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american diplomats. >> shows you how much it has clapd collapsed. latin american countries chose this country to be their representative on the security council. fair, balanced and unafraid. thanks for having us in. this is a fox news alert. at any minute now the first dallas nurse infected with ebola will be taking off headed to the national institute of health. you're looking at live pictures of the ambulance taking nina pham, the nurse, to the airport. pham will not be traveling by commercial airline, but if a private jet. she's being moved to mih, one of four u.s. hospitals with a special bio containment unit. meanwhile, the second victim remains in isolation at emery university hospital. tonight we're getting new information about the people who had contact with nurse vincent during her trip to ohio. in just minutes you're going
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inside a lab trying to wipe out ebola. the walter reed army student of research. they just started testing bo ii vaccine on humans. who volunteers for that test? you're about to find out. first, live team coverage of all the ebola development from be thet sa to atlanta to dallas. we begin with rickbook live in be thes da. it would be a two or three hour flight from dallas to mih, right? >> reporter: that's right, yeah. she's going to arrive from frederick, maryland. that's about 30 miles up the street from where i'm standing now. at this point she'll be escorted to this building behind me. this is a specialized clinical study unit. she's going to go inside this d to, in fact, greta, a lot of infectious diseases. she'll be taken inside of an isolation unit. there are staff member who is
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are there right now. i just talked to a public information person. they indicate the entire staff in her wing are in place right now and ready to begin her treatment as soon as she arrives tonight. i asked them whether or not this hospital will stay in operation during that time. they said absolutely. she'll be taken to a particular wing, and this will not interrupt any operations here at this particular hospital. but as for the media, we're told to get out of here. this is probably i can be the last time i can talk at this location. they're telling us to leave in 20 or 30 minutes, to clear for her arrival. yeah, they are prepared for her arrival. they understand she is leaving dallas as we speak, in just a few moments. she's supposed to be treated, by the way, that starts possibly tonight at 4:00. experimental treatments may start as well on her. greta? >> rick, thank you. and i guess get out of there in 30 or 30. thank you, rick. and the second nurse battling ebola is in isolation at emery
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university hospital. while she fights for her life, the cdc is fighting criticism over why amber vincent was allowed to board a plane. jonathan. >> good evening, greta. for now emery university is releasing no information on amber vincent's condition, citing patient confidentiality laws and regulations. when you look at the video of vincent arriving in atlanta, she's seen walking on her own power, suggesting she's beginning her treatment in the early stages of the disease. this is important. public officials say early treatment appears to produce better outcomes in ebola patients. emery runs one of the nation's four special isolation units to treat patients with serious infectious diseases. you're likely to see local hospitals transfer future ebola patients to these units instead of trying to treat them on
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location after seeing the two nurses at a respected dallas hospital wearing full protection could still become infected. nurse vincent reportedly informed the cdc she had a low grade fever of 99.5 degrees before an agency official cleared her to board a commercial flight monday to return from a wedding planning trip in ohio. she reported no other symptoms to this the cdc. however, a federal source tells fox news' john roberts vincent told family members she had to cancel several ooents with her bridesmaids because she wasn't feeling well. greta? >> oh, brother. that's a new twist to it. jonathan, do you know why the other nurse is headed to nih? who will be on the air? do you know why she didn't go to emery? >> well. >> these are two of the four biocontainment units they have scattered around the country. i don't know why officials made
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the decision to send her to any one particular of these four containment units, but we are told it was done in consultation with hospital officials in dallas as well as federal officials consulting with them from the cdc and also consulting with the patient herself, greta. >> extra demand they didn't need on the emery people to have both in one place. jonathan, thank you. >> and nurse vincent's commercial flight from dallas to ohio adding to the fears of ebola spreading. today schools in tbs and ohio closing as a precaution. people are scared. right now an ambulance taking nurse nina pham to the airport from her flight, that's a live picture. fox news correspondent lisa kuna is live in dallas with the latest. alicia? >> reporter: hi, greta. yes. there were several nurses standing outside as she was leaving the facility with signs that said we are with you. with regard to the school shut down, these are temporary in both ohio and texas. and it all goes back to this
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commercial flight that amber vincent took the night before she checked herself into the hospital with a fever. some passengers were students who went to schools in the days after. they went to school in bell county, texas, for a couple of days. the classrooms and buses will be disinfected. some parents complain the kids should be quarantined immediately. they say it's going overboard. in ohio, two more schools closed after it was discovered one of the staff members may have been on the same plane that vincent was on. not the same flight, but the same plane that was used after vincent flew. and the child of a woman who had contact with vincent was praised in quarantine with her mother as a precaution. that's in ohio. the plane is now in denver being sanitized. carpet and seat covers being replaced near where vincent sat.
