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>> here to plug. >> we have such perilous times. we have never needed batman more. >> we're going to continue this round table in the after the show show. ♪ ♪ bill: a fox news alert. the fbi is asking for your help in tracking down this terrorist. the fbi wants to know if anybody recognizes that isis fighter or his accent. martha: federal officials posting this short is very video. they are hoping somebody will listen to it and it will be familiar to them and they will
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recognize his voice. bill: they have done this in the u.k. already. why is the fbi so desperate to find this particular man? >> reporter: because hements the stad becausehe's the staff s is a highly stylized recruitment video. they posted it to their website and now they need help. this mysterious militant's face is most live obscured by a black mask. but his voice can be heard speaking english and arabic. >> you can see them digging their own graves in the very place where they were stationed. >> reporter: since the fbi has very little to go on.
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so far social media has been a huge part of the isil game plan so the fbi is seeing if they can use the internet to help. bill: what is the fbi doing to stop americans from stopping americans from joining isil overseas. >> reporter: they were passed out in the minneapolis area. the fbi thinks there are a dozen americans fighting with isis. and others have left to train with the terror group and have returned home.
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martha: a chilling threat to members of the u.s. military at home. they need to keep their facebook profiles private. the father posted photos of a flyover mission to his facebook account. so groups sympathetic to isis started to swarm the account urging members to slaughter this father and son. the pentagon is telling all members of the military they need to be village flenlt their safety. >> bill: the u.k. says it may have twawrltd --may have thwarted at terror plot. part of the investigation is looking into possible public beheadings in london.
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martha: a live look at the border of turkey and syria. can you imagine look out your backyard and seeing that. sticking out of the mountainside a black isis flag. kurdish fighters are out numbers and out gunned. they are struggling to hold them back. >> we have been striking when we can. isil is a learned enemy, they know how to conceal themselves in towns. >> we are just about 2 mile from the town of kobani. i'll ask my cameraman to zoom beyond me to take a look at this
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place. it looks like we are in the final stages of the battle. you are seeing smoke hang over that town. that's a remnant of the fighting between isis and the kurds. take a look at what we saw. again it happened just in front of where we were in the center of the town. we believe it was the result of a u.s. coalition air strike on that position. we are told that position is an isis staging area, a command post and ammunition dump. we saw a huge mushroom cloud come up. we are all sole told there were many terrorists killed. we all this day have been
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hearing close quarter combat. this is eerie. there is a good chance isis already has control of that area. more on the u.s. airstrikes the past 10 minutes. cent come confirming six strikes in the area, mostly on the outskirts of the town. we have also been seeing more in the center of the town. the kurdish fighters say they are grateful for these strikes but they are concerned not enough has been done earlier. clashes between the kurdish ethnic population and the turkish government. they want the turkish government to do more. the security responded in kind. 18 people died in turn ski overnight after those protests. i'll ask one more time to zoom in. we rarely get this live view of
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kobani. we have been talking about this place for a number of weeks. it looks inconsequential. a population of 60,000 more so. 2,000 to 3,000 fighters on the kurdish side and on the other side we have the is very fighters. we are hearing some rapid machine gun fire, a sign of the battle going on. a sign this battle could be ending very soon. we'll be tracking it all for all you folks. martha: that's absolutely an extraordinary look from a very close vantage point of this battle going on. unbelievable that you point out you have the battle going on in kobani and in turkey the kurdish fighting against their own on that side of the borderer asking for more help in the fight they are trying to take part in kobani as well.
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bill: meanwhile president obama goes to the pentagon before he continue to the west coast for several fundraisers. the white house said to be frustrated with turkey for not doing more to stop isis. there are a lot of angles on the story as you rightly point out. the biggest issue is isis is on the move clearly. >> absolutely. there are questions about why aren't the turks who are a nato coalition partner doing more. questions about what is our goal of the role of assad. the biggest issue is isis forces are on the move, they are conquering territory and u.s. airstrikes aren't stopping them. monday and tuesday there were five u.s. coalition airstrikes. but they hit a couple of tanks, some artillery pieces but they are not stopping the progress of
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isis. bill: if that's the case, has the u.s. airstrike strategy failed to this snoint. >> i think it's too early to say that. but remember the republican cite nicks the senate who called the whole u.s. strategy of airstrikes opinion pricks. -- o. if there are are more isis advances there will be questions about whether we are hitting hard enough. bill: leon panetta says the president is alreadying as he goes. can you say he is learning something on this front between isis, syria, iraq? >> well, that's how presidents learn is on the job.
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i think what panetta what is talking about, will the u.s. completely leave afghanistan or leave a residual force in afghanistan like it did not in iraq? i think there is a lot of agreement the u.s. should not have completely left iraq in 2011 as president obama chose to do. but the bigger question is obama's lessons aside, is the united states going to be able to stop the advance of isis before it's taken so much territory it has established a new caliphate. bill: byron york, thank you very much. out of kansas city. 11 past. martha: charles krauthammer warning the fall of kobani could be disastrous. >> if this falls it will be a huge setback for the united states and any of the good guys on the ground in syria or iraq. martha: you just saw that city
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over the shoulder of our own gregg palkot. why it's so important and why anything can can't be done to stop isis. then this ... bill: that is said to be a routine traffic stop that descended into chaos. why police said they smashed in that window and tasered the passenger inside. martha: bill o'reilly put leon panetta in the hot seat. their contentious debate over the president's biggest foreign policy decisions coming up. bill: you and a bunch of other people hillary clinton, and the secretary of state, said you have got to keep to troops there. did you pound the table like i would have or were you diplomatic like you usually are.
