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ukranian nationalists and all of this is raising new doubts of the peace agreement that the united states helped broker between united states and the ukraine. i want to bring in fox news correspondent with the latest from ukraine. leland? >> as is typical if this conflict the ukranians are blaming the russians and the russian foreign ministry put out a statement blaming ukranians for breaking the truce on the ground which are hard to come by. this morning, the attack has move add region on the brink of war closer. the video from the seen shows two burned out cars and the remnants of a large firefighter, and the three separatists are dead and a number of others wounded. who fired first is in dispute. the ukraine government claims that the separatists are following orders from now, supported by russian special forces and the intelligence
services. operatists are helping to organize the cases. the separatist control a number of government buildings. they are dug in, well armed and are demanding a referendum to decide if ukraine will be part of russia. a number of the separatist left the compounds without the fear of arrest to attend easter services and feel protected by president vladimir putin who said he deserves the right to use force in ukraine to protect russian interests or supporters. the ukraine government is trying hard not to give now an excuse to order the tens of thousands of troops it has on the ukraine border across into ukraine in an invasion as the russians already did in crimea. russia's ambassador to the united states joins us.
mr. ambassador, welcome to fox news sunday. what do you know about this gun battle that was just reported about at the check point? does it threaten the truce between russia and ukraine? >> first of all, this is very recent event. i do not believe i have more information to share other than to suggest that we are outraged by the attack on the check point and i further understand that the check point was manned by those who did not have arms so these are permit who are representative of the outright movement in the ukraine political spectrum. >> the far right ultra national ist movement. >> far right. it is a problem. and it suggests that the geneva document that calls to disarmament of all illegal entries need to include the
rights center. >> does this put an end to the deal between russia and ukraine? >> it is not a deal between russia and the ukraine. the deal --. >> russia, ukraine, the united states and the e.u.? >> it is about ukranians talking to their own people. that is important. the whole message of the geneva document is the ukraines need to resolve the issues themselves. the united states and the europeans are to support this but unless the ukranian government or whatever they call themselves and the regions of the ukraine talk to each other and agree on things, agree on what country we want to leave, it would should expanded authority of the regional guams, unless they do so, this will be no solution to the crisis.
>> let me pick up on that, you talked about the fact that this nationalist group, the far right group, needs to put down its arms as part of the agreement the pro-russian separatists also agree or at least this was an agreement they were matter party to, the agreement was they would put down their aways and leave the building, they are refusing to do so. let me ask you a question, will not vladimir putin and the russian government tell the separatists to leave? >> we signed the geneva agreement. what is important is that all matters provided for in the geneva statement equally apply throughout ukraine. not only in the east, but, also --. >> i am ask youing a direct question. by refusing to disarm is the russian government prepared to tell the pro russian
separatives, disarm and leave the buildings? >> i have said, it has to be a process that includes everyone including people this the eastern ukraine including and not exclusively. the current problem is the moment the question is navy statement was issued the ukraine colleagues have suggested -- that the circumstances should not be expected earlier in the political spectrum would be willing to rush in demanding an agreement. i sincerely hope that as a result of diligent process that we will have to bring the agreement to be implemented and we will see things developing. but it calls for several things one, all, and i underline "all"
groups that do have the amendments have to be --. >> i understand your point saying that militias in western ukraine, the ones that want a separation from russia, they have to be disarmed. i understand that. i am talking specifically now about your aspect of it which is the pra russian separatists and the commander of nato forces, he said this on friday, what is happening in eastern ukraine is a military operation that is well planned and organized and we assess that it is being carried out at correction of russia and president obama's national security advisor added this. >> we expect and indeed russia is committing to use that influence to diffuse the
situation. >> can russia get the militias to stand down? and will you? >> we are going to do whatever is necessary in order to see the geneva agreement implemented. it is in the best interests of the ukranians and everyone including ourselves but it is part of an effort we are going to and i would underline, again, the word "all" militias need to be dissolved. >> there was a disturbing incident jewish services leaving passover were met by masked men who said they must register we with the authorities.