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all 132 passengers have been tracked down and are being monitored. doctors here in texas as well as the cdc have really emphasized that it's not that easy to contract ebola, unless you come into close contact with someone who is in that infectious stage, and you come into contact with their bodily fluids, as these nurses did. greta? >> alicia, thank you. and the first test on humans has just started. and today, we went inside that research lab to find out more about the vaccine being tested on 39 healthy volunteers. >> can you get ebola from the vaccine? >> absolutely not. >> all three of you say no. >> no. >> that's a great sign. how do you know if it's successful? >> well, to know if it's successful or not would require a challenge. that's something we can't do on the individuals. so right now we have preclinical data we're going to use.
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and that's been encouraging. it doesn't necessarily predict what's going to happen with real people. >> i understand this is made in canada originally? >> it's a complicated pedigree. >> 100% successful in animals, right? so far? >> okay. >> but that doesn't necessarily mean for humans. >> right. >> why not? >> well, there's the saying. so mice and ro dents sometimes lie a lot. and monkeys sometimes lie a little less, because they don't always translate to what the human experience is. and so although it can inform decision making and it can help us choose a certain pathway, the only way to truly know what the human experience is going to be and what the response to the vaccine and response to a natural infection will be is to do trials in humans and in places that the disease pandemic
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is circulating. >> which brings me back to my question. if someone goes through the experimental vaccine after some period of time and the person is gone through whatever you have to, how do you know the person is immune from ebola? is there a test you can do on the person? >> so we will get what we call, you know, immune testing. look at antibod theieantibodies. look at how the cells in their body react to the vaccine. we can compare those to the animal studies. we won't be able to say for sure. we'll have a good idea based on reactions and other studies but we really have to compare to either animal studies or studies in an demic areas where people are exposed to these diseases. >> can you be like 80% sure or 90% sure or 50% sure?
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what's a good idea that the person will be? >> that's the million dollar question. it really p depends on what type of vaccine you're working on, what the past experience has been with that vaccine. in this particular case with this particular ebola vaccine, we don't have a test that we know, yes, this predicts a human will be protected against the natural ebola infection. we don't have that available to us. we have to make inferences. and educated getszs about how this is how the person's immune system responded. we think this can be predicted in discussions with fda and the sponsor. it merits going onto the next step or phase of testing. >> could it be you and i both take the vaccine, and it might
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be successful for you and not for me? >> it's possible. >> so it varies from person to person? >> it does. for each individual it boils down to risk and reward. >> why do you pick 39? any reason? >> that's a common number for phase one clinical trial. >> not 40. not 35? >> well, the way this particular trial was constructed we'll tend to get the vaccine in the groups. >> so explain how it happens. this showed up monday, right, to get the vaccine. all 39. some got placebo? >> yeah. we have three dose levels. the study is designed for safety. we want to make sure that the vaccine is safe, and, you know, and that's also the smaller siz of the study, again, safety is priority number one. so we start were a few number of
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individuals, two or three on the first day. see how they do. if they do fine, bring in another few people the next day or two. vaccinate them. watch the first group for approximately a week. if they do fine, we do the rest of the individuals in the host of people. in total 13 people. then we'll get the day to an outside independent committee to review it. the decision is typically fairly quick. if people have tolerated the vaccine well. they'll look at the data and say it's okay to increase a level and start with higher dose level and repeat the process again. >> what is the term of this? how long is this trial peert going to go on for testing vaccines? assuming everything is successful as you go on? a month sflong two months? three months? >> the total study duration is six months to follow people from
