find out why tonight. hello, everyone. i'm dana perino along with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, eric bolling, and greg gutfield. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." a big special election victory for a republican in florida could be a sign of what's to come for democrats nationwide in november. david jolly defeated alex sink last night, holding on to seat formerly held by late congressman bill young. it was largely seen as a test for obamacare. jolly campaign eed against it a he agrees. >> voters last night decided they want to keep a check on
president obama. this president has put on the american people a change in the role of government in our individual lives and people rejected that last night. >> the congressman elect also has advice for republicans on how to continue to win races in 2014. >> we cannot simply be a party of no. it is not good enough simply to say no to obamacare. one of the things we talked about on the campaign trail were specific solutions to health care coverage issues. we often don't hear about that, but i think substance matters. voters deserve answers, they deserve solutions. >> let me tell you how this is going to go on "the five" in the a block, the four of us are going to make our comments and bob is going to tell us why everybody is wrong. let's start with eric. your thoughts on last night. do you think we can -- anything predictive about the result last night going forward? >> all the democrats were saying it's a one off and all the republicans are saying it's a bell weather. i think it is going to be a thing -- a sign of things to
come because we hear of them saying you have to stay on obamacare. that race was all about obamacare. the democrat refused to push back on obamacare. she said they need to fix it, and the republicans say we need to repeal it. so if this isn't a good referendum of what every single republican should do in 2014 elections, you need to use that, take it as a file, read it and go ahead and do it. think about this. that man is 41 years old. he's recently divorced, parading around central florida with a 26-year-old girlfriend, he's wearing a pinstriped suit. he's not exactly the kind of republican you want to go, i love that guy. i want to get behind that guy. yet he won and he won with a libertarian taking 5% of the vote away from him. >> that description. that description, bob might actually like him, i would imagine. kimberly, let me ask you, after last night, do you think that the republicans were a little bit, maybe, getting too confident about what 2014 could look like, or do they have
reason to feel good about themselves? >> they could use a self-esteem boost. i hope this provided it. i think it is a significant victory, especially if the president's numbers continue to drop and he still has the problem with obamacare. and for the reasons that eric said, i think that's why it's significant, too. this is nobody who wasn't necessarily a poster boy candidate to go forward, and he still was able to deliver the votes and have a victory. that's why it matters. even more so, to the democrats, because they know they're up against it and it's going to be hard for them to hold on to all those seats. i'm sure they're going to lose quite a few more. >> in midterm elections, presidents and white houses always try to say the election is not about the president. but given obama's situation right now with sinking poll numbers, do you think obama had a lot to do with the democrats' loss last night? >> perhaps, but if you think the obamacare fallout surprised president obama, then you don't know him. he knew this would happen. he accepted this as part of the
deal in changing society. a demolition man does not sob when the building falls. he rejoices. so he accepted it. i googled headlines this morning and i googled jolly sink4z÷h s and it came up like 75,000 times. it shows you how unoriginal headline writers are. >> i had good ones this morning, but i resisted all my puns. >> when he said the party shouldn't be the party of no, of course they should be the party of no. they should be saying no to everything. they said no to obamacare. i hate saying yes. like i said before, we should run robots. >> i always like republicans, you're guaranteed headlines as a republican if you criticize the republican party. i'm tired of it. bob, let me ask you this, alex sink was the democrat, an accomplished woman. she ran for governor. she did not win, but she won the district in 2010.
