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stand up or stand down. we're going to have a lot more on this the fickleness of all of this, scott brown. >> hello, everyone i'm kimt's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." two days after hundreds in his police force turned their backs on him, new york city mayor bill de blasio addressed the next generation of the nypd and they got a mixed welcome at the graduation ceremony for cadets. some boos and jeers were heard amongst the applause. >> the honorable bill de blasio. >> thank you. congratulations officers. >> as for the reception de
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blasio got at the funeral for officer rafael ramos. commissioner bratton wasn't happy about it. >> i think that was very inappropriate at that point. that funeral was to offer officer ramos and to bring politics, to bring issues into that event i think was very inappropriate and i do not support it. >> bratton thinks this is a risk that will go on for some time. he also noted morale has been low for police and blames the feds for turning their backs on law enforcement. >> they really do feel under attack, rank and file officers and police leadership they feel they are under attack from the federal government at the highest levels. that's something we need to understand also, this sense of perception that becomes a reality. >> bob your thoughts? >> if you look at the number of police that were -- it was a
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relatively small number. i have been in politics for 20 years and i always found one line they came up with, and de blasio was i taught my little kid to be afraid of police. that was one that got every cop riled. the other thing about the history of new york. if i were him, and it's possible, i would go on a public relations tour. >> will it be too little, too late. >> i'm sure he's got people on his team that have told him that, how can you say that? you're the unifier, you're the mayor of the town, it's in his heart, this is how he became mayor, this is one of the things he campaigned on. he's from that old social set the old 60s, and they just don't
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like the way america is and they want to change it dramatically. dramatically. he's part of that whole culture and part of changing that is the diminished role of -- >> i'm and an arkist from to the 60s. >> the fact of the matter is that if you look at all of the demonstrations that have come up a lot of these things have been orchestrated, the irony of course, is that they became very wealthy, but still they have a resistance to it. you guys ever get a chance. read about gillette. the guy who was a socialist thing, even though he wanted to be a millionaire at the same time. i think the last two years of the presidency, they feel like they might have to strike right now or it may be too late. >> i want to ask you a question, charles. the comment that bob made the
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thing that really transcended across all lines, the color of the police force is blue. when de blasio said i told my son to be distrustful of police. >> i have a nephew who's in the new york city police department, there were a lot of black and hispanic law enforcement officers who turned their back on the mayor, along with their colleagues. it just makes the job so much harder than it has to be. no particular group wants to be defineded by one or two bad eggs that occasionally come up. i don't want a black person to rob a convenience store tonight and then some black person goes in for a job interview and they hold that against them because they watch the nightly news.
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he smeared them, he smeared them badly. >> i agree with charles, it's not really within his court, he really said what he believes, so how hard is that now to take it back and smooth it over? >> i think it's really hard for him. people have been calling for his resignation, i. what he's going to do, turn around and say i'm sorry? are you sorry for all of your policies before? i hope that mayors around the country, this isn't a new york city problem, these things are happening throughout the country. political figures are looking and saying this is the exact opposite of what we need to be doing. what de blasio just did. there should be no room for divisive rhetoric when you have this kind of -- politicians need to be stepping up and saying having no tolerance for that, bridging the gap and of course if you're a mayor you have to
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back up your law enforcement. you have to. law enforcement protects the city. if the city doesn't feel protected by law enforcement and law enforcement doesn't feel protected by the mayor, the whole thing collapses and guess who suffers? the minority communities, communities where crime is a huge problem. i don't think he can save himself. i'm really worried about new york. >> we don't want to go back in-time. >> what we're experiencing now is trickle down hostility. so is the officers are -- police officers are feeling threatened by the federal government, then minorities are being or they feel threatened by police. so in order to solve this problem, it's going to start at the top. the top has to work on it and then it will trickle down. so what we need to see from our leaders in government, especially from de blasio, is that actions are going to speak louder than words. he needs to rally behind them get behind them and push these community leaders to the
