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hello, welcome to "justice." i'm judge jeanine pirro. thanks for being with us tonight. signing any deal or agreement with iran would be a disaster. it would be a problem for me and it would be a problem for you. >> this year we had the best opportunity in decades to pursue a different future between our countries. just over a year ago, we reached an initial understanding regarding iran's nuclear program and both sides have kept our commitments. iran has halted progress on its nuclear program and even rolled it back in some areas. the international community, including the united states, has provided iran with some relief from sanctions. >> i don't want to have a
different experience with iran. in fact, i don't want to have any experience with iran as long as the ayatollah comeny is running the joint. i personally am not on a suicide mission. i'm looking to hang around as long as i can. now, if president barack obama wants to have a different future with iran moving forward, i'm all for letting him have at it. he's already pen pals with the ayatollah. and reports are that his right hand, valerie jarrett, secretly met with komeni during his 2012 re-election campaign. both sides, of course, deny that report. the president has provided iran with some relief from sanctions and reportedly reduced from 20 to 10 years the point at which they can go nuts and build a bomb with our blessing. and by the way, if iran has all
this oil, will someone please tell me why they need nuclear energy? now, our president believes that iran is a country of its word. take a listen. >> iran's supreme leader ayatollah komeni has issued a fatwah against the development of nuclear weapons and president rouhani said iran would never develop a nuclear weapon. >> a fatwah against a development of a nuclear weapon? are you kidding? isn't iran the world's biggest sponsor of terrorism? mr. president, haven't you heard of about which under sharia permits lying in order to achieve any goal that benefits them. the ayatollah's the supreme religious leader follows sharia. the law that requires everyone to engage in jihad against the infidels. and just this week, general petraeus, you know, the guy
whose military skill led to winning the iraq war, has said that iran is more dangerous than isis. so, mr. president, why are you so focused on helping these people? >> if iran's leaders can agree to a reasonable deal, it can lead to a better path. the path of greater opportunities for the iranian people. more trade and ties with the world. more foreign investment in jobs including for young iranians. >> isn't that nice? our president is worried about jobs in iran. and a greater future for the iranian people. mr. president, with all due respect, why don't you focus on the job the american people elected you to do? the one american people are paying you to do? how about you fix our economy, create jobs for our kids, and a better path for americans?
you're the one who freaked out when israel's prime minister addressed americans. you know what i think this was all about? you just hate bibi netanyahu. you hate that he won. you hate that he came here a true statesman and a leader. you hate him so much that your state department gave $350,000 taxpayer dollars to a non-profit that supported the anti-netanyahu candidate. might a few laws have been broken there? we're going to talk about that in a minute with a congressional leader who demands answers. you know iran is committed to the destruction of our ally, israel. you know that iran has provided hamas to weapons to kill israelis. you know many in iran's leadership still refer to america as the great satan. what's that?
iran is helping us defeat isis? we're on the same side? they are helping us by fighting our enemy, isis? mr. president, a tip. iran is fighting isis because they are both laying claim to iraq, a nation that iran has always coveted. iraq, the nation you left in shambles by pulling out too soon because of your political agenda. so here's the bottom line. your petty jealousy of a leader who fights hard, who fights to the death for his people, is jeopardizing a longstanding relationship between israel and the united states. you would rather support a regime committed to the death and destruction of our one true ally in the middle east. you seem committed to doing whatever you can to signal your disdain for israel. whatever you can to make friends
with the enemy, and this, our ally. mr. president, whose side are you on, anyway? and that's my open. tell me what you think on my facebook page or twitter @judgejeanine #justiceopen. with me from tel-a-viv, former israeli deputy defense minister and member of the kineset danny dannon. you heard my open. am i wrong? >> good evening, judge. great to be on your show again especially after we won the election. but i think that relationship between u.s. and israel are much stronger than politics. much stronger than any leader in israel or in washington. that's why we are not worried about the relationship, but we are worried about iran. it's a bad agreement. bad agreements for you, the american people. and the israelis. we cannot accept this agreement, and i think prime minister netanyahu said it very clearly
in congress if it's a bad agreement, we want to be iran not nuclear, not for a week, a month, or a year, but forever. right to leave enriched uranium, leave reactors in tact, right of missiles to meet new york city. a missile that's going to reach tel-a-viv. they would be allowed to develop the missile that can reach washington, d.c., as well. >> well, you know, danny, the israeli people obviously agree with you. i mean, netanyahu won very big beyond the expectations, but with the american government giving allegedly $350,000 of our money to the anti-netanyahu candidate, how do israelis feel about that? >> we are a strong democracy. the strongest one in the middle
east. and we saw 70% participation in the last election. we don't like other countries meddling in our politics own our democracy. we heard the alleged -- came from the u.s., from other european countries. i can tell you one thing, it actually helped us, the likud. helped mr. netanyahu. when we see other countries interfering in our democracy, people that are smarter than that, they came and voted and gave the likud leadership the support and votes to continue to lead the nation. >> and what is the reaction of the people in israel to obama saying that he now has to reassess aspects of the relationship with israel given what he calls a netanyahu's hard right turn there? >> well, i think that president obama should meet prime minister netanyahu and speak with him and to see that we haven't changed our policy. he should look at the region.
