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top national security advisers is saying it. james jones says vladimir putin would stop pulling the punches if we just passed the keystone pipeline. is the guy who runs the pipeline running out of patience. >> i'm dana perino along with andrea tantaros, bob beckel, eric bolling, and bob beckel. it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five." a major announcement this morning on the fate of flight 370. malaysia's prime minister reported the plane that disappeared on march 8th did crash into the indian ocean. the conclusion after a new analysis of satellite data. >> it is therefore with deep sadness and regret that i must inform you that according to this new data, flight 370 ended
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in a sudden indian ocean. malaysia airlines have already spoken to the families of the passengers. for them, the past few weeks have been heartbreaking. i know this news must be harder still. >> grief overtook some family members after they were told by airline officials there was no hope their loved ones would be found alive. later today, around 3:00, there was a statement released by the families, and i'm going to read a bit of that to you now. it says the shameless behavior not only fooled and hurt the families of the 154 passengers, but also misguided and delayed rescue actions, wasting time and resources. there's another slide there,
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thanks. a large quantity of human resources and materials and lost valuables. anyway, basically what it says is that there was unforgivable crimes and responsibility of the malaysian government and the airline, malaysian airline and also the military. andrea, in some ways, i think you might a great pint before the show started, even though the malaysian government said this is definitive now, that the plane crashed into the indian ocean, it seems like the families are back to square one with no explanation of how it happened. >> that's how i feel, like we're back at square one. until you show me that plane, i'm not certain i believe them. maybe this is the most compelling argument yet, but we're 17 days in, and they have taken us on a wild-goose chase. i cannot imagine what it's like for the family members of the fallen or that may be dead. this may be a really naive question, and i have asked this to my brother, who is a commercial airline pilot.
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i don't understand this. seattle seahawks fans set off seismographs. how could an airplane that heavy, that large, traveling at 40,000 feet or even 30,000, 20,000, traveling that fast, going into the ocean, not be detected. maybe it's a very naive question, but i still can't come to grips with the answer. and maybe someone has to answer to that, but i would love to know what it is, because i'm still not convinced this malaysian, once off the front pages, still iss exactly what is happening. >> i was curious, eric, whether you saw the reports on the new analysis, which is very logical and mathematical in plotting the course, and they said another airline of the same size flew the same distance and that that's the only logical conclusion. again, logic and math. does that explain it? >> again, here is exactly what we're doing. unfortunately, the malaysian government and air did the same thing, speculating further at
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the expense of the families. i was waiting for him to give us definitive proof. we have found a black box, found a brief from the airliner, none of that came out. he said based on some satellite stuff, we conclude it's the end, so let's move on. those families -- if i was one of the family members, i would have lost it at this point. you have done nothing but try to wash your hands of this thing, saying it's over for you. maybe more information is going to come out, but why not wait until tomorrow. why not wait until you can show the families you do have proof. he's speculating. as far as we're concerned, he's speculating. >> when he says we will have more details for you tomorrow, it was curious why they would have done that. greg, you point out there's other thing s they haven't answered yet. >> let me address that. that was not an announce 789 in my opinion. that was a last call. he was basically saying please go home.
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please go home, like your parents telling your kids' friends to go home, it's dinner time and it's over, without any explanation. i thought it was insulting he didn't take any questions. we can't trust them. there was another instance, so strange you brought up, the surveillance photos of the two iranian fellows. if you look at this, this has been going around the internet. i'm trying to figure out what is going on. they have the same legs, if you look at it, they have the same legs. you're wondering, how do these guys have the same legs? this was on the blaze and the daily mail picked it up, and the government responded it was a clerical error on the copy machine, some incompetent thing, somehow when they made copies, they had the same legs. rather than saying it was photo shopp shopped, it was just a mistake. so how many mistakes are they allowed? it gets back to the point i made last week. we would not do that. american exceptionalism extends to this area.
