tv Your World With Neil Cavuto FOX News February 11, 2015 1:00pm-2:01pm PST
president and nelson mandela was finally free. 25 years ago today. when news breaks out we'll break in because breaking news changes everything on fox news channel. the dow's finishing mostly flat on a session that was mostly down. stay tuned, news continues. they're barbarians and i think the barbarians were at the gate. it's possible that there areeater numbers of foreign fighters and potentially greater numbers of individuals from western countries and the united states who have traveled to the conflict zones. >> there is a number that we don't know about. the ones we know about the numbers of foreign fighters that have returned from syria from the conflict zone every single one of those is a predicated fbi investigation run on a joint terrorism task force. >> we know they're fighting with isis, we don't know how many could be back here right now fighting us.
that assessment today by intelligence officials at a house hearing on countering violent islamic extremism. mike emanuel in washington following the hearing and the threat we are apparently facing big time. >> hi neil. a serious tone was set on by the chairman of the homeland security committee and danger close to home. >> in more than 150 citizens have attempted to or succeeded in getting to the battlefield and we know that some of them have already returned to our shores. >> reporter: a big challenge for those in relevant intelligence agencies and others responsible for protecting the homeland tracking those with american or friendly western ally passports. >> dhs is increasing efforts to track those who enter and leave syria and may later seek to travel to the united states without a state department issued visa. the terrorist threat is dynamic
and those who operate individually as a part of a terrorist organization will continue to challenge our security measures and our safety. >> reporter: for those protecting the united states homeland, there is a critical mission to stop those who have gone overseas, who try to return home, or those who have been radicalized by slick propaganda. >> we estimate upwards of 150 americans have traveled or attempted to travel to syria to join extremist groups. while this number of small in comparison to the number of european travelers we must also consider the influence groups like isil have on individuals located in the united states who are inspired to commit acts of violence. >> reporter: even after months of air strikes on isis targets throughout syria and parts of iraq, there was a growing sense this isis threat, this cancer continues to spiral out of control. neil? >> all right. michael, thank you. in the meantime paris and australia and ottawa, new york,
city we've seen what these radical islamic extremists can do and are still trying do. in australia police just foiling what they say was an isis inspired plot, seizing a machete, homemade flags, you name it. same thing could happen here. two-part question, jonathan the obsession with machetes and knives, what is that about? >> this is a great question. i'll tell you what this leads to. we are not looking at isis. we're not looking at al qaeda. we're not even looking at radical islam which we call it. we're looking at fundamental mohammadism over 1,000 years old. the same tactics and techniques they used 1,000 years ago but now they have technologies that they can also use twitter airplanes -- >> when you bring a hatchet into a place like new york city the case a couple months back, where a guy attacked two cops you start wondering, well, what's the pattern here? >> well the reaction was the
same then that it's going to be now. when somebody gets hit with a hatchet it's a very traumatic experience for the community around there. >> yeah. >> that was then, this is now. now it's not just ten people that saw it in the local square. now you're looking at hundreds of millions of people across the world seeing that and in the united states, we're not prepared for that. even though we've had these, you know, attacks and 9/11 and boston even the lady getting beheaded in oklahoma, the government is not preparing the citizenry to react to these things. >> to what end? you're not alarming anyone just to bring it to the attention and educate them what to do if something awful happens. >> i've been on your show quite some time and talking about the same thing, been on fox two years talking about this and i can go back as far as ten years ago when i was a contractor working with homeland security going all over the country telling people you need to secure your malls, your tall buildings, your stadiums and
arenas, teaching your people if you see something say something. they didn't used to have that in new york city. that was a big step forward. but we have been talking about this, the experts in the field that think unconventionally talking about this for years back to 1979. >> it's always been your contention for as long as i've been talking to you, a lot of nefarious elements are here, american born, forget about the ones we're trying to track and fly off to syria, 100 that have done it or tried it a good many are already here how do we sniff them out? >> well, we can't. law enforcement can't do it all. i can't say this enough you know, the people have to start realizing what's normal and not. islam has to realize. i say they should police themselves. but they have to realize, if it starts to get out of hand people are going to turn on them. they're going to turn on them with violence and islam needs to realize that. if it guessets bad enough they will