she was by all accounts, i think, a great candidate for them. she was well funded, well organized. much more so than the republican, and yet they still loss, even with a libertarian candidate taking 5% of the votes. >> let me try to correct a lot of this. let me first concede, i do think obamacare obviously had some impact on the race. no question about that. when you spend $12 million on a race, and other millions of dollars more from outside groups, all directed at obamacare, it's bound to have an impact. here's the good news -- >> about that, that was $12 million total and that was the full amount, $12 million. only $2 million, i think, from within the candidates, and the other $9 million or $10 million -- >> i don't interrupt you when you talk about energy. you're in my wheelhouse. >> am i wrong? >> this district, first of all, nobody is going to spend that money when it comes to the general election this year. but this district has been in republican hands for 50 years. obama did win it by a few
percentage points. let's keep this in mind, the total turnout was 170,000 voters. in 2012, it was about 330,000. about half the number turned out. it probably did stir up the republican base. they can take some satisfaction. but the idea of trying to take this race and extrapolate it out to the rest of the country. if it was all about obamacare, you're in trouble with your strategy because it was a close race. >> alex sink was their democrat -- they love this candidate. they really thought -- am i wrong? >> everybody loves -- >> no, the democrats really thought this was one they were going to put on, take an r, make a d on it in a florida seat. they thought they were getting it. they love this candidate and she lost. and she lost fairly handily. >> in a marginally republican seat, in a special election with turnout way below what it will be in the fall. >> i think the fact that president obama won that district twice, and then she won
it, i think, now that they had some backsliding means that district might be in play. let's take a listen to what john boehner, speaker of the house, had to say, and then debbie wasserman schultz. >> a big win last night in florida. and i would attribute the win to the fact that our candidate was foiksed on the issues that were most important to the people in florida 13th. that's the economy and jobs. >> that's a republican messaging. congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz is head of the dnc. she said republican special interest groups poured in millions to hold on to a republican congressional district they have comfortably held for nearly 60 years. i bet they had two statements prepared and that was the one she didn't want to have to use. =he didn't want to have to use. to be honest, they put forward a strong, credible candidate. this was a race they should have won, and i think they didn't because of the president, because of the problems with the administration, and because of obamacare.
is it insurmountable? perhaps, but the democrats wanted to come forward today with strength and confidence and say, listen, dismiss the naysayers. our party is strong. we're unified. we're not vulnerable to the republicans. thought is not what happened. anyone who woke up and said it wasn't a big deal or didn't matter is not honest. >> i thought it happened the way it was going to happen. the republican was going to win. if you think about it, the race was held at the height of the negative publicity about obamacare. they spent all this money. you can't spend that kind of money in all of these congressional districts around the country. i agree, and sink was a good candidate. jolly seemed to be an okay candidate. 26-year-old girlfriend? probably should have been younger and should have smoked dope. >> before we get derailed, you said don't mess with me with energy and oil. i'm not messing with you with politics. you're handling another democrat congressman in 2014 in the midterm election. you see what goes on there. you're not going to change your
message? you're not going to push far away from obamacare? >> when you win a special election, lose a special election by a point and a half in a district that has been republican, i would say -- you know what i say? we're going to have to structure ourselves to be careful about obamacare, but it's not nearly the big issue that people talk about. >> more money to help her win. >> one thing a race like this can do for republicans, six months out from the midterm elections is momentum and fund-raising. and attracting good candidates. one of the things you have said is republican party has to figure out a way to get better candidates to want to run. do you think with some of the candidates they have now, they're listening to you? >> maybe. i don't know. but can i point out? >> that was a good question. >> it was, but if obamacare isn't harmful to elections, why did they delay the implementation of it until after the election? was it to play hard to get, bob, so people would like it t9
>> i said it did have a marginal impact. >> i want to agree with bob on something. the key to losing a war is exaggerating a battle win. we saw this before, up to the 2012 election. there was a lot of people really cocky over romney. that cockiness led to defeat. making a huge deal out of this is every bit as big a mistake as dismissing it. and the big victory isn't the right or left. it's our adversaries. they have taken advantage of a white house that has become obsessed with the progressive dream. thanks to obamacare, president obama has taken his eye off the ball, and that ball is our globe. >> can i push back a little bit? the thing with the elections, you're coming up for election in november. you have to run ads and you have to run on something. recommendation, i would stay away from libido. i would stay away from contraceptives and the national debt. young people don't want to hear about that right now. they want to hear about how the government is about to saddle you with something you don't
really need or can afford. >> you want to run an entire party election on one issue? >> right after. >> it's the principle of individual liberty and the expansion of government, and the expansion of government is based on punishing the individual. it's a very simple and stark choice. they need a messenger to make the message clear. >> and that's a good example of it. >> you would? i'm glad you admitted it. >> this is an encroachment over an industry and it's hurting people. the problem is what we see as a massive failure, the media sees as a victory. that's why the candidate has to speak over the media in order to win. >> what you said is something republicans -- >> you're -- >> i'm talking about entitlements. >> you're being honest, and republicans will not talk about this, but they have the same feeling about medicare and social security. >> they don't have to. obamacare is good enough. >> this is a winnable issue for republicans. hold on, because they have actually -- there has been time enough for this to sort of resonate with everybody, for people to understand, for us to
see a little bit of the impact of it. it's an issue they can keep in their head when they go to the voting box. do i want more of these guys, government bloat, regulations, taxes, all of this, and now trying to take over something that should be in the private care system. >> i think because obama won the last two times in that district and that alex sink, the democrat, won in 2010 when she ran, i think the rnc finally, through new efforts, is catching up to the democrats on the most important issue, which is turnout. get out to vote, find the voters and get them to the poll. next, frustrated relatives of passengers onboard the missing malaysian jet want answers and they felt their fury at a latest briefing. >> and later, surprising developments on the teenager suing her parents for money for college. since the boeing 777 wi
people onboard vanished in asia. families rightfully want answers and they're growing more and more frustrated by the minute because they're not getting them. >> well, that's what happened at one of the latest briefings. relatives threw water bottles. officials don't seem to go where to look for the plane, but they're deflecting the criticism. >> they don't seem to know what you have seen on the radar, and it's taken you until now, five days later. >> i think that's not true. >> i don't think so. i think it's far from it. it's only confusion if you want it to be seen as confusion.