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martha: a fire near yosemite national park turned deadly. a plane crashed killing the pilot. the kawstles that crash is under investigation. >> what happened today in kobani is very important. for all of the happy talk we
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just heard from a state department spokesman about our great advantage is nonsense. what's happening now in syria is so important. the syrian kurds are trying to hold their ground. they are being defeated and route. it will be a strategic and symbolic victory if they are defeated. bill: let's show our viewers what we think is happening on the ground. tell us what you think is significant. kobani is the town where gregg palkot is reporting. if you are to take this town, you have a corridor that stretches west of baghdad up to the sunni triangle west of mouse and up to the northern border with turkey. why is isis focused so as much on this particular area on the border with turkey?
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>> they want too push the caliphate out to the border as much as they can as they have done with the border of jordan and iraq. they also want a corridor from raqqa * to aleppo where they are fighting all the way in western syria. they need this corridor to have uneven comhaveunencumbered tran. obviously the kurds are in the way and they appear to be able to dominate this town and the syrian kurds. bill: this is the town of kobani. this is the border with turkey. the wait house is expressing frustration with the turkish government. what panetta said last night with o'reilly, when america stepped back from the world stage he expected others to fill that gap.
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so far in cases like turkey that hasn't happened. you have got airstrikes that hit an anti-aircraft weapon. that's six. but you have by my count two days and five airstrike. is that strategy enough to fulfill this mission? >> to date they had 18 air strikes in this area up to yesterday and 5 or 6 today. but we got into this a little late without enough airstrikes to make true difference. we were attacking other targets. we began in syria on 23 september. many of us wanted to begin after mosul fell. that was months ago. so we have given isis lots of opportunities. so they have been at this for some time. and the airstrikes have not been able to stop them from
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advancing. now they are in the villages and the neighborhoods inside kobani and very difficult without a partner on the ground, bill, to be able to get at those forces when they are next to population centers as they are now. >> are you prepared to say our strategy has failed? and is the commander-in-chief ready and willing to adapt. >> i hope this will force the limit team top reassess and take their advice. let's use the airstrikes in coordination with troops on the ground for effective airstrikes against isis. it's been adapting to these airstrikes. but we can still be effective against them with air power. at the end of the day we'll not rout them out until we have ground forces to be able to do
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that and partners on the ground who are effective at doing that. that is what we need. >> you are saying what turkey wants is the u.s. to commit ground troops? >> turkey is a culprit here as much as an ally. they permitted the foreign fighters to pass through their country into syria, they are permitting black market oil to pass through their country. despite the parliament who approved the turkish military to foe into syria and bases used by the coalition. they are sitting there watching the destruction taking place. their excuse is assad first, isis second. we don't move until the u.s. puts ground troops on the ground. the u.s. is very frustrated with turkey's position. bill: jack keane, your analysis much appreciated.
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martha: the world's largest retailer taking away health insurance from thousands of their employees and raising the cost to others. who walmart is blaming for this move. bill: a train derailment spilling dangerous cargo. >> i moved.
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>> has map the crews responding to a. bill: haz mat crews on the scene after a tanker * cars derails
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>> i would move tomorrow. bill: the train was carrying hydrochloric acid and other dangerous chemicals. thankfully no one was injured. martha: walmart dropping its insurance plans for some 30,000 part-time workers. they will be raising the premiums for the rest of the country. that will get started next year. stuart varney joins us now. they had instituted this rule for people who worked 24 hours or less. they said their costs are rising dr. mat eggally and we have to go up to the 30-hour level. reporter: 30,000 part timers dropped. the rest of the country if they get their plan from walmart they
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will pay more. this is a direct result of obamacare. what obamacare did was to push up the cost of healthcare coverage. not down. it went up. obama care also allows companies to push out the door anybody who works less than 30 hours a week. so what's happening at walmart is a direct result of the failure of obamacare. martha: but yet we heard from the president the other day. he stood up in front of a big group, despite what they tell you on fox news this is working well for people in america. >> reporter: not so. broken promise number one that costs would go down. they have not. they have gone up. walmart facing $500 million in extra healthcare costs. item number two the president said this will not put a single dime on the deficit. we are pushing millions of people into heavily subsidized
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or free healthcare. it's broken promises. martha: i would imagine walmart like any company would look for ways to have fewer emexplosiveees under that 30-hour mark. >> reporter: that's true of industry throughout america. there are far more part-time jobs available than five years ago and fewer full-time jobs. obamacare skewed the labor market in favor of part-time workers who don't have to be covered by their employer. >> i remember trump saying it would alter the 40-hour workweek. you say there is a union element
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as well. >> reporter: the unions are going to go after walmart. they will say you are going to make $17 billion net profit and you won't give a living wage to your employees? you won't give them healthcare? the counter argument is walmart's profit march general is razor thin. any increase in costs has to be met with some form of cost cutting. that's capitalism, that's what walmart is doing. martha: if they don't do that their shareholders won't be happy and their stocks will go down. >> reporter: and they swroanlt money to invest in the future. bill: three weeks to go until america votes. scott brown going on offense after a scathing new political ad. scott brown will give us his take when he joins us live in a
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matter of moments. martha: bill o'reilly says the president needs to get in the ring on isis. bill: all three of you looked barack obama in the eye and said you have to keep forces there.
