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>> avonwalk.org. >> that's it for "fox & friends." thanks so much for coming. >> thanks for having us. >> have a great weekend. see you monday. bill: morning everybody, on a friday. we're seeing first time a dallas nurse speaking since dying thosed with ebola. here she is is part of a video, nina pham, hospital bed moments before her transfer to the national institutes of health in maryland. >> [inaudible] bill: tough time, a lot of stress, pressure, that was her doctor in the room. i'm bill hemmer. welcome, friday, here to "ameri i'm martha maccallum.
we're learning another dallas health care worker is actually on a carnival cruise ship right now, self-quarantined in the caribbean right now after handling specimens from thomas duncan, the original patient who was found to be with the virus. jonathan serrie live live from e cdc. there is a new story every day on this. what do we know first of all, jonathan, about nina pham's condition? >> reporter: nina pham is actually set to be in good condition. in that youtube video you just saw you can see her smiling. she appears alert. she is even joking, making jokes with her attending physician before leaving texas health presbyterian hospital in dallas. public health officials say the decision to move her to the national institutes of health is not a reflection on any change in her condition but they want to take some of the burden off of her dallas hospital where many of the medical staff are now out of service as they undergo active monitoring after treating now deceased ebola patient thomas duncan.
public health officials also say they want to give pham state of the art care. nih of course runs one of the nation's four biocontainment units with equipment and staff dedicating, dedicated to patients with infectious and highly dangerous diseases, martha? martha: we also mentioned a person on the cruise ship at the beginning of the show today, jonathan. what's that all about? >> reporter: well the person on the cruise ship is also an employee of that hospital in texas. while she did not have direct contact with thomas may have handled blood specimens or other specimens from the patient who eventually died from ebola. now she and her husband went on that cruise at a time that the cdc was only requiring medical workers to do self-monitoring. the agency has since upgraded its policy to require active monitoring. the ship's doctor verified this woman and her husband remain
healthy 11 days after her last possible exposure to ebola. remember, martha, the maximum incubation period for this virus is 21 days. so she is just two days shy of that. however, out of an abundance of caution, she and her husband agreed to isolate themselves inside their cabin. the state department says it is working on bringing them back safely to the united states. martha? martha: what a situation. jonathan, thank you very much. bill: this scare, ebola scare, causing an "high school" to shut its doors for two days now. we're told parent of student attending this elementary school in akron, ohio, had contact with the latest ebola patient. on caution the school closing down and student and her mother are under watch for possible symptoms. a bridal shop shutting down. infected nurse amber vinson, planning her wedding, part of the reason she went to the city
to and employees show no sign of any illness. martha: lawmakers on capitol hill sounding off against the cdc direct dr. thomas frieden, over missteps handling the ebola in the united states. frieden and other officials facing a contentious congressional panel with questions how prepared we are at our nation's hospitals for ebola, whether we should institute a travel ban. >> if you were involved in conversations with the white house about a travel bandied they rule it out, are they still considering it. >> from the cdc's perspective we will consider anything that -- >> are you going to answer the question about conversations with white house? is the white house considering a travel ban? >> i can't speak for the white house. >> do you know if they ruled out a travel ban? >> i can't speak for the white house. >> have you had conversations with them with about it? >> we discussed issues of
travel. martha: tough questions and criticism. nonef the lawmakers on the committee are suggesting that dr. frieden step down. bill: the president also weighing in on a travel ban, late last night talking while huddling with his cabinet. the white house saying he is not opposed to it, that being a travel ban, he says it he has been told it is not a good idea. >> if we institute a travel ban instead of the protocals that we put in place now, history shows that there is likelihood of increased avoidance. people do not readily disclose their information. bill: well the president however opening, is open, rather to appointing a so-called ebola czar. what about that? chris stirewalt, fox news digital politics editor. good morning to you. a czar too far? you say we also have an ebola czar? what do you mean by that? >> we have plenty of people, by the way, infectious disease and weaponnization of infectious
disease that our enemies would want to use infectious diseases against us, i'm sure they still do, that was a big consideration in the bush era. set up new offices, set up new funding. we increased funding dramatically for the organizations. there are lots of people, lots of individuals who the president could say, i'm making this person the one who is in charge of the ebola response. which he has essentially done with dr. frieden at the cdc. when he talks about appointing a ebola czar, not talking about creating a new position because we need a new position, what he is talking about frieden lost public confidence in rather dramatic way. everybody they put forward to try to instill calm in the public has instead further panicked and alarmed because they have been wrong. so they're looking for a new face. bill: got it. from what i understand, about 150 people every day fly into the u.s. from these three affected countries. >> yeah. bill: the travel ban seems to be in play as of last night. you heard the president talk about that. will that happen? >> well we're starting to hear
from him the same thing we heard from him about isis and bombing and syria which is, no, and then the crawfishing begins. as the polls show what they're showing, pressure increases on the administrat way the botch about we've got, the cdc made some rather lavish promises being able to contain what is going on. we know that they failed. that having happened, public pressure being what it is, the president says he is not opposed to a travel ban, just you couldn't really enforce it and it really wouldn't work. we enforce travel bans all the time, every day. steve hayes. bill: he was on the no-fly list. you see the pattern of backtracking on big decisions and seeing it happen again with this ebola case. that is the point you're making. >> absolutely. this is the crawfish presidency. this is very reactive presidency. they make bold, audacious claims and audacious statements what they will do, when political pressure change, so do their
attitude. bill: chris stirewalt. thank you, in washington. should the president appoint a ebola czar? send us a tweet @billhemmer, @marthamaccallum. we'll talk to you on twitter next couple hours. my best guess, 4hours we've seen a new case. if we don't see anymore cases going forward, it wouldn't happy. if we get another one in all likelihood you will see a ban on travel. martha: if we get a new person, another thomas duncan, somebody been in the country 10 or 12 days we don't know about yet is possibility. we hope that doesn't happen. to this huge story as well. the u.s.-led coalition stepping up airstrikes on militants in the syria border town of kobani under siege by isis more than a month now but could there now be progress in pushing isis back? greg palkot live near the syria-turkey border with the very latest for us once again this morning. welcome back, greg. >> reporter: martha, for the last few minutes we've been hearing u.s. jet fighters
overhead and we've been hearing blasts like that behind us. i will ask my cameraman mal james to show you some activity. that smoke, the white smoke you're seeing is right on the border between kobani and turkey. that is where the isis terrorists have been targeting in the last few hours. they would very much like to control the border crossing between these two places. turkey does not want that to happen but they are still not doing anything. even though we've seen shells coming from isis right into turkey territory. turkey not doing anything. they don't want to be a part of this fight. all this day we've been watching spore rad tick street fights throughout the town between isis terrorists and kurdish defenders. artillery mortar, we believe that was a mortar right there. our sources tell us in fact there have been more airstrikes overnight against isis in kobani as well. we're been hearing activity in the last few minutes. they tell us in fact these strikes have been hitting various positions across town.
more than 60 us airere have strikes against isis in kobani since monday. and by our reckoning and that of other experts, that has been the falling into the hand of terrorists and the kurdish defenders still hanging on to it very bravely. isis is active here and also active about 120 miles to the east along the turkey-syria border. just outside of aleppo some other very disturbing news today. they occupy a syrian airbase there, the isis terrorists, and according to a valuable source of ours, a ex-iraqi air force pilot, are training isis fighters how to fly mig aircraft. they have even done a couple of runs over that airbase. they're not in action yet but i think that is the last thing we need right now. dogfights between u.s. fighter jets and some isis-run mig
fighters. back to you, martha. martha: that would be a big and bad development. greg, breaking news there. thank you very much. bill: who wins that battle, right? no doubt. vice president joe biden's youngest son hunter has been discharged from the navy. it happened a while ago. we're learning of it just today. we'll tell you why in a moment. martha: there ace major hurricane out there set to slam a section of paradise right below the eye of the storm. we're tracking that. bill: president obama says you can trust the government to handle ebola in america but can we considering the track record. not everyone is confident, remember this. >> you're saying no corruption, none? >> there were some, there were some bone ned headed decisions. >> bone med headed decisions not mass corruption. not mass corruption. not even a smidgen of corruption.