>> so many questions, and very little answers. in a lot of speculation. we know this just in from the bbc, that the chinese satellite was able to capture for debris that could potentially be wreckage from the plane. we're getting on top of that, but right now, the families are very frustrated, emotional, upset. >> you said it properly, potentially could be. there's a helicopter pilot a few days ago who said he saw a plane door floating in the water. turned out it wasn't. then the malaysian military said they had a flight path. there was a hard left turn and they had proof of it. today, they said we're not so sure about the left turn, it might have been a right turn. we're not even sure about the turn. it's frustrating for us. even more frustrating, heart breaking for the family members waiting to find out what happened. this is going to be found somewhere, but the misinformation, this definitely never happened in america. >> well, you would think,
though, in terms of an international community coming together, trying to pool resources to find answers or rule out some possible scenarios, dana, of what might have happened, we have been getting little bits of information here and there, but nothing pointing to one clear or plausible theory or conclusion. >> right, and i think the malaysians have obviously exposed some weaknesses in their own reporting systems or however they organize their air traffic control and their military communication. and that is frustrating. but i also think that you have seen an amazing level of cooperation and part of that is because of the united states' leadership in sending some of our military there to help. it is in our interest to find out what happened, if it was an accident, good to know. if it's terrorism, better to know so we can try to fill in these gaps that the malaysians have basically showed up still xikt in our structure. >> and breaches of security as well. whether there were certain things that were checked as carefully as they should have been.
>> let me say, it is impossible to try to guess where this is. one thing beginning to wear on me is terrorism, which i thought was probably a prime suspect, it's highly unusual for terrorists to do an act like this and not take credit for it. the whole idea of terrorism is to promote terror. the fact that nobody has come forward after five days makes me a little suspicious whether it was an organized terror attack. >> would we hear yet, though? they could possibly be taking credit for it and no one is telling us they are. >> usually, if you look at these things, they come out right away and somebody takes credit for it. that's the only thing i'm hanging that on. >> they look to verify that to see if there's credibility, because there's also in the interest of promoting terrorism, they like us to feel vulnerable and less safe and secure in our airlines and transportation systems. before they release something like that, they have to check if there's a nexus or connection. >> all it takes is for a
terrorist group to say we did it. >> it will scare people, but they have an obligation not to release information like that on just heresy. i understand we haven't heard it yet. that could point to terrorism, but too soon to tell. >> the less we know, the more we blow. grappling with an absurdity here in this age of surveillance. a large object disappearing like somehow david copperfield did it. anybody could do, which is nice, is look at the audience and say, we don't know. >> is that actually the most unsettling aspect now that it's five days out, that there really isn't any direction they're pointing in? right away, people think, maybe the plane malfunctions, oh, gosh, i hope it's not terrorism. we still don't know. what about remnants or evidence. even forensic evidence. >> what we can talk about is insuring it doesn't happen again, and how would you do that? forget the black boxes. you need to find out what
happened onboard, but there are ways to equip the planes with constant satellite access, but it's very expensive. the question is do you have an international faa that requires all flights to have the satellite link-up. very expensive, if you do that, people like us who likel+v÷ sma governments, less intrusive governments. maybe you say, maybe you leave it up to the individual airlines. but in this case, i don't know, maybe you do require something. >> i think there's -- this is an opportunity for improved cooperation, and there's lots of existing ways to do that through either the u.n., and i'm not suggesting one world government, but there is civilian aircraft and corporate aircraft communication that could be >ñ improved. >> one thing greg said that's exactly right, we don't know. if we don't know, we couldn't have the segment, right? but there's one other thing, you said it wouldn't happen in america. twa flight 100 off long island. they still don't have the answers to all that.