become victims as well. >> i think they want them. >> some of them do and some don't. those that don't need to realize and step up to the plate. here's big thing about these people traveling over. one person can travel there and come back and learn how to fight and teach ten people. that's easier than having ten people come over here and infiltrate into this country. that's a real problem. >> very good point. >> we don't talk about the people coming over here to train these operatives that are inspired inside this country. >> they've already trained them. >> or that have already trained them. we're reactive. no longer active. >> jonathan gillen, thank you very much. good seeing you again. >> in the meantime we keep dropping bombs on isis and syria and iraq but the foreign fighters keep flowing in to jonathan's point. 20,000 in the latest count 3400 from western countries including as many as 150 from just the u.s. that may have reached the syria war zone. wayne simmons says bombs alone will not be able to stop any of this or that. why not wayne? >> well, neil what we know and
you've pointed out we've had 3400 terrorists now that are pouring in from western europe 150 at least from the united states, they've examine -- they're coming from as far as china through central asia subsaharan africa, morocco, tunisia, virtually every country in the middle east and when you talk about a siv where there are no repercussions cautions for or no aggressive actions taken against foreign fighters they will continue. they are inspired. they are inspired because there are not enough being killed. what does that mean? seven sordes a day with bombs are to the going to do the trick. remember back in -- at desert storm we had 3,000 sordes a day 3,000, compared to maybe 200,
maybe 7. i mean you cannot win it neil -- >> you long argued we need the proverbial boots on the ground but the president just a little more than half hour ago seemed to rule that out. this from the president. >> resolution we've submitted today does not call for the deployment of u.s. ground combat forces to iraq or syria. it is not the reauthorization of another ground war like afghanistan or iraq. >> he seems to have ruled that out. >> yeah. and i must tell you, neil that's the only good thing that i heard out of that entire exercise that he came up and gave us. there was no strategy. it was proverbial lie after lie after lie. >> what was good? what was good in it? >> the only good thing he said we're not putting boots on the ground. why is that good? those who know me know i am to the right of attila the hun. i want to locate the enemy, go kill them. this president does not. he is half committed, he is not
100% committed. >> so you think if we put boots on the ground or soldiers they would be in great danger. lindsey graham was here with me yesterday saying we need at least, he's getting his recommendation from generals and the like from guys like you, to do it effectively, assuredly, you're going to need 10000 soldiers. do you agree with that do you think he's being conservative? generous? what. >> well look first of all i'm not a military planner. i'm an intelligence guy. i would tend to agree with senator graham. i have no beef with that number. i would suggest that if we can put 20,000 in there to do the job, do it. but what i'm saying, neil, is more importantly, what we just heard, was a lot of gobbledy gook from a president who has no strategy. i did not hear one thing about how we were going to wins this war, end this war other than it's going to be over in three years. he has a propensity to continue
to tell the enemy that this is how long it's goings to last, and that does nothing but put -- we're not spending -- listen neil we're spending $496 billion fiscal year '15 at the pentagon. plus another $40 billion for what we guest mate it is a guess, on the war against isis. so we're going to go to the american people and then we have -- we have contingency operations, which is another $58 billion, so let's go to the american people with no strategy and ask them to spend another $100 billion to fight isis. never going to happen. we can't afford it. more importantly neil i don't want one more drop of american blood shed for a president with no strategy and no end game. it's pure politics, pure horse -- >> all right. you had me worried there. i thought you were going to finish the rest of the horse
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♪ ♪ i haven't looked at staples stock lately or what the compensation of the ceo is, but i suspect that they could well a afford to treat their workers favorably and give them some basic financial security and if they can't then they should be willing to allow those workers to get the affordable care act without cutting wages. when i hear large corporations that make billions of dollars in profits trying to blame our interest in providing health insurance as an excuse for cutting back workers' wages shame on them. >> who that have been perfect with the theme from "the godfather" underneath.