martha: hunter biden is the youngest son of vice president joe biden and he was reportedly kicked out of navy reserve after he failed a drug test. the navy says that the 44-year-old was discharged back in february, less than a year after being selected for the part-time post as public affairs officer. biden saying in statement that he respects the navy decision and is moving forward with his family's love and support. >> fox news alert now. that is live look at kobani, northern syria. greg palkot, moments ago telling us the tide in that battle may be turning.
but the pentagon, press secretary rear admiral john kirby saying air power alone will not be enough to get the job done. >> what makes kobani significant that isil wants it. the more they want it and more resources they apply to it, mortar gets available for us to hit there. i said yesterday and keep saying it, kobani could still fall. our military participation is in the air and air only right now. we've all been honest about the fact that air power alone will not be able to save any town in particular. bill: let's talk about that with general jack keane, chairman of institute for study of war, fox news military analyst and welcome, sir, to "america's newsroom." >> good to see you, bill. bill: the point he makes. kobani could still fall. this is not a done deal. why is it for the past 10 days has the administration changed course and gone after isis in that town? >> initially when the airstrikes began on 23 september, they were hitting strategic targets, base camps, command-and-control
stations and this attack began a few days prior to. that when media put spotlight on it and recognized there was particular humanitarian crisis unfolding before their eyes and they began focus on it t was clearly the right decision to make and it became a priority target for us. we're getting positive results because one, we have tough, courageous fighters from the kurds. a few miles from them are their wives and children. they're literally fighting for them and their homes. number two, we're coordinating with the force. they're telling us where in the town and what neighborhood and buildings are the isis fighters are located, so that airstrikes are very effective. bill: so without the kurds in the town now, we don't know where the targets are? >> no, we would have great difficulty finding those targets. we fly isr over there, drones and high altitude isr. bill: isr is? >> is surveillance aircraft. we would be able to get some sense of it but have the kind of
precision targeting going on right now, we know, what blocks they're in, what buildings they're in. that is why it is so effective. we'll see how long the battle takes. ultimately let's win it. meantime to the east, "washington post," front page cover, a lot of people will start picking up on this story, sir. to ask you is what is next. it is pretty obvious, the baghdad battle is starting now. explain. >> yeah. i think the battle for baghdad is beginning. we're not going to see a mosul, fallujah, or kobani-like ground attack because we would be able to destroy that if that took place. the fact of the matter is, they're occupying and penetrating the suburbs around baghdad. abu ghraib. bill: other towns, north and south and east and in from those suburbs they will conduct terrorist at activities in baghdad. they will increase in level of violence. their purpose will be the to undermined this fledgling government, bill.
and deny its capability to service its population, to provide the kind of direction and guidance it needs. in other words, reduce their governing of iraq to garrison baghdad. focus inward and become defensive and cripple the government itself, based on the level of violence they will be able to achieve. that i think, it will take some sometime to achieve that but i think it's beginning. bill: general, thank you. four-star general, chairman of institute of study of war and fox news military analyst. jack keane. >> good talking to you, bill. martha: isis to the midterms the other big story we're watching. 18 days to go to the election, with control of the senate hanging very much in the balance at this point, why this battle may extend well beyond the early days of november. the latest on some really tight races out there. we've got brand new numbers plus this. >> he hits one into right! the giants win the pennant.
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maryland on "america's newsroom." martha: latest on high-stakes battle for control of the united states senate in iowa, senate candidates faced off in a contentious debate last night. they had a few of these. it became clear that president obama's policies as far as this debate goes will be on the ballot. >> i don't support obamacare however, the congressman voted for obamacare and continues to defend it today. >> it is not perfect but we need to fix it and improve it instead of doing what you would do which is vote 50 times to repeal it. martha: that is not the last of that conversation. just one of several races that are very, very, tight right now. there is a chance that runoff elections could keep the midterm battles going until january. you may not have an answer to who control the senate. john roberts lace it out from atlanta this morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, martha. real chance we may not who controls the senate on november this who controls the senate. in two races the candidate has
to hit 50%. in louisiana mary landrieu in tight race with republican bill cassidy and a tea party candidate rob man necessary. in, georgia, republican candidate david perdue head-to-head with michelle nunn and libertarian candidate getting 5% of the vote. there is good chance none of them will hit 50% election night. here is where it gets interesting. the runoff for louisiana is month later, is december 6th. look at this, runoff for georgia is not two months later, january 6th. that is three days after the 114th congress begins. here is possible scenario. we end up on november fifth or maybe a little after because it will take a while to count alaska's votes. with republicans say with 50 seats? the senate. democrats at 48. what happens then? listen to joe trippi? >> if we have runoffs in louisiana or georgia or both, and the senate, balance in the senate is on the line, it is
going to be a donnybrook beyond anything we've ever seen. i mean, i think it could get into the hundreds of millions of dollars in huge fights. >> reporter: now who would have the advantage, natural advantage if these races go to runoff. here is karl rove's take. >> the bad news for the democrats is, that these states have historically been better for republicans in runoffs and the kind of people who turnout in runoffs tend to be more conservative and more an older and more republican oriented. >> reporter: carl rove beliefs advantage republicans. what is likelihood of a runoff, martha. senator landrieu's seat went to one in 2000. the open seat when saks bichambliss ran for it in 2008, that went to runoff as well. the republican prevailed obviously. martha: some of the things to look for. any other signals which way it might go if runoff scenario goes into play? >> reporter: in louisiana, for example, if combined vote of
bill cassidy and rob maness 50%, likely he will prevail on that rainoff on december the 6th. look in georgia calculations are more difficult. if perdue were to be leading, went to runoff, karl rove beliefs perdue probably would prevail. you never know, so much money and so much focus will be attached to these races they could go either way. martha: very interesting. john, thank you very much. bill: 100 million in north carolina. 100 million in kentucky so far. you get a runoff, whole country will be throwing their money in there. martha: that is the scenario. if both sides don't try to invest that money now and try to get over the 50% mark and save themselves money later, that will be next couple of weeks. bill: then of course none of this may happen. and that is why we watch the first tuesday in november. we're just getting a response from carnival cruise lines. there is a passenger on board, one of their ships in the
caribbean, who may have come into contact with the ebola patient in dallas, texas. we'll tell you what they're saying. >> happy cruising, right? plus president obama telling everybody to relax a bit on the ebola issue. he says, you know we've got this. we'll keep this in check. the president has promised things before though that did not pan out. many are saying -- >> if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. [applause] if you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan, period. [applause] but there are no bra? 24/7 it's just i'm a little reluctant to try new things. what's wrong with trying new things? feel that in your muscles? yeah... i do... try a new way to bank, where no branches equals great rates.
