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that's it for us. i have a cold, i'm sorry. "special report" is next. and we'll be back here tomorrow. for the second day in a row, a president under fire, opens his late afternoon cabinet meeting to reporters and cameras. the topic? ebola. and what the administration is and is not yet doing to stem the possibility of more cases coming into the country. or being transmitted here. this is "special report." good evening. i'm bret baier. the sense of urgency and fear over a disease that has so far killed exactly one person on american soil. but it is the potential from the deadly ebola virus that has the public, the media, and lawmakers
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from both parties demanding that hospitals, doctors, bureaucrats and president obama do better. now, we have fox team coverage. correspondent in dallas, where a second patient is being moved away from a facility whose leadership today admitted major mistakes. we begin with chief white house correspondent, ed henry, and a president who is facing a possible criticism from congress. >> reporter: late in the evening at the white house, on ebola, the president gathering with the cdc director dr. thomas frieden, and chief of staff. we're expecting comments from the president any moment to try once again to calm the public, after yet another day where there were more questions raised about whether the government really has a handle on this. while cdc director thomas frieden was in the hot seat on
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capitol hill, he left the door open to more health care workers infected with ebola. >> we hope no more will, but we know that's a possibility, since two individuals became infected. >> reporter: president obama was also taking fire, for a slow response to the crisis. even from a democratic congressman, campaigning for the u.s. senate, who just appeared with first lady michelle obama last friday. >> i'm greatly concerned that the administration did not act fast enough in responding in texas. we need to look at all the options available to keep our families safe and move quickly and responsibly to make any necessary changes. >> reporter: the president continues to reject such a travel ban that a growing number of democrats, including his former press secretary jay carney, are now advocating. for the second straight day, the president canceled a fund-raiser to pin down meetings on ebola. saying the republicans cannot help noting, three weeks before a critical midterm election. >> i was likewise glad to see the president get off the campaign trail yesterday to
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focus on the crisis. people are scared. we need all hands on deck. >> reporter: white house officials continue to stress they believe the vast majority of the public is safe. he said the president is deadly serious about staying on top of it. >> what you are seeing is the kind of tenacious response that the american people are counting on. and there have been shortcomings that have been identified. there have also been responses to the shortcomings to try to close those gaps. >> reporter: many of the short comings, the second nurse infected with ebola, was able to take a flight from cleveland to dallas. there are conflicting reports whether she was fully forthcoming with the cdc about her symptoms. frieden today did not clear it up. >> did she in fact call the cdc for guidance on boarding a commercial flight? >> i understand she contacted cdc and we discussed her report of symptoms as well as other evaluation. >> reporter: white house officials who have repeatedly expressed full confidence in frieden today pointed the finger at him. >> we've seen this with other
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stories. somebody dropped the ball. we fumbled. and a person is not held accountable. who's responsible for these shortcomings you're talking about? >> reporter: you' . >> you've seen in a couple of instances, the cdc not performing up to expectations. at the same time the cdc is focused on the situation since march. >> reporter: on the eve of that midterm election, the public presses the president himself to take more responsibility. noticing a tendency to make promises the white house can't keep. >> part of the president's problem of going too far, you know, drawing red lines and making very, very generalized statements, where it appears as if he doesn't have all the facts. >> reporter: a prime example, look at this not so subtle shift from what the president said a month ago, to what his press secretary said today. >> our experts in the cdc and across the government agree that the chances of an ebola outbreak here in the united states are extremely low. >> we continue to believe that
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the risk of a widespread outbreak in the united states is exceedingly low. >> reporter: more pressure from the president tonight from tim ryan saying that it's time for at least a temporary ban on visas of ebola affected countries in africa. interesting he's from ohio where the second nurse visited. a lot of fears there tonight. but it's also a plan that's being pushed by republican ed royce. he has a lot of power, because he's the chairman of the house foreign affairs committee. he's also calling for a temporary visa ban as well, bret. >> obviously that would deal with the same thing. the flights would. ed, i understand late today, the president issued an executive order to deal with this crisis. but his critics are suggesting it might be kind of more for show. >> reporter: sure. because it's an order that is calling up reservists and saying, we're going to speed up deployment to get troops to western africa to deal with this crisis at the source. the issue is, that the president