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forefront. so that he gets taken out of the focus a little bit. >> one thing about the -- before we go too far about the new york city police department, they are the finest police department in the united states. i agree with that. in the 1970s, they were the worst, the most corrupt. 75% of the vice squad was corrupt. >> you were corrupt in the 1970s. >> i was corrupt way before that, darling. >> what about 2014. >> i'm not a cop. but seriously there's been a legacy and it changed it did change, to the credit of the new york city police department. there was a time when it was just brutal. and so, some of these guys -- >> you've done a lot, bob, to build the relationships in the community outward, with the police department in neighborhoods, community policing, if want to get in this commissioner bratton has some thought us. he said that the police feel attacked by the federal government at the highest levels and rudy giuliani says the president is among those stoking racial tensions in america, and he's sticking by that. >> you said a while ago, that
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president obama contributed to a rhetorical atmosphere about hating american police. you want to recast that or take that back? >> oh, not at all. often when he's talking about police issues he had al sharpton sitting next to him. if you would like to have a poster boy for hating the police, it's al sharpton. who you associate with is part of your rhetoric. if i was talking to you about ending the mafia as i did in the 1980s or fighting the mafia, and i had joe columbo sitting with me you would say he was a big hypocrite wouldn't you? >> let's ask bob. you see it differently? >> that was one more disgraceful off the wall. i like rudy juliangiuliani but that's going way too far. i want one example of one thing he said that's not trying to heal the racial guide in this country. >> you said that you resent me. >> that is somebody that barack obama thinks is good and solid
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on race relations. and he's elevating it and holding him up. >> i stand second to nobody on this show. i have had a fistfight with al sharpton. i understand why you get upset with him. but in the black community, in the black community, they hold him up -- >> hold on hold on hold on. nobody in the black community voted al sharpton their leader. the media made al sharpton. nobody in the black community voted for al sharpton to be to the leader. let me tell you something, he is an opportunist he's a racist. you said president never said anything? >> that's the point, he's the president. >> one time after another. >> let me tell you something, he's never said anything he's allowed things to fester without intervening. he's allowing the tea party to be racist because they disagree with his policies. he's allow -- >> did you hear him stay ferguson, that there was no reason to riot.
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>> are you serious? >> i'm deadly serious. >> because it wasn't the right thing. honestly, the president of the united states you see the ferguson decision coming, you go there and you meet with the police officers involved you meet with the families involved and you don't go in there in the middle of the night. >> anything he said he's the president, anything he does is politicized. it doesn't stop him from going. he's probably on the 18th. so if he's concerned about contribute civil he certainly doesn't show it. >> why would you have that man by your side, though, if barack obama wants to talk about race relations, this is our first african-american president. i would love to see him out there and let him be that unifying force. he doesn't need al sharpton who is an incredibly dif vievisive figure. i don't want anyone in the black community to look to him and say
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he feels matters. i don't know one person who thinks that he helps matters. barack obama could easily help matters. but not al sharpton. >> that's a whole different story. >> yeah, he's on -- al sharpton was faking everything. >> he was trying to rerig -- >> i think there's an easy way to get al sharpton out of the public eye. he needs a hobby. i suggest golf. that gets obama out of the white house, right? >> well, sharpton has got a couple of great hobbies he has -- while a lot of these kids who do follow him are festering in jails and they're not even sure why all they know is that someone came in and gave a great speech and stoked their anger. >> they were shoved in -- >> i think they fly directly contradict try to the facts.