needed to self-monitor for symptoms. that is what we belief the facts of story are now. carnival saying in part, deemed by cdc to be very low risk at this time. the guest remains isolation on board the ship and not deemed to be a risk to any guests or crew. the ship is due back in galveston, texas sunday. statement by carnival cruise. martha: president obama saying that the government has the ebola situation under control. critics of the president say given the administration's track record, americans may not rely necessarily on those words. here is george will. >> the president keeps saying trust us. a little late in the game to do. that the president is saying, trust us, is the one who said, an internet video caused benghazi attack. the president says trust us, that there is not a smidgen of corruption on the irs. the president said if you like your health care plan you can keep it period. it gets late in the game to try
to hermetically seal one portion of the government that people are going to trust. martha: we'll see what these guys think about. that juan williams, fox news political analyst. mary catherine ham, hotair.com and fox news contributor. welcome to you both. good morning. >> good morning. martha: juan, let me start with you. george will says the president trust us. he said it on a number of issues and people of the united states have found they couldn't do that. what do you make about that analogy? >> well, i don't know where to start. i will say this, the curtain has risen on the political theater of the ebola crisis at this moment. i think with the hearings yesterday in congress and you see republicans trying to undermined confidence in the president and in the administration's ability to deal with the ebola crisis i think is part of a larger theme which is, you can't trust this president. well, i mean the list that george will went through, i think is controversial. obviously we have no evidence of what went wrong in benghazi except that we have dead people and we've been trying to figure
out how to handle it and we've had congressional hearings, health care seems to be working at moment. i could go on but larger point here is i think there is republican effort to simply say that in advance of the election, the no reason to trust this president and democrats. martha: mary catherine what do you think? is george will's comment fair? >> yeah, i look, i think americans first of all, are concerned about this. a lot of people like, don't panic, don't panic! i think completely rational to be concerned about it and look, juan, go past the politics of it, past any of those specific promises that were broken or things that went wrong, and talk about the confidence of what happened in this specific case in which among other things the cdc has allowed a woman with a fever who later tested possibly for ebola, we're all praying for her, amber vinson to, get on a flight to ohio. one possibly exposed person on a cruise ship. it feels like, no, i don't think you guys have this under control
and that is perfectly rational conclusion because the promises from the president when he spoke at cdc, this is not going to get to our shores. we have screening processes take care of. that when it was in texas, certainly has to do with the hospital as well as cdc, we have protocols that will take care of this. i think there has not been a ton of evidence that those protocols have been clearly communicated, that folks have been trained and something people are in the right to worry about and this administration over and over again says, gives sort of excuses for its own incompetence. we didn't know about that. the federal government is pretty big. who can control it all. those are not encouraging signs. martha: a little bit of sound from the president that you're referring to. >> i want people to understand that the dangers of you contracting ebola, the dangers of pa serious outbreak are extraordinarily low but we are taking this very seriously at the highest levels of government. martha: i don't know how reassuring that is, highest levels of government are taking
this really serious i. i go back to the families -- >> always says that, martha. martha: it is. go back to families of these two nurses, juan. put yourselves in their shoes, ask the question, was the leadership properly assigned to this issue? because we were told from the president and from the cdc there was next to zero chance that anybody was going to get this in this country and indeed they did. >> right. i couldn't agree more about it way with what mary catherine said earlier. if you look at specifics of this case it would cause you to have your fait seems like the cdc, i guess by extension president obama and administration said they really had this under control. not that nobody was ever going to get it but there was no chance it was going to once identified and tracked, spread and now we have these two nurses in this situation. so, yeah, people are asking more questions. i think the scrutiny level has been ramped up. the point, yes, there is reason to say, you know what? you guys have to be held accountable.
this is a tough situation. martha: that is what he always says, juan. ebb everybody says, we'll hold ourselves accountable, we'll hold the people who did this accountable. heard it in the va situation. heard it in. irs situation you can't deny a fact number of times we've been told including benghazi, we'll get to the bottom of this. we'll find out exactly what happened here, the credibility issue is a real one. it is a real one. >> i don't think so. >> how could it not be? put up the poll, please. put up the poll. >> sure, go ahead. martha: 68% of the americans, how are things going, going to hell in a hand basket. 58%? >> you ask that question anytime over the decade, right track, wrong track. it has been higher after iraq and katrina, it was higher. so that is not, you put it in isolation, looks like oh, the sky is falling. martha: let me ask you something, juan, i want to get back to mary catherine. when you talk to people out there, juan, do they feel like there is unease in the country. >> of course. everything from the economy, you
know, to a larger sense of concern about the middle east. that anxiety is real but to suddenly try to feed it in this way about you know, the failures of the cdc and then the political argument, the democrats say you shouldn't have cut budget, republicans say these people are incompetent. martha: it is in my opinion it is what it is. you look at the facts. >> human beings dealing with a tough situation. martha: absolutely. but you have the cdc admitting they didn't handle it well. mary catherine, i want to put the headline out there. the world health organization admits botching attempts to stop the ebola outbreak in west africa. you have another admission of a failed attempt from the world health organization. mary catherine. >> yeah, i think people are going to make mistakes and i think there is some allowance for that. not every failure is political failure and that we should capitalize on that but as i said perfectly rational to question the federal government in this case. when you hear the president who
always says we have this under control, we'll get to the bottom, people will be held accountable. holding account, usually happens 3 1/2 years later and slow-walked an investigation and something that was a scandal become as phony scandal. there is a real question to question when he makes those promises if they are real especially in this case, when you see the cdc, hey, you have a fever, go ahead and get on a flight. that doesn't make people feel good. >> that was wrong. martha: the administration's job give reassures in something based real and they are assured things are being handled. that is not what we're seeing in the polls. >> competence is the greatest way to get trust and respect. martha: thank you very much, juan, mary catherine. >> have a good weekend. martha: you too. bill: fox news alert. bermuda is getting ready for a powerful hurricane names gonzalo. the g man, is bearing down packing winds of 130 miles per hour.
they say they're ready in bermuda. only days after tropical storm fay caused widespread damage there. meteorologist maria molina in fox weather center. rare you get two storms in place like this almost back-to-back. how does it look? >> that's right, bill. fay and gonzalo packing storms in bermuda in very short time. gonzalo is very strong storm. the national hurricane center saying this is strong statement. life-threatening storm surge with this storm and very destructive waves. that is what we're looking at impacts in bermuda. the big he concern is also the wind. this is a category 4 hurricane with maximum sustained winds at 130 miles per hour. there could be a little bit of weakening happening over next couple hours before the system makes landfall. the storm keeping bonds saul low away from the u.s.-gonzalo. the trough is pushing the system toward the east. dry air working its way. it is still a healthy storm.
right there in the last couple of scans, that is burst of convection. we're still looking at a very powerful storm system. here is timing with center of the storm coming on shore possibly overbermuda today, 10:00 p.m. friday. this will last several hours. tropical storm conditions possible as early as later this morning or early this afternoon. hurricane conditions should be arriving by this evening and lasting again for several hours. here's a quick look at the forecast track, bill. take a look at that. cat-3 forecast. a little bit of weakening cat 3, cat 4, very, very dangerous for the island of bermuda. bill: maria, thanks. they tell you that they're ready for it. they build stuff on the island for cases like this. the best of luck to the folks out there in the atlantic. martha: maybe it will turn in the cone a little bit to help them out. we're learning a little bit more about the death of comedienne joan rivers. the official cause of death is now public in her case. we'll tell you what we now know.
bill: a health worker in a self-imposed quarantine on board a cruise ship who had contact in dallas with thomas duncan. how much of a risk is this person to the others on board that boat? >> texas presbyterian is really dealing with a difficult situation. they're working very hard because of the events of the past week, they are now dealing with at least 50 health care workers who may potentially have been exposed.