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already authorized 39 -- up to 3900 u.s. troops to go to western africa to deal with this. this is not exactly new u.s. troops going. but what they are trying to do here is at least speed them up to get it going. >> okay. ed henry, we'll head back to you for any breaking details. thank you. hospital officials in dallas are admitting they made serious mistakes in dealing with the first ebola patient to be diagnosed here in the u.s. alicia is in dallas again tonight. >> reporter: underprepared and under fire. the botched treatment of the first ebola fatality in the u.s. admitted failure. >> we made mistakes. we did not correctly diagnose his symptoms as ebolaened we are deeply sorry. >> reporter: the handling of thomas duncan is what set the chain of events in motion. after duncan's death, they will move nina fan from a hospital to a biocontainment unit at the
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national institutes of health. for a third day in a row nurses unions waved a red flag. >> what happened in texas example of the missteps, what we have to fix. >> reporter: new questions also swirl over yesterday's movement of nurse amber vincent, because of the man seen here, in close proximity to vincent minus a hazmat suit. the airline said he was the medical safety coordinator and was on the noisy ramp to ensure protection. he followed all protocols. as the decontamination of vincent's dallas home continued, other communities are taking precautions. outside of cleveland where vincent had flown, the akron school district closed its doors until next week, after learning a parent had contact with her. >> this is a precaution. you know, that we're doing to try to let this settle down. let additional information get out in the community. >> reporter: meanwhile, a new screening process began at newark, atlanta, chicago and
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washington's dulles airport. ensuring travelers from west africa are cleared of ebola before entering the u.s. and right now, we have a look just outside texas presbyterian, where authorities are getting ready to transfer a nurse. we have a producer just outside the door who says that there are fellow nurses standing out there, bret, that have signs that say, we are with you. >> alicia kuna, thank you. the head of the transportation security administration is quitting. ahead of the tsa. the agency says john is expected to be named to a position in academia early next year. he's run the tsa for an hour and a half years, and he will stay through the end of this year. after a roller coaster for the past three days, the dow was down for a sixth day in a row. the wall street avoided any major carnage on the trading floor today. the dow lost 24 1/2.
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the s&p 500 gained a fraction. the nasdaq was up two. up next, why president obama is the focus of the midterm election, even though help's no on the ballot. fox 13 in salt lake city, utah, last night's olympus high school football game was dedicated to the mother of one of the players. sandra lermer lost her battle to breast cancer last month. her son's a sophomore on that team. donations were collected from spectators to go to cancer research. fox 7 in austin, texas, where several abortion clinics are reopening following a decision by the supreme court blocking key parts of the state's abortion law. all but eight clinics in the state had closed because of upgrade requirements. and this is a live look at seattle from q-13 fox. our affiliate out there. the big story out there, a man goes on a shooting spree against police in three area towns. a 43-year-old granite falls man shot up police stations and cars with a high-capacity rifle. he was eventually shot and taken into custody.
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nationwide who matched this criteria. all 11 were medically screened and found to be free of the ebola symptoms so far. they said out of an abun dance of caution, they placed them into medical housing until the 21-day incubation period passes. we are now 19 days away from the midterm elections. one race we've been following is getting much tighter. republican david perdue's lead on michelle nunn in georgia is down to a little more than 1 percentage point in the average of recent polls. there's been recent polls down there showing nunn up in the traditionally red state of georgia. part two this evening in our look at campaign spending over the final three weeks leading up to the midterms, tonight chief national correspondent jim engle how all local politics is about president obama. >> reporter: according to the latest numbers, this will be another record year in terms of
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political fund-raising and sp d spending, much of it on tv ads. >> it's approaching $1 billion cycle to date. >> reporter: ads of all kinds, one of which got more than 600,000 hits on youtube. ♪ just one of an avalanche of political ads. >> overall, ads have run more than 1 million times in senate and state level races. >> there have been over 700,000 ads aired in u.s. senate races. over the last two weeks, democrats are ahead slightly in airings. they've aired over 58,000 airings compared to roughly 53,000 for the republicans. >> reporter: republican ads, which already targeted the obama record, intensified after the president said all his policies were on the ballot.