really? never mind staples saying it's not cutting hours due to obama care and the president doesn't have all his facts, is this singling out of a company by the president over the top. kelly and tracy say shame on him. jessica says the president is right. so jessica, to you first, you think he makes a good case. >> i think he makes a good case, not against staples, because the numbers don't bear it out and that's a mistake and shouldn't have happened. >> details. >> exactly. but the general point, i stand by the president with that. companies, they don't want to pay for health insurance for their employees, a lot of them. people are scaling people to be part-time workers, hiring contractors that they are going to have to cover for health insurance and that's what the president is making. >> the irony staples does provide health care to those workers and those part-time workers, but be that as it may why staples? >> there's so many things intrinsically wrong with this. staples policy has been 25 hours all along. they never said it had anything
to do with obama care. the president is crazy to think the corporations are to the looking at the costs and how it is affecting their bottom line and the notion the president thinks he can control how companies hire and fire is a bigger bigger enigma to me. it is none of his business. >> if they weren't providing health care at all i might argue he could make the point but they do. >> i think it's odd that the president is tougher on staples and fat cat bankers than he is with isis. i mean -- >> that's true. >> this guy relishes beating up on american corporations. he has none of the same zeal when he goes after terrorists who cut people's heads off. that would be one thing. president obama is a lawyer. allegedly a constitution a.m.al lawyer. head of the harvard law review. he doesn't understand the notion of fiduciary responsibility. staples, i don't necessarily believe their b.s. about this is obama care related, i bet it is. >> thank you. >> but -- but.
>> they have that right. >> not just a right but a duty -- >> the moral responsibility to take care of your employees. >> but they are. they are taking care of them. >> i would like to move the conversation past staples if we can accept that is a responsibility. >> do you understand fiduciary responsibility. >> what is it? >> don't talk down to her. >> you're saying they make money but that's a right. they also have an obligation to shareholders. >> the president doesn't know what fiduciary responsibility is. he's a lawyer and doesn't know that when you increase the cost if you keep the corporate tax rate higher than other countries, keep a mandate on corporations, they are going to do stuff to maintain their margins because under u.s. corporate law that's what they're supposed to do. >> we've seen this -- >> staples did give us a statement. unfortunately the president appears not to have all the facts. our policy regarding hours for part-time employees is more than a decade old predates the affordable care act by several years. it's unfortunate the president is attacking a company that
provides 85,000 jobs and is a major taxpayer. does make a good point. more than 35,000 are part-time workers. you would think they're not getting any health care. the company is providing health care, just not meeting the president's standard of health care. >> but i think -- >> why is he doing this? >> to make a larger point. i mean, the idea that he doesn't care about isis, he just asked for authorization today, right, for more. >> took two people -- four people getting their heads cut off. >> but on this, do you think he picks and chooses his corporate enemies because he just had tim cook at the white house and tim cook makes all those iphones in asia. >> i don't think it looks great. >> we've seen it before, applebee's, papa john's all laying off because of obama care. >> i think charlie is right. staples trying to hide behind 259 hour policy obama care is a reason. it's got to be. >> all these companies have to, you know, tow the corporate line. they're going to say it has nothing to do with it. if you tell me a company will
not react by cutting jobs, cutting wages, cutting hours when they're faced with increased mandates from obama care highest corporate tax rate -- >> what do you think they make billions in profits when in fact some are chosing 200 stores and merging with office depot. >> what does the president think? companies make money. they make profit. the more profits they make, the more -- >> it's not philanthropic. >> apple making trillions upon trillions, i'm an apple shareholder, that's fine by me. >> and market share is almost $1 trillion right now. the biggest company in the world. >> what i'm saying, you can't -- you have to be fair and balanced about this. >> absolutely. >> if you have a problem with one company, you a problem with all the companies that might or might not be towing your health care line. >> i don't think that the president has been clearcut on this but there is a drain on american businesses when they have to provide health care but also a huge drain on the federal budget and the deficit. >> the point that staples does.