>> they knew immediately, the ocean was on fire, it burned for five hours. >> for months, it was questions whether it was a missile. >> there's still questions about that, but they found the plane. >> okay. this plane is going to be found. you can't take something this big and make it disappear. they'll find it. >>alize rr a couple things they do have to go on. good threads, they have to check the iranians to see whether or not they had direct ties to terrorism. they have to fully explore that to see if they can rule it out. that's something that at least was of a suspicious nature. and the last was from a communications perspective. 9/11, we were used to hearing communication from the cockpit or from passengers themselves. they said at this point, the authorities have no idea the direction of the missing plane and the last words of the pilot said we have to hand you over to ho chi minh city, and he said all right. >> next, a teenager suing her parents to pay for her education, when she wasn't following their rules.
welcome back, everybody. the fastest seven, three captivating stories, the exciting, and the inexprickable. remember the new jersey teen suing her parents for college and expensive. she has come home. reunited with mom and dad. here's the family attorney. >> on behalf of the canning family, rachel is back home. everyone should be happy today. this is a happy situation. this is a case that should have never been. there are some cases that don't deserve to see the inside of a courtroom. this was one of them. i'll repeat myself. at the end of the day, nothing good could come from this case. parent need to act like parents,
kids need to be kids, and they need to decide things as they happen. it's fluid. >> anything to do with her losing completely in the courtroom. >> now she's like, now what? she went back home. hopefully she's going to show respect for her parents. hopefully they can learn to talk better as a family, resolve their issues so it doesn't get to a point like this again, and maybe go to counseling so they can learn better to resolve conflith, and she's obviously had resentment issues towards them and maybe they can talk about the ways to parent together. i hope there's something very good that comes out of this, and parents are breathing a collective sigh of relief, we're not going to get sued by our kipdz and they're not going to live. >> she probably went to live with her boyfriend who was probably a dog and she couldn't stand the guy. why they let her back in, i would have changed the locks and built a tent and let her sleep out back. >> come on, softy. >> can't believe it. >> i don't believe it. you would take her back. >> you would open that door. >> if my daughter ran off and
sued me. particularly my daughter's boyfriend. >> all right, don't get in trouble. dana, you point something out, very important. >> i think this is a great outcome. what i really like is that the family lawyer also said that as a family, they have decided they will no longer be speaking to the media about their personal family issues, which i think is a great decision. >> the question is, will they be speaking to each other? >> family movie night, maybe. >> this is a lesson to everyone that having kids is russian roulette. your only potential positive is they might grow up normal and leave you alone, but there's an overwhelming chance and possibility they will offer you a lifetime of embarrassment and humiliation. that's why you don't have kids, because they'll ruin your life. >> see how kid friendly they are. >> it used to be when you left, you left. >> whose fault is that? >> huh? >> whose fault is that? >> isn't it part of being a
parent, bob? >> kids lie. >> terrible. >> here's the deal, she got mad. she wanted to live with the guy that the dad didn't like. she moved on. it's okay. >> she took them to court. >> here's the thing, she's 18. >> that's not okay. >> you know who we haven't talked about enough inthe lawyer who helped her bring the lawsuit. that's the person that should be targeted. >> that's why i was never that kind of lawyer. i was on the right side of the law. a prosecutor. okay, i would never bring a case of someone suing their parents. unless it's a case of abuse or neglect. >> we're going to take the next topic. we might be getting breaking news in a minute. rick perry, this happened last night on "jimmy kimmel." >> snoop dogg was here last night and he was in the same room. >> i could smell it. >> you could smell it? i was worried about it. he actually covered the smoke detector in the dressing room to avoid prosecution.
