have to pay three, four times more money for health insurance in premiums and deductibles and i think that's ridiculous. >> you're basically a community organizer, aren't you? >> in a lot of ways, yeah. we are stealing tactics from the last election. we're trying to get them motivated and involved to make a difference. >> the obamacare team relies on these young people being patsies. they will not sign up for this bad deal and that's why this law's going to fail. >> do you want this law to fail? >> our goal with 24 campaign is not to undermine the law. >> but evan, by doing what you're doing you are undermining the law. if you succeed the law does fail. >> well, that's the sign of a really, really terrible, bad law. >> or at least a law that's disappointed a lot of americans for a number of reasons. >> nobody's more frustrated by that than i am. >> breaking tonight, a new health care bombshell. >> this will be a story of an
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epic collapse. >> k5u8d the biggest political lie of the year. >> we're seeing this thing seemingly crumbling. >> millions of canceled policies. sticker shock. and of course the malfunctioning website. it all adds up to the most amazing spectacle of mayhem and meltdown anyone's seen in politics since watergate. says "wall street journal" columnist dan henninger. >> i don't think it's just obamacare that fails here p it's the underlying idea the democrats have promised the american people in the entire post-war period. government can provide good things on an almost limitless basis. and that is being shown with this act to no longer be true. >> columnist dan henninger wrote that 2013 will be remembered as the year when the whole progressive ideal fell apart. do you agree with that? >> no, i don't agree with that. >> reporter: freshman congressman john delany, a 34d md democrat, acknowledges
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obamacare's rough start, but insists suggestions that progressivism may be dead are greatly exaggerated. >> the progressive movement is about immigration reform. the progressive movement is about making investment in our kids so that they can compete in a global and technology-en5ibab world. it's about adjusting to climate change. and i think in the fullness of time people will say it's right. for 100 years american liberals had been lusting to create a truly nationalized health care system. >> reporter: charles kessler is the author of a book on president obama and his place in the progressive movement. >> under lyndon johnson they created medicare and medicaid. but that was far from being universal health coverage. when bill clinton failed, liberals and conservatives both thought that this was it, we had seen the high water mark of liberalism. but lo and behold, along comes barack obama and does the thing which had seemed impossible. this was their holy grail. >> their entire identity is wrapped up in the success of
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this law. >> reporter: conservative columnist george will. >> for a century progressivism has said we will have progress, bliss and paradise, if but only if we concentrate more and more power in the hands of all-seeing super competent experts who can do things normal americans can't do. that's what progressivism is. >> that's the tragedy of this as a person who supports progressive government. >> reporter: but kiersten powers says the problem is in the execution of obamacare, not the idea behind it. >> it really feeds into the conservative argument that the government's just dysfunctional, that they can't handle anything, that they'll just screw up anything they touch. >> obamacare is a turning point against big government. young people are hearing about this law. they're feeling its effects firstha firsthand. and they are running away from big government as fast as they can. >> reporter: and that's true, and some polls suggest it is, that would seem to be a stunning turnabout for the white house
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and this president. twice elected with the overwhelming support of millennials. and we will hear more from them later. but how did the o'xwbama breakd begin? it's a story fox news reporting cameras watched unfold throughout the year, in cities and towns around the country, as well as in the nation's capital, where politicians had to swallow some tough medicine. >> our investigation continues when we return.