>> right. but i think we need to really move past staples. i'm totally -- >> it's one of the few companies ironically that does. >> yes. in that sense this was a huge mistake. i looked at the numbers and it goes well before 2008. >> give him a post-it. >> but isn't the bigger point it's none of his business? >> little condescending but i admire this. >> go ahead. >> i love post-its, neil. >> sure. >> isn't the bigger point he shouldn't be in corporation -- he shouldn't be in the board room. it's not his place. >> he's not in the board room. he's the president. >> who's hiring or firing. >> he would not be the first president to jawbone to get his way. >> listen i think presidents have been, you know, playing popt pew lus card for many years. >> they have the pull pit. >> and i don't have a problem with that but he takes it to another level. to attack a company for -- listen we're not talking about citigroup, by the way, which nearly destroyed the u.s. economy, who now employs -- who had employed his former treasury
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. as if this group can't get horrible enough isis is starting military families. at first it was a warning for my next guest. it has since become real. her name is lori and this is part of the message that was sent by isis sympathizers to her facebook account. i quote here. while your president and your husband are killing our brothers
in syria, iraq and afghanistan, we're coming for you. you think you're safe but the i.s. is already here. we know everything about you. your husband and your children and we're much closer than you can even imagine. now just think of what this woman already has to deal with. and her clear angst just dealing with what any military family would have to deal with and military wife. the fbi is investigating. navy wife lori isn't hiding. very good to have you. sorry under these circumstances. when did you first find out about this and when did you first notify authorities? >> well yesterday i received a message from a friend letting me know to change my passwords because a friend of ours' twitter account had been ha kd and soon after that i received a twitter message in my first and last name, which obviously was shocking, from these so-called isis sympathizers.
i actually received a call from the fbi after that happened i would say a few hours later. >> so you didn't notify the fbi. the fbi eventually got to you to say this was going on. i know you can't divulge what they're saying but were they worried to the extent this seems to be happening to other military spouses and families? >> as you can imagine they wanted to know if i had some good contact information for the other people involved. >> sure. >> and received similar messages. but other than that they were really concentrating on facts at this point. i didn't get any feedback. >> now, obviously your account was hacked, but they knew what and who to hack down to who you knew and where you were and where your family, heryour husband was that's creepy if not scary. >> yeah. to be clear only one account was hacked and they used that account to have messages with the rest of us. none of my accounts were
actually hacked into, which i did verify, so that created a sense of security for me after the fact. but my initial reaction was very -- i was very shocked and scared. military families are trained to receive bad news and think it through the logic and especially military spouses have a way of holding that emotion in, especially when their children are present. this all happened in the morning when i was getting my children ready for school. so after i dropped them off, i made sure to take a side trip to my principal's office to notify him in the offchance he should be aware and at that moment that my children weren't with me that i realized my hands were shaking and i was holding back tears. that shock didn't happen for me until my children were out of the picture. >> a lot of hacking experts i talked to, ones using -- going through you to get the message to others or vice versa, is that they want to, obviously scare
the hell out of the people getting the message but their loved ones their loved ones that might be fighting abroad to give them pause, make them think twice to do pretty much as they did after this brutal burning to death of this jordanian pilot, to make other pilots think twice about flying sordes over isis strong points. what do you make of that and the warped message they're sending? >> well obviously the fact that they used my first and last name was meant to be personal and strike that fear not just in me but other military spouses to not use their names. but once we started looking at some of the facts, including the fact that, you know none of my systems were actually compromised, once i started putting two and two together you would not believe the outpouring of support that was happening behind the scenes on-line from military families that i received. the it was amazing to see how if the intent was fear the actual result of all of this was to really solidify people's resolve. i had people --
>> the proof of that is you being here right now obviously. others would have had some reserve, not you. why are you talking to me? i'm very happy to have you but it shows guts. >> well i think on the -- for one thing, you know, my name is already out there. i've been involved with some nonprofits and some grassroots organizations and my name my writing and my family's names are out there. one thing about military families on-line existence, as many of us have realized you can shut it down know but those of us that have public personas there's not a way to erase history. so if we can be a voice and encourage military spouses and families to have no fear over this situation, then we'll know that, you know, they're not winning at this game. >> you're a remarkable young woman and mom, lori to put it mildly. it is crazy, but you do remind people here for no other -- think about military spouses and their families what they have to go through especially now with
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the president says his new plan to defeat isis is worth the risk but west virginia senate democrat joe manchin questions whether we'll see any reward. senator, good to have you. thank you for coming. >> good to be with you, neil. >> i notice more opposition on the part of democrats to this than i do republicans. in fact, republican senator jeff flight went to say our enemies and allies need to know we speak with ones voice. you're not part of that one voice, why not? >> here's the thing neil we already have the 2001 aumf which president bush and now president obama has interpreted to be pretty wide open about do anything you want to to fight terrorism, anywhere anyway in the world. we don't touch someone. it's still in place.