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time of vaccination until final follow-up to see how their immune responds. we could potentially, if everything were to go perfectly, inject people within the first, say, approximately two months, but there's always variables in being able to determine that. so two, maybe three months. >> is that standard with a vaccine? is that generally what you run it on? >> you know, it depends on the type of vaccine. it depends on the dosing schedule of the vaccine may be. some you need one dose. some you need two. some you need three. there's typically an early time point and a later time point. >> the three of who have placebos don't know this is done blindly for them. >> no, the investigators are blinded. everyone is blind. >> do you know who it is? >> no. we have a few select people that
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are unblinded that don't interact with the investigative team. but otherwise, both the the investigators and subject are blind as to what they receive. >> side effects of this? they have a sore arm? is it injection? >> it is an injection. it's a live virus. so we would expect side effects like other live viruses. so mild fever, headache, muscle soreness, and injection site soreness. those kinds of things. >> i thought this was not an ebola virus, but a gene. >> it is a virus. it replicates, but a small portion of the virus has been taken out and the ebola gene has been inserted. so when it replicates, it will put a pro teen around the sigh rus and trick the body into thinking it's infected with ebola. >> how is this different than
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the study at nih? >> the construct of the vaccine is different. so this vaccine combines two ingredients, and their vaccine combines one different ingredient. so really the construct is different. the the metds of testing and the safety of plans put in place and types of immune responses we measure are similar. >> now, i was warned do not touch anything in this lab. i can barely move my hands away from my body. if i were to touch this, all three of you said you wouldn't be afraid to do this. but if i put my hand in it, what happened? nothing orsome sng. >> we would not like you to put your hand into it. >> i'm not touching it. like i said, i'm not moving my arms from my body at this point. >> so the focus is on -- given that the focus is safety, and we
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don't know entirely -- can't be entirely sure what the exact safety profile is, we err on the side of safety. wile we think that the vaccine is very safe, the virus is typically not a passage that primarily infects people. and certain steps in the design have been taken to -- what we think we'll do, it will make it a little less pathogenic. a little safer. we can't be entirely sure. we have to treat it if it were the twaul virus. and so what he with do is warn people that again, they should note if they have symptoms of live virus infection. and we'll be asking them if they have virus in the blood from the
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vaccine or if, in their saliva. >> in the event this is the vaccine we're all hoping for, how fast can you reproduce it? >> we're not manufacturing. it's manufactured in germany. but i know there's a group of individuals talking about where it can be ramped up. those as of yet are unknown. >> with zmapp, the experimental drug given to dr. brantly, we don't have it. it takes a while to get it. is this something we can speed up faster? are we talking years? or weeks or months? to do mass produce this? >> i don't think we're talking years. but there are procedures in place to manufacture in a very specific way to make sure it's very safe and pure and accurate in terms of the dosing. so those things take time. and the procedures have to be followed and can't be
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compromised. >> so where do they get volunteers for this vak teen test? you can see the rest of our interview online. and tomorrow night "on the record" takes you inside another lab working to combat ebola. and right now, you are looking at live pictures in dallas. an ambulance taking nurse nina pham to the airport for her light to nih in maryland. and straight ahead, the cdc is tracking dozens of health care workers. that's not all. they're tracking more than 100 airline passengers possiblily exposed to ebola. and there's more. now health officials want to hear from another group of people at risk. find out who they are next. and many of you are asking about bentley. well, you're going to hear how bentley is doing straight from the kind people taking care of him. plus, fan gate. now this is pretty wild. the candidates in the florida governor's race with the most bizarre start to their debate.
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kent brantly in liberia. good to see you. you left when? >> at the beginning of august. >> when you were there, were you treating people for ebola? >> that's correct. >> and you're the ones who gave the injects to dr. brantly? >> that's correct. >> i guess we can all agree you're an expert on this, whether you want to be or not. we read the numbers ofst all these people being quarantined, is this a smart thing? are we overreacting on who we're monitoring? >> so, there are a couple of things that we know about ebola and how it's transmitted. one thing is you can get it by being in direct contact with body fluids. >> how about a sneeze? >> absolutely. absolutely. the one thing we need to remember, though, is when you first start developing systems, your vie rad load is very low. you are contagious.