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>> i think there was a little nashing of teeth in many democratic campaign headquarters. >> what you see is increasingly more of these ads are being run as sort of a national referendum. >> reporter: a referendum on the president and his policies, prompting democrats to talk as if they've consistently opposed him on key issues. >> i'm not barack obama. i disagreed with him on guns, coal and the epa. >> reporter: she repeatedly refused to say if she even voted for obama. one of many democrats who clearly distanced themselves from the president and his policies. >> when she took on the president to approve the keystone pipeline -- >> it means high paying jobs for louisiana. >> he voted against obama's trillion dollar tax increase. >> reporter: meanwhile this ad with the supporter of tom tillas in north carolina tries to make hagan's connection to obama as tight as possible. >> it makes me so mad to see the president's weakness has allowed
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the islamic state to grow. senator hagan goes right along with him. >> reporter: one ad showed a huge percentage of republican ads focused on one of the most unpopular programs, obamacare. >> one-third of all the ads mentioned obama. and predominantly, these ads have attacked president obama and his signature health care plan. >> he promised if you liked your plan, you can keep it. if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. >> reporter: democrats avoid the topic as much as possible. >> every time that you hear a republican candidate mentioning and attacking president obama's health care plan, you hear pretty much crickets on the side of the democrats. >> reporter: in an effort to change the subject, democrats are running the more negative ads of the campaign, primarily tearing down their republican opponents. >> in the last two weeks, about 43% of the ads have been pure negative. 7 in 10 are negative and/or
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contrasted. democrats are slightly more negative at the moment than republicans are. >> reporter: the liberal groups shown here appeared to outnumber the conservative groups almost three to one. >> interest groups airing can be one way to shield the candidates from the backlash that would occur from airing negativity. >> reporter: one thing for sure, anyone with a television can hardly escape the scuffle, if they don't vote, it won't be because they didn't know that an election was coming. bret? >> jim, thanks. still ahead, one of those senate races that could decide which party is in the majority in the u.s. senate next year. we'll go live to new hampshire. first, why the obama administration is considering a move that could infuriate one of its closest allies. ah! come on!
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u.s. central command says the u.s. carried out 14 air strikes against isis targets in kobani, syria, today. that brings it to a total of 53. we're awaiting on a possible deal that would allow u.s. forces to launch unmanned air strikes from their base inuéj
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isis in kobani.% the actions of the turkish president, a nato ally, have puzzled some in washington, coming to ask whether it is time to take the pkk off the terror list since they're helping syria's kurds fight the islamic state. >> here's a question they're asking. is the juice worth the squeeze? what are we getting out of keeping them on the list? right now, they're trying to aid the poid, from what i hear, trying to aid the poid inside kobani. >> reporter: the state department identified the pkk as a terror organization in 1997. even though it never carried out a terror attacks against the united states. homeland security secretary jay johnson said as much when he pushed back on allegations isis fighters had crossed the texas border. here's how he described the four individuals who claimed to be members of the pkk, the kurdish
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workers party. >> their supposed link to terrorism was thoroughly investigated and checked. in the end, amounted to a claim by the individuals themselves that they were members of the kurdish workers party, an organization that is actually fighting against isil. >> reporter: the state department said its position on the pkk has not changed. >> we have the same concerns we've had for a long time about the pkk. there's no change to our position on listing them as a terrorist organization. >> reporter: the pkk has been fighting turk irk authorities for recognition for decades. the 30 million kurds are the largest stateless people in the world and make up 20% of turkey's population. the turks have brutally suppressed the kurds and the pkk is accused of killing 30,000 turks as part of that fight. but the pkk has never targeted americans, and now the u.s. needs kurds on the ground in syria to push back isis. the state department revealed today it held direct talks with the syrian kurds for the first
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time this weekend in paris. bret? >> jennifer griffin live at the pentagon. thank you sglfrgts . it's thursday. send a question for george will, ron williams or charles krauthammer on either foreign policy or the ebola response, at me, @bretbaier. one of the most vocal on the united nations security council. venezuela is seen by many as a puppet for cuba, and has ties to syria and iran. other new members on the 15-seat panel are new zealand, angola and malaysia. spain defeated turkey for the final spot. iran is said to be considering a u.s. proposal that would allow it to keep more of its nuclear power infrastructure. diplomats say the offer would allow more sent tri fujs if they cut the stockpile of uranium that can be turned to weapons use with further enrichment.