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bill: a fox news alert. we talked about the fbi looking for information on this man who speaks with what is said to be a north american accent. the fbi is look at facial features trying to figure out his accent and voice. they are look for help trying to pinpoint who this guy is. the fbi and the cia are worried about social media trying recruit more people with western passports and join the fight in syria. they can stop it as the u.k.
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government has done to a degree they would consider that a big success. more on that in a moment. martha: former defense secretary leon panetta sat down with bill o'reilly saying there is no question president obama's decision to pull troops out of iraq was a mistake and we are reaping the result of that. >> he supported cia and diplomatic operations. the real issue was how hard did he fight. bill: he didn't fight hard at all. >> frankly it's not going to work just to do air attacks without having people on the ground who know where the targets are and what's going on. deep down he knows what needs to be done. what he's got to do is develop the will to fight to get into the ring to make it happen.
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bill: he better get on it. martha: there is a lot to go through. alan colmes is the host of the alan colmes radio show. you have got leon panetta saying that the president made a mistake gnat not leaving those forces there. though he might have wanted to leave them there he didn't fight hard enough to make sure that happened. that has opened the door to the situation that we find ourselves in. he also talked about having the will to see it through which is an amazing statement by leon panetta. what's your reaction to that particular sound bite? >> i don't think it's right for leon panetta to be writing books. he does so at a disadvantage of the president. if you serve a president you should allow him to continue serving. leon panetta is only
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corroborating what everybody else knew. this president is ineffective, he has no plan, he doesn't take the advice of people around him. hillary clinton and will rrp had no influence on this president. martha: he said we sat at that table and told him what we believed needed to be done. when you put these people in charge. isn't it your responsibility once you appointed these people to take all of their advice into account? but he didn't take any of their advice into account according to leon panetta. >> that's right. martha: if that's what happens do you have the right to speak out about it if you feel there is an injustice being done to that level? >> leon panetta is profiting off this. there is no secret why this book came out weeks before a mid-term elect. leon panetta is profiting from his service. i don't think that's an
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honorable thing to do. he could go up on capitol hill and testify and giving senators the briefing he gave in his book. this is self-serving to clean up his record. martha: he may be preparing a hillary run as well. he said the president needed to develop the will to get into the ring and fight. what do you think? >> i want a president who's reluctant to go to war. i don't want a president who is a hawk going to war at of opportunity. as leon panetta said diplomacy and using intelligence. we are now bombing two countries, syria and iraq. he's now the president to be doing that. what is he not doing that his detractors ... martha: the boots on the ground issue and the decision to leave that off the table and saying he will not put boots on the ground
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when every military adviser around him -- the goal he stated himself to destroy isis cannot be achieved if he's not willing to open that door. >> while i'm against his incursion, i don't think we belong there, however, if you are going go in, you have to go in full force. we have special opposite on the ground. we d we have specia special-opse ground. there are boots on the ground but if you are going in you have to go in with overwhelming force which we have the ability to do. and have an end game. martha: would you call this malpractice? you are saying you don't want to go in. but once you go in you have to go in to win. >> i'm against going in but if you go in you have got to go in all the way. but i don't want a president who is not reluctant -- i want a
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president who is reluctant to go to war in the first place. martha: i don't think you will find any argument on that anywhere. i want to talk about this other sound bite. it gets to the issue of what kind of president obama is. let's listen to this one. >> they are both bright, they are able and want to do wham right for the country. i think bill clinton likes politics and likes the engagement. barack obama does not like the engagement of engaging in politics. bill: how does it hurt it. >> it hurts him in terms of getting things done. that's what concerns me. this country cannot stand another 2 1/2 years of stalemate. martha: two things in the job description for the presidency. one is to protect the country and keep it safe and the other is too deal with congress to get stuff done.
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according to leon panetta this president doesn't have much of an appetite for either according to that last sound. >> this president governs the way he wished things to be instead the way they are. presidents have to work hard at the deals that can be made internationally and domestically. look at the president's schedule. he doesn't standing meeting with the leaders of the congress as george w. bush did to engage and talk and see common ground. this president is dwoarlsed from that. you can't be effective if you are divorces from not only the people advising you on the inside but also congress. martha: there is a piece suggesting there could be a shakeup coming in the white house in november. >> he said it helped save his presidency, it has to be something they may be considering. conservatives could be leaving out some of the positive things
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panetta said. he's well-reasoned. defended hillary clinton on benghazi. >> martha: as bill o'reilly said at the end, he's been a strong public servant and decent guy and there is no doubt he felt the need to balance his portrayal. but what he said about the president is stinging. it truly is. brad and alan, thank you very much. bill: then there were four. what a finish for st. louis and san francisco. the cardinals and giants advance. the last four runs the giants scored did not come from a single hit. they had shah combined total of two earned runs and lost. a couple much wild pitches. the cardinals, giants series. the past five series involved
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these two teams. matt adams hit a shot in the 7th inning. a 3-run home run to take' hope the dodgers. martha: who do you like? bill: i don't know, there is four left. the national league, the american league. kansas city baltimore? give me a day to think about that. my team is not in it. martha: we'll have to find someone to root for. bill: yes, we will. martha: you have seen this video perhaps. it's a routine traffic stop that was anything but routine. the people in that car have accused the police of excessive force. we'll tell you what happened in the 13 minutes before that video.