first, do you condemn that action? can you firmly state that pra russian separatists having in to do with that. >> it is outrageous. we condemn antisemetism and have always been concerned, the -- helping to bring the new government in kiev have shown themselves to be antirussia but, also, antisemetic. we have always been concerned. in geneva document if you look at this carefully, we also condemned all this. when it comes to the provocations i do not have any information who has done it but it is outrageous. >> president obama says if russia does not help diffuse the
situation, speaking specifically about the russian separatists leaving the buildings in eastern ukraine and if you do not help diffuse the situation that the united states will impose further sanctions on russia. >> what you have seen is the russian and weaker, capital fleeing out of russia. the decisions of vladimir putin are not just bad for ukraine but bad for russia. >> mr. ambassador, are you prepared to take another hit to your economy? >> first of all we do not believe the language of sanctions is a good one to talk in the 21st century. second, you cannot work with russia and try to achieve anything through the language of sanctions. third, the sanctions that have been introduced certainly are a significant jess too of the cold
war mentality. it is russia. it is a very solid-state, well developing country and we can withstand pressures. >> i must interrupt. you say this is a revival of the cold war. >> no, i didn't. i said the danger for the cold war d. >> the point i make, when crimea is annexed and president vladimir putin said no russian croups in crimea and then he said, well, we did send russia troops into crimea and you have 40,000 troops on the borders of eastern ukraine and now put says perhaps we need these troops to restore order, isn't that a cold war? >> oh, no. first of all, you are falling about crimea like it is real
estate that we annexed. it is not. there are 2.2 million people living there. the future of crimea was decided by the people in crimea. >> under the thumb of russian troops and pra russian separatists. >> we had a military presence legal up the agreement with the ukraine government and when this was unconstitutional armed overthrow of the government in kiev and wren there were people sent to take over the local government buildings we and the people on on the ground understd there was a thereto so we have to organize ourselves to protect russian presence that was legal
and we also protected the people but we didn't influence the process in crimea organized biological --. >> there are a number of independent experts, observers who disagree with that. a last question, finally, nato announce it was suring up defenses along the border with russia. here is the secretary-general of nato. >> we would have more lanes in the air. more ships on the water. more readiness on the land. >> this week, president putin talked of the historic ties to eastern ukraine as if you russia and today the acting prime minister of ukraine said that putin has dreams every storing the old soviet union. how far is president putin prepared to go?
>> any statements about us having dreams of restoring soviet union is a false notion. second, the allusion to the history of relations between russia and the ukraine by the president was just to show we are so december defined. had are so many families that are spread both in ukraine and russia and we have --. >> to answer my question how far is president putin prepared to go? >> we are not going anywhere, we just want the ukranians to find a new constitution to help them live in a democratic country that supports the rights of all the ethnic groups including certain russians and we want to have a friendly neighbor because for us,er rerespective of what is happen, ukraine just our
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>> i know the american people don't want us spending the next two and a half years refighting the settlement political battles of the last five years. >> president -- it's time for our sunday pool. >> about wrigley field -- >> the former democratic senator evan baye. >> lots of things are supposedly
over. you hear that from people who are finding the evidence inconvenient. >> the foreign subsidies are working. what kind of country do we want do live in? it will kick on for some while. further, we have not seen how the distribution of enrollees, how many are young and female, will have the work of adverse selection. he is contradicting himself saying democrats shut campaign on the excellence of the affordable care act. >> we asked you for wees from the panel, or for the pan circle we got this from tim on twitter who wrote "if it is such a success, why won't they put out the true numbers on would has
paid and how many were previously uninsured at this point." it is not just those numbers. we do not know how many will be able to keep their doctors and go to the hospitals and especially next year, we do not know what their premiums are going to be or their deductibles. a lot of the special questions of how people are going to experience obamacare we do not know. >> that goes to the budgetary issues, and the cbo, a nonpartisan group, has said this will bring down costs, it will help the deficit but we do not quite know why that is happening or if it is because people are spending less because they cannot afford more or because of quality of the health care programs has gone down and we need to understand this before the jury is in. >> president obama had advise for democrats running for office this year as you heard from george, don't run away from
obamacare. here is the president. >> i don't thing we should apologize. i don't think we should be defensive. there is a strong, good, right story to tell. >> bob, is that good political advise if democrats seeking re-election, defend obamacare? >> you don't see red state democrats taking cues but they are running away from the law. democrats in the vulnerable seats such as mary landrieu in louisiana and mark udall in colorado are talking about different issues. they are talking income inequality not obamacare. >> do you think to the extent, bob, that they will have to talk about it because they will be attacked by the republicans' opponent, the announcement of the facts by the president and his argument gives them a talking point to respond?