this is for 2002 we repeal. the new aumf directd at isis. i do not wish to repeat the occupation ground war that we have had. i've said this, if military might or money would have changed that part of the world we would have done it by now. we would have given over 6,000 americans' blood and treasure of our lives and soldiers committed ourself, and it seems they continues to just be in turmoil. and to put more americans in jeopardy jeopardy, what we need to do is make sure we are able to help them enengage, whether the jordanians we've seen them engage in a stroopgng way now the kurds in a strong way, hopefully getting the iraqi army back up to engage and do a better job. we need the turks to get involved. we need the saudis to get involved. >> how would any of this, senator, deflect from that or move away from that? because the president has already made it very clear look i'm not for sending in ground troops.
there are a lot of republicans who are against that and maybe other democrats, i haven't had a pecking order breakdown here but i know the fear seems to be that we have sort of like an afghanistan do whatever you want, mr. president, was the big bane of the whole george bush experience and you're looking for something more tempered. but is it your fear that, not the powers you give to this president, but the powers you give to his successor? is that's what's goingen on? >> i have no fear of that. i think we ought to be direct. we will not put our combat troops on the ground to fight your fight for you over there. we will give you the technical support you need but you have to engage. the jordanians are engaging. >> the president seemed to intimate, senator, the language is already in this document to that effect. you, obviously, had a chance to look at it and say it's not. >> enduring ground troops what does that mean? in here that's very evasive, if you will to be
interpreted in so many ways. >> he's a lawyer. >> well i'm not. >> okay. >> so common sense speaks to me and people in west virginia and right now we don't want to repeat what we've done. we understand the definition of insapenity, continue to try what we've done, didn't work, get caught in with 10,000 troops on the ground and three years is up and at sunset think we're going to pull them out? i don't think so. we will do whatever it takes to continue to support our troops. i'm just saying that you need ground ops, you need special ops, i'm okay with that and definitely okay with air support. but they're going to have to fight their ground war. >> 10,000 to you is too much? >> 10000 for this war in syria when we don't know which direction we're going. >> targets isis how about 1,000 troops? >> we have troops there. we have troops there now. >> use the kurds use some of these other groups but don't use ours. >> no. they're going to have to fight. they're going to have to fight for their own territory. the bottom line is we're going to defend america. these people wish to do harm and
killing each other right now. they want to do harm over here and come after us, we will do whatever it take. >> jordans a king abdullah says we're taking the fight to them but we could use your help doing it. >> we're giving them help and we're going to fast track getting equipment to them getting weapons that they need into it's not too fast, whatever goes in washington, it's not happening fast. >> neil last week, under john mccain, we were in the meeting all of us signed the letter to start fast tracking from the state department so they don't hold jordan up with getting the weapons they need and the fuel they need, everything they need to fight this battle. the kurds also. >> senator man chin, thank you very much. >> thank you neil. >> all right. point, click, hey, if uncle sam gets his way surfing the web could drown your wallet.