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i'll ask the former senator about the new political ads about some explosive allegations next. >> what if airstrikes don't work where are rethen? >> i don't believe we can send tens of thousands of americans troops to be an occupying force in the middle east. ♪ americans drink over 13 billion gallons of sugary beverages every year. over-consumption may link to obesity. but there is a better choice. drink more water, filtered by brita. clean, refreshing, nothing is better.
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how do you close the gap if you even do. >> the gap has already been closed. the polls have had my and had me tied. people recognize while she is a nice person, she is voting with the president over 99% of the time while she has been there. nose failed policies with obamacare and bored and foreign policy are not where most granite staters are. bill: you are painting her as obama's foot soldier. she is painting you as anti-woman. there was a nasty ad she put out about you and abortion and a strong response from your camp. how did these arguments shake down in terms of voters in new hampshire.
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are voters in new hampshire responding to this anti-woman claim or are they responding to the national security issue that now faces the country. >> women's issues are very important. i'm an independent pro-choice republican and i have been ever. that bill is about adoption. she has been twisting it around saying i'm forcing to women to do certain things and that couldn't be further from the truth. it was a dishonest ad. when i speak to women not on the do they know i'm pro choicew choice, they are rk niets they are other things they are concerned about and that is securing our border and making sure we can have a safe country and travel throughout this world in safety. they recognize heating costs are going off the charts in new hampshire and new england and obamacare coming in after the election. safety for them and their
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families rights above just focusing on the fact that women shunned getting contraception. i agree with that so i'm not sure where the breakdown is. women in new hampshire and across this country are smarter and care more about those issues as well as the women's health issues. they are intertwined. i'm with them on every one of those issues. bill: when people think of you they have think of you in massachusetts. you owned a home in new hampshire for decade. you were born on the sea coast. how do you handle the charge being a carpet bagger trying to get back into the u.s. senate by running in new hampshire. >> we don't hear it hardly at all anymore because senator shaheen is from missouri. we both care about new hampshire. we have two senators who worked together. they voted the the same on the same bill.
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the people can say how did scott brown vote on border security? he voted to close the bored and send troops. how did he vote on the keystone pipeline. he's in favor of it and she is opposed. people in new hampshire are pretty savvy. that's why i'm going into their living rooms and businesses and holding town halls. i held 6 open town halls compared to her zero. we have everything in a great trajectory so i can be the 51st senator and make harry reid the minority leader. let's talk about our deficit, taxes, spending, jobs. national security, foreign policy, immigration. if people want help they can go to scott >> do you think those issues resonate in new hampshire? are they concerned about the debt? >> i think the issues of
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security and obamacare and the gridlock in washington. i was the most bipartisan senator? in the united states senate. senator shaheen is like harry reid is representing new hampshire. he controls the agenda and she always foot soldier for him and the president. people are excited about getting involved. bill: we put out an invitation to jeanne shaheen and we think she'll take us up on that and we hope to have her on in a few days' time. martha: president obama will head to the pentagon as there are new reports that the white house is allege are you at a key ally as another syrian city may be about to fall. bill: more reason why you might want to put away more money for retirement. we'll explain.
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martha: a couple is filing a federal lawsuit against police in louisiana accuse them of excessive force. it happened after they were pulled off because the drive wasn't wearing a seat belt. what prompted the police? what happened in that car between this couple and these police before they broke the window? >> reporter: even before that smashed window and the taser gun, police say police placed spike strips under the tires of
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their car. she says the officers were extremely aggressive after getting her license, they asked for her boyfriend's license as well. when he reached into the book bag to get paperwork for them. at that point the couple said they didn't feel safe. they thought other recent cases of officers using excessive force. oh they salt 911 to ask for help. >> we said could we get someone out here because we don't people safe and he couldn't do that. >> reporter: that's when this happened. smashed window and several taser guns while the couple's 14-year-old son and 7-year-old daughter were in the back seat.
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you could hear her crying. it was shot by her brother who said he was scared for his life. martha: what is the police department saying? >> they are maintaining their officers did nothing belong this incident. a statement that reads in part, the hammond officers were at all times acting in accordance with officer safety and indiana law. bill: the fbi needs your help finding this member of isis. he speaks perfect english and do it with an americans accent. so i can reach ally bank 24/7, but there are no branches?