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of that situation. a great boston bruins goalie, a laser pointed at him. that is a huge mistake. he claims it did not affect his play but left the game in the third period after giving up five goals. this is the latest in disturbing trend of people pointing lasers during sporting events. really, people? including a detroit man used a laser pointer against a player from the buffalo bills. we have to scan people for lasers as they walk in the door? do the right thing, folks. >> we need a plan to treat those who are sick, to train health care workers to safely provide care, to stop the spread of this disease here at home and at its source in africa. bill: so this morning we're learning that from the hearing yesterday about a dallas health worker who handled samples from ebola infected patient aboard a cruise ship. worker on texas on board a
carnival cruise ship about cdc requirement to actively self-monitor. we have a former chief of staff at nova fairfax medical campus in virginia and good morning, to you, doctor. thank you for your expertise and your time today. we're told this person on board the ship is not showing any symptoms so far but, i mean what should we know about this? you're at sea? you're self-quarantined. how is this possible? >> hi, bill, good morning, thank you for having me. i am proud of her for quarantining herself. at this point in time it appears 19 days after her exposure. she is doing the right thing. there are, the cruise ships are actually very prepared for contagious diseases after norwalk. bill: are they? >> well, because of their norwalk scare. so they are used and prepped for doing cleaning procedures. i am proud of her for keeping herself in a quarantined or socially isolated situation
until she can be cleared. bill: okay. do you expect her to be evacuated? because the ship right now is not due back in dock for another three days. >> well the damage has already been done. if she is asymptomatic at 19 days, nobody knows the answer to that question. might be socially conscious right thing to do for rest of the people on the ship, particularly if this ship wants to give them a little peace of mind. we certainly wouldn't want her in the next 48 hours on the ship, to get fever, get symptoms of ebola and have to have a ship docked at a medical facility quarantined and treat her. bill: she left galveston on the 12th of october which was five days ago. you had vinson travel two days prior to that on october 10th. as you put the timeline together did the cdc screw this up in notification? >> i believe there was some
mismanagement. people were not talking. people weren't thinking this through. one of the problems is that the cdc does not have operational control over hospitals and there was a real disjoint in communication. it is my friehling that a senior leadership position, to help get all of the stakeholders together, for getter communication, and better operational management is direly needed. bill: sounds like a czar. do i hear that correctly? >> yes. bill: do you support that? >> i support that. i wrote that on a piece of paper before i heard that discuss it yesterday. bill: really? how come? >> what i see happening here you have a lost stakeholders without a primary management person. the cdc is great at surveillance and keeping track of people along with the health departments. they have their role. there's a communications piece lacking that is extremely important for communicating the public the facts, communicating
the hospital the facts, coordinating with the health care association and societies. the hospital associations. and informing the public of the correct information and seth protocols. bill: we were told in the beginning that every hospital in america can handle this and now we have found out otherwise. really calls into question of confidence as to what we're being told. dr. mary schmidt, thank you for your time. >> thank you, bill. bill: out of washington, d.c. with us. you bet. thank you. martha. martha: outrage this morning after local police purposely released suspected criminals who are illegal immigrants, rather than deporting them. why this move is hitting taxpayers where it hurts. bill: also this mysterious event closely turning night in day in the skies over this town. what do you think that is, maccallum?
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martha: recent court filings prompting more counties and cities to release criminal aliens on purpose rather than hold them for federal deportation. that costs u.s. taxpayers a lot of money. william la jeunesse with more on the story for us in los angeles. hey, william. >> well, martha, one congressman calls this a jailbreak. police arrest a guy. records show he is here illegally. feds ask for 48 hour hold to deport him. instead locals let him go, forcing agents to find him again. >> he is convicted aggravated felon. national from mexico. documented gang member. >> reporter: agents hunt for the worst of the worst while jails across the countryy catch and release. >> law enforcement agencies not honoring detainers that undermines our authorities and mission. >> reporter: undermine because 275 county jails have decided to ignore federal requests to hold criminal aliens for deportations.
>> statistics show that of these convicted felons 75% of them are going to reoaf phoned. -- reoffend. if we get them into the jails before they get the opportunity to reoffend and create more victims, for us it is just a win-win situation. >> see your hands. >> reporter: the change forces agents to recapture criminals. >> thought it was patrol, not i.c.e. >> reporter: local police jailed this man on a prior robbery conviction but let him go. with three prior drug convictions and deportation and a felon convicted with a assault with a deadly weapon. >> they're have a dragnet with catches up u.s. citizens and lawful immigrants accused of crimes only and who have done nothing wrong. >> reporter: fearing lawsuits counties rejected retainers, releasing nine thousand criminal aliens this year. 62%, i.c.e. claims, were a threat to public safety. >> the notion that if these
counties don't honor i.c.e. detainers there are somehow putting people at risk is simply a fiction. >> reporter: in fact i.c.e. says at least two fatalities were committed upon release of these immigrants. this is political, martha. court rulings say locals can crop with the feds and are not required to and most big democratic cities they simply don't. back to you. >> william, thank you. bill: just getting word there wasn't news conference in 30 minutes from the national institutes of health in bethesda, maryland. that is where the first nurse infected with ebola, the first confirmed case here in the u.s., nina pham was transferred to late last night. we'll be there live in a moment. we'll carry the news conference live and let you know what you need to know about her case and others. 10:30 a.m. eastern time. back after this. ♪
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the national institutes of health will hold a news conference about 30 minutes from now, transported to that federal isolation unit last night. that's the video she made as president obama faces fresh fire for the handling of this crisis. brand new hour of "america's newsroom," i'm martha maccallum. bill: and i'm bill hemmer. a third hospital worker from dallas who handled some form of ebola material from the now-deceased tom duncan is now on board a cruise ship in the caribbean. but nurse nina pham shown here talking to her doctor right before her transfer from dallas, texas, to maryland late last night. >> thanks for, thanks for -- [inaudible]
martha: she is so sweet and, obviously,o emotionally connected to her story, having pulled her through the worst of it, it appears. casey steegal live in dallas, catherine herridge outside the nih which is where we begin this morning. catherine, what can you tell us from there? >> reporter: well, martha, thank you, and good morning. nurse nina pham arrived here late last night, and as you mentioned, that thank you video was released. i want you to take another look at that video because you can see pham is doing fairly well, but you can also see the deep psychological impact of this isolation these patients feel as you see her medical team fully clothed in that hazmat style. she was flown to the suburban washington area and then traveled via ambulance to the
nih where she's being treat inside a high hi specialized biocontainment facility. the head of the nih testified here this week that they have very limited capacity. >> condition is stable, and she seems to be doing reasonably well. but i have to verify that myself when my team goes over. >> and if other people come to dallas, somewhere else, will they also be transferred to nih? >> we have a limited capacity of beds of being able to do this type of high level care and containment. our total right now is two beds. she will occupy one of them. >> reporter: based on our research here at fox, martha, what we know is there are less than two dozen beds that have that high level of care, and with pham coming here to the nih, their capacity has now been reduced by 50%. martha: it has. so what are we learning about this virus as we get further into this, catherine? >> reporter: well, martha, one of the things that's really under the microscope here at the
nih is whether the ebola virus is mutating. if the virus mutates, that is an indicator that the method of transmission may change. so far what we've heard universeally from members of the nih as well as the cdc, that the two nurses -- amber vinson and thee that pham -- nina pham, both had close contact with the bodily fluids of that victim. again, they will be looking very closely at the nih for any mutations in that virus. >> we are confident this is not airborne transmission. these nurses were working very hard, they were working with a patient who was very ill who was having lots of vomiting, lots of diarrhea. there was a lot of infectious material, and the investigation is ongoing, but we immediately implemented a series of measures to increase the level of safety. >> reporter: what's so concerning to health care professionals here at the nih is the trajectory of this virus. when you look at previous