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values. >> not to expect government to be the solution to our problems. >> did you ever run for president? >> i appreciate you bringing it up. >> the reason the most talked about names for 2016. >> one thing that unites americans they think washington is messed up and i join them. >> are talking to neil. >> it's been very slow to move things forward. there have been financial -- >> aren't we prolonging the agony. >> not willing to say this is the issue we're willing to fight to the end what issues are we willing to do that on. >> 13 years and counting, neil cavuto, number one in news this hour, number one in business period. >> i continue to seriously consider it. >> you must have a problem getting guests today. thank you, neil always great. >> you're watching "your world." >> meanwhile going on line you better go for your wallet. a new plan from the head of the federal communications commission might create new internet taxes an fees. the head of the commission says no but it is creating headaches for this guy. something that he is not happy
about at all, one of the fcc commissioners. sir, very good to have you. >> good to be here. >> as you know chairman said that will not be the case, that fees will not go up. you argue having gone through this whole 320 some odd page report they likely will. why? >> because based on my review of this monstrous document, which i did review over the past several days, what i can tell you is that it represents a monumental shift towards government control of the internet. it is going to increase consumer's broadband bills, reduce their competitive options, he create a haven for trial lawyers looking for class actions to file and ultimately harm the internet echo system. that's why i've called for this plan to be made public so the american people can see it for themselves before the fcc votes on it. >> chairman wheeler said the guy that decides this, he is not going to be making it public. has he given a reason why? >> he says the traditional practice of the fcc is not to
release these proposals before the fcc votes on it. that's true for the run of the mill items. but this is anything other than a run-of-the-mill item. this is massive issue that has consumed a great deal of public attention over 4 million people have commented and an unprecedented fashion the president of the united states himself directed the fcc in early november as to what he wanted the agency to do when it came to net neutrality. if ever we were going to make an exception to the rule it should be this one because if you ask the average person on the street, do you think that the american people should see a 332 page plan to regulate the internet before the fcc votes on it they say, of course. so do i. >> when you say net neutrality i want to stick syringes in my eye but you're the expert. what you fear, it's a justifiable fear, i know where you're coming from, it would grant the fcc the authority to determine whether prices are just and reasonably than has the authority to address those areas where they're not just.
now the knee-jerk reaction would be oh, okay this is too much a charge here but you could easily flip it around the other way these people are getting away with murder here if we don't institute a charge. right? that's your fear? >> well, that is my fear, that rate regulation is something that we use to regulate the rail roads in the 19th century ma bell in the 20th century, buts the solution to the digital age is more competition not more regulation. this just takes us down a road that we've tried before in the past and if we regulate the internet economy as if it were a monopoly, a monopoly is what we're going to get and that's not something i think anybody wants. >> you would be for -- i mean these guys the internet service providers who deliberately slow down traffic or stop service, because that stuff has gone on, might still go on you wouldn't be against the government slapping them doin down when they try to pull that crap? >> well to the contrary. if you look at anything in this document, what you'll see is
that the fcc never identifies any systemic problem like that. there's a lot of hypotheticals -- >> it mentions it so it must be happening or am i just trusting the government too much. >> i think just wait until you get under the hood of this one. a few isolated examples that the document cites from 2005 -- >> your theory we're going to be paying for stuff on the internet, we don't pay now, this is the trojan horse gateway. >> not only that going to be paying more but the fcc will micro manage the service plans you have. for example, the agency says that under a broad internet conduct standard they might outlaw say t-mobile's music freedom offering which lets consumers stream music to their smart devices without counting against their data caps. you're telling the consumers what service plans they're allowed to have is something i think the agency should be doing. >> all right. commissioner thank you very much. >> great to be with you. >> steering us through this. drone meet plane.
well, watch out for that drone, and i mean literally. trace gallagher on a major flight fright. trace? >> reporter: neil, the southwest airline jet was on final approach to l.a.x. and the plane or pilot spotted the unmanned drone about 4,000 feet, which is very high for a drone considering federal law prohibits them from flying above 400 feet and they cannot be within five miles of an airport. the pilot then radioed the tower saying, "hey, there was just one of those radio-controlled helicopter things that went right over the top of us at 4,000 feet." the controller says over the top of you at 4,000? roger that. the pilot responds, "one of those remotely piloted deals." gotcha gotcha.
a drone says the controller with the pilot say "yep little bitty one red in color." this happened 6 krp 20 sunday evening. 35 minutes before that my producer was on venice beach a few miles north of l.a.x. when he spotted this drone with red lights flying south toward the airport. we have no idea if it's the same drone, but this unmanned aircraft was also breaking the law by flying too close to an airport. experts say it highlights a growing problem that drones could pose to commercial aircraft, not that a drone could take down a 737 but if they get caught in one of the engines it could be disastrous. and over the past five years the faa says there have been more than 200 incidents across the country of drones flying way too close to airports. neil? >> that's a close call to me, trace. thank you very much. trace gallagher. all right. to aviation security expert michael lloyd who's saying get ready for more of this sort of stuff. i guess, michael, we've said this before, because there are more of these things, right?