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president sits down with our military leaders to discuss how this is going so far. welcome, everybody, a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." bill: the turkish troops gathered on the border have not made a move, apparently frustrating the administration so far. >> i think turkey is determining what larger role they will play broadly as part of the coalition moving forward and that conversation is on going. i think they are open to doing that. there is an active conversation about that. martha: ed henry live on the north lawn. what can you tell us? >> reporter: you can hear the u.s. doing the dance diplomatically about what we grant turkey. it's clear when want them more involved in the coalition to fight isis. but what president erdogan has
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been saying is he wants to take out president assad. that's the bigger long-term problem across his bored. president erdogan has a dire warning about the pictures you see along the turkish border that the city of kobani is about to go down to isis. and he says this terror cannot be stopped by air attacks alone. jen psaki rejected that. but it's interesting there was this report by the associated press last night about the bombing campaign 60 days in now starting with iraq and going on to syria saying it has not pushed isis back in terms of getting territory back from them in iraq or syria. martha: you want to know why turkey doesn't put their money where their mouth is. they are a nato ally. how does that play together? >> as you say, if isis deside to
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cross that border just by a few hundred yard into turkey that might force president erdogan to use turkish troops. if it's an attack on turkey, an attack on wins an attack on all. it's an attack on the u.k., the united states and that might force president obama to get even more heavily involved than we are today. isis is probably not going to cross that border because they realize that would complicate things for them quickly in a large way. but if they do cross that border that complicates the situation pore president obama in a big way. martha: ed, thank you. bill: this morning the fbi is looking for your help asking if you know this terrorist. >> you can see them digging their own graves in the very
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place they were stationedg th t. >> after an analysis that included bio metrics and facial recognition, they say he's probably from the midwest though canadian national has not been ruled out. they say other leads were pursued. if this isis fighter is confirmed to be an american it will be the first documented case of a u.s. citizen engage in a mass execution for the isis terror network. tiplines are considered reactive', adding a tipline that invites people to post photos and data is a preferred me thunder on controversial issues because it's one thing to go to a place of worship to take
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pictures and another when the public provides them. the senior fbi agent told fox news the recent decision by the bureau and justice department to curtail surveillance in mosques has limited investigations. bill: how do we categorize that? >> a senior state department official said they believe isis has multiple media outlets. they said isis has five tv stations in mosul, northern iraq and two tv stations in raqqa, syria. he says there is a mount everest of cad rallization on social media. and fernandez says those who repost and retweet the propaganda have a formal name. they are called the isis fan
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boys. martha: bil bill gavin is the fr director of the gavin group. up heard catherine's report. you look at this video and he is speaking with an american accent. they think he's an american or potentially a canadian. what do you make of the tape alone? >> i think the tape is frightening. it is what they have always been, bar barans wh barbarians. they identified the barbarian who killed james foley through these times of tapes. i would caution they learn every single time they do something that doesn't go exactly the way they want it to do. so there is always a possibility that that voice is not the voice of the individual. it could be a voiceover for the tape itself because mouth is
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covered fairly well. that may not necessarily be true but it's a possibility. martha: how about the fact the fbi turned to the american public. somebody out there knows this voice and knows these eyes. if you know that person, you know those are their eyes. what do you think about this part of the effort? >> i think anybody who recognizes either the voice or the eyes or the voice and the eyes are one and the same person, they need to get in touch with the fine immediately whether it be through the website which is the tips website or directly by calling the local fbi office. it's very, very important to identify and get this barbarian off the grid. >> we watched the fbi director jim comey. he said they know who the 12 people are they referred to. do you have think this man is one of the 12? if so, why would they be reaching out to the public for
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more information. >> i believe the director said 12 have gone and come back. so anything is a possibility in this particular set of circumstances, martha. >> martha: what about the other thing catherine talked about, the curtailing of our ability to investigator to go into mosques to talk to people and ask them questions about whether or not they know this man and potentially others. >> it's a controversial subject. i recall that was done in 1993 in the first bombing of the world trade center. we had gone into some of the mosques along with the new york p.d. to try to determine who some of these people were. it's very controversial. but if in fact we can get people to come out of the mosque and talk about something like this, if they have seen this individual and know this individual from a mosque and
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come forward to identify him. martha: why would we be curtailing our aability to do that at this moment in time when obviously there is a big threat presented here? why would we be making it more difficult for our agents to do that. if something happens in this country and its traced back to a specific place or a mosque or a place we could have gone to ask questions to stop this person it will lack bad for the fbi and everybody else involved. >> you are absolutely right. it always has. you remember how bad it looked post-9/11 when it was determined the intelligence forces weren't talking to' each other because they couldn't by law. whether it be a directive from the department of justice. it's dangerous. i see no reason why we couldn't go in and ask these kinds of questions. martha: they spoke to people at the mosque where tamerlan
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tsarnaev worshiped. bill, thank you very much. always glad to have you with us. bill: 9 minutes past the hour. the pentagon warning our military members keep a low profile online after a chilling threat from isis. the former head of the cia and former defense secretary leon panetta with bill o'reilly. >> we told the president there is an attack going on, terrorists are involved in the attack. and you have to respond to it. martha: did the administration not tell the truth about what happened in benghazi? bill: president obama being held at a distance by many democrats. has the party benched the president over declining poll numbers?
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that an air force member and his teenaged son were quart swarmed with threatening messages from isis sympathizers on their facebook pages. carl, good to have you with us. it's disturbing. it says scour social media addresses of u.s. military families and quote show up at their homes and slaughter them. what do we dough about this? >> a clear reminder isis is clearly adept on the battlefield and on social media that they use as their primarily recruiting tool. it's a good reminder also that for every message and every facebook and every tweet that comes in, there is a trail that takes law enforce t. and intelligence people back to somebody out there associated with is very trying to create problems for us.