but i have to say, he will be pleased to know in january, you said you might possibly favor decriminalizing marijuana in your state. is that true? you're thinking about that? >> what we did, for over a decade, we lowered the penalties. we're trying to be smart about it. you don't want to ruin a kid's life for having a joint. >> texas getting a little bit libertarian, but why stop there? decriminalize the stuff. and you're on board? >> yeah, but i don't really care about the issue. the ability to be persuasively correct is more important than being correct, that's my point. >> okay, but did you hear what he said? we pushed back -- now, guys, tell me now. >> that's why i didn't say anything. >> kimberly, we haven't decreminalized it, we're just making the sentences lighter. >> that's a bit of a compromise,
right? as a prosecutor, i would say there's crimes like simple possession, or someone who is not a dealer who should be treated differently. perhaps there is room for improvement in sentencing. >> more important story besides his dope smoking, he dropped hints he was going to run again in 2016. i hope he does. i hopredict he runs and crashes and burns, and we have a lot of his right-wing residents right here with us. >> thank you very much. >> a very nice man. >> you talked to rick perry about decriminalization. >> if you want to get a cheer, as a republican, if you want a cheer from a hipster audience, you say you're for legalizing marijuana. that will guarantee you headlines. i'm for states experimenting, and texas already loses all sorts of people in colorado for skiing. they don't want to lose them to marijuana sales, too.
>> did you say you were for experimenting with drugs? >> i'm for states experimenting with legalization. i'm too scared to experiment with drugs. >> we're going to go. we have breaking news. we're going to send it to shepard smith. >> i hate to call it breaking because we have known about it for about an hour. we're just -- we're so hesitant after all we have heard over the past five days. the malaysian air jet, it sounds like the chinese believe they have found it. it's not as if they have it. they have pictures which the chinese are telling us are from a chinese satellite. pictures taken on sunday. these are the pieces. this is in the south china sea. three of them. that one, this little piece right here, and then one more right here. now, these don't look like much here. but they're big. one of them is 70-some feet by 70-some feet. that will have to mean some section of the wing and fuselage. we don't know exactly what it is. we know they're trying to send people out there to search for
this area. i'm going to she you the area we're talking ability. let me bring this here. this is the spot, remember the crazy stories they have been telling us. this was the original flight plan, the yellow one. right up there, about where they first said, remember when they said a couple days ago, it took a left turn and came back over the peninsula there? now they say that didn't happen. but it's right about here, right there, that they believe that these three objects have been found. is it the plane? we do not know. the chinese seem to think it is. they say the images are from sunday, but it's chinese state media. it's the chinese government. we have no way to know. but planes are on the way, boats are on the way, and that's the information we have for now. i'm shepard smith. >> thank you very much. let's bring it quick around the table. that would make a lot of sense, where they found that. >> it would make a lot of sense. they can say what they want about the chinese, and i'm sure bob will have something to say, but the significance is there will be some tell.
forensic evident if they're able to go to the site, preserve it, and do examinations to tell if there was a blast, whether it was a manmade detonation, someone deadinated something onboard, or it was an equipment malfunction. we lost track of them so fast, there wasn't anything they could find. it sounds like there is some kind of spontaneous event, unpredicted, not foreseen, that happened. whether manmade or terrorist. >> any tells? >> global warming, those are all from antarctica and icebergs and they're floating down there because of global warming. >> 98% of scientists agree with you. >> that's great. >> here's what i hope, whether it's an accident or terrorism, i hope that they never knew, and that god snatched them up before they had any panic or fear. >> very nice. >> i'm still reeling from what bob just said. you can pass on me. >> we're going to leave it there. >> by the way, seriously, who else has a 70-foot by 70-foot piece of something in the ocean.