>> oh, yeah. i mean they go from little toy size all the way up to almost predator size. we're working with a company in france that has one that could carry a 70-pound load, which is perfect for like doing research and mapping and things like that. the challenge we have here is if this gets out of control, the faa is going to do a knee jerk and we'll all lose what drones bring. we have to have some control and some idea of how we manage them. i think the best way of doing that is finding basically having them registered in some way. other than, that i can guarantee you the faa is going to come out with something draconian that will be worse than the problem. >> maybe because people are either ignoring the rules that are already on the books. i don't think these things can fly higher than 400 feet as it is and can't be within five miles of an airport. but oftentimes they're either or both. >> well, i think many times, you know, the channel that supplies these to people doesn't advise them of that. i saw one over that las vegas strip a couple weeks ago.
that's five miles of mccaren international. a lot of people running that don't know that. but another challenge is we'll have to look at what can be done with these. as i've said these are the poor terrorist cruise missiles. so we have to look at how we handle and manage them. the best way is finding out who owns them and having them registered. no weier getting around it. >> they might start innocently enough, it could be a dad and his son, one flies out of control and gets close to an airport, close to a plane and, you know, sucked into an engine. eve an plane just trying to dodge it could lead to problems. right? >> absolutely. you know, it doesn't take much to bring an airplane down. these things are effectively they're flak and they did well during world war ii. the reality is we've got to get some rules. the faa is comatose, can't do anything. >> hopefully they'll get on top of this. it is happening a lot. michael boyd. get ready far little
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not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted. was that you jason? it was geoffrey! it was jason. it could've been brenda. this is a warning to all you companies that make a profit -- the president wants it or at least isn't keen on you having it especially if you have a lot of it and doubly especially if you aren't doing the kind of things he wants you to do with it, like prohealth care for your workers. the president said staples is deliberately gouging its employees while forcing so many to work part-time so the company doesn't have to offer them coverage. the thing is there's no proof. in fact, staples has the same percentage of part-time workers now has it had back in 2008, years before the affordable care act came into being.
and the president may think that staples has the dough billions, he said, but clearly not as much because i don't know if the president heard but staples plans to close more than 200 stores in just north america this year, which could explain why it's merging with office depot, whose stores are even less profitable. some are calling it the merger of the losers. never mind staples already offers part-time nonexempt associates insurance. not good enough not generous enough. i guess when it comes to this president not his enough, even though it seems more than fair enough covering everything from medical and dental to vision and even same-sex benefits. like i said, none of those are his benefits or his insurance. just like staples itself isn't his cup of tea either. might that have something to do with the fact that staples was one of bane capital's earliest investment successes? now, who ran bane back in those days? oh you remember.
that was mitt romney. and wasn't tom stenberg its co-founder the same guy who said that romney was a better job creator than barack obama? oh, i'm sure this isn't payback. that would be way too tacky way too obvious way too scary. no, it's just coincidence that staples has been stapled and other companies that avoid costs on a far far grander scale even shipping jobs overseas. companies like apple, for example, aren't mentioned. i'm sure that was just an oversight after all. why rip the apple guy for salaried stock grants running into the hundreds of millions of dollars when you can go after the staples guy for his 10 million? seems fair. seems balanced. seems nuts! you're not going to hear that story, my friends. you're not going to hear the other side of the staples drama. you're going to hear fat cats getting a way with holy murder. but you're not going to hear how
they already insure, how they've been protecting jobs, and you're not going to hear the dire straits they're in in a desperate merger. but, again, you will tonight, 8:00 p.m. i want to spell it out line by line. the whole spreadsheet. hello, everyone. itis 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." more than six months after launching a bombing campaign to degrade and destroy isis, the president has asked congress for authorization to extend the use of military force for three more years. here's president obama addressing the nation a short while ago on his long-term strategy. >> this resolution reflects our core objective to destroy isil. a systemic and sustained campaign of air strikes against isil in iraq and syria, support and training for local forces on the ground including the moderate syrian opposition,