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in a fox news poll taken at the beginning of 2013, 83% of americans said government spending was out of control. one attempt to stem the red ink was the sequester, a sort of parliamentary doomsday machine no sane lawmaker would dare set
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in motion. that was the theory. would it hold? >> do you actually see anything changing until we do hit some kind of government collapse? >> i hope not. >> january 31st, butts county, georgia. >> i believe in the constitution as our founding fathers meant it. >> reporter: that's congressman paul brown. president obama had republicans like him in mind when he proposed the sequester back in 2011. >> if we went back to the original intent of the constitution, we wouldn't have a debt ceiling problem. >> people need to remember what the sequester is -- how it came about. and that was over a fight over the debt ceiling. >> reporter: a fight andrew mccarthy of the "national review" says was picked by tea party republicans like brown. >> a lot of the professional politicians in both parties said oh, they're crazy, they're going to cause us to default, they're going to throw the world economy into kchaos, but eventually the forced a deal with the sequester
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on an unwilling washington. >> reporter: the deal was this -- if republicans and democrats could not cut $1.2 trillion out of the growth of spending over ten years, automatic cuts would kick in. half would come from domestic spending, half from defense. >> we're not doing it. >> reporter: that's why brown was torn over the sequester last winter. he desperately wants to downsize the government. except for the pentagon. >> we need to make targeted cuts, but we need to have a strong national defense. we need to spend more money on the military. the white house's calculation was that republicans would not be able to tolerate the sequester because of its impact on the defense budget. >> reporter: but former clinton adviser william galston says the sequester revealed something few in washington expected. >> it's turned out to be an x-ray of changes inside the
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republican party, where the automatic reflex of being pro defense has been at least overlaid with an equally important impulse toward smaller government. >> reporter: it would take months for that x-ray image to develop. >> i think both parties have a sense this will be a negative event for the economy. >> reporter: remember maryland congressman john delaney? well, on february 12th he headed to his first state of the union address. >> i don't think a sequester is going to happen. >> defense cuts were supposed to be a poison pill for republicans. they were never going to swallow it back in the conventional wisdom of the past. >> the president of the united states! [ cheers and applause ] >> democrats, republicans, business leaders, and economists have already said that these cuts, known here in washington as the sequester, are a really bad idea.
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>> reporter: true. but they disagreed on how to avoid them. republicans want entitlement reform. the president asks for higher taxes and new spending programs. >> i'm announcing the launch of three more of these manufacturing hubs. use some of our oil and gas revenues to fund an energy security front. put people to work as soon as possible on our most urgent repairs. make high-quality free school available to every single child in america. redesign america's high schools so they better equip graduates. >> our taxes are job producers. more spending because we continue to destroy jobs. >> last winter our cameras followed you through the showdown, the sequester showdown. and one telling moment was after the state of the union. was that speech a turning point that some republicans said he's not hearing us, this thing's going to kick in? >> the president's not hearing the american people. they want spending cuts. and they see that as the only mechanism where spending cuts are actually taking place. >> turns out the republicans
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almost liked the poison. it was clearly a blunder by the president. it was just a complete misreading of the opposition. >> it will eviscerate job-creating investments and education and energy and medical research. >> reporter: the president tried to convince the public that the sequester cuts would be too painful to bear. >> 3w0rder patrol agents will see their hours reduced. fbi agents will be furloughed. federal prosecutors will have to close cases and let criminals go. >> the president went into full chicken little mode. the sky is falling, he said. in fact, he said planes are going to fall out of the sky. >> air traffic controllers and airport security will see cut bakd backs, which means more delays at airports across the country. thousands of teachers and educators will be laid off. >> reporter: the problem is only a minority of americans fear the cuts. more think they'll have a positive effect, or make no difference at all. more ominous perhaps for the
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president, nearly half the country thought he deliberately exaggerated the effects of those cuts to try to scare people. and so on march 1st a unified republican caucus lets the sequester cuts go into effect. >> were democrats surprised that they actually did? >> i think each side was surprised. the democrats thought the republicans would be so upabout the defense cut they'd never let it happen and the republicans thought democrats would be so concerned about cuts to education and things like that that they'd never let it happen. >> and here it did. >> and here it did. >> reporter: the sequester only cuts a small percentage of increases in federal spending. but that was still a huge accomplishment for small government conservatives. then december 10th. democrat and republican negotiators agreed to set aside the sequester and increase spending, though they say their deal reduces the deficit. tea party groups howled. speaker john boehner fights back. >> frankly, i just think they've
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lost all credibility. >> reporter: december 12th. the house passes the billion. but 62 republicans vote no, including tea party conservative paul broun. >> does this budget agreement roll back what the republicans say they accomplished with the sequester? >> absolutely. there's no question. we've got to stop spending, and we've got to do it today. because that's the only way to stop this federal government that's out of control. >> reporter: months ago few predicted the gop would agree to ease the sequester. but that was before an ill-fated tea party power play that began in earnest last summer. >> thanks a lot. thank you. >> coming up, the limits of leverage. inside the long shot fight to defund obamacare.