outbreaks going back to 1976, about 200, 250 people died in each of those outbreaks. this, as you know, is well over 2500, so it's on a very upward trajectory. what we're hoping to hear at this news conference from dr. fauci and members of his infectious diseases team is what they are learning about pham, her condition, and any mutations of this virus, martha. martha: yeah. that's essential to understanding this going forward. catherine, thank you. bill: also this morning we're learning a bit more about a dallas hospital worker who right now is onboard a carnival cruise ship in the caribbean. casey steegal picks up that story live back there in dallas. we got some information from the cruise line itself, and what are they telling us about this person onboard? >> reporter: yeah, bill, we did. in fact, i just got off the phone with carnival cruise line, and they tell me the ship is off the coast of belize as we speak and, basically, it left out of galveston, texas, on october the 12th which was this past sunday. it was also before the cdc
changed its active monitoring program for medical workers at texas health presbyterian hospital who had some form of contact with thomas eric duncan while he was a patient here. the u.s. state department telling us the individual on this cruise ship is an employee of this hospital and may have handled a lab specimen from duncan. but this woman is not showing symptoms and is not in any sickness. she is in voluntary isolation aboard the carnival magic as we speak. carnival also released a written statement to us as well. it reads in part, i'm quoting: all guests staling with us -- sailing with us -- >> r eporter: the state department says it's currently working on how to get the woman off of that ship. bill: so we know one of the infected nurses traveled by air, and what is the airline doing
now that we can report, casey? >> reporter: yeah. amber vinson, as you recall, hopped on a frontier airlines plane from dallas to cleveland to plan her wedding and then came back to dallas all before she was diagnosed. he claims the cdc gave her clearance to travel by commercial air, but now the cdc is saying the 29-year-old nurse was not entirely forthcoming about how she was feeling and when her symptoms exactly started. that has now prompted frontier airlines to reach out to some 750 passengers not just those onboard the two planes with her, but onboard the planes that traveled to other cities as they continued their routes before they were pulled out of service. bill: casey steegal back live there in dallas, texas, with us today. martha: what about the question of an ebola vaccine? is there one on the horizon? greta van suggestion ran sat down -- suggestion remember sat down with doctors from walter
reed. >> we have data from use in nonhuman primates, but at times it doesn't necessarily predict what's going to happen to real people. martha: even if they do find a cure, doctor cans say procedures have to be followed to mass produce a vaccine, and while they're not talking years, those things do take time. bill: senator rand paul slamming the government's response for initially downplaying the virus saying it's more contagious, in his view, than aids. >> they have gone on and on and on telling you don't worry, it's not that contagious. has to be direct contact, and you have to exchange bodily fluids. what does that sound like? the first thing i think when they tell me that, that sounds like aids. but do you know how they define direct contact? being within three feet of someone. this thing is incredibly contagious. people are getting it fully gowned, masked and must be getting a very tiny amount, and
they're still getting it. bill: senator paul went on to talk about that, a medical degree, you may recall. he made those remarks while campaigning for scott brown in new hampshire. martha: so president obama applauding his team handling the ebola crisis, now saying that an ebola czar is something that he is considering, that that may be needed to coordinate the efforts here. this after two nurses contracted ebola despite the safety precautions, as we just heard. joined now by byron york, fox news contributor. good morning to you. >> good morning, martha. martha: do we need an ebola czar in this case? >> well, the president seems to be kinda, sorta coming around to it. he said kind of casually last night he'll let us know. but i think the bigger question is not whether an office is created, but whether anyone is actually in charge of the government's response to the ebola crisis. i think what we saw on wednesday was something really interesting at the white house briefing.
the spokesman, josh earnest, said that lisa monaco, who is the president's national security adviser, was, quote, integrating the government's response. so reporters said, okay, so she's in charge? he said, no, no, no, there's the department of defense, health and human services, there's the center for disease control, agency for international development. so the reporter said is there any one potential who is in charge -- person who is in charge, and he didn't answer that. i think that's why the next day you saw the president come out, invite cameras into his cabinet meetings, speak to reporters and sort of present himself as the man who is this charge of the government's response. martha: yeah. i find it unbelievable, you know, when you look at the entities that are already in place, byron, you've got an hhs headed by sylvia burwell, jay johnson at homeland security, cdc, you've also got the surgeon general who is an acting surgeon general right now, a rear admiral. i look at his biography, he has a masters in public health from
harvard, he has been on hhs, cdc, fda handling counterterrorism, hurricane katrina, anthrax, i mean, why on earth with all -- he has 6800 people under him who, you know, who he is involved with who are public health officials across the country. why on earth would we need another person in charge when we've already paid and hired for all these people who were supposed to be in charge? >> well said. the government has a lot of people. the question is, is the president going to delegate the authority to one of them to do all of this? but the big questions i think everybody thinks are going to be decided by the president. will there be a travel ban? the white house continues to be dead set opposed to that. the president said he's not philosophically opposed, but he believes it would not work. so these questions, i think, everybody knows will be decided by the president. but has he put authority in the hands of one person who's already, as you said, a government employee? no, he hasn't done that. martha: yeah.
a czar may be somebody to push the blame onto in this situation. already plenty of people who are well qualified, one of them perhaps could step up and coordinate this with the president. byron, thank you very much. >> thank you, martha. martha: you bet. bill: two big national, really international stories happening side by side. this is john kerry now at the state department. he is briefing employees of the diplomatic corps at the department of state about ebola, so we're watching that, and he's letting them know about the u.s. response thus far. um, cross reference that with what's happening at the pentagon now, this is an update by the pentagon on what's happening with regard to isis in the town of coe ban any. -- kobani. rear admiral john kirby yesterday saying there is progress on the ground, but nothing will take back that town unless you have forces on the ground. what does that mean? can the kurds do that? or will they need more? apparently, the coordination between the u.s. airstrikes and the kurdish fighters who know where the terrorists are in that town have proved reasonably
successful so far. yet isis still rules about a third if not more of the town of kobani. and also there is the threat on baghdad. we're waiting for headlines from both of these events. in the national institutes of health, by the way, they will briefer in 20 minutes, and we'll take that live in maryland. martha: while we were talking, there may have been an ebola czar appointed. we haven't confirmed that yet. you may find this interesting when you learn the name being passed around here. the cdc calling for a travel ban from lawmakers battling ebola. >> we need to stop the entry of individuals into this country until we get it under control, and restricting those visas, doing a quarantine center there if you want to exit this hot zone, then you spend 21 days in quarantine before you exit. martha: congresswoman marsha blackburn is on deck with more on how her plan wouldng up.
bill: also, nurses on the front lines calling for action to keep them safe. the head of their national union is here live today on what their asking the president to do about it. martha: and 18 days to go until the midterm elections, and from ebola to isis, the bad news has piled up for the president in recent months, and by extension, for democrats as well. what will the impact be? we've got a great panel coming up on the home stretch to election day. ♪searching with devotion ♪for a snack that isn't lame ♪but this... ♪takes my breath away
♪ >> why we're still allowing folks to come over here, and why is there in quarantine? >> our fundamental mission is to protect americans. right now we're able to track everyone who comes in -- >> but you're not stopping them from being around other people, doctor. i understand that, and i have a high respect for you, but even so, they're not limited from travel. they're not quarantined for 21 days. martha: cdc director tom frieden facing repeated questions from lawmakers on why he does not believe that a travel ban is necessary on flights to and from thewet african countries that are -- west african countries that are battling ebola. marsha blackburn is the vice chair of the house energy and commerce committee. she was in that subcommittee hearing yesterday, and she joins us now. good morning, congresswoman, good to have you with us. so you believe that there should be, as we played before, a quarantine that takes place in these countries in west africa before people are allowed to even board the plane in the
beginning. explain how that would work. >> absolutely. we're going to send our military over there, martha, 700 of my constituents from fort campbell are going over. what they need to do first is set up something similar to a forward operating base, an fob. and individuals that want to exit those countries, guinea, sierra leone, liberia, should subject themselves and voluntarily go into a 21-day quarantine. if they're clear on day 22, they can proceed. with their travel plans. but we need to quarantine them there. and dr. frieden has been consistent in his remarks that we need to dress this there -- address this there, that we these to take care of it right there at the genesis. and this would be a way to help do that. martha: so are you in favor or not in favor of a travel ban which would prevent flights coming in from those areas and also, i would assume, prevent people who have those pass bolters and might be coming -- passports and might be coming from other countries. >> that's right.