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the problem with the world is that the people in these countries, they want our help, but their leaders don't. that's the case in almost all of these countries. we could do so much good in so many places, but the leaders say no and they screw up and make people's lives miserable. >> bob, last week, you pointed out this is the biggest aviation mystery, and do you think this is just going to have to remain a mystery? >> well, the first thing that strikes me, this is the first thing the malaysians have said definitively since the beginning. they refused to say it turned at first. now, all of a sudden, definitively, we know it went in the ocean. there's a huge credibility gap here. the other thing, it may never be explained, but why did the plane fly for eight hours? if this guy was killing himself, the pilot or the copilot, together they decided to kill themselves, why not do it sooner than that? it's so bizarre. if they think it's going to go away, i think they're kidding themselves. >> andrea, in talking to your
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brother, some of the things don't add up, that the coordinates were changed before the turn is made, before the good night is given, and no distress signal sent for the next eight hours. >> the fact there was no distress signal to most pilots doesn't add up, and the changing deliberately of the points. why, if there was a fire, would you deliberately change the points? if you're a fire, you're going to call for help. the only thing i could think of is the explanation that the elt, which would have gone off, the emergency transmitter, would have gone off if it hit land. maybe if it went into the ocean, pilots would say, maybe that's why it didn't go off, but there's all these other things that i assume to be true. how do we know it's true? we have questions the source said. hodo we know they deliberately changed the points. i'm at the point where i'm questioning everything. not to jump to the next block, but why don't we give malaysians
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control of the internet and see what happens? i can't get online for 17 days. i'm sorry, it went into the ocean. that's it. >> that was my point for the next block, too. >> i'm sorry. >> we'll let you repeat it, eric, any business consequences out of this? >> this is really, really strange. apparently, malaysian air, and i can't confirm this, but apparently malaysian air sent out a text right before they notified the families that what was coming out from the prime minister. i can't believe the tone deafness of that, let alone whether or not there's anything that we actually do know, yes, malaysian air is getting absolutely crushed in the markets, but here's -- pointing out what andrea was saying, with the prime minister saying this, all the speculation with the airplane, he really makes us look bad for speculating. if they know what happened and they're holding it back, this last -- they changed the rules of the game in the bottom of the ninth right now. for us to speculate on what happened and whether or not
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there's a black box, we should wait and see what he has to say. if there's nothing, i can't imagine the push back. how much money we spent looking for this thing. >> bob, let me ask you from a -- i guess from the family's standpoint, in their starmemps, they say they plan the hold the government, malaysian airlines and the military accountable for what they call an execution of all these passengers if they are indeed dead. i can understand how you could hold an airline responsible, i guess, financially, but how do you hold a government or their military responsible? or accountable, i should say? how do you make them accountable? >> so difficult not being a family member, but the fact is if the plane did what it did, there's nothing the military could have done about it. what i find amazing is the speculation became fact. we shouldn't go over this too quickly. that photoshop issue, the only two people we know who had fake passports on the plane, they
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screwed up the picture. what does it tell you? and it was bought by an iranian. that got lost in the shuffle. it seems speculation became fact quickly in virtually everything and we had to go back and change the facts. i think the malaysians, again, what greg said, they want everybody to go home and they're kidding themicisms. although, i will say this, at what point do people like the united states say enough is enough, we're not going to look at it anymore? >> we talked about the computers arriving at quantico, and we don't have information anymore, but why did the pilot have the makeshift simulator with the eight runways. i don't sit at home and practice intros and outros in the mirror. it seems a little geeky, a little odd he would put together something and sit in the house and practice the runways. >> i have a simulation table of "the five." i have four mannequins right here, and one, bob, i just yell
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at. this hopefully is maybe the best you can hope for is the end of something, but not the beginning of something else, because we still don't know if this was supposed to be part of something else. we will never know if we deal with the malaysians, we will never know. >> well said. >> until it's too late. next, a war of words between the white house and matt drudge. plus, president obama plans to hand over america's control of the internet, and a lot of people are not happy about it, including bill clinton. you'll hear from him coming up. every second, we chip away. at advancing safety with technology,
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created a firestorm over the weekend, tweeting just paid the obamacare penalty for not getting covered. i'm calling it a liberty tax. critics were quick to pounce, noting the penalty doesn't apply until next year, so was he being