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months before the new obamacare exchanges were to go into effect, more than three times as many voters said the law made them worried rather than reassured. that's according to a fox news poll in late june. in late july a majority of americans wanted it repealed. a new generation of gop lawmakers who thought they saw a way to do that were selling their strategy last august. >> i am very pleased to introduce senator ted cruz. [ cheers and applause ] >> reporter: 42-year-old ted cruz of texas is the son of a cuban refugee father and a working-class irish-american mother. princeton, harvard law, supreme court clerkship, the youngest state solicitor general in the u.s. he ran for senate in 2012, upset the gop favorite, and headed to
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washington with what he believed was one overriding mandate -- repeal every word of obamacare. >> i promised texans, i'm going to do everything i can to stop this failed law. >> you have someone who's dogged, determined. i've been in politics. i know horseflesh. >> reporter: democrat pat goodell began working in politics when jimmy carter was still a candidate for president. >> we've had someone who's been in the senate five months. he's the focus of the president, the vice president, every democratic mailing, because they smell something that scares them. >> the most significant divide right now. it's not between republicans and democrats. it is between the entrenched politicians of both parties -- [ applause ] -- and the american people. if the path to getting this done depends upon convincing people in smoke-filled rooms in
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washington, it can't be done. the only way this happens is if we break out of traditional washington rules. >> reporter: getting this done means killing obamacare before it fully takes effect. >> before now and september 30th we need to stand up and defund obamacare. [ applause ] >> reporter: september 30th is when funding for the government expires. cruz says that gives congressional republicans extraordinary leverage. >> the house of representatives should pass a continuing resolution that funds every penny of the federal government, everything in its entirety, except obamacare. [ applause ] >> what are the senators telling you? >> there was significant resistance internally. a lot of people were urging that we had just come through the sequester battle and we need to focus on that. >> there is a new paradigm --
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[ chanting "you have health care, so can we" ]. >> he has got incredible talent. he's not afraid of a fight. he has the judgment that goes with it, to be able to think through the policies. >> here's what you hear on capitol hill. senator cruz is incredibly bright. princeton, harvard, supreme court clerkship, all that. but he's not common sense smart about how to operate on capitol hill. >> if the measure is do you play the washington games, if you scratch my back i'll scratch yours, then they're right. >> when you first heard of senator ted cruz's defund obamacare effort, what did you think? >> i thought there was no chance whatsoever that president obama or democrats in the senate would vote to defund his signature piece of legislation. >> reporter: senator ron johnson, a wisconsin republican, was elected in the tea party wave of 2010.
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>> cruz and others were pushing this defund effort. they were raising money around the country to pressure republicans to support it. you didn't like that. >> i would have preferred the political pressure to be applied to democrats that actually support obamacare as opposed to republicans that, you know, share the goal. >> do you think democrats have thought harder to enact legislation that they've been trying to push through than republicans? >> they have followed through on their principles. and i think republicans ought to have the same commitment to principle. >> were you surprised the defund effort went as far as it did? >> no. because i think any kind of fight, whether it had any chance for success or not, resonated with the people that were so concerned about what obamacare means for the health care system, to our federal budget, to our personal freedoms. >> and to the economy. ever hear of a 29-er? you didn't before obamacare. fox's reporting continues when we return.
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obamacare passed in 2010, on the heels of the financial meltdown. the president pitched in as an economic boon to the nation. it would bend the cost curve, he said, help small business. not for nothing it was called the affordable care act. as the law takes hold, the economy's still sluggish. some americans are wondering if
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obamacare is one of the reasons why. >> i want to thank all of you for joining us here. i know i've heard from many of you ksh. >> reporter: august 28th, unionville, connecticut. democratic congresswoman elizabeth esty is hosting an affordable care act small business workshop. >> frankly, there's been a lot of confusing information, misinformation, uncertainty, and i wanted to make sure we're all sort of on the same page. >> reporter: it's a scene playing out across america. >> nobody has given any figures on what defines affordable. >> reporter: worried constituents asking what obamacare will really mean for them. >> they're going to start adding powers to them to qualify for employees -- >> there are going to be adjustments we'll need to make. and we'll find those out as the program rolls out. >> reporter: in fact, the obama administration has been making adjustments to the law nancy pelosi said we had to pass so that we could find out what was