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you're not as contagious as in the later stages when you're bleeding and producing a lot, and the amount of virus in your blood is a lot higher. so mr. duncan was discharged and admitted to the hospital, and unfortunately the nurses that took care of him in the later stages of his illness were probably more likely to get infected. it's not clear whether or not the quality of infection control measures that were put into place were good enough to actually protect them. however, i think it's really important to, like i said before, to reevaluate our policies. regarding the individuals that were on the same plane as the second nurse that has ebola, i think, it's probably less likely that they're going to get it. if they were not in direct
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contact with her. the probability is probably lower. however, i think, it's better to be safe than sorry. so i don't think it's a bad idea to have them monitor her temperature twice a day and monitor her symptoms. >> we see the numbers from west africa as the number of people who are infected with ebola or have died. i'm just guessing. having traveled in africa those numbers are grossly underestimated because so many people live out in the bush. am i right? you've lived there. are these numbers like grossly understated? >> i agree with youment i think there's a gross undernation of the numbers for several reasons. i think in the beginning we were really tracking the number of patients that were actually seen at health facilities. i don't know if there was surveillance that was done in the communities. people were not going to the health facilities to get treated. they were staying at home, and they died.
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this is a fox news alert. dallas nurse nina pham has just arrived at the airport in dallas. the ambulance doors are now open. pham is ready to board a private jet bound for nih in bethesda. today in washington lawmakers questioned federal health officials about the ebola response. nice to see you. >> good to see you. >> travel ban, you want one? >> i certainly do. >> why? >> we need to stop individuals coming into the country until we get it under control. and restricting the visas, doing a quarantine center there. if you want to exit this hot zone, then you spend 21 days in quarantine before you exit. we're sending our troops over there to build these hospitals. take the first one. do it at the dwarn teen center. do it on our terms.
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>> are you worried about our troops? >> yes, i am. >> it's another issue. >> it is. i questioned dr. frieden on it today, greta. i have 700 troops heading over there. >> nurses are somewhat educated in this long before. they had some idea of the danger. military people may not have tin traying. we need to get them up to speed. >> that's right. and i asked dr. frieden today. are our troops going to be in contact with anybody that has ebola? or is known to have been exposed to ebola, or in one of these controlled surveillance groups? >> and he said? >> he said we were going to rely on the process that we have in place, which is self reporting. so i took out my sheet of paper. i read to him a statement from 2011 where he says patients lie. so this is not a system that is going to be successful.
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and we have to work with them, and they have to work with us to guarantee we're going to keep americans safe. here and abroad. here's nina pham actually walking towards that private plane. that's a good sign that she's walking. so at least she has the strength. not fast, but she's walking. i just talked to dr. mabula, who treated dr. brantly in liberia. i told her i heard everyone flipped out when he got it because he was the most meticulous about it of all people, dr. brantly to get ebola. he said he got it in contact with somebody else. meeting someone some place or doing something. so here we could have our troops. our troops will be in contact with people that they won't be suspicious are part of this universe of sick preem. they don't know who their in contact with. >> that's is right. that's why we are asking for spres fisty from them about how
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to interface with the population there if they contract the disease, how are they going to be treated and handled? how will they be brought back to the u.s. when the troops come back? will they be quarantined here? are we going to kwarn teem them there prior to exit? there are so many question around this. it is upsetting we are taking the troops that maybe need to be securing the southern border. we have this pourous border. that's one of the reasons we can't do a travel ban. maybe we node to be using troops to secure our border and not over there to build hospitals. >> and take a look at this. this is a private plane. so i assume it's equipped to deal with this. but it's interesting to me that she's going to nih. i can't figure out if it's because dallas can't provide the medical care, or the hospital is
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really -- if the staff there is so destabilize d because this i such a horrible incident. >> i think it's a couple of things. we only have a few hospitals. 13 sbeds. we can only afford to have 13. >> that's right. equipped to handle this. plus bear in mind the waste and the disposal of the waste. our clinical labs and hospitals do not have the mechanisms in place to handle the ebola waste. they can no longer incinerate waste on the property. they have to container it, put it on the loading dock, take it through a processing center. >> this is fox news alert. just moments ago president obama speaking about ebola after meeting with his team. coordinating the governor's response. >> give an american people an update on what happened today. everybody remains deeply concerned about the ebola
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situation. i've been working with my team. to address a number of issues that have been raised, boeft publicly as well as at the state and local level. so number one, obviously, our heartfelt concern goes out o the two nurses who have been infected. they courageously treated mr. duncan when he was in dallas. it is typical of what in urss do each and every day caring for us. and one has now been transferred to nih, a national institute of health facilities. the other is now being transferred to emery university. they are going to be given the best possible care. our thoughts and prayers are with them and their families, and we're continuing to monitor their conditions. number two s the second nurse to be diagnosed, as all of you are