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cautious, or does it highlight the confusion of ordinary taxpayers under obamacare. i assume drudge is a small business owner and he's just trying to pay his quarterly taxes in anticipation of next year. isn't this a pretty simple thing? >> very simple. if you have ever owned your own business, you know you better pay your quarterlies because if you don't at the end of the year, they nail you for not paying your quarterlies. i haven't spoken to him, but what i assume he did is he anticipated what his end of year next year penalty for this year will be and he did it on a quarterly basis. he doesn't have to, but wisely, he did it on a quarterly basis. and then the white house shot back and made some cheap shot about, oh, he used to be relevant. are you kidding me? he used to be relevant. in one number, go on the website, 800 -- almost 810 million unique views on the drudge report. take it to, about
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4.5 million unique views. let's clarify this. white house takes a shot at matt drudge, but he's putting up 175 times more unique views than >> i want to ask about the white house response because this was from jesse lee. he didn't just take a cheap shot. he called matt drudge a liar. i happened to google mr. lee and look at his background. he has a degree in philosophy and used to be a staffer for nancy pelosi. not exactly familiar with how small businesses work. isn't that an indictment on how ignorant the policy staffers are. >> about how the bill would have practical effects against people. not i'm defending the guy, but when i worked in the white house for almost eight years, i didn't file my own taxes, i was a government employee, so i paid my taxes like most americans who work for an employer do. it wasn't until i left and
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started my own business in april 2009, a whole new world of tax preparation came into my existence, you have to -- as a small business owner, you have to err on the side of an overabundance of caution to make sure you're in compliance with the law. now, there might be tax preparers who said he didn't need to do that, but if you're being cautious, and you're a conservative and you don't want the irs on your tail, you better do the right thing and pay the penalty in advance when you do your quarterly taxes. >> i was thinking how funny it was that you had a small business. >> very short lived. >> hey, greg, okay, so dana tells a story about how she's probably used to paying a w-2 and maybe this guy is used to paying it, too, but what about the media? how ignorant is the media when it comes to doing your research on how small businesses work. a senate committee aide told news on friday that thousands of small businesses will be forced
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to pay obamacare taxes quarterly in 2014, a simple thing they could have figured aout, yet the media got the story wrong and basically tried to paint drudge as a liar. >> also, it's kind of strange that the government, the media in a way is egging on the government against the small businessman. i thought you were supposed to support the little guy. i want to get back to eric. this is a lesson in triumph over private over public. he started the website with nothing. the government started obamacare with millions of dollars. with nothing, he created the best. with government, they created the worst. the only thing less kaumcompete than obama is president obama. >> bob, there isn't even a rule for levying the tax dwret, so how can the white house jump on drudge for doing -- >> very simple, if ever there was a scam job and drudge dec e decided to put it out there
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because he doesn't like obamacare, this is it. i'm a small business owner, don't interrupt me because i get the last question every time. this guy set it up so he got another story, and did he lie? i would say this, he lost the truth somewhere along the way. >> wait, but what do you mean, bob? he has to pay this. he's going to have to pay this. >> you think this guy was going to do this without the publicity. >> he's doing his quarterlies, which you have to do. >> just because he's a nice guy, doing the right thing? come on. he's a right winger. what do you want. >> let me finish. it's not that he paid it, it's that the white house took a shot at matt drudge. >> good, they should have. i would take another one. let me jump onboard. he's not telling the truth. >> then the white house ends up being wrong. why not let him have his point on health care. they turn it around so they shine the sunlight back in their own eyes. >> i'm not going to argue about the communication strategy of the white house, i have never
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understood it well, but if he made the point because it was the right thing to do -- >> he did it because the administration mandates that he has to pay quarterly obamacare taxes in 2014. they don't even know their own policy. >> i guess i'm behind. >> so what if bob is right. it's still correct. he's doing the right thing. and it's smart of him to have figured that out as a publicity tool, right? >> the irs is going to end up with a windfall because people are going to be cautious, and they won't have to ask congress for more money. >> while you're still talking, i can ask you about this? handing over the internet, bill clinton had thoughts on it. we discussed it last week on "the five." bill clinton seems to with the . take a listen. >> the united states has been by far the country most committed to keeping the internet free and open and uninterrupted, and a lot of these people who say they want multi-stakeholder control
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over domain names and internet access, what they really do is want the ability to shut down inconvenient exchanges in their own countries. we have an obligation, maybe even a heavier one because of the problems of the past, not to let that happen. >> okay, for all his faults, greg, bill clinton does have excellent political instincts, except maybe when he first came into office. he does seem to know this argument of ceding control of the internet is not a sensible one or in america's interest. >> this is the first time clinton will reject a body, but america created the world -- free expression as a right. we created that world. and we're handing it over to people who kind of see free expression as a burden, it's nart part of their life. putin laughs at that sort of thing. it's our baby and we're giving it away.