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>> you and i have had this discussion about ferguson. do i believe when you say that the evidence before that grand jury was accurate, yes, i do. in the black community in ferguson, they do not buy it. that's a perception. they don't buy it. you can argue with them all you want. >> i don't pretend to speak on behalf of the entire black community in ferguson, i believe in individual thought and i'm sure that there's people that don't feel comfortable expressing their individual opinion because of the hostile nature of the environment there that's the bottom line. but we have african-americans, whites and asians, everybody's serving on juries throughout this country. so if you disagree with the outcome, these people are bad or they're racist. there's no outcome that seems to be good enough unless there's one that's in accord with your political views. despite obama's rhetoric got race still being an issue in america, he actually thinks that america has gotten better under his watch. he said in a new interview, i
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actually think that the u.s. is probably in its stay to day interactions les racially divided, i assure you from the perspective of african-americans or latinos in poor communities who have bthis all their lives they would suggest that somehow it's worse now than it is 20, 30 years ago. >> let's get to one of the real big problems here and it's economics. i got to tell you something, what's happened with the black family over the last decade, particularly since the great depression, their assets, the value of their home completely decimated, k34r50e9completely, unattached, there's no way at all that he can honestly feel that way, even before those assassinations, that in his heart of hearts that black people feel they're better off than they were 10 years ago. i just don't see it. certainly not economically and
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a lot of other things, from their family structure and everything else. >> i think that's where some of these protests and the anger is coming from is they see the circumstances of their live and their family and whether they can get a job. i think it has less to do with a racial issue than it did where are they sitting in their life. >> when the president's response is, well, it would work if it wasn't for those mean white guys on the gop side that don't want you to do better. >> he's never said that. >> president obama's said many times. >> he has alluded to it many times. >> i r the president has said i don't know why they don't like me. >> and when you poll people and ask you ask them if race relations have improved, people say no they haven't. because i think many people have the expectation that the first african-american president was going to usher in some leadership that would help on this matter, whether that's
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justified or not, that they thought that was going to happen, but i think they're really disappointed and when he speaks up on issues as i said before, bob, on issues or whatnot. i think they're not heavily impressed impressed. i think they expect more from the president on this issue. >> when you take polls and the aftermath of ferguson and staten island, you're going to get negative ratings. >> he would have to talk about school choice, he would have to talk about economic freedom, he would have to talk about things that he doesn't like, because when you elevate black families, you elevate hispanic families and white families, everybody. he doesn't reichlike those policies. >> but you can't blame it on cost racism here, look at the nypd, racial representation phenomenal police department leading by example and what do we do? we're tearing them down.
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>> you're basement eer're blaming it on the media, and i believe that the media could be more racially sensitive. mike i think that's a good thing because he loves communications and dialogue. >> what does microaggression mean. >> coming up, another plane vanishes in the skies over asia, airasia flight 8501.
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welcome back. we turn now to the so much for yet another missing malaysian jet liner at least 15 ships and nearly a dozen aircraft were out today looking for airasia flight 8501. the plane vanished yesterday morning with 162 people on board while it was on its way to singapore from indonesia, the u.s. is actually considering
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ways to help after being asked for assistance. this is of course the second malaiseysian airliner to disappear this year. we don't know if pilot error is to blame in either case. but some pilots in this region may not where getting all the training they need. >> these airlines have a difficult time frankly filling cockpits with qualified pilots. in the u.s. we have minimums and most pilots exceed the minimums when it comes to training standards. any time you have that kind of pressure in addition to the economic pressures to, you know be competitive e it's going to be a push against safety, the two just do not go in the same direction. >> a lot of buzz words there, the push for profits suggesting not only pilots but maybe a lot of pressure in the company. don't delay any of these flights, we don't want to get
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any money back push them out, push them out push them out. what do you make of the whole thing? >> the airlines have had one of the best years they have had in a long, long time. more and more people are flying. keep in mind as we keep going to these crashes. the fact of the matter is 50,000 flights commercial take off and land in this country alone every day and nothing happens. the other thing is this airbus 320, an airbus 330, the france plane from south america to paris went down in a bad storm, and they never got a distress call either. my guess is that this guy ran into terrible weather and the plane wasn't able to take the pressure of it. and so these things happen. i mean -- and the other one, air malaysia, who knows what happened on that. but we have got to be a little careful about scaring the general flying public when in most cases -- >> your point is there are few
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crashes since the 1920s, but the fatality rate is higher so they are packing on more and more people on these planes. but it not about scaring the public, because this is something that people p want to know. because if you go down in a plane for the most part, you don't survive. >> okay, put on the vest, go down the slippery slooird, whoide, who does that? >> in america we have an amazing track record but something feels wrong. >> i think it is, more emergency training for pilots and i would like to see better satellite detection for when we lose track of a plane so we have the answers to what went on. what's really disturbing is that we still don't know where that malaysian flight s that hasn't been recovered. it takes a lot for a plane to just fall out of the air, it's got to be more than one cause,
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they have all these backups built into the plane's system so you also have human error so whether someone can adequately troubleshoot a situation in the air, which is an emergency, which is under high pressure so i think a lot more training in that regard would probably be very helpful. >> i think that's going to be the case, when we figure it all out, joe. here's the thing, at 32,000 feet, they sent out a call, we want to go to 38000 feet. then they go off radar. it seems like they were already in trouble. when you look at that weather map, why did they let them take off in the first place why didn't the pilot just make a command decision if they were in trouble. >> apparently in these areas storms can develop pretty quickly. >> i don't think it's a surprise that maybe there will be bad weather. >> his request to go higher to 38,000 was denied because their said there was another plane above. so planes are doing this a lot, maybe that's the issue that we need to tackle.