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seekers. now the pleasure seeks us. have you ever looked at someone staring at their screen. it's a rat waiting for a pellet of nutrition. forget the effort needed to fight boredom. now the muscles are flabby from misuse. it's us, and so what do you do? do you remind millennials to access to all things renders them empty. access to gratification is the very definition of gratification? actually, we need to remind ourselves. it's not the millennials who first put the self before all ils. the more famous selfies were not them. try their parents. believing since the 1970s that all good things come to those who state. >> we keep blaming the millennials. you weren't even listening. >> i was completely listening. >> we're all guilty, but we're blaming the millennials for our sins.
we're doing this and other things, and we say, oh, it's them, it's them. it's us. >> i think that's exactly right. listen, the millennials are the largest generation ever. they're interesting to me, the one thing that is different is 50% of them are independents. most generations prior to that declared themselves pretty much what their parents were and their political affiliation. fewer of them are going to church. that's not new. that's been going on for a long time. i don't think there's anything new except the technology. we sit around the table, you look at those things all the time. >> you look at your phone for other things. >> that's not allowed in our stuff. the fact is that they have available to them the kind of technology that we never had. we're now catching up to it, and people like eric are using it every single minute of the day. >> yeah. >> i don't think millennials are that much different. i really don't. >> can i throw something in there? you're right. millennials are going to church at the lowest rate, alarmingly lowest rate in history. they're also working at the lowest rate.
and so what's happening, they have so much more time. they're not working, not marrying, at a low rate as well. so much more time to spend on their devices. the question is are they using it wisely? what's happening is it's becoming a lot easier to text someone than to say hello. it's a lot easier to send something than to actually meet someone for lunch. i think it's a scary, scary world that people are going to find themselves in with a lot of selfies. don't forget, this stuff never goes away. there's an electronic imprint of this stuff for an eternity. i can't imagine what a hiring office is going to look like 20 years from now. how do you explain this? >> your tweets would keep people busy. >> it's a requirement for a job, the naked selfie. dana, chicken or egg. is the technology creating a divorce from the idea of community, or is the leaving of the community creating the technology? >> probably evolution. today, i had somebody who contacted me to urgently call
them. i haven't talked to them in years. i thought, i'm not urgently calling you. i'll send an e-mail. it was easier to text than to do that. cavuto the other day, they were talking about this fast food study where they watched the parents with kids and how moms and dads were on their phones the whole time and the kids were sitting there silent. i saw that at the luke bryant, and i felt so bad for this girl because her mom never paid attention to her. >> kg, isn't this about removing a barrier to entry for things we the to work for. we had to talk to people, buy things. now it comes to us. >> i guess, but i feel like the use of technology makes you more efishabout. i'm able to do twice as much as i used to on any given day, with my calendars and lists of things to do, i feel like i'm able to accomplish things a lot and get back to people quickly. whether perhaps, i couldn't get back to them until after the show, i could send them a quick text, get back.
i appreciate the technology, but i try to use it in the right way. you don't see me abusing twitter or these things or crazy stuff, crazy pictures. >> as much as we all hope you would. >> despite the demands. >> you see a number of people, particularly millennials, sit down and write a letter? that whole art, we're gathered arth with people together, when they can gather in chat rooms. >> have you ever tried to write a check and you forgot to write letters. the art of cursive writing has disappeared. >> and spelling. spell check is everything. grammar check, you really don't have to be too smart to write a letter. >> you can go to google, even i can do that. it's the g. >> you should put your social security number in there, and they get all the stuff. your birthday. >> i don't want to do that. >> coming up, yesterday he was on death row for more than a century for a murder he didn't commit. now glen ford is a free man and talking about his wrongful
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after spending 26 years on death row and 30 years total behind bars in louisiana. new evidence exonerated him of the 1983 murder, showing he wasn't even present at the time of the crime. reporters caught up with ford after he was released. >> you have waited a lifetime for this moment. how does it feel to be a free man? >> it feels -- my mind is going all different directions, but it feels good. >> do you harbor any resentment? >> yeah, because i was locked up almost 30 years. i can't go back and do anything that i should have been doing when i was like 35, 38, 40, stuff like that. my son, when i left, was a baby. now they're grown men with babies. >> word at the prison about where he was held for more than two decades seemed apologetic. >> certainly, i feel bad for him, and certainly i'm sorry it happened, but also when you look at the case, everybody had good intentions, and it was a mistake. and so they rectified the