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why can't we give them something we don't want -- >> obamacare. >> obamacare, california -- well, southern california. >> can i say something? >> it reminds me of the handing over of the panama canal, where there was controversy with that. why would we do something like that? it seems like a logical question. how does it help america's best interests. >> we have the legislative expert of the panama canal. a couple things, i wouldn't be surprised if the obama administration came out and said clinton was fighting the war of the last century, which is what they have been trying to accuse putin of, bought clinton is thinking old school, but he's right, and i have a feeling that hillary clinton, this is a place where she could distance herself from president obama. there is a way to get this to stop, and congress can write in to the congress and say don't spend any funds to implement that plan. >> hillary clinton must be
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looking at polls with her husband. she made a comment the country is headed in the wrong direction. handing over the internet doesn't make a lot of since. >> hillary clinton has spent the better year of a year and a half trying to distance herself from barack obama because she's going to have to run on different things. she's going to have to figure out a way -- do you remember? this has been going on a long time. the clintons and obamas haven't loved each other for a long time, and it keeps sparking up. i gsz as we get closer to another year or so before she announces whether she's going to run or not, i'm guessing it's going to heighten. >> you think? >> why would we reward countries like russia, give them control when they don't have the same beliefs or have the ability to tax us or levee fees on us that we don't currently have? >> i did a remarkable thing, changed my opinion on something. i didn't realize, and i still am not quite sure how it is we stopped people from turning off the internet in various
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countries even if we control it. but if that's the case, we certainly shouldn't give it away. i don't care about the names. i care about the free use of the internet. does anybody understand how you can turn it off? >> this is about the domain issue. it does make a difference, you want to have the united states in my opinion be the final judge as to who is allowed. it's not that anybody is complaining that they haven't been approved. >> can we turn off the internet? >> it's a different issue. >> international control has never been superior to united states control. the only exception, the international house of pancakes, and we run that. >> i still like my panama canal, bob. it hurts, doesn't it? >> we paid for it, we thought we would keep it. coming up, a special treat for footloose fans. i'm one of them. the movie turned 30, and to celebrate, kevin bacon re-created some of the iconic
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>> now, we have a couple of big footloose fans. go ahead, you have seen it how many times? >> at least 17 times. and i loved it so much that i even went to see kenny loggins perform "footloose" in concert as well as the bacon brothers. >> any thoughts on the remake? >> i think anything he does is great. >> dana, you like it, too. >> how does he not age a day. he looks fantastic. and i love the song "let's hear it for the boy." i used to play it over and over. thinking about your book and this movie -- what, that's funny? you don't like the visual, my ski jacket getting ready to go outside, but this movie was a knock on conservatives. >> i know, my point i was going to make. >> sorry. >> whenever i think of you growing up in colorado, i think of south park. you can't see your head, totally
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covered and taunted on the bus. this is my point. when i saw the coming attractions, i condemned it without seeing it because it was a predictable evil preacher banning dancing, which is the dishonesty of hollywood lies because that's not how it is. it's not the preacher condemning something. it's the encroachment, it's not the dancing ban. it's an oversexed curriculum. >> dance it out. >> it's such a national treasure. i really don't think we should try to dissect it here. i have thefrb seen it. >> very good. stay right there, don't go anywhere. jimmy kimmel's crew asked random and ridiculous questions about crimea in their man on the street section. >> do you believe crimea's vernal equinox should remain in the multiverse, or do you support the lululemon. >> i support it. >> why? >> well, you know, first of all, i think that -- i believe in
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their beliefs. >> whose beliefs? the ukrainians or the lululemmians? >> the ukrainians. >> in which universe? >> in this one. >> do you think in the alternate universe, the person answering this question knows we're just speaking nonsense? >> no, not at all. >> do you know that? >> no, not at all. >> oh, my god. bobby? >> all i can say is you can always find people like this. it's an embarrassment to watch them say this, but everybody wants an opinion, even if they don't know what it's about. if they have a camera in front of them, even moreso. it's funny. >> the best question was why? >> you know, i kind of am with bob. it's funny, but i hate it because to me, it feels like class warfare, a rich host and his clever writers go out to the street and make fun of everybody else by confusing them and people want to be on tv.