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aware, that traveled from dallas to cleveland and back. as a consequence, it's very important for us to make sure that we are monitoring and tracking anyone who was in close proximity to this second nurse. to make sure that their temperatures are being taken and we know that they are receiving the kind of attention that they need to ensure no additional spread of the disease. i spoke to governor kasich in ohio today who was on top of it. we have deployed cdc personnel there to make sure they're getting all the support that they need. and we will continue to work with both them and the airlines, getting the manifests and assuring that we are keeping
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track of anybody in close proximity to the second nurse. number three, we remain focused on the situation in dallas. as i've said before, when we have tight protocols with respect to the treatment of patients, then our health care workers are safe. but because of these two incidents, we know now there may have been problems in terms of how protective gear was worn or removed or the additional treatment procedures may have impacted potential exposure, we don't know yet exactly what happened. but in the meantime, we have a number of health care workers at texas presbyterian who did provide care to mr. duncan, and we are instituting a constant
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monitoring process with them, giving the information they need in order to keep themselves and their families as safe as possible as the period in which they could potentially get the disease, you know, remains in place. and i also spoke to governor ab that dallas and the state of texas have the resources that it needed in order to respond effectively if additional workers are determined, in fact, to have been exposed and have contracteded ebola. and governor kerry as well as mayor rawlings in dallas have been extraordinarily cooperative working with the the cdc and working with health and human services. they have legitimate concerns in terms of making sure that the federal government is serving the kinds of resources they need in order to handle everything there, to make sure that the folks not just at texas
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presbyterian but potentially other health care facilities have the training and the equipment that they need, and so we're going o be working very closely with them over the course of the next several days and weeks in order to ensure they have what they need to get the job done. throughout this process, i've been focused on making sure that we are dealing with this problem at the source. the most important thing in addition to treating and monitoring anybody who even has a hint of potential exposure here in this country, the most important thing that i can do for keeping the american people safe is for us to be able to deal with ebola at the source. where you have a huge outbreak in west africa. and the united states is obviously leading in the way in terms of providing resources, equipment, and mobilizing the world's community, so over the
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last several days i continue to call other world leaders to get them to up their pledges of equipment, of personnel, of logistical capabilities, to make sure that we're getting workers on the ground there. we've seen some progress in liberia and guinea, but we haven't seen enough. we have more work to do. and the good news is increasingly when i talk to the world leaders you're seeing a recognition that the sooner we control this outbreak at the source in west africa, the less our people are going to be at risk. and i think more and more of them are stepping up. although, it's, i think taken a little longer than it should. one issue i want to address because this is a top nick the news is the issue of travel ban.
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i know you've heard from public health experts about this. i want to make sure everybody is clear about the issue. i don't have an objection to a travel ban, if that is the thing that will keep the american people safe. the problem is that in all the discussions i've had thus far with experts in the field, experts in infectious drz is that a travel ban is less effective than the measures that we are currently instituting, that involve screening passengers who are coming from west africa, first of all, screening them before they get on the plane there to see where they're showing signs of the disease. and screening them begun when they get here, taking their temperature, and now what the cdc is doing is gathering all their information, assuming that they're not showing any signs of illness, because if they are showing signs of illness, we want to make sure that they are
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directed to a well equipped and well prepared facility. but if they're not showing any signs, we a still want to have their information, where they live, where they're staying, multiple contact information that not only the federal government keeps, but that will be guarded to the state where they reside. if we institute a travel ban instead of the protocols that we put in place now, history shows that there is a likelihood of increased avoidance. people do not ready disclose their information. they may engage in something called broken travel. essentially breaking up their trip so they can hide the fact that they're going to these countries, and as a result, we may end up getting less information about who has the disease. they're less likely to get
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treeded properly, screened prop properly. and in the consequence we could end up having more cases rather than less. now i continue to push and ask our experts whether in fact we are doing what's adequate in order to protect the american people. if they come back to me and they say that there's additional things we need to do, i assure you, we will do it, but it is important in these circumstances for us to look at the history of how these infectious diseases are best dealt with. it's currently the judgment of those all of those involve that had a flat-out travel plan is not the best way to go. but we will continue to monitor this. i'm asking these questions. if it turns out i'm getting different answers i will share them with the american people. we will not hesitate to do what's necessary in order to maximize the chances of an outbreak in the united states. which brings me to my last
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point. i understand people are worried. this has a disease new to our shores. although it is something that has cropped up periodically in other countries. because of the disease and the way it's transmitted and the symptoms that occur, i understand people are scared. but what i want to emphasize once again is that right now we have one individual who came in with the disease. we have two nurses who have been diagnosed with the the disease as a consequence of some fashion being exposed during treatment. and what remains true is that this is not an airborne disease. it has not easy to catch. you can only catch it through fluids of an individual who not only has the thes, but also is showing symptoms of the disease.