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the political grapevine. there's a good chance you heard about last night's florida debate dubbed fangate. >> governor crist has asked to
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have a fan, a small fan placed underneath his podium. the rules of the debate that i was shown by the scott campaign say that there should be no fan. i am told governor scott -- >> really? >> -- will not join us for this debate. >> after seven painfully awkward minutes on live television, rick scott took the stage, and the debate began. today we learned the back story. the debate officials say former governor charlie crist's camp wanted to use a fan. if it was too hot on stage. temperature checks prior to that debate read 66 degrees under the lights. but crist aides placed the fan under his desk anyway. debate officials insist governor scott never refused to participate, and was awaiting clarification on the rules when crist took the stage without him. they are apologizing, saying they, quote, did not anticipate
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or plan for the possibility that a candidate would not honor the debate rules. crist is known to bring his fan with him frequently. in fact, at almost every speaking event. hillary clinton, who earlier this year, you may remember, complained of being dead broke after leaving the white house with her husband, is once again facing criticism over money. clinton was paid $225,000 to speak at a university of nevada las vegas foundation dinner. the topic? making college more affordable. she told the crowd, quote, higher education shouldn't be a privilege for those able to afford it. students protested the speaking fee, asking the university to instead spend the money on scholarships. tuition is set to go up there 17% over the next four years. the university said the amount of money raised at the dinner more than covered clinton's fee. finally, the nanny state comes to the baltimore marathon. race officials are telling
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spectators what they should and should not say to the runners. apparently to spare their delicate feels as they push their bodies through that grueling 26-mile race, that relatively few humans even attempt. among the tips, a list of phrases to call out, such as way to run, looking strong, and enjoy baltimore. also, a black list of what not to say. quote, unless you are at the stadium near the finish line, please, do not cheer almost there, not far to go, et cetera. after running 26 miles, almost there is a few hundred feet from the finish line. so if you attend this weekend's race, be gentle. tonight election headquarters, another down-to-the wire senate race that could flip the balance of power in the u.s. senate. molly is in new hampshire tonight.
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>> o-b-a-m-a. >> reporter: it may be one of the most acrimonious races in the country, between incumbent democrat shaheen, and scott brown. >> what's scott brown's record? >> reporter: voters have been besieged with negative ads. >> i urged him to take the people's pledge he came up with when he was representing massachusetts. he and elizabeth warren agreed to a people-pledge that really shut down third-party money in the massachusetts senate race, that reduced the number of negative ads. >> reporter: senator shaheen is in the fight of her political career and hasn't shied away from her own hard-hitting commercials. >> the real scott brown? this guy. >> reporter: the most recent poll shows the race in a virtual debt heed. she rarely maces an opportunity to link the opponent to his one time home state.
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>> it goes from the president to harry reid, down to jean shaheen. >> reporter: he puts on big campaign events with big names. and he bristles at the suggestion he's gone negative. >> i have not run negative ads. i stand behind my messages. i am going to draw distinctions, and i hope that the people of new hampshire understand that we can talk about our records, because we served together. >> reporter: a record he's only too happy to point out in his own ads. >> is the president right 99% of the time? >> nobody's right 99% of the time. >> reporter: with less than three weeks until election day, some believe negativity could be the key to a hard-fought victory. >> it's the proper tactic to take. it's unpopular thing, but negative ads are designed to keep the opposing party's voter home. >> just as senator brown welcomed mitt romney to new
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would there possibly be any kind of trigger or threshold that would make you reconsider your views on flight restrictions? >> we're not considering a travel ban at this point. does that mean it could change? i suppose it does. based on the circumstances we know now, it's not something we're considering. >> why are we still allowing folks to come over here, and once they're over here there's no quarantine? >> our fundamental mission is to protect americans. right now, we're able to track everyone who comes in. >> but you're not stopping them from being around other people, doctor.
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i understand that. i have high respect for you. but even so, they're not limited from travel. they're not quarantined for 21 days. >> the administration says it may consider banning those flights from those affected countries, hot zones if you will. tom frieden, the cdc director, and others up on capitol hill, in the hot seat today. also said there may be more health care workers becoming infected with ebola. with that, let's bring in our panel. syndicated columnist george will, juan williams, and charles krauthammer. charles, what about this hearing today? what we learned from it, what we didn't? and, you know, as we see in many hearings, was a lot of this for back-and-forth show? >> what we learned is that they are still slow. in coming to these conclusions. we just heard from the head of the cdc that we track all visitors coming in. we couldn't even track a nurse who treated mr. duncan all the way to cleveland.