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martha: i want to pull up another quote from the isis linked twitter account that says this. when have a raid on an american pilot account at 9:00 evening mecca time who is participating in the crusaders' being. retweet this if you are ready to participate in this raid. what can the military do to make themselves safer? >> advise military personnel to be careful. the fact that's isis could find it on the web. they have a cadre of people focusing on potential tarring test like that. but the military is warning people to be cautious about who they are friends with and what they say, and how much personal information is out there.
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i think there are prudent things that can be done. against that backdrop be if isis is looking for people i think i said before, every car that belongs to every military man or dependent has a sticker on it that allows them on or off a base. that's the biggest red flag out there if isis is looking for people. martha: our members of the military are proud to wear the uniform and proud to indicate that on their cars and social media. they have a find a fine line with all of this, i suppose. >> everybody needs to be alert all the time. not only our military people, but people on the street. the potential for lone involves, incited by isis and things they see that isis posts. their desire to strike on their own and create.
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killing a member of the military and there are plenty of military personnel walking around in uniform. everybody needs to be vigilant when we are dealing with isis and lone wolves associated with them. we are dealing with a didn't environment than we were a short time ago. martha: it's chilling to think about these situations. we saw that horrible killing on the streets of london. but as you point out, this is a two-way street. the more they do this the more we can potentially find out who and where they are. >> that's exactly right. i'm sure law enforcement and intelligence are all over this. law enforcement and intelligence ought to be creating their own postings out there to put them out on facebook to try and attract isis people put something false out there and make it look big and dramatic so you get isis try to respond to it and that's creates links to
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people affiliated with isis. smash this fellows website. martha: the details catherine herridge reported are chilling. colonel, thank you very much. we'll see you soon. bill: the u.s. supreme court, justice anthony kennedy temporarily blocked an appeals court ruling that declared gay marriage legal in the states of nevada and idaho. kennedy's order requested a response from idaho by thursday tomorrow. the 9th circuit court of appeals declared gay marriage legal in idaho and nevada a day after the u.s. supreme court effectively legalized same-sex
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marriage in washington, d.c. and 30 other states. why would democrats in a tight race to control the senate keep their distance from president obama? it's happening. chris stirewalt will analyze that question in a moment. martha: joe biden gets a lecture about trying to raise the minimum wage. >> but, i mean, it's tough for the small businesses, too. it's very hard. tag: sooner or later, everyone needs a helping hand,
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caught fallen from the roof. she was about an hour walking around case in the area. she has startled because the homeowner caught her and she felt two stories to the ground. >> bang on the window which scares the living daylights out of the suspect. >> when i saw her, i banged and screamed. martha: good for her. when you have a squirrel on your roof or something, that worked for the burglar. good advice. bill: democrats greatly concerned president obama could him their hopes of taking the senate. more reports of present is getting benched by his own candidates in several states distancing themselves from the president and the white house. how are you, sir, good day to you. colorado, north carolina,
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virginia, arkansas, louisiana. >> it is wholly true. what it is revealing is what is wholly true and also revealing his these are places where if you just dial back up to 30,000 feet and looked down, these are places the president was once cheered especially north carolina, and what we see in this moment his team obama trying to make an argument the president has transformed politics and changed the way things work in america and political life and his party is saying you didn't build that, we did that and we're going to have to do it without you and that is a pretty stark repudiation for the president. bill: we will see whether or not he is right on that one. take us through the what if scenario.
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you find two states very interesting. first tuesday in november. if you get west virginia to the republicans and south dakota the g.o.p., if you give montana the g.o.p. you are at 48. now you find this race in iowa, very compelling. if they turn that from blue to red, if you look at the real clear politics average between republican and the democrat, she now has a bit of an edge, 1.2%, it is that close at the moment on the polling. why do you find it that appealing? >> it helps the fact i was the first presidential nominee contest in the country so there has been a ton of money, a ton of big names, but all of the scrutiny on this race has nudged out a lot of the undecided.
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republican who was prior to a particular ad on a particular hog was unknown in the states reallmoney is a well-known congressman. i have to think the undecided are more likely to go her way that his way. bill: it really began to della bella; ac develop in the last 10 days or so. we really cannot talk about alaska, arkansas anymore but in colorado here is your matchup. 45.2, the incumbent trying to keep his job at 44.6. this thing is razor tight. what is it about colorado that has interested? >> we have the new rule, 45 is the new 50. at 45% or below is likely to
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lose. things have changed, we have sorted the electoral a lot more. if you are under 45 and a well-known incumbent with a famous name, campaigning poorly doing a bad job of it running against challenger who stayed in the race this long under negative attacks on social issues, if that guy is still in the race, i do not like your chances as an incumbent to hold onto your seat, it looks like it would happen to him. bill: interesting. we will talk to you tomorrow. if republicans don't get the pickup in colorado or iowa, you have to go someplace else to get it, maybe alaska, perhaps it is arkansas, and maybe even louisiana. we will see which way that shakes down.