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so -- but i laugh at it, but i'm also going, i feel bad that i laugh at it. >> do you feel bad for people? >> it's interesting because it doesn't identify them with the kimmel show. when we go out, if you put a microphone in someone's face, it says fox news so people know who they're talking to. sometimes they decline to talk to you. this lady wasn't the only one who would need to google crimea. >> they edit a lot, right? they must get a lot of smart people. >> also, they have to get their permission to play it. >> they do? >> oh, yeah. >> have to sign something. >> i would -- if i was so stupid, i don't think i would let them play it, but i get sad when i watch the videos as funny as it is, because i think there's a lot of people who don't know what's happening in russia and aren't familiar with international affairs. this is my issue. there's a lack of honesty. why don't people look at them and say what are you talking about. >> i have to move on, but the
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lululemmians. >> vogue released the newest issue. the kardashians, kim and kanye. that set off a fire storm of humorous covers. check out james franco and seth rogen. and this one, kermit and piggy on their cover of vague. your thoughts on the kardashians' cover? >> look, if they wanted to be really edgy and they wanted to get a lot of controversy, they would have on their cover the "duck dynasty" family. that would be different and subversive. >> this is the intersection of pointlessness. two things you don't care about. vogue and the kardashians. here's the good thing about having her on there. usually a typical issue of vogue weighs more than their models. they got somebody with a lot of flesh. >> what about it? your thoughts? by the way, inside, that was inside where they showed the picture of north, as well? right, she's naked on kanye's chest there.
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>> this is a big deal for those of you who follow this story, which i heard from people that supposedly, kim kardashian has been eyeing to get on the cover of vogue for a long time. and kanye west has been trying to get anna wintour to get her on. in kim's defense, i think she is a fashion icon, and she is an important figure in fashion, if you care about fashion, bob, which i buy vogue and i like vogue, and i follow the story. >> look, this woman -- first of all, the only thing that is likable, she doesn't have sense to read vogue. >> i didn't say she was smart. >> she's smarter than us. >> dana makes a good point. i heard she put down $11 million last year. is that right? >> she's smarter than i am, believe me. >> if you start off with a rich father who is a lawyer for o.j. simpson and you get enough plastic surgery -- >> i don't think she's had plastic surgery? >> come on, she's got them
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a fox news alert. we want to give you an update on the search for the survivors of the devastating mudslide over the weekend in washington, 55 miles north of seattle. at least eight people are dead and the list of missing or unaccounted for has grown to over 100. dan has the latest from arlington. >> yeah, bob, a horrible tragedy unfolding here. the officials have not given up hope. they're still calling this a search and rescue operation, but it is not looking good at this point. hope is definitely diminishing. it's been a difficult and dangerous effort ever since this happened on saturday morning at 11:00.
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the debris and mud is 15 feet high in some spots, and like quicksand, we're told. searchers have to take all-terrain vehicles in because the highway has been wiped out and now comes word that geologists are worried about more landslides. the death toll is at eight and expected to rise. there are 108 reports of people miss, but officials don't believe there are anywhere near that many people actually missing and buried in the mud. at this point, they simply don't know. that's adding to the heartbreak for so many families. we know 35 homes were destroyed along with about a dozen other structures. seven homes upriver have flooded and more are expected to flood as the landslide continues to partially block a river. now, if all that blocked water were to come down at one time, it could flood dozens of homes and destroy five bridges downriver. it's still a very fluid situation, very dangerous situation for search and rescuers as they continue to work in that area that is very, very unstable. >> all right, dan.