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should we not have that many airplanes taking off in bad weather. >> these are individual circumstances, we can talk about emergency training and we can talk about prevention, but i think sometimes these things do happen. yes we need to annalyze it but we're not going to find a common theme, that if we fix this one thing, this isn't going to happen anymore. >> i used to be afraid to flier. bob, if you're at 32,000 feet, and a plane goes down, it's fate. yeah, but what about the guy next to me what if he's been a bad son of a bitch. >> people that the don't have a fear of flying, when you hit turbulence, you kind of think what the heck? >> pilots want to get home to their families. >> everybody does, but i can't wait to get some answers on this. ahead on the five, a contestant makes wheel of fortune history
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with only one letter on the board and one very wild guess stay tuned for an incredible solve, that's coming up.
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when the 114th congress gavels into session in eight days, the gop will control both chambers. president obama however is here to remind his political opponents where the buck stops. at least when it comes to his legislative legacy. >> i haven't used the veto pen very often since i have been in office partly because legislation that i objected to was typically blocked in the senate even though the house -- republicans took over the house. now i suspect there's going to be some times where i've got to pull that pen out, and i'm going to defend gains that we have
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made in health care, i'm going to defend gains that we have made on environment and clean air and clean water. >> if the president single handedly makes republicans the party of no. democrats just lost big midterm elections, and here president obama, the great compromiser supposedly, and he comes out says i'm going to block stuff, i'm going to block what i don't like. good strategy or awful strategy? >> it's an awful strategy, there's been threats, threats threats, you said it makes the democrats the party of no. you can argue now that they have been masking being the party of no for a long time. because a lot of bills and the president admitted as much, haven't hit his desk. a lot of things p in the american public, people don't understand haven't come to life. and if you want to veto all the bills, if you don't want to compromise, it's not the republicans you're threatening,
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you're threatening your own party, because they had one heck of a loss in november. it's not the republicans, it's the american people and it's own party who should be really worried about these threats. >> what should republicans do? because i want to see pro active republicans,er want to see them put things on his desk that he has a really hard time vetoing. i want him to have to explain why he's vetoing things that are pro growth pro jobs. >> they should actually push forward on this because they have the meomentum, to those who much is given, much is expected. now it's time to show why voters not only made the right decision, but why voters should continue forward in 2016, this is a little bit of a litmus test, there's a lot on the line the president's all right telling you exactably what he's going to do. let him being the obstructionist let him be the veto guy but let him put forth something compelling.
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you have to say look let's push through, let's go the pipeline let's do things that make sense,a actually everyone can support, in fact push forward immediately things that have bipartisan support. >> lindsay graham said if we don't at least make a down payment in solving the problem and rationally dealing with the 11 million people in the country illegally, if we become the county party of self deportation in 2015 and 2016, then the chance of winning the election is -- pro immigration reform. how do they handle this? >> the fact is the republican cannot win the country if they only have the hispanic vote. cannot, it's impossible. the thing about president -- he speaks spanish, his brother did 45% of the hispanic vote. that would be a real problem for us. and by the way, the party of no
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i mean this is the same -- the new majority leader mitch mcconnell who has famously said in 2010 my job is to ensure that barack obama doesn't get elected for a second term. that's the party of no that's the party of a bunch of white dudes that have nothing especially to stay. >> bob, that's not a nice statement, it's also borders on -- >> i tell you what, first of all, you should ski how many nonwhite dudes were elected in november. and wait until you see how many nonwhite dudes are going to run for president. >> and women. >> let's face it before that it was a party of in the congress of white men. now leaving that aside, here's something that needs to get done. obama's putting the gamut -- he doesn't want to veto anything they are going to get a deal on trade, they're going to get a deal on tax. republicans need it. they need it much worse than
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obama does as far as democrats are concerned, we hope they continue to use all their words about hispanics and we win the country. the republicans need that, obama needs that. i think there is going to be a corporate tax deal put together. >> i want to ask you about jeb bush, because recent cnn poll has jeb bush at the p top. immigration may be a part of that. jeb bush is going to face a lot of trouble from conservatives, i don't know how he's going to do getting out of a primary. do you think he should make immigration an jewish? is conservatives say this is a reason we don't want to vote for you. >> i don't think it will hurt him on the race. it's not a big issue for people the fact that he doesn't lie completely on the right on that issue. i think jeb bush looks great, he's lost a little bit of weight. i think he's 2ke89 getting ready.