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in it. 1,200 waivers to companies, unions, schools, and local governments. exemptions to congressional staffers. delayed deadlines like the employer mandate. >> which again, to me is smart policy. to try to do something transformative, to deal with the big problem, you get a feedback loop of what facts are emerging that you couldn't anticipate and then you make adjustments to improve. that's normal behavior. >> throw the law out. it's all got to go! >> but it's not normal behavior, say many obamacare krit icritic. they say instead it's quite literally lawlessness. >> obamacare really isn't a law in the traditional law. a document that's 2,500-plus pages long can't be a law in the sense of a settled standing rule of right and wrong. >> reporter: charles kesler of the claremont institute says the affordable care act gives to the obama administration and its bureaucrats what the notion of a
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living constitution gives to activist judges -- the ability to interpret the written law as they see fit. >> it is indigestible. it is incoherent. it's basically an excuse for bureaucrats and congressmen and congressional staffers and interest groups to negotiate forever the meaning of the law in a way that lines their pockets or favors their interests. >> reporter: equally indigestible, kesler says, the growing stack of obamacare regulations. reportedly 15,000 pages' worth. 71% of americans find that over the top. while the administration issues those waivers and exemptions, the president can't suspend the law of unintended consequences. >> don't get me wrong. my stores are top performers. so we made money. it was just on really small margins. >> reporter: bob westbrook of
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westview, texas said he won't be able to afford to buy health care for his employees or to pay ought bamacare fines if he doesn't. so he unload eed two of his piz franchise while he says he could still get a good price for them. >> just the penalty alone was going to be thousands of dollars more than we even made from the three stores. >> obamacare has put into our language some new interesting phrases. there are know 49ers. 49ers are companies with 49 employees that are just not going to get that 50th employee because it triggers all kinds of expenses and coercions under obamacare. and then there are 29ers, people working 29 hours a week who aren't going to be allowed to work a 30th hour a week because obamacare stipulates that someone who earns 30 hours a week is a full-time employee. >> when you hear that, what do you think? >> i think in fairness it's inconclusive whether that's happening. there's clearly examples of that happening and clearly examples of that not happening.
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>> reporter: by summer's end 57% call the way obamacare is being carried out a joke. some urgently worry that a government program so big and so complicated will be impossible to uproot once it takes hold. >> what is your gut? do you have confidence that this is going to snap. >> reporter: which is why some folks here in rome, georgia are pushing their congressman to move ahead with his plan to kill the law now. >> i'm going to tell you, you better bucket your chin strap. it's going to get a little bit interesting. >> reporter: tom graves' bill to defund obamacare is the first he's ever written. it will soon pit republican against republican. >> the best thing you could do is just turn off the tv for a month. right? you'll sleep a lot better. >> reporter: coming up, nothing focuses the mind like a deadline. and three of them loom over washington.
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brute political power. that's how democrats passed the affordable care act. but obamacare also fueled a tea party backlash that gave republicans control of the house of representatives. did that toe hold also give conservatives the leverage to kill the law? two new senators elected with strong tea party support thought so. ted cruz of texas and utah's mike leigh. september 10th, washington, d.c. >> only you can win this fight. >> the tea party is tired of losing. republican successes they think have succeeded only in delaying and minimizing the inevitable
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swelling of washington's power. they want to begin to win. and that frustration points you in the direction of an urgent strategy instead of tactics. >> if everyone who purports to be against obamacare agrees to do this, we can defund it. we can and we must. and together we will. [ cheers and applause ] >> right after the rally i sat down with cruz and leigh. >> you've been talking about this as the last chance to get rid of obamacare. do you believe that? >> what i've described it as is the last chance before obamacare kicks in on january 1st. and that's significant because we know that when a major entitlement program kicks in in this country it's really hard to get rid of it. >> we've got 20 days between now and september 30th -- >> congress is given the power of the purse. but it's a meaningless power if you don't say to the executive branch we are going to start, as
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ted cruz might say, defunding things. if you're not willing to use the powers that the framers gave to you rein in executive excess, you are inviting more executive excess and the raw wielding of power. >> senator cruz may be the most visible leader of the defund effort, but tom graves of georgia is the congressman who sponsored the bill in the house that would fund the government only if obamacare was zeroed out. he told us of his impassioned plea to get house republicans behind it. >> i shared my heart. i said i cannot look my constituents in the eye and tell them that i did all i could do for them if we don't do everything right now. and as i concluded my remarks, there was applause throughout the conference. >> reporter: it was the first bill that graves had ever written. it passed. setting up a shutdown showdown with the democratic-controlled senate. >> i think it showed us exactly how far the tea party was willing to go, which was not