i would prefer a travel ban. but if he's not going to do that as i have asked dr. frieden would he support a quarantine there, if he continues to say we need to address it there, then let's quarantine there before people can exit that country either to come to us or any other country. and, you know, i really think that the world health organizations and other countries that have implemented a travel ban would support doing this. having a quarantine there. martha: yeah. the world health organization said just moments ago that they botched the handling of this. and it's very interesting when you look at why they say it was botched. they talk about the politicalization, really, of the health officials in the african countries in terms of the way they approached their job and they're not really doing their job. what dueck about that? >> well, and they're right about that, and that is part of the concern, is that politics is into this. we don't want to offend anybody.
but we have to keep the american people safe. and we are here to work with the cdc and make certain that the american people are safe. but, martha a, look at what happens with one individual coming into the hospital. two now that have contracted the disease, dozens being watched, hundreds inconvenienced. and what we have to do is say, all right, we have to stop this. martha: yeah. >> what's the best way to stop it? a travel ban. and if you're not going to do a travel ban, do a quarantine there. hold people there before they exit the country. martha: all right. quickly, before i let you go here, a czar, an ebola czar looks like it may be in the works from the white house today. we're working to confirm the name right now. is that what's needed, or can some of these people who already hold these jobs at these agencies take control? >> it needs to be someone with experience in public health, emergency response and not a communications person who is going to spin this.
martha: well, there are literally thousands of people on the payroll in all of these different health agencies that already work for the government and for the american people. we'll see if they can find one of them to coordinate all of this. thank you very much, congresswoman. >> thank you. bill: ten minutes away from the news conference at the national institutes of health, we'll watch it live with you. in the meantime, a dangerous hurricane is bearing down. where hurricane gonzalo is heading as preparations for its arrival swing into high gear. martha: and why a national icon is getting a close inspection. what engineers are looking for. ♪ ♪ ♪
martha: workers in st. louis 630 feet ie air rappeling down the city's iconic gateway arch. this is not for people with fear of heights, obviously. they're searching for seams as part of this repair project. the monument symbolizes expansion and st. louis' role as both a deaths nation and a gateway to the -- destination and a gateway to the west. bill: hurricane gonzalo heading straight for bermuda. second storm in about seven days. jonathan hunt's live in our newsroom here in new york. the clock is ticking. >> reporter: very much on the way, bill. it will be hitting bermuda in the next few hours, and this, officials say, is a very dangerous storm. currently a category four, likely to bring a rise in sea levels of 5-40 feet -- 35-40 feet and what officials say will
be a life threatening storm surge. so nobody on that island of about 70,000 people is taking any chances. listen here. >> this one here or you pray to lord. >> looks like it's going to hit us right on the nose. >> reporter: fabian was in 2003, so everybody's getting ready. these pictures, by the way, from some friends of mine, u.s. citizens who live on the island, jimmy and carrie thatcher. that's their beautiful little home boarded up like everybody else, and they tell me they are ready for this to get, quote, very scary. bill: if anybody's ready, it's bermuda, right? they were hit last week too. what came of that? >> reporter: that was tropical storm faye that did a great deal of damage. there are 1500 homes that are still without power. these are some pictures from
darlene mccarthy balmfield who writes a blog. so they are taking a double whammy here when gonzalo hits late today. but take a look at one last picture i i want to show you. this, again, from my friends jimmy and carrie, of the last supper as they are calling it. this was outside their house last night. bermudian fashion, all done by candlelight because, as i say, they were still without power. they've all got a pretty good attitude, bill, but they know this is a very serious storm. it has already, for instance, killed one person in the island of st. martin, has caused a lot of damage in the anyone can republic, etc., so they know there is trouble ahead. bill: yeah. our best to your friends there and everybody else. jonathan hunt from our newsroom in new york. martha: a couple minutes away from a press conference from the national institutes of health. we expect to hear from the doctors that are in charge of nina pham who has been wrought there, and they're -- brought
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♪ martha: as we mentioned moments ago, it is now confirmed that president obama has named an ebola czar, and that person is ron klean who is described as an insider. he worked for al gore, he's been around for a long time. also worked as chief of staff, i believe, for vice president joe biden. there's going to be a lot of questions. he's a lawyer and he is, as i said, a longtime inside the beltway political person here. so a lot of questions are going to be raised by this. we talked about why we would need a czar when you have a health and human services department, you have a cdc, you have a homeland security department, you have a surgeon general, you have an fda, i mean, the thousands of people in
this country who are employed by the government to oversee emergency health issues, help training in this country? the list goes on and on including the surgeon general, as i mentioned who, you know, appears on paper to be extremely well qualified to step into this position but, apparently, these folks who are already paid by the taxpayer have not been tapped. we're going to have a panel discussion on it, perhaps get carl cameron in the loop as well. bill: in the meantime, national institutes of health in bethesda, maryland, that is where nina pham is now resting and, hopefully, recovering. she's the 26-year-old nurse out of dallas that was flown to the nih late last night. and this -- yeah, we're about to get under way. dr. anthony fauci, he's the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases, he will start it off and, clearly, there are other doctors behind him. this should be very latest on what americans need to know. let's drop in right now, dr. fauci. >> dr. richard davy, director of the special clinical studies
unit here. i'm going to describe what just happened last night, and then i'm going to have the there take a minute to tell you about this building, and then we'll take questions, and i'll direct them to each of the appropriate people. last night at 11:54, nina pham, the 26-year-old nurse from dallas, texas, who the press has referred to as nurse number one, was transferred by airvac and taken by ambulance in a special, secure environment here to the national institutes of health to be admitted to our special clinical studies unit. she is now here with us, as i mentioned this morning in a release. her condition is fair. she is stable, and she is resting comfortably. in this unit we have a group of highly skilled, well trained and experienced physicians, technicians and nurses. i particularly point out the
extraordinary capability of the training, the experience and the dedication of our nurses and physicians who are taking care of her right now. i'd be happy to ask -- answer any questions that you have, but before with we do, let me just have john gallon take one minute to describe this particular place which some of you may not be familiar with, and then i'll field questions. if i can answer them, i will. if not, i will have my colleagues do that. i think something happened with the sound. >> good morning. i'm john gallon, i'm the director of the clinical center. welcome to this building which is the largest hospital in the world, totally dedicated to clinical research. our patients call this place the house of hope, and our nurses say there's no other hospital like it. and why is that? it's because of our mission to combine -- >> hold on for a second. i think there's not mics there.