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i think as long as the gop doesn't stone wall obama u if they do a little bit of give and take, then that can't be used as ammunition in 2015. >> history tells us that we have one party in control of the white house, and one in control of the congress, some of the best legislations in the past. >> we're going to see if you u're right. we all know who the person of the year is and the most fascinating, whobut who is the most admired of 2014. we'll find out next. in my world, wall isn't a street... return on investment isn't the only return i'm looking forward to. for some every dollar is earned with sweat, sacrifice, courage. which is why usaa is honored to help our members with everything from investing for retirement to saving for college. our commitment to current and former military members and their families is without equal. start investing with as little as fifty dollars.
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is there a person you admire most in this world? the results are in from gallup's annual survey. and the majority of americans have once again picked hillary clinton and president obama as the woman and man they sad mire most in 2014. clinton's retained the title for
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134 straight years. president obama's straight year topping the list. he's followed by the pope, bill clinton, reverend billy graham and george w. bush. okay, charles. what do you make of this gallup poll? like do we really need this? >> i thought "people" magazine did this poll. >> no, that's sexiest. >> no wonder hillary won. >> that's the one i want. >> but really it's like, do they do these polls in high schools? are they really speaking to adults? it doesn't speak very well of the american public that they have a handful of people that they know in politics that they're supposed to admire and they kind of toss them out there. >> are these just the most recognizable names not necessarily admirable? >> it's like hillary and oprah it's names that everyone knows. >> it's like the queue cards. >> you know what's really interesting, obama is at the top of the list but the approval
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numbers are so low, it doesn't match up. >> no offense to mr. gallup and the family. we're going to go around the circle and see what the five think, the five's most admirable admirable. >> to the united states military and armed forces, hands down, so proud of them, admire them so so much and the sacrifice they make day in and day out only to come home to a veteran's affairs administration that's a mess. i tell you this weekend, i saw the movie american sniper and i had the pleasure to meet chris kyle amazing too. very nice military film and you see what he did when he came back he actually spent time working with veterans who had post-traumatic stress syndrome and the like. >> mine would be the doctors and nurses without borders who went to west africa and worked with ebola patients.
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i think it takes a tremendous amount of courage and also charles. >> charles what about you? >> a guy named alfred man he was born in 1925 his father was a grocer he started 17 companies as a billionaire, he's given away $23 million. after 20 years got fda approval of inhaled insulin. and there's another one that went public this year, second sight that will bring sight to the blind. this is what american entrepreneurship is all about. this is not just stuff that's going to help people in this country, but around the world. it's why people out there should never give up on this country, no matter who's the president or how bad things get. >> i was going to pick my parents. hi, mom and dad. but i picked pope francis and the reason is that he challenges bureaucracy, i think he's a real reformer, he's not afraid to
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point out -- he talks about gay marriage, he's really not afraid to upset the waters. >> the most admirable person, it is greg gutfeld. he's a promoter of animal rights especiallily unicorns and he today me an awesome amount of money to pick him. so greg, thank you. i think we all -- >> way to stimulate the economy. >> he never goes out of his way he goes to the same bar, he has the same set of anxieties. >> drinks the same red wine. >> he's a hero to america. >> we have some football to talk about as the super bowl of 2015 nears. it's black monday, is your favorite coach in or out next season? find out coming up.
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yesterday was the conclusion of the nfl's regular season.