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eric, you have a question? >> quickly, there are 108 unaccounted for. is there a window of opportunity to start looking for -- i know they're looking, but i assume they're holding back for fear that some of the search and rescue people could be in jeopardy. are these people at riv of being here too long, where we wonder whether they're too far secluded? >> that's a good question. we heard the geologists are worried about more slides. this is an area hit hard by rains this month. they have already had over seven inches of rain. a normal month of march is about 4 1/2. more rain is expected on tuesday through the weekend, so because of that threat of more slides, yeah, they're in a very difficult situation. and they're pulling back in some areas and going forward in others. they have those all-terrain vehicles going in there where they can safely look for people. they're doing their best, but of course, it's very dicy in there. >> dana, a question? >> dan, i was wondering if there were any more evacuations
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planned for the surrounding area and how long they might be out of their homes. >> what is happening is because the river is being blocked and that lake is being formed behind this mudslide, you have people whose homes are being flooded right now in that -- you know, upriver from the slide area. they're able to watch the water level rise slowly. more homes could be affected. at nighttime, they're asked to leave their homes and come back in the day when they can see what's going on. as far as downriver, the evacuation order was lifted for those folks because there's been a natural trench that has been dug by the water upriver through the debris area, and it's getting back into the normal river again. so thome piece are safe for now. >> dan, we have to go, but one quick question. is there anybody indicating that deforestation has anything to do with this? >> no, this is an area that has been very unstable for years. there was a slide in 1967. another in 2006.
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interestingly, this particular event started three weeks ago when people started to see stuff falling down the hillside, so one of the questions is why weren't more precautions taken as the rain continued to fall? >> thank you very much. good job. a lot of applause around the table when my deforestation question fell flat. i'll have inside information on whether hillary clinton is going to run again. we'll be back. all right, give me a break. peace of mind is important when you're running a business. century link provides reliable it services like multi-layered security solution to keep your information safe & secure. century link. your link with what's next. until you're sure you do. bartender: thanks, captain obvious. co: which is what makes using the mobile app so useful. i can book a nearby hotel room from wherever i am.
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this is probably the only time i'll ever say this on tv. if you have kids, make them leave the room. if you're cooking dinner, turn off and come over. here it goes. there's a report out of britain claiming that 15,000 fetuses were incinerated at hospitals and used sometimes to heat the hospitals as part of a waste to energy program. i know. it's unreal. it reminds me of a movie i saw as a kid called soil and green about an ugly future where humans survived off processed food made from people. soil and green was the food, it was us, a solution to mass poverty.
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so what's england's excuse? how did they get to this point and what does it say about humanity when flesh becomes fuel for those lucky enough to live, and what constitutes waste these days? waste is a substance without value. if you abort a healthy child as a choice, do you forfeit the right to care about where it goes next? once you remove moral values, sadness over its usage becomes absurd. it's like mourning the loss of a tumor. how many media types think fossil fews are evil? out with the new, in with the new. i can see the headline, u.k. discovered new source of green energy to undercut putin. soil and green as energy. there was a special on this tonight, called dispatches. on channel 4 in england. they interview some women who found out about this, katherine hurley lost her baby at eight weeks. this is her talking about the hospital.
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>> i asked what would happen to my baby. and she just kind of said, well, it will be incinerated with the rest of the day's waste. so that was really difficult to hear because to me, it wasn't the day's waste. it was my baby. it would have been nice to have some kind of choice about it, to kind of mark that baby's life, and there was nothing within the hospital that gave us that opportunity. >> go around the table. it's such a horrible story, and i know that it's 5:30, 5:51 in the evening, but who else is going to talk about it if we don't? >> whether you're pro-choice or pro-life, you agree it's a heinouss story, probably the worst we have done on "the five," but it is worth talking about. this is what happened, i think, when governments like in england take control of the health care system. they're not interested in the individual or people's feelings.