mistake, and that's what's so important. and i feel really bad for him. you know, he stayed here a long time. >> they rectified the mistake 30 years later. this guy was tried before an all-white jersey with incompetent counsel, with is typical for blacks particularly in the south. one of the reasons most people on death row are black or hispanic is because they have bad representation, and juries are predominantly white. i know you love? >> i'm pro death penalty, and okay, so if that's the case, we need to beef up, or continue to make the jury system better, and representation better for criminals, bob, but i don't think you eliminate the death penalty because there was a mistake made 26 years ago. >> more than one. we put people to death who are not guilty. >> you don't think that -- >> not in the slightest. >> that's where we disagree. >> i'm going to take one angle which is funding for the courts. courts have been under pressure
at the city, state, and federal level. and we actually should prioritize better and we could deal with some of our other physical issues, we could fund the courts so somebody like this gentleman could have adequate representation and this wouldn't happen. >> greg? >> if you're against the death penalty because an innocent person might die, you better be pro life because there's a lot of innocent death going on every day. nothing is perfect, including justice. mistakes are made, in war, in defense, in daily life. innocents die and it's a shame, but for me, the death penalty is too lenient. >> okay. >> as a prosecutor who has handled death penalty cases, and interesting, bob, all the death penalty cases i had were of white males looking at the death penalty. i think to make a blanket statement to say all juries are racist, they're all white juries -- >> i didn't say they were racist. >> kind of did. >> i don't think it's accurate, as a minority, as a puerto rican
woman, i think that's inaccurate. i have worked in the justice system a long time. some of these people, believe me, the death penalty is too kind for people who are bad. >> one segment in the show, and all i can say -- >> four to one. >> what do you mean, four to one? >> is anybody against the death penalty here? >> we have to go. >> get out of here? okay, state
it's time now for "one more thing." lightning round version. >> very quickly, one of our producers prot50 texas a&m aggies to our audience. look at them. awesome, you guys. they have been so, so tuned in to the show. >> so, so conservative. >> thanks for joining us. >> greg? >> banned phrase. all right, there you go. all right. this guy just said it's a bad thing, the worst word in the
world in politics is yes. when you say yes to things, they spend your money. be a party of no. no more weakness, no more government plan, no more hip, edgy, disaffected leadership. say no to everything. >> an optimistic view of the world. >> all right, kimberly. >> mine is like snakes on a plane, but for snakes in a cab. >> you got it. >> oh, my gosh. >> oh, no! >> [ bleep ]! >> i mean, as if new york cabs aren't bad enough. >> i would hit him. >> or cockroaches. >> i don't like that. that's not funny. >> he didn't really get in trouble. he's a comedian. >> hilarious. >> much maligned by conservatives, the interview between zach galifianakis and president obama about obamacare. led directly to 54,000 unique hits on the health care website. and overall, just yesterday,
575,000 people went to the website. it's booming. it's doing great. and too bad for the conservatives to miss that one. >> 500,000 went to amazon in an hour and didn't buy anything. >> big deal. >> greg, who is counting? >> all right, here's mine. if you think congress can't do anything, senators coburn and udall saved you $30,000. they both got $18 million of your money to throw parties for the conventions. not happening. don't forget to set your dvrs so you never miss an episode of "the five." "special report" is next. see you tomorrow. >> it is thursday march 13th. death and destruction, a fox news alert as more bodies are pulled from the rubble of a building explosion in harlem.
firefighters working around the clock to dig through the debris. >> an suv stolen with 4-year-old inside. the high speed chase and the shocking move that thmaking aft it crashes. >> a school superintendent being paid over half a million dollars. >> what outraged parents are now demanding. "fox & friends first" starts right now. >> good morning to you. it is thursday, your tail end to the weekend. good news for us. thank you for watching "fox & friends". >> i am ainsley earhardt. >> i am heather childers. six people now confirmed dead in
a gas explosion in harlem, new york. crews spending the night frantically digging through rubble in hopes of finding survivors. right now two people are unaccounted for. more than 60 others injured including at least three children. the blast flattened two buildings terrifying the entire neighborhood. >> knocked me from my bed on the floor. it was really loud. >> i thought i was going to die in my apartment and my kids aren't going to have a mom. >> this is a look at the incredible before and after picture showing the magnitude of the blast. people in the neighborhood reported smelling gas near the building the night before the explosion. we will have a live report from the scene in our next half hour. >> also another fox news alert to tell you about. tragedy hitting the south by southwest music festival in austin, texas.