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completely clear before that. i feel like it was a game changer. >> i rise today in opposition to obamacare. >> reporter: vowing to use every procedural measure to fight on in the senate, cruz takes the floor on september 24th at 2:41 p.m. >> i intend to speak in support of defunding obamacare until i am no longer able to stand. >> the whole debate we're having here today is not over strategy. >> everyone in america understands that obama care is destroying jobs. >> reporter: he speaks for 21 hours 19 minutes. >> the hour of noon has arrived. pursuant to the order of -- >> reporter: and then, as expected, the senate strips out the defund language. >> any bill that defunds obamacare is dead. dead. >> in that fight if everything went your way the president would have vetoed that thing to defund and you would have been back to -- >> well, not necessarily. listen, if you made the case to
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the american people that obamacare wasn't working, i think the political pressure on the president would have been considerable. now, would he have somehow needed some sort of face-saving retreat about, well, this is not repealing it, it's a delay till we get our act together? sure. but i think that could potentially have been achievable. if we had been united. >> reporter: in fact, a fox news poll taken at the time found a sizable minority of americans actually did want to defund the law and a majority liked the idea of delaying it. that's what the house tried next, passing a bill funding the government but delaying obamacare one year. >> we're not going to bow to tea party anarchists. >> reporter: to senate democrats delay was as much a non-starter as defund. >> obamacare is the law of the land and will remain the law of the land as long as i'm senate majority leader. >> reporter: the partial government shutdown arrived. >> the affordable care act is
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moving forward. that funding is already in place. you can't shut it down. starting tomorrow, tens of millions of americans will be able to visit to shop for affordable health care coverage. >> october 1st. the big moment. but crashes upon launch. >> like every new law, every new product rollout, there are going to be some glitches that we will fix. >> were you surprised that this rollout had gone so poorly? >> yes. >> really surprised? >> yeah. >> shocked? >> the team that was working on this let the american people down and let the president down. >> reporter: if the website was a debacle for democrats, the shutdown was one for republicans, says gop senator ron johnson of wisconsin. >> i wish we would have pursued delay. i think we'd be looking like political geniuses had we demanded delay. >> i mean, senator cruz would say, hey, listen, they got to delay very quickly once the house sent over its legislation. the next negotiating ploy, once
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senator reid said no, was to say okay, what about a one-year delay? >> well, i think the original demand was viewed by the american public as unreasonable, and as a result kind of armed harry reid and president obama to dig in their heels and to continue to point to republicans as being utterly unreasonable no matter what we proposed later on. >> reporter: but george will says democrats didn't seem particularly reasonable either. >> the president followed his sequester folly, the sky is falling, everything's coming to an end, with oh my goodness, government shutdown, we have to first build a fence around an open air world war ii memorial so we can say we've closed it. and he looked like a foolish and vindictive man. >> reporter: soon another deadline approached. the debt ceiling. again. that turned out to be one showdown too many for congressional republicans who are being blamed most by an angry public for shutting down the government. >> you had leadership in both
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parties come together and say let's jack up the debt ceiling, money, and let's not let's keep provide meaningful relief to obamacare. >> why didn't you try to block the final deal? >> i could have delayed it a day or two. that would have had no impact on the outcome. i'm interested in fighting fights where you can make a meaningful difference for the american people. >> the real problem with what mr. cruz did was he turned to decent, devoted conservative americans and said i've got a shortcut. there aren't any shortcuts. it was to me an act of supreme irresponsibility to arouse the republican base, good hard-working, devoted people, ardent to have limited government, but to arouse them for a crusade that he had to know he couldn't win. >> george will, who i have great respect for, is wrong. i think a political movement has to be a movement. it can't sit on its hands. it has to stand for things in
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order to attract political support. and i think that as obamacare rolls out what they're going to remember is that cruz was right and that the people who didn't want to fight this thing were wrong. >> reporter: americans were as split as mccarthy and will over the defund fight according to a fox news poll taken at the time. 46% saw it as a waste of time. exactly the same number saw it as an important effort. that included 59% of republicans and 74% of tea partiers. >> god bless texas! >> reporter: so it's not so surprising senator cruz returned to a hero's welcome back home. by november, with the government shutdown in the rearview mirror and the troubled obamacare rollout front and center, republicans erased an 8-point democratic lead in the generic
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congressional ballot. the gop was now up by three. meanwhile, conservative efforts to kill the law continued. with skirmishes in venues you wouldn't expect.