>> you talking about the speaker? [inaudible conversations] >> if you can speak louder, it'd be great. >> our patients like to call this place the house of hope. our nurses say there's no other hospital like it. why? it's because of our mission, our special mission to combine research, excellent patient care and training. we feel very humbled and fortunate to be in a position to work on this international disaster ebola and to try to develop some new preventive and treatment strategies. thank you very much. >> so i'd be happy to take any questions. >> dr. fauci, her condition is
fair, you said? >> yes. right. >> has she deteriorated at all? >> no, she's not. i cannot tell you at this particular time why we have said fair, but she is quite stable and resting comfortably. >> any idea how long she might be here? >> we can to not know how long we will get her here -- we will get her here until she is well and clear of virus. >> any idea how long she might be -- >> we don't know. we never make these kinds of predictions. this is a serious infection. she's getting the optimum care, and it would be not appropriate to make a prediction of when she will get out. she will get out when she's well enough and free of virus. >> what is optimum care? can you describe what -- >> yes. well, she has the care of physicians and nurses and technicians with extensive training, experience and knowledge of infectious diseases and infectious disease control. so there are two things that are happening. she's getting optimum intensive
care if needed therapy, but it's also being done with the optimum protection of our health care workers. >> dr. fauci, i'm not sure a layperson has ever seen video of someone -- >> right. >> -- in this phase of this virus. is her presentation right now typical for this point many her virus -- in her virus? we talk about what we saw on the video last night, what she looks like. >> i'm not so sure what you saw, so i was waiting for the patient in the lobby. what was it that you want me to describe? >> you know, awake, good spirits, seemingly, you know, obviously people -- >> she also seemed very frail -- [inaudible] >> okay. all right. so i didn't see the video, but i can tell you that she had a long trip, a trip that was quite tiring. as you can see, we assisted her. she was in a stretcher with a tent over it. it's the kind of thing that is optimum protection for the people in the ambulance, and we had with her one of our intensive care physicians dressed in the appropriate
protective equipment which brought her out. when she came out, she went from the plane, and she had to walk off the plane because they wouldn't get her, but when we took her from the ambulance to the room, we had her on a stretcher, and we wheeled her in and put her right in bed. >> i guess i was asking, the video that the texas hospital released last night -- >> right. >> he said, you know, just in her environment. >> right. >> at this stage in her virus, wow is she doing compared to other people -- >> it is impossible to say how she's doing compared to others. this is an individual patient that you treat each individual patient as an individual patient. and that's what we're interested, not how she's doing compared to others. we will take care of this patient. [inaudible conversations] >> you talk about how she's interacting with her caregivers, the doctors, the nurses, is she sitting up? what is she doing? >> she certainly is sitting up. she was examined by dr. davy. we saw her this morning.
rick, would you like to just give whatever information you can give without violating any patient confidentiality? >> sure. as dr. fauci said, she's resting comfortably, interactive with the staff, she's eating, and she is able to interact freely and really think she's doing quite well compared to what we were told about her status at the other hospital. >> dr. davy or dr. fauci, can you talk more about specifics like how many people are caring for her and a little bit more why this hospital is such a good place to be treated for this kind of disease given the special training as compared to -- [inaudible] >> i'm not going to compare this hospital with other hospitals, but i can tell you what we have in this hospital. we have intensivists, we have infectious diseases experts who on a daily basis, notwithstanding ebola, take care of the sickest possible patients. we have a specific attention to infectious disease control
because the unit of which she is in is a special studies unit. rick davy, myself, dr. happy and dr. gallin are board certified in infectious diseases and in internal medicine. she also has intensive care individuals there and nurses who are highly trained, highly prepared and highly experienced. that makes a difference. [inaudible conversations] >> why did it take so long -- >> wait a second. excuse me. i'll get back to you. >> can you talk about -- [inaudible] and talk about the special equipment the facility may have? >> well, there are two, there are two shifts right now, 12-hour shifts. rick, why don't you give the details of the number. i believe there's four in one, five -- would you? >> right. currently, we have five nurses assigned on a hit -- on a shift, two are in the room with her at any time when there's a nursing necessity for that. on a given can week, we estimate an ill patient of this type may
have up to 20 nurses assigned in that week's time. >> doctor, why did it take this long for you guys to get the first ebola patient? in other words, why didn't thomas duncan come to you right away? >> you know, i cannot answer that. we have been prepared. we had a special studies unit which was started in 2011 for the explicit purpose of being able to accept patients who have anything that has to do with either bioterror or emerging infectious diseases. we stood ready to accept patient when we were asked to accept the patient, we accepted the patient. key not answer why -- i cannot answer why. i believe it's pretty obvious the man was sick in dallas, and he went to the emergency room and then to the clinic at texas presbyterian. >> do you believe once he was diagnosed we with ebola he shoud have come to the best possible place right away? >> well, again, you've got to be careful. there are more than one place that can well take care of people with ebola, so i wouldn't say this is the best possible place. i can just tell you this is a very, very good place.
>> and right now -- >> dr. a few think? >> anything you may have learned even if it's just in public perception since this ebola crisis unfolded? and when you're dealing with a patient who is herself a nurse, what is her own understanding of the illness that she's experiencing, and is she still currently symptomatic? >> i said she was in fair condition which implies that she does still have some symptoms. she is in good spirits. she's a highly intelligent, aware person who knows exactsly what's going on -- exactly what's going on, and she's a really terrific person. >> dr. fauci -- >> since this whole crisis began that might be -- [inaudible] because of what happened in dallas. >> you know, i don't want to comment, so let me just make it clear on comparing dallas to hear. to here. she's here, we're responsible for her, and that's our job. >> watching this in dallas too, is this recoverable for her? >> when you say "recoverable," in the sense of recovering?
absolutely. we fully intend to have this patient walk out of this hospital, and we'll do everything we possibly can to make that happen. >> one of the objectives here to study the virus to see if there has been changes that effect the method of transmission, and can you also speak to the capacity to handle patients like nina pham here in the u.s.? she understands -- we understand there are less than two dozen beds to handle patients like this. >> well, first of all, let me talk about this particular. again, i'm going to, i'm going to restrict my remarks to national institutes of health special clinical studies unit. here this is a research hospital. the primary purpose that we always put is the patient's welfare. associated with that, we do whatever research to teach us more to help other patients. so although she's on a research
protocol, our main concern is the health and recovery of nina. >> have you learned anything about the virus which is indicating to you that there has been mutation or changes -- >> right. >> -- that account for the very steep trajectory of the virusesome. >> okay. so i can tell you, again, i'm sorry, she came here 11:54. all of us will be up all night. we haven't learned a lot about the virus yet. we're taking care of the patient. >> dr. fauci, do you expect she'll be getting any experimental drugs, and will there be anything like that at this point as part of her care? >> i think everything is on the table to be able to consider. this will always be done, and we do this at all times with all of our patients, that whenever an experimental drug is given, it's given with the express consent of patient if, in fact, it turns out that way. >> dr. fauci, do you feel like there should be an ebola czar? is. >> that's not a question i want to answer right now.
again, i'm sorry, but i want to tell you what we do here. we don't -- this is what we do. >> and at this point is it fair to say you're screening victims and the -- >> there is no specific treatment for the ebola virus, so we are giving her the best possible care on a symptomatic and systemic basis. >> dr. fauci, in the past we've heard that taking blood from the doctors who did survive ebola could be -- [inaudible] could you explain that to us? >> yes. the question is does taking blood from dr. brantley and transfusing it into this patient, could that make a difference? the answer is absolutely, yes, it could make a difference. because dr. brantley has within his plasma antibodies against the ebola virus. it is theoretically and possibly likely, pact create through that -- practically true that that antibody had a role, but we don't know that.