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# and so it's important, i think, for all of us to keep perspective in terms of how we handle this. we are taking this very seriously at the highest levels, starting with me. and my entire team has been has been essentially deputized to work with cdc. and that includes the department of defense. and our national security teams. we understands why it's important for us to provide assurances to the public, that folks are taking this very seriously, and they are. and obviously because of the the two nurses getting sick, that has made people that much more concerned. so all that is understood. but i do want everybody to understand, it remains a very difficult disease to catch.
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and if we continue to take the steps that we need to, then this will be contained. and the main thing that everybody needs to focus on is that the risks involved remain relatively low. extremely low. for ordinary folks. the biggest thing we have to do is make sure that health workers have more confidence. because they are on the front lines, and we're entering into flu season, which means a lot of people may be coming in with symptoms, and there are maybe false alarms and concerns. and so we're going to spend a lot of time working with our public health workers to make sure that they feel safe and adequately protected. but i want to assure the american people, we're taking this seriously. but this is something that is really hard to catch. and if we do what we need to do, and we stay focused, then this
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is going to be something that is contained here. the work that we have to do overseas is going to be a lot tougher. because frankly, they don't have a public health infrastructure. they're not well organized. they're poor countries and the epidemic is raging there. so that is going to take several months for us to start seeing the kinds of progress that we're going to see. but in the meantime, i want everybody to know that everybody here is on the case. all right? thank you very much. >> mr. president, just one question about ebola. the truth is up until this point the individuals here have been on point. and doing an outstanding job in dealing with what is a very complicated and fluid situation.
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those of you who don't know, lisa monaco who does a lot of my counterterrorism work, as well as national security work has been working with our secretary of health and human services. en and tom frieden at the cdc. it may be necessary to appoint a third person. it's not not that they haven't been doing an outstanding job really working hard on this issue. but they also are responsible for a whole bunch of other stuff. so i think also dealing with susan is with isis. and we're going into flu season, which means people should be looking to get their flu shots. we know every year tens of thousands of people die from the flu. and hundreds many go to the
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emergency rooms. that's something that tom is responsible for. it may make sense for us to have one person in part so that after this initial surge of activity we can have a more regular process just to make sure that we're crossing all the ts and dotting all the is going guard. okay? if i appoint somebody, i'll let you know, all right. thank you so much, everybody. thank you, guys. appreciate you. >> have a good evening. >> that was president obama speaking about the nation's ebola response, and we are staying on top of all the breaking news on ebola. moments ago nurse nina pham boarding that plane. you can see her walking to the aircraft just moments ago in this video. now this is a live look at her plane taking off any moment from dallas. our breaking news coverage continues next.
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just moments ago president obama speaking about ebola saying it may be appropriate to appoint an ebola czar. susan farucchio and political director rick klein. ebola czar? >> i don't know what the point of calming people saying we might need a czar at one point. the president has confidence in everyone there and coming out late on a week night and'lling people don't worry about anything, at some point we'll have to chew someone out and i wonder the optics about that and heir freaked out. >> it's really time to make sure someone's in charge. the white house press secretary said to say his own homeland security advisor was coored nath the response meaning she wasn't account act and couldn't be plamed. everyone was helping him with the exception of the cdc director have other jobs. and they can't handle this and
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it's time for someone. >> that's the job of hhs and tommy thompson did it when he was secretary of hhs with anthrax and let burwell do the job. >> i say though. we have enough layers of bureaucracy. the cdc is the director of controlling infectious diseases. he knows what he's doing. he's put to the test now. we don't like what he's doing so far. he knows he's got to tighten things up and if it starts spreading beyond the health care workers i might change my mind. >> it's always the answer in washington, rather than having people do their jobs we actually have people whose job this is including burwell, secretary of hhs, okay, let's just hire someone else. i'm taking the last word on that one. panel, thank you. we'll be right back with more breaking news. (receptionist) gunderman group.
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