>> i talked to my democratic sources and they are not running on the law but on medicaid expansion. if it is working in michigan maybe the democrats can make it an argument against republicans. i don't see democrats running toward the president which is supporting the law and touting the $8 billion number. >> senator bayh, now that the website is working and now that eight million people is signed up, will obamacare be less of a burden for democrats than it appears in the depths of the mess with the site in the fall? >> less than six months ago when there was a fear of a complete imlotion and being unmitigated disaster. speaking politically about the best democrats could hope for is to fight this as a draw. the problem is in the midterm election it is town out. when you look at the tolls, the republican base is a lot more
excited against this law than the democratic base is for it so you have a town out problem. i suspect the democrats will, and bob alluded this, is to cherry pick, such as drag -- drug coverage for seniors. you net this out it is a draw. the turnout is a problem. why though what can be done about that between now and november. the democrats have to by have the to something else. >> george, is it a draw substantively? >> i don't, first, for the reasons that evan gives, these are mobilization efforts and the republicans are mobilized by obamacare the gift that keeps on giving for them. also, there are two court decisions that could come down between now and november, four courts are hearing an argument in 34 states that have not established the state exchanges the language of the law makes it clear they cannot distribute the
subsidies from obamacare and may 8 in the second most important court of the lands the d.c. court of appeals is an argument this is objectively a revenue measure, the supreme court said as much, it is a tax new, and it did not originate in the house of representatives and the constitution says all revenue measures must originate in the house of representatives and the whole thing, then, is unconstitutional so the argument is far from over. >> that part of it probably...it will be a hot election issue in november. do you -- how do you see this playing out in november? it clearly is not the unmitigated disaster it was in october. how do you see it? >> i think some of the exemptions allowing certain signups between now and november will favor younger people and you could see more younger people signing up between now and then and it is important to recognize we are where
massachusetts was in the first year in terms of stats when they rolled out a similar plan so it is somewhat favorable but we will need to see more numbers on would signed up and whether they had insurance before and how many of them bought insurance on exchanges. >> quickly, there is a big event to look for between now and november the insurance companies coming out with brotherjections for increases in premiums there people will way for next year. if that is a big number, it is a big problem for democrats. it it is muted, not so much. >> they will see that in october, right, before the november elections? >> you ask members what they care about most, it is what they bay for health care. >> having to do with the young people signing pause we are dealing with risk pool and premiums and now we are dealing with deductibles so it could be a hot button. >> people will say, how much is it costing up? >> when we come back, the
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debate has become symbolic, but not substantial in terms of the why we should proceed with this project. >> canada's ambassador to the u.s. gary dewer slamming the obama administration's latest delay of the decision on the keystone xl pipeline, and we're back with the panel. the state department faced a may 7th deadline for reviewing whether to go forward with the pipeline. now with another delay it seems almost certain that there will be no decision by the administration before the election in november. bob, what do you think of this, another delay, both in terms of policy and in terms of politics? >> i think in terms of politics, you are seeing a real skittish reaction from drmz. mary landrieu, the chairman of the senate energy committee, she issued a statement really criticizing the administration for its delay, and she just issued her first ad in louisiana running on her ability to get things done on energy in washington, and so for people like her and udall in colorado where the pipeline would have a
part, they're really struggling with the administration right now. they need something else to talk about, and the administration is just not helping them out. >> 11 senate democrats, including several of those running for re-election had sent a letter to the president recently asking for a decision, a final decision whether to go ahead by the end of may. senator, by delaying again, is it smart politics on the part of the administration because you don't tick off or maybe you tick off both sides equally, but at least you don't finally disappoint the environmentalists on one side or the independent voters and conservative states where. >> well, first, chris, let me say i am shocked at the cynicism implicit in this line of questioning that politics intrude in important decision making. >> i didn't have this for the first five years, but if you get into year six -- >> thank you. >> the state department has issued their analysis that on the merits about co2, this is basically a wash. it doesn't matter much one way or the other. we do get to the politics.