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they're interested in the bell curve. everything for the greater curve is put above the needs of the people. the woman was saying i would like a choice. >> it's interesting, i was volved in the waste energy business for a while, and the garbage, what it's meant to burn, it's not meant to burn human flesh. the idea they would do this and get away with this for this long is outrageous. >> so very quickly, just begging the question, these abortion clinics, what are they doing? it's a blatant disregard for human life. it's disgusting. nothing short. >> am i right in the clip we saw, that interview, she lost her baby. she didn't choose to abort the baby. so i think that tonight on that program, as i have read the articles about it, it actually does talk about women who made a decision, women and maybe men involved in the decision, to abort a baby, and where are they
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rethinking that choice? and i'm actually glad to see that britain, having lived there, that channel 4 is taking this on and exposing it because again, if we don't talk about it, and we just pretend like this is too hard to talk about, then i wonder where else you're going to get it. at least you have a free media in britain where you can talk about it. >> officials have condemned it -- >> kind of. >> but they should have known. all right, "one more thing" up next. i don't use super poligrip for hold because my dentures fit well. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. even well-fitting dentures let in food particles. super poligrip is zinc free. with just a few dabs, it's clinically proven to seal out more food particles so you're more comfortable and confident while you eat. so it's not about keeping my dentures in, it's about keeping the food particles out. [ charlie ] try zinc free super poligrip. ♪
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it's time now for "one more thing." greg, you get to kick it off. >> over the weekend, i ran into some serious "the five" fans from all over the world, mainly florida, actually, because that is the world. by the way, eric, by the way, eric, everybody steals "the five" now, so donald was there, and he does -- we were there at mere alarga. >> that's you doing it, dude. >> because they do it now wherever you go. >> isn't it a banned hand signal? >> i hate it. i have to do it because they learned it from you. they ask about bob and they copy the hand thing, but i was there for the guardian fund for allen west. i spoke about my book. they're great guys and they love "the five." bob, they love you. they do. >> everybody loves you, you get to go next. >> okay, for all those stories you read that hillary clinton's advisers, a lot around the country, are in favor of her
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running in 2016, that's not true. there are people around her who are close to her, and they're almost evenly divided about all she should run or not run. some believe it would not be helpful because a lot of stuff would be dug the past on her husband. i lot think she should go out on a high note, and a campaign like this would be damaging to her. >> i think we should do a block on this tomorrow and expand. i had the pleasure of meeting with the george w. bush women's initiative fellows last week. they're here from tunisia. there are 20 of them, women from all different types of sectors from health care, energy, law, education. they come for a month. they get to be in dallas, new york, they go to silicon valley and washington, d.c. they get to visit the new york stock exchange, google, mary y kay, all sorts of things. if you like programs where you're helping people who want to help themselves, it's a very good one. >> i hate those programs. >> we're going to be there on thursday, by the way. andrea is next. >> so noble, and this is not.
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okay, i have been pushing to get this story in "the five," but to no avail. listen to this, two teachers, according to a panel of judges in new york, are allowed to have sex in the classroom as long as their students are, i guess, not around. they can lock the door and after hours do whatever they want. this was a ruling that came out last week. how disgraceful. it's now being dubbed horn dog high. bob is upset we didn't get to talk about it. i guess in de blasio's new york, teachers come first, right? >> bob, you could make a field trip. >> oh, my god. eric is next. >> the single most destructive thing to a free market capitalism over the last 237 years in america has been clearly obamacare. so when barack obama.decided to make this their new bumper sticker, don't tread on my obamacare, with that stethoscope, look at what they're doing. they're thumbing their nose or giving the middle finger to the tea party, the libertarians of
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the world. i have to say, that was -- >> it's not their obamacare. we're paying for it. >> thank you, everybody. don't forget to set your dvrs. never miss an episode of "the five." we'll see you back here tomorrow. "special report" is up next. malaysia's prime minister answers the where, but the what, when, and how of flight 370 remain a mystery. this is "special report." good evening. i'm john roberts in for bret baier tonight. flight 370 and its 239 passengers and crew went down in the southern part of the indian ocean. that is the word today from the malaysian government. but where exactly the plane is, how it got there, and why are questions left unanswered. at least for now. national security correspondent jennifer griffin has the latest for us. >> it


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