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welcome back. conservative lawmakers tried to de-fund obamacare. and a new generation of anti-obama care activists had been waiting to take the fights to the streets. >> if the markets are panicking, they have yet to show it. >> october 1st, 2013, arlington, virginia. >> they're having glitches the first day, how many young people will go back the second, third and fourth day hoping it will be better than today. >> the staff of generation opportunity gathered to watch president obama's health care rollout. >> they try to get people who quork to sign up but can't. kind of funny. >> i think it did disillusion a lot of young people used to technology working to see such a
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huge failure from government. >> as the days do on and this thing continues to have bugs we continue to enforce our message. >> six months of educating young americans about their health car care. >> meanwhile, an emphatic promise was come back to haunt the president. >> if you already have health care, you can keep your insurance. if you like your plan, keep your plan. if you like your doctor, keep your doctor, period end of story. >> according to a fox news poll, half of all voters believe president obama knowing loy lied when he told americans they could keep their health care plan. 59% said at the very least his administration knew many people would lose their policies. >> it's a whopper, for sure. >> kirsten powers is one of nearly 6 million americans who had to find new insurance plans because of the affordable care act. but powers an obama care
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supporter figured she'd get better coverage on the obama exchange or at least go down in cost. >> people kept saying it will go down in cost and get better health care for less money. >> instead, her premium doubled. >> did you get the e-mail from tyler? >> generation opportunity activists saw that happening on day one. >> he went to sign up. the cheapest plan had him at $250 a month. a $5,000 deductible. $6300 out-of-pocket. >> 22? >> 22 years old. >> every day seemed to bring more bad news. cancer patients losing their doctors. >> it does not allow me to keep my team, the team that's kept me alive. >> people no longer able to get care from neighborhood hospitals. massive security problems. >> do any of you today think
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that the site is secure? >> no. >> no. >> no. >> how bad politically do you think this is for your side? >> i think when we get the website working i think it will pass pretty quickly. >> congressman, you know, it's bigger than that. you have a president who said you can keep your health insurance period. that's not a website. >> right. >> you have people going on and seeing higher premiums than maybe they thought they would see. are you worried about more shoes to drop? >> i worry about the momentum around getting people enrolled. if we don't get younger healthier americans to participate and pay a penalty. >> you should be worried. young people aren't going to sign up. >> the latest tally of people who signed up on the exchanges, only 365,000. no indication how many are young and healthy opposed to those who are older or sick. >> there's a reason why the administration hasn't released
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any numbers how many young people have signed up right now because there are very few young people say buy obama care for me. >> how important is it to the success of the program? >> it's vitally important to success. of the 7 million people they're trying to get signed up, 2.7 million need to be young and healthy for the law to work. >> which brings us back to where we started. that tailgate party outside sun life stadium. >> believe it or not there are organizations working to convince young people not to get insuranc insurance. >> if feinberg needed any proof his effort were having an impact, the white house supplied it. >> think about that. that's a really bizarre way to spend your money. to try to convince people not to get health insurance. >> doesn't he have a little bit of a point? aren't you telling kids don't get health insurance now?
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>> the president's comments, i think, are extremely misleading and dis ingenuous and downright fault. there are still options for young people better than those lousy plans offered for young people under the obama care plan. >> those options he says include accident insurance, short term insurance and health care sharing ministries that would keep a healthy young person from going bankrupt in the case of an catastrophic event. >> the critics say they're lousy alternatives. >> the obama care plan is a lousy plan. >> i think this law will do what it's intended to. you don't reform something this size and assume you have it right the first time. >> cut and dry. >> implement it and get it going. i think it definitely can happen. >> he insists a growing number of young people who will be stuck with the tab don't even
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want to try. >> we're saying enough. enough of the fact less than half my generation are working full time. enough of the fact all this debt has to be paid bye-bye my generation. we are saying it is making our lives worse and not better. >> that's all for this fox news reporting. we hope you'll keep watching in 2014. good night.
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these rules are war on the
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little guy. >> i'm a constitutional lawyer and have no idea what's in these books. >> it protects consumers. >> they say we need more. >> there are times we should infringe on your freedom. >> perhaps it depends on the federal government to protect our children. >> now, they keep passing more laws and we're drowning in red tape. >> i can't eat the way i want, can't drink


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