it basically allows the administration to, you know, have the best of both worlds, to put off a real dilemma. on the one hand, this is a based election. the base in the democratic party cares about this issue. in red states and particularly in louisiana and alaska, which are energy producing states, this is a big issue. so by putting it off six and a half, seven months, the administration is probably concluded -- to answer your question, it is smart politics. >> it is also not an unmitigated disaster for mary landrieu, who is being criticized for being too close to president obama, to be able to blister him and say he is wrong here. >> democrats in blue states run for the -- denial of the pipeline and democrats like mary and mark baggich to distance themselves from the administration and prove that
they're independent. >> you wanted to say something. >> i just wanted to mention that it's also a foreign policy issue. if you think about who is going to benefit most if we don't do the pipeline, it's venezuela, and they produce the same kind of oil that canada does. i think that's an issue that we need to think about. who is our neighbor? who is our friend? who do we want to really benefit from this, canada or venezuela? >> particularly at a time when we might -- some people say -- should be in an energy war with russia. >> energy independence really does in this case trump and jobs trumps the environmental concern. >> george, i want to switch subjects on you. this week the washington post and the guardian newspaper received the highest award in newspapering, the pulitzer prize for their reports based on the leaks from former nsa contractor edward snowden. then snowden appeared on that four-hour call-in show i was talking about with the russian ambassador where putin took questions from people in the audience, questions from people calling up and all over and it was a prerecorded call, video from edward snowden.
take a look. >> does russia intercept, store or analyze many any way the communications of millions of individuals? >> translator: this kind of mass surveillance is kind of uncontrolled mass surveillance we are not allowing for ourselves, and i hope we won't ever allow it. >> a couple of questions. first of all, what do you make of the pulitzer committee giving its highest prize to reporting on a leak that a lot of top u.s. officials say was an act of treason and, secondly, what do you make of that phone call which obviously had been prearranged to putin some some people say he was playing the stooge in a propaganda game. he says, snowden says, that he was trying to put putin on the spot. >> well, take the last question first. lenin whose spirit still infuses the spirit of russia, had a name for people like mr. snowden. useful idiots, he said. idealists, so-called, who serve
the interests of lenin's country. we don't need to listen to snowden anymore giving us lectures about the virtues of an open society when he chooses to go to putin's russia. about the pulitzer prize. in 1972 the "new york times" won the pulitzer prize for the publication of the pentagon papers. the question occurs what work did they do? maybe the award should have gone to daniel elsburg who leaked them. did the paper do more than receive and publish? now, the post -- washington post and the "new york times" did go to court and did establish an important principal will prior restraint that is now part of our constitutional law. still, the question is, i think, in the normal reader's mind, what journalistic effort went into this, what journalistic initiative. this is leaving aside whether the nsa should be doing what it's doing, leaving aside whether people actually are going to get killed because of what snowden leaked when no one was killed because of the pentagon papers.
they were just an embarrassment. >> but i want to pick up on that, rona, and whether this leak is different than that leak. there were certainly plenty of people who screamed when daniel elsburg released the pentagon papers, and he was a former defense department analyst, worked for the ram corporation. these are papers in history that were written by the pentagon saying what they were telling the american people is not what they knew and what they believed themselves. i think from the vantage point of history, while it certainly was an embarrassment, it was not seen as giving up huge facts that were going to endanger people's lives. there's certainly a very active debate about that with snowden's leaks. >> there is, and, you know, he is not a particularly savory character. i think most of us can agree on that. if you look back historically, what the pulitzer for public service is -- since 1918 it's typically been given for a journalism that looks at abuses of power. the federal government has ruled, in fact, that most of what was done here by the nsa
would probably be unconstitutional, so i think there is a precedent for this. i don't think that there's that much difference in terms of these leaks, and i think that we're just at the beginning of seeing what the consequences of all this is going to be. >> well, i guess i'm a little prized. is anybody else noting to contest that? >> i'll let the fourth estate judge the fourth estate. as someone who follows intelligence matters, some, chris, i can tell you russia, china, iran, nonnation state actors that are involved in terror have changed their behavior because of these leaks. that damages the national security interests and possibly the physical well being of the american people. it's difficult for me to see how that issen act of public service. >> bob, i mean, is this another daniel elsburg, which i guess as i say now is seen as an act of public service, or is it something that shouldn't have been honored regardless of what the papers did? >> i think the post was ambitious with its journalism. it took a risk on behalf of something they thought was in the public interest, and that's just old school journalism.