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and we're going to be assured that those coming in here are going to be tracked for three weeks? you check his temperature and it's negative. there's still three weeks in which he can develop symptoms. we actually know where he is, who he's talking to, and if he gets sick, we have to retrace the people he's in contact with? this is absurd. we get a couple more cases of people who come in ebola, like mr. duncan, and i absolutely assure you we're going to have a travel ban. they were late on deciding that you don't treat ebola patients in the local hospital. which was absurd from day one. the two patients in dallas now have now been transferred. the president announced a policy that it is over, if somebody develops ebola, we're not going to have them treated in a local hospital. they don't have the training. they don't have the expertise. cdc says it will fly in a s.w.a.t. team. you don't need a s.w.a.t. team, you need an airplane to take the
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patient away to atlanta or bethesda or omaha. >> in fact, from dallas, that's going to happen, to baltimore. >> weeks late and after it's already spread. >> steve types in this question. can anyone explain the cdc no-flight ban, if you stop people there from traveling, it will be worse for us here. can you explain the explanation that the cdc gives for not banning the flights? i think is better. >> and it goes beyond the cdc. here you have i think almost a unanimous sentiment in the medical community, that if you isolate those west african countries, you will incite to some degree of panic and isolation. and there are people who are there, even if you send in charters as some suggested with medical equipment and the like, who will then flee. it will be harder to track those individuals.
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and given the realities of global travel, there's more likelihood that then people who are not identified, not being properly treated, not tracked, get into the general population, whether it's in europe, or here in the united states. >> and then same goes, you think, for the visa ban from those affected countries? >> it would be the same thing basically. it's a travel ban. >> george? >> well, there's a pattern here as charles talks about being late. first, the president denies something, and then there's a very late and inadequate response. isis, whatever we're calling it, the islamic state is the jv, and then all of a it's a menace that we have to destroy. now they have the president having a few weeks ago saying there will be no outbreak of ebola in our country. now no widespread outbreak. >> tom frieden said large outbreak. there won't be a large outbreak.
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>> yes, exactly. there's another minuet going on in washington. whenever a federal agency has difficulty performing its function, that is the reason why it should be rewarded with more money. the irs targets conservative groups, and they say, just a short-cut. because we didn't have enough money to properly screen these people. the veterans administration produces a scandal, and they say that's because of congressional parseny. and they say it's the budget cuts from the republicans that have done this. the cdc now at the white house saying, there's a problem with the budget cuts. finally there's the question of trust us. the president keeps saying, trust us. it's a little late in the game to do that. the president is saying trust us, is the one who said an internet video caused the benghazi attack. the president says, trust us, there's not a smidgen of corruption in the irs. the president has said if you like your health care plan, you
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can keep it. it gets late in the game to try and her medically seal one portion of the government that the people are going to trust. >> as you point out, looking live at dallas, dallas presbyterian hospital. a nurse is set to be moved to nih. these people are outside to cheer her on, we're told. speaking of the nurses there on the ground, one of the nurses talked about the training they received before mr. duncan got there. she was on the "today" show this morning. >> in the second week, the only gear they were offering at that time, and up until that time, is gear that is allowing our necks to be uncovered. i just thought i'd ask several infectious disease nurses, i asked the cdc, why would i be wearing two pairs of gloves,
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three pairs of booties, a plastic suit covering my entire body, and then leave my neck hanging out, this much? so that it can -- something can potentially go close to mymouth or nose. >> charles, you hear these nurses speak out. and you hear the unions talk about the lack of training, across the country. it is pretty stark. >> it is really scary. imagine if you're a nurse, imagine if you're involved in the treatment. but imagine if you're a member of the general public. you're told that this -- we -- remember what frieden said in the beginning, we have the protocols. we've done this before. sure, there are protocols. but unless you train them, unless you have drills, unless you've done this over and over again, as only a few specialized facilities have done, you really screw it up. at the beginning, which is understandable. so these people at this hospital in texas were doing it for the
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first time, and they did it terribly wrong. exposing all kinds of people. they are playing by the rules of normal infectious diseases, and the rules aren't normal here. this is a pathogen which kills 70% of those who get it. you know, and let me give you one example of not changing the rules. they withheld the name of the first nurse who got this for a day. why in god's name? yes, i understand the privacy issue. but if you say the way to control this is by having the contacts contacted, the fastest way to alert anybody who was in contact with her is to give out her name. and yet for a day, they withheld it. on the grounds of, in normal times, of privacy. we have to suspend the normal times. and treat this as a real danger, even though it's not widespread. it is lethal if caught. >> i want to play this back from the hearing. this is about the second nurse.