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martha: some of our top stories right now. back in the hospital, 60-year-old said to be suffering from stomach problems, she was at the center of a bitter custody battle. we spoke to her family on "america's newsroom," as you may remember be at they fought her diagnosis to get her home. ana new ap poll shows that is% f football fans say nfl commissioner roger goodell should keep his job. but most fans disapprove of how we handled the recent domestic abuse cases. and the captain of a south korean ferry that sunk killing 300 people says he is sorry for abandoning the passengers. the captain and other crew members are facing homicide charges. bill: new revelations from leon panetta suggest in the white house was not entirely
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truthful about benghazi. he says he needed be told president obama that night, september 11, 2012, that it was an attack carried out by terrorists. o'reilly played a tape from super bowl sunday with the president asking him to respond, watch those clips now. >> did he tell you what a terror attack? >> what he said to me was we have attack on our compound, we don't know yet who is doing it. >> disingenuous? >> , on. >> disingenuous with mark >> he told the president there is an attack going on that terrorists are involved in the attack. >> the audience can make their own determination it was disingenuous. bill: founder of citizens for self-governance. good morning to both of you.
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i want to get their debate on this it is semantics or more to it. the timeframe they were discussing in that clip and then the sunday talking points in a moment, but the timeframe is about 12, 14, 20 hours. this is change things basin his response? >> i think it changed things in that we have definitely gone to the heart of the situation room. you have leon panetta say he told the president these were terrorists arming the attack, we now have definitive answer the president was lying when he told the american people that had something to do with a video. bill: did you hear it the same way? >> i think what he was saying was there was disagreement and he should go on to say while he thought was a terror attack on the way the attack was carried
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out, there was some disagreement and when they came out and said it was not a terror attack, he believed the information came from the cia. that is why there are many advisors. bill: i am not sure it was that clear. >> what i just heard, leon panetta was very clear. bill: jessica, go. >> there is always disagreement within a cabinet. we have seen that in many different administrations especially as this was happening within the first 15, 20 hours of the incident and they were still gathering information. that is part of the issue of what they are discovering now, why they are have any hearings to get to the heart of what happened when and try to figure out what was the information. bill: why do the talking points, not the way they did that sunday morning. listen.
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>> i thought those talking points frankly were not on point. >> subsequently they were wrong. >> my view was kind of weapons that showed up there was no question in my mind. bill: he said the talking points came from the cia. showing he was ticked off at the talking points change the way they were. how does that change this debate now? >> i think it is correct. you have to look at who is telling this story. the democratic loyalists, not some republican guy going after the president, he was there at the heart of the matter. defense secretary say he thought the talking points were wrong, it was terrorism, he told the president it was terrorism. to me it is clear they were sugarcoating it for political reasons for the american people. bill: i thought two of the more revealing moments were panetta said it was a policy decision be made on behalf of the
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administration, and at the very end of the 25, 30 minutes interview he said the president has to decide whether or not he has the will to join the fight. how did that strike you? >> i think it struck me certainly has something that has been voiced within the democratic party and by other people in the cap aunt. that has been the issue right now surrounding all of the moves made regarding isis. hindsight is always 2020. the other point was certainly at the time the president knew one of the forces out, didn't want to make that a larger issue. bill: and did not fight for it either. >> there are differences in opinion between the president and secretary panetta. others that haven't come out and written a book or spoken about it will probably agree with the
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president. that is why there are a cabinet of advisors. with you agree with what he has done or not or the sexiest taken, i don't think there is an intent to d.c.'s, it is how they process information with the decisions they made at the time. bill: quickly. >> i think this administration has clearly shown he doesn't have the will to fight, it has the will to withdraw. the withdrawal was done against the advice of our general, clearly panetta says he didn't have the will to get status of forces at richmond intent to d.c.'s, it is how they in place. it is surgical, likely technical, not an all out fight. it may change. look at the national security issue today in "the new york times," it is not good. jessica, thank you for your time. mark, thank you for your time is well. much appreciated.
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martha: something we expected, there is a directive now for agents at airports to observe travelers for signs of ebola as americans are preparing to enter the danger zone with this disease. the cdc training workers at home to help them fight this deadly disease in west africa. that is the center of it and what needs to be addressed first before we can stop it from spreading other places. live with this story. we don't know what measures they are going to take, but as we pointed out, really stopping it where it lives essentially is the nub of this problem. >> it is, and the sense of concern and urgency is growing. they have designed it to mimic the conditions of the health care workers will encounter going to west africa. plastic buckets labeled biohazard and vomit, they want
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the experience as real-world as possible. this is the first three-day session and what will be weeks and weeks and weeks of training going on as long as there is a need and the need is great. putting through 36 students every week. many of them volunteers are one to west africa for charity foundations. with so many becoming infected, we learned of another one working with united nations, teaching them not only how to deal with patients, but how to keep themselves safe. there is a certain sense of anxiety among many of these students. >> can't quantify how dangerous it is good or can't allow people to protect themselves as best as possible, telling them to imaginary in a situation where every patient is contagious and their environment could infect them too. >> some of the students we watched yesterday are from samaritans first. they had the first cases of ebola brought back to the
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united states for treatment. i asked her why she one to go over. >> i am responsible to be the hand and feet, that is what motivates me. otherwise it does seem crazy, while i take that risk, it makes no sense. >> she told me you have to have a healthy fear, healthy respect for the virus and if you didn't, that would be the problem. martha: these people are angels, truly. really doing amazing things and the family no doubt nervous about them going and we have already seen the results of a couple of people who have gone over and come back with the disease so we hope they are being taught will the take those precautions that will keep them safe. bill: hysteria will pull everybody into it. it seems to take on a new form
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literally by the day, and we will see how this works out whether or not there is paranoia or smart strategy. joe biden goes to california to raise the minimum wage but he ended up getting a lecture from a small business owner. we will play that for you in a moment. martha: the morning sky lit up with the so-called blood moon. more of a pumpkin moon. bill: for october. martha: yeah. use the musical
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martha: vice president joe biden got your full during a campaign event was pushing to raise u.s. minimum wage and said the hike would put a lot of pressure on many american small business owners.