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12 teams will vie for a chance to go to the super bowl. today is also known as black monday, around the league as some of the coaches who didn't lead their teams to the playoffs will not be around in 2015. among them rex ryan of the jets and jim harbaugh a surprise of the 49ers, also fired one chicago bears head coach mike tristan and mike schmidt, it's a short tenure in the nfl if you don't win? >> it is absolutely. and it's probably also in many ways one of the greatest examples of -- it's very simple you win, you keep your job, you lose your don't. but harbaugh has been extraordinarily successful. but when it became known that he wasn't going to stay, that was the end of him. even when they were a bad team,
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so something went wrong there between him and the owners it's all about merit if you win, you can enjoy it and you make mill monnons and if you don't win, someone's going to come in. >> $8 million a year, michigan. >> that's what he made in college. >> in the niners are totally going to regret that, jim harbaugh was an incredible coach for the 49ers. the problem is they said he's known for being kind of difficult, so what? there's so many great coaches in informal football, has been a little bit rough around the edges, like bill parcel, and rex ryan, are you going to talk about him? great defensive mind. >> look at you, the expert loves football.
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>> kimberly can do it all. >> who do i like. >> well, i called my dad, if you're going to ask that, he said that the seattle seahawks are going to do it again. >> i'm just curious if a team gets rid of a head coach and a general manager at the same time, what does that do to the team? does that have an impact? >> the team already sucks, so it doesn't really matter. >> we're not really free to -- >> you got to have great players to win a game. i think that's been a charge for rex ryan, at least. >> i think he's an amazing defensive minded coach. >> absolutely. >> and i don't know that he's ever really put it together. >> could you tell us who's going to be in the super bowl. >> easy, it's going to be to the broncos and the hawks. the blackhawks. no, i have no idea, i'm just
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very happy that this year -- >> during playoffs and the super bowl i will not be bartending, so really that is the greatest gift of all. >> i happen to agree with you, about the seattle seahawks but i think the denver broncos are going to upset the patriots again. >> i love to see payton get one more. but i think he blew it last year, and they just look a little rough. seahawks have momentum i hate them, my daughter loves them. >> the last time he was in the super bowl she had tears in her eyes. >> the nfl will have a got super bowl this year they have had a rough year, one more thing is up next.
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we're back and it's time for one more thing. bob, what do you have to contribute? >> i just want to point out that unemployment rate is 5.8%. we added 320,000 jobs in one month and more than that we had
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a quarterly growth rate of 5.0. the republicans have flaunted the obama recovery is back, it's strong, it's a little late, but it's there. . >> charles, you have a quick rejoinder rejoinder? >> rex ryan said the same thing when he said our record is 4 and 10, but we won the last game. >> i have an amazing clip for you, check it out. >> you don't have a toss up this one is worth 2,000, and the category is character. >> matt. >> the lone ranger? >> yes. >> i'm never going to do this
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again, i'm going to keep buzzing. >> how amazing is that? i don't love wheel of fortune, because i'm no good at it. but my mom is totally amazing at it. two army soldiers supposed to get married in hawaii at the kaneohe golf course, they got a call and said, hey you got to move your wedding. however, president obama did the right thing, i don't think he was aware of that situation when he became aware of it. he called them, wished them all the best, they're so excited and they're delighted that the president gave them the call. so i think that's very nice. >> survey's in, the worst celebrity neighbor of 2014 is? anyone guess? anyone guess? justin bieber i think it's well deserved, with all the partying and the eggs.
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although i wouldn't ask for flour from him. >> he's got his own 5ir7airplane. >> i think the best neighbor is no neighbor. >> charles? >> christmas i spent with my grandkids for the first time 1-year-old jonathan my 2-year-old cassidy the kindest heart. there she is with our three york i cans, also this christmas, my wife celebrated by lighting the minora for a 22-year-old girl. celebrate life, yes. >> real quick, if you haven't p had enough of me, you can check me out on greta tonight. i'm in for my buddy, 7:00 p.m. eastern. thanks for being here. >> you have some nice guests. >> yeah, amazing, nice to have you back. that's it for us because what's
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next, bob? >> special interests. "special report" with bret baier. i'm ed henry in for bret baier, and this is a fox news alert. as dawn breaks over indonesia's capital, search crews are gearing up for an intense search. the singapore bound airbus a 320 who vanished in some storm clouds without issuing a distress call. 162 people were on that plane. and now fears are being rekindled as people worry about how safe the airline industry is. senior senior. >> reporter: a desperate search for missing airasia flight 8501


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