>> you don't buy it? >> well, if we published the rosenberg's nuclear secrets to the russians, would that have been an act of public service? i don't think so. >> when the troop ships are going to arrive in europe -- >> look, as i said, i leave it to the press to judge the press, but this has damage to the nation's security. >> all right. thank you, panel. we have to take it -- we have to leave it there. see you next week. be sure to tell us what you think about the administration's latest delay to propose keystone pipeline on facebook and share your favorite moments from today's show with other fns viewers. up next on this easter sunday, we'll look at what pope francis has accomplished in his first year and where he will take the church now. cardinal donald wuerl of washington joins us next.
s pope francis led his second easter mass at the vatican today pope francis led over 100,000 at st. peter's and prayed for peace in syria and ukraine. i spoke with the archbishop of washington, dc, donald cardinal wurle. let's start with what is called the francis effect, the impact of the pope, his first year in. has he made a difference in the life of the church in washington? >> i think so. there is a difference. in a certain sense it is intangible a sense of spirit, a sense of being uplifted and a
great sense of people feeling a lot closer to the church than they did, say, two years ago. that is part of the francis effect. he touches people and he showed them a face of the church that always has been there that hasn't always been so ever den: the face of a loving and forgiving christ if his church. >> let me pick up on that, the pope famously said that he sees the church as a field hospital after battle and he wants to spend less time arguing over doctrine and more time ministering to the poor. has it changed your approach and that of your priests? >> what he is saying to us and this is very important and i would like to think he is helping us doing what we have tried to do, he is saying to us the teaching is there, we know the teaching. here is how you do it.
here is how you do it in a way that people can experience and come on board with. i like to thank that it is reaffirming for all of us, what we have been trying to do and, if nothing else, it is saying, you are on the right track. >> the pope appointed you to the coverage graduations for bishops to choose the new lowers the church and he said bishops should not have the psychology of princes but, rather, should enchant the world with a beauty of love. it is an interesting choice of words. >> it is. because we are mindful we have an office we have to discharge in the life of the church but he is saying, the heart and soul of that office is transmit the love of god, transmit the love of christ. when we met with him to talk
about what he expects of that congregation for bishops he said bishops have to be parent, have to be maybe. they have to be patient. it finds bishops who love being pastors of souls. we will simply be patient with them. >> you have written a new book called "the light is on for you" about the importance of confession. the pope town the world when he took public confession a few weeks ago. what is it that he and you are saying? >> we are saying that the love and forgiveness of god is always there, this is something that pope francis said that i love that repeat over and over again, that god never gets tired of forgiving him, we sometimes get tired of asking to be forgiven. that is what confession is all about. god is always there.
god is always forgiving. he has given in jesus christ he has given the pow 24 his church to forgive sin, why don't we take advantage of it? that is what the pope is saying. simply by kneeling down and going to confession in public he said to the whole world, it is okay to do this, we still do this and that is why "the light is on program" has been in washington, dc, come and experience the forgiveness of love, experience the love of cite. >> we see all of these public moments, just this week he took the two young boys out in the popemobile st. peter's square and he wants the feet of not only christians but muslims and sinners and you have dealt with him in your new post with the congregation for bishops and you say navien to private meeting that the world doesn't see he conducts himself differently
than other popes you have had contact with. >> he is the same at these meeting as we see him in the square. he has such a sense of humanity, of ease and comfort. at a recent meeting he came and stayed foe three hours which is unheard of for a pope to attend a meeting. he come ms. and pulls up a chair while we are sitting around and we two hours into the meeting and he says don't we usually get a coffee break? >> he didn't decree a coffee we break. >> he has been a member of that commission and he knew that we always stopped for coffee in the afternoon but he was making the point let's try to keep this as normal as possible. what i loved about the first meeting he came to, a senior cardinal said we are working on
this, what do you think and he said, if i told you what i think you would all agree. i want to hear from you, what you think. >> so it is a collegial process. >> he wants there being a process where the he hope can be heard. >> he wants all of us to be speaking with him so at the end of the day he can say this truly was the fruit of the work of the spirit. >> you are part of a lawsuit with the court of appeals hearing next month on the birth control mandate for obamacare. now, under the law and the ex exemptions, you say that is not enough. what is missing? >> at the heart of our lawsuit