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>> after this it will affect more businesses, does not clear save because after taxes and everything, w we're talking $16. martha: very hard for small businesses to make it. fox news to bitter gerri willis host of ""the willis report"." speaking for many small business owners across the country. >> it is not $7.25 or hour. a lot of tax on top of that. worker's comp., implement
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insurance, disability insurance, the numbers climb from there. what we know is these can be deployed 52% of americans, half of the workforce rely on small businesses to employ them. they are already trying to fight their way through this economy and now the government wants to put another tax on them. higher minimum wages. >> i'm in favor of doing something like wage subsidies or earned income tax. that doesn't penalize small businesses while also lifting wages. small business men are exactly right. with these kind of laws do is they help big corporations and the help big labor unions at the expense of the little guy. lot of cost little guy cannot bear. i can be passed on to consumer by walmart or coca-cola. the political point of this is
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raising the minimum wage to get republicans to vote against raising the minimum wage is a cultural wedge issue an not abot smart economics. martha: the unions use the $10.10 as a base level going into their own contractual negotiations and it moves a lot of the wages a lot higher. everybody would like everybody to make more money but what happens at small businesses is they don't hire more people because they have to pay more people to higher wage, they have to find a way to hire fewer people in the end. >> martha, you couldn't be more right. this is not a real issue be at 3.6 million american workers make minimum wage, 2.5% of the total. a third of those are teenagers. this is getting to know you, how to get to work on time, dress appropriately and do the right thing. this is an something a large
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proportion is working on, it is a tiny portion be at we should be paying attention to the broad middle class under duress seeing income go lower. what we need is a stronger economy employing everybody to provide higher income across the board. martha: he tapped into something else, regulation and taxes and the expenses that are mounting and mounting american businesses and the reason you don't see growing the refraction of american businesses. quickly if you can. >> a long history of big corporations don't mind relations because they serve as a barrier entry through competition and freeze out the little guy and help expand their bottom line. you should have a much for your economic environment. bill: how are you, eric? eric: those isis terrorists top in the news.
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reports of street gu gunbattlesd coalition airstrikes. can they stop and expected isis massacre their? violent protest in turkey leaves multiple people dead. the very latest on the ground and examine what president obama former top aides are turning on him. and midterm madness or anger driving the election. all that in 10 minutes. bill: say good night. nasa would like to put astronauts in a deep sleep. is this the way we get to mars? good question. ♪
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bill: him is complete put in sleep waking up months later on the planet mars. nasa working on projects to put astronauts in eight deep sleep. he is a volunteer. nice to see you. they have done it before at a much smaller scale. what is the effect on the human body? >> if you cool the body, evidence close down. take it down five, 10 degrees all of your metabolism slows. thhis use of the treatment for heart attack or stroke or head trauma because it is giving getg doctors more time. it works, it does work, so far the long as anybody has been slowed down has been about two weeks. to get to mars you're talking something like six to nine
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months. bill: why they even think it is necessary, what would it do for the mission? >> writes now it takes six to nine months to get to mars. there are two things you can do to make it better. speed up the rocket or slow down the astronauts. this is your to slow down the astronauts. put them in a deep sleep, less food, less water, less air, psychological stress is a lot less. you make the trip seem much shorter for them and smaller spaceship, it is a lot simpler and a lot cheaper. bill: and it will weigh less because you don't have to support human life. ultimately, do you have any clue what happens to a human body after they have been in stasis for six months? >> the short answer is no.
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nobody has attempted anything like this, says will start a series of medical experiments and some basic questions like we know being inactive in space you lose bone density, so what if you're not only inactive but also asleep. there are big questions about this but also big payoffs. possibly not just going to the surface, but a deeper hibernation. people are working on it. bill: we will see if it works, thank you for explaining that. we're kind of in stasis everyday, aren't we? martha: what can we say, in and out of here, right? isis militants on the verge of taking a crucial syrian border town. a live report coming in from the front line on this story, and we will be right back. turn the trips you have to take, into one you'll never forget.
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martha: here comes the blood moon appearing in the skies overnight. part of a total lunar eclipse. causing this red hugh. i will try to get a look at it tonight. bill: you called it pumpkin, i like that. martha: it looks like a pumpkin. goodbye, everyone. ♪ eric: the battle to save the body from the terrorists and a dramatic appeal as isis is closing in. shannon: despite a wave of us-led airstrikes bombing isis positions today, the terror group now has this town yards for the turkish borders rounded. kurdish fighters holding ground driving isis on with heavy gunfire today. as human rights groups called the world to save the town for slaughter saying it represents a clear form of visitation and ethnic cleansing.


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