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and that she gets on this plane. the frontier airlines plane. >> on october 13th, amber vincent who was self-monitoring, she presented with a fever and was told by your agency she could board the plane, is that right? i just have one more question. >> that is my understanding. >> now, your protocol -- >> i need to correct that. i have not reviewed exactly what was said. but she did contact our agency, and she did board the plane. >> and she said she was told to board the plane. >> it goes on to say people in controlled movements should not board commercial airlines, but while she was self-monitoring, she had a fever of 99.5, and their threshold is 104. this is something. she gets on the plane and calls the cdc, i have a fever, i was dealing with thomas duncan. i was one of the nurses. they say, go ahead, get on the plane. >> they had a threshold and it didn't pass the threshold. they set a standard. again, i think it was an error.
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and there's so many errors, the thing is now we've entered the center of politics. that's what happened today with the hearings on capitol hill. you get the republicans piling on, george gave us a taste of it here tonight. here's every error that's ever been made, and this is confirmation of every -- but then you have the texas health officials saying, you know what, at presbyterian hospital, we made mistakes. we made bad mistakes. the government -- the federal government did send in fact training information with regard to how to handle ebola. they did not send any person other people or team in there to do the training. but we had the information. some of this is our failure. taking some responsibility. frieden trying to take some responsibility. but again, time and again now, it's become political. >> this is the nurse leaving. as you see there, her co-workers cheering her on. she is being transferred to nih in baltimore. we'll take this shot heading to
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it lets you switch seamlessly from your desk phone to your mobile with no interruptions. i've never felt so alive. get the future of phone and the phones are free. comcast business. built for business. fox news alert. you're looking live on the left side of your screen. the nurse nina pham is being transferred from dallas to nia. i was mistaken when i said baltimore. it's in bethesda, of course. and on the right side, the white house, where the pool of reporters and cameras set to go into the meeting between the president and his advied advise. the topic, of course, ebola. still waiting to head in. george, what about all the people who say there's too much being made of this? this is one case. one person has died.
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two nurses treating that one person contracted this disease, and for all of this attention, it is over the top. >> well, we'll find out and let's hope it is over the top. but there seems to be unsettled portion of the science involved in this. how hard it is to catch ebola. how many people are coming in, all the rest. remember, 40% of the illegal immigrants in this country overstayed their visas. they didn't cross the rio grande they landed at airports with visas and disappeared into the country. and so the idea that we have this located in west africa, extremely lethal virus, and that we can track this, people are understandably anxious. play p particularly at a time with a cascading series of failures raising americans' normal skepticism about government. >> and they said they went there
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all their detainees. none of them were symptommatic. they are holding them in medical housing for the 21-day period. there's a lot of things that are happening that -- >> well, that seems a reasonable response. i don't think a great threat right now is it coming from latin america. it's coming into airports. when you hear the cdc say at the beginning we know what to do, and then you hear the horror story of what happened in the real hospital where the virus was caught by two people, and we had been told we know how to stop this, then you have to have skepticism. >> i think, you know, it's a matter of having the public's state shaken in terms of cdc response. they were so unequivocal that they knew how to handle this and they trusted the hospital in texas. now we learn there was reason not to trust them. that introduces anxiety. but it's important not to get involved in the panic game.
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>> one last thing with panel after this quick break. and it's raising eyebrows at the united nations. stay tuned.
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visit today. you may remember back in 2006, the late hugo chavez calling president george w. bush the devil from the united nations. today venezuela is on the u.n. security council. back with the panel. george, how about that? >> well, the u.n. security council. the permanent membership is a snapshot of 1945, the united states, china and russia. why are britain and france there and india and brazil not? so the idea itself is frankly ridiculous. if we take it seriously, it doesn't matter who is on, we're going to be in trouble. and if we don't take it seriously, it doesn't matter very much. >> get ready for fireworks tonight. remember, the current president just recently kicked out three american diplomats.
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>> shows you how much it has clapd collapsed. latin american countries chose this country to be their representative on the security council. fair, balanced and unafraid. thanks for having us in. this is a fox news alert. at any minute now the first dallas nurse infected with ebola will be taking off headed to the national institute of health. you're looking at live pictures of the ambulance taking nina pham, the nurse, to the airport. pham will not be traveling by commercial airline, but if a private jet. she's being moved to mih, one of four u.s. hospitals with a special bio containment unit. meanwhile, the second victim remains in isolation at emery university hospital. tonight we're getting new information about the people who had contact with nurse vincent during her trip to ohio. in just minutes


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