is the constitutional issue. we have said it is not the role of any administration, they government, to tell us what is our ministry. we have said all long, our identity and our ministry are one. when we listen in matthews emboss people --' gospel, that is part of "do this in memory of me." >> we were if there are non-catholic workers you are saying that is part of the ministry. >> here in the district in our catholic schools in the inner city the largest percentage of them are not catholic. we are educating them because that is our responsibility to issue, to help people get ahead in life. they don't have to become catholic to come to our schools
but as we have said all along, we do it not because they are catholic, we do it because we're catholic. we don't want the president to say if you are going to do it this is how you must do it. >> easter is the most sacred day in the church calendar but there are some people who are saying that next sunday, a week from today, will actually be a bigger day in st. peter's because the pope and we have the pictures on the screen, is going to preside over the canonization of two predecessors, john paul 22, to be canonized as saints and john xxiii he is making a mistake as canonizing a progressive and a conservative pope on the third same day? >> what he is saying there is a continuity in the life of the church, the doctrine of the church never changes and we are living in a age of the second
vatican counsel. john xxiii called the council and he was loved for his simplicity. he said when he was elected, job paul, i see my ministry as implementing the city council, d pope francis is saying there is a wonderful continuity of 9 updating and these two men are very holy examples. >> finally, do you have an easter message for us? >> easter is always for every christian the time of celebration of the resolution recollection of jesus christ from from the dead, for the world a type of hope to realize we never have to live in desperation, despair, god holds out for us the pledge of new
life. of eternal life. that is the message of easter. look to the future and know each of us is capable of building a bet we world, in a fullness it will be the kingdom of god. each of success capable of that. resurrection is all about new life and that is why we say hallelujah. >> cardinal, thank you for coming especially on this busy week and happy easter. that's l hallelu halleluja. coming up, our power player of the week, a taste of george washington's whisky. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] you're watching one of the biggest
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estate and he's talking how george washington got into the zis tillry business in the last years of his life. by the time of his death, 11,000 gallons were distilled. >> it now distils apple, and beach brandy. >> how much demand is there for your product? >> it sells out immediately. >> what's the top price you charge for a bottle -- >> we sell for $195 a bottle. >> when washington left the presidency in 1797, his scottish farm manager said they had the water, crops, and grist mill to start a new business. >> as a former general of the army and former president of the united states did the idea of distilling whiskey give him pause. >> i think for him he was nervous what kind of message it would project, and what kind of
element it would attract. >> after his death, the distillery burned down. they make whiskey the same way they did back then. >> i'm going to take the water, put the water into the barrel. >> it is hard work. they put rye and malt and yeast into barrels and let it ferment for three days then they carry the mash over into stills and turn it eventually into whiskey. >> some of it comes out as water and some of it comes out as alcohol. we're testing regularly to see what proof we got. we want to make sure we have the right proof of whiskey. >> washington was not a heavy drinker, but there is a famous story of him visiting a fishing
club in philadelphia. >> he was invited at one moment to go. he kept a diary every day, after having the fish house punch, his diary was empty for three days straight. he would say it's very strong stuff. >> there was only one thing to do. sample the peach brandy. >> we're glad to have you here. >> this is as close as what george washington drank as you can make it. >> and we say hoozah. it's a revolutionary war cheer. >> whoa! pretty good. >> it is good. >> if you like peach brandy. [ laughter ] >> it was strong stuff. mt. vernon sells 2,000 bottles a year of whiskey and brandy, and they have special permission from the commonwealth of virginia to sell it without a liquor license. and that's it for today. have a happy easter great
week. we'll see you next "fox news" sunday. great week, we'll see you next fox news sunday. this is the fox report. tonight as christians around the world celebrate easter, pope francis selling the faithful in st. peter's square keep the needy in your heart. the pontiff also praying for a swift end to the crisis in eastern ukraine. both sides there continue to clash as a temporary truce krumbles. >> deadly violence in ukraine. bullets flying in the country's east. ukraine and russia now pointing fingers as u.s. lawmakers on both sides of the aisle renew calls for action. and boston, feeling strong ahead of tomorrow's marathon. >> somebody said it may be the safest place in