i think that's one of the things i want to emphasize about this particular institution. not only do we have the patient's welfare first, but we need to learn things for other patients, so we're going to try it best as we possibly can to learn something. but the theoretical answer to your question, it certainly could have made a difference. >> you talked about there being no treatment for the ebola virus yourself. what does that involve? [inaudible] that sort of thing given fluids and that sort of thing? >> yeah. well, as you know and you've all heard, already a variety of symptoms that have to do with ebola. there's diarrhea, there's vomiting, there's fever, there's rash, and there sometimes is organ system dysfunction. whatever those, we deal with, we take care of it. but there is no specific therapy that has been proven to be effective of against ebola, and that's why excellent medical care is critical. >> has she been able to give her any insight as to how she
contracted the virus in terms of any practical moment he might recall? >> we are trying to work that out now because that is part of the issue of kinds of things we might want to learn. right now we just wanted to make her comfortable and take care of her, and when we get further information -- if appropriate -- we'll make it known. >> dr. fauci, did you guys have a role in suggesting to texas health presbyterian that she should come here? were you urging the hospital to release her? >> the answer is, no. we made ourselves available, and we accepted the responsibility. >> a lot of people are wondering she left dallas in good condition, mow yawr saying -- now you're saying she's in fair condition. >> when you get a patient and evaluate them, dr. davy was premarely involved in that, there were things we saw that we ed to make sure we didn't miss anything. you may start seeing a change in the status, so say tuned, we'll give you updates -- >> is that a precautionary move
while you're still evaluating her, or has she deteriorated? >> no. again, i want to tell you that she came in, she's stable. when we give a level, it's based on what we see, and we take care of it. it is highly likely that that will change. but she came in in the middle of the night, and for us, that was ground -- starting that point, as soon as she got into the door. >> good can spirits, can you talk about her symptoms right now? fever, anything else? >> she's very fatigued. this is a virus that really wreaks havoc on you. you can come in and be getting better, you can have decrease in diarrhea, decrease in vomiting, but you're still very, very tired. this virus knocks you out. >> would you say at this point, dr. fauci, she's sort of at the other end of virus? >> right. >> in an improvement stage or -- >> we cannot predict that. this is a very unpredictable situation. we never make predictions until we have the patient walking out and talking to you, and you can all ask her that question. we don't do that.
yes. >> i know you said you want to stick with the national institutes of health, so let me ask you this, we've learned the president will nominate ron -- [inaudible] to be the ebola czar. as the person here at national institutes of health, do you know him, and what do you think about potentially having someone else now to report to in this whole effort? >> you know, i don't know exactly what is moment by a czar, but we willinly follow the lead of the president and follow the lead of secretary burwell. >> so you don't mind having someone else to report to? >> i take care of patients, and i do my job. other people do their job. >> speculation in the medical community that this could become airborne, so your precautions here, do they include that possibility? >> there is no evidence whatsoever that this virus is airborne transmitted. everything we know about this virus is that it is direct contact with bodily fluids. you know them, we've mentioned them many times; vomit, diarrhea, blood, other body
fluids. direct contact. >> while there is no evidence do some of your precautions include that possibility? >> if you look at the protection that we have with papers and -- pappers and everything, it would include that. but we're not doing it for that reason that we think it's respiratory. we don't. we're doing that for complete covering so there is no part of our doctors, nurses or technicians' body that is exposed when they go this and see the patient. we have a very strict system of getting dressed with someone watching you, going in, coming out, getting undressed with someone watching you. we have a limited amount of time when the person can be in the room so that they don't get fatigued. that's what keeps our health care workers safe. >> two more questions. >> dr. davy, can you be more specific about why -- [inaudible] confidentiality, why she's labeled as -- [inaudible] in fair condition at this point?
>> well, you have to remember, as dr. fauci said, she's been under our care for less than 12 hours, so we are just taking a very conservative assessment at this point. dr. fauci said the situation changes or if we have more time to evaluate her, that situation may be upgraded. we'll see. >> doctor, is she considered in isolation right now in. >> oh, absolutely. >> if i can ask you this, so if she's in isolation and amber vinson is in isolation, now we hear about this third texas health care worker on a cruise ship near belize that's now been isolated, it seems as though two of the three health care workers that are in isolation took public transportation in the last couple of days, one's on a cruise ship, one was on an airplane. from your perspective, sir, with your decades of experience, for americans who may look at that and be taken aback or seem frustrated that they were allowed to take public transportation, what would you say, and would you have allowed
that to happen? >> well, i'm going to tell you something about ebola, and i'm not going to specifically answer your question about who went where on what transportation. if a person is asymptomatic and doesn't have body fluids that someone can come into contact with, that person is not infected. our person is in isolation because she has a confirmed diagnosis of ebola. she's not only in isolation, you don't want to equate isolation of an ebola person and putting someone who has not got ebola that you're observing. those are two different concepts. she is where she is because she is sick, and she needs care. >> [inaudible] how much does it cost to take care of her and what is like -- [inaudible] >> okay. this is a research hospital, and i've been at the microphone, i'm going to give dr. galli, in the
chance. everything is free -- john, why don't you explain this. >> so when i said that there's no other hospital like it, we've never billed patient for anything. we will travel them here if they need money, we will house them or their family when they're here for free. and we never send a bill. so this patient will never be charged for anything. [inaudible conversations] >> the public pays $402 million a year to run this hospital through the generous the city of the taxes. generosity of the taxes. and we manage that budget. >> dr. fauci? >> yes. [inaudible conversations] bill: so we have now the latest information on nina pham there at that press conference. large hospital in the world, well enough -- she will stay there until she's well enough and free of the virus, dr. fauci says. this is the video released last
night before she was transferred out of dallas to bethesda, maryland. she's resting, she's interactive, fatigued -- dr. fauci said that repeatedly -- after a long trip from dallas. not in good condition, but in fair condition according to the doctors. martha: wish her well. in the meantime, breaking news from the white house as president obama has named ron klain who was a former chief of staff to vice president joe biden, and he will be the new so-called ebola czar. carl cameron joins us with more on the background of mr. klain. >> reporter: for 25 years he has had inside roles in a number of administrations. he was the president's senior adviser here at the white house until recently. he was also the chief of staff of vice president joe biden. mr. klain is a lawyer, he's got -- he's got a practice here in d.c. prior to being in the obama administration, he served in the
clinton administration as then-vice president al gore's chief of staff and before that for attorney general janet reno. ron klain is a partisan and a policy wonk. he is known as a real political intellectual. went to harvard and got the highest grades in the class of 1985 and is something of a partisan. so he'll take over not as the czar. he is the -- excuse me, ebola response coordinator. the president got criticized early in his first term for aponting all sorts of czars -- appointing all sorts of czars and delegating, in many minds, too much of the responsibilities of the white house to outsiders. this is one where people on capitol hill were suggesting the president needs more help, and the public's worried the government can't handle the ebola crisis. so ron klain will come in as the ebola response coordinator, not the czar, even though folks like new york senator chuck schumer have congratulated him and said he's just the guy for the job. until this time the president
had been relying principally on lisa monaco, one of his aides on counterterrorism here at the white house. mr. klain will answer to her as well as cheryl mills, but he will coordinate all of this national and, indeed, international e ebola response. martha: yeah. well, a lot of response already flying around twitter, folks asking what qualifies him to have this role. clearly, he's well connected in politics, and we'll see where it goes. thanks for the background -- >> reporter: well, martha, it's worth noting that lisa monaco didn't have a lot of health care or health security experience, but he does know how to work the levers in complex issues. martha: thank you very much. more in a moment. we'll be right back. that's why we switched to charmin ultra mega roll. charmin ultra mega roll is 75% more absorbent so you can use less with every go. plus it even lasts longer than the leading thousand sheet brand. charmin ultra mega roll. i'my body doesn't work the way it used to. past my prime?
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so on that friday, that is the day the nurse flew from dallas to cleveland. on that sunday is the day the other nurse got on board the cruise ship and went on out to the caribbean. >> martha: we knew there was a problem at that point. bill: real time happening. martha: no clamp down on travel given all the information. "happening now" starts right now. see you monday. jon: on that score, with this fox news alert. president obama finally ready to name a so-called ebola czar, ron klain, former vice-presidential chief of staff. that is "happening now." heather: i'm heather nauert in for jenna lee. fox news learning the president will appoint ron klain as the nation's point person to handle the ebola crisis. klain is a former chief of staff to two vice presidents, al gore and joe biden. political in nature certainly. we'll talk more about tha