t hamas and palestinians are still there. islam are getting stronger in our region. yet we have a reality and should face that reality. i thing there's nothing personal here, but we are living in the middle east. we want to advance peace but cannot make mistakes. >> danny danon, thanks so much for being with us. congratulations to you. >> thank you, judge. thank you. all right. with me now, republican congressman lee zeldon, who was a member of the house foreign affairs committee. good evening, congressman. you along with senator ted cruz sent a letter to secretary of state kerry asking about this non-profit group that sent $350,000, taxpayers' money, to back netanyahu's rival. did this violate their tax exempt status? and what can you tell us? >> well, the answer we got back from secretary kerry was a partial response to some of our questions. one of the questions he didn't answer was with regards to the irs tax exempt status.
so secretary kerry suggested senator cruz and i reached out to the irs commissioner. so we did. we're waiting for a response. this is a u.s. 501 c3 tax exempt charitable organization that worked with obama's team, a dozen and a half obama staffers to try to oust bibi. >> when you say a dozen and a half obama staffers, you're saying -- where were they trying to oust bibi? how? >> they were working in israel. >> his staffers were working in israel? >> these were campaign staffers led by jeremy byrd who was the president's national field director. strategies entered into a partnership with one voice and v15 or victory 15. they were running an a.c.o.r.n., obama, organizing for america type campaign over with the digital ads, billboards, the phones. they were targeting israeli voters. >> why do you think our president hates this man so much? >> well, he lost. i mean, i think the president tuesday night felt like he lost. you know, i don't know. maybe it's because he found someone who was filling that
vacuum in the middle east, created this -- our president -- right now israel and our allies are in the foxhole and they're looking around and they can't find our president anywhere. the leader of the free world is busy negotiating a bad deal with iran. >> and what do you think of this video that the president made for the people of iran saying, you know, he wants to give them jobs and all -- what is that about? >> well, i agree with you that his focus really should be on american interests, creating jobs here at home. he did the same exact thing with isis. when he had his extremism summit a few weeks ago at the white house. he was saying one of the three prongs of tackling isis was to get them more jobs. i think that the president needs a refresher as to who our friends are and who our enemies are. >> but you know what, anybody can tell you who our friends and who our enemies are, and you can't get into the president's mind, but are they naive enough to believe that they can negotiate a deal for iran and protect us, the american people?
>> no. the president is not pursuing a good deal with iran. he's pursuing a bad deal that is going to trigger a nuclear arms -- >> why? tell me why. >> well, this is march madness i guess is what the president is pursuing over there. there really is no good explanation as to why he is doing it. there is, fortunately, only a year and a half left in his second term in office. the length of our relationships with our allies, like israel and others, will outlast his president's time in the white house. >> i hope so. >> hopefully doesn't cause too much damage in the meantime. >> can the president cut congress out of the iran nuke deal? >> well, the president would like to cut congress out of everything. i mean, he looks at the constitution, he sees himself as a monarch. he is the president and he is congress. you know, if you talk to him and you question him on this policy -- >> but can he keep you out of this? >> he cannot. >> how -- what would you do to stay in it? what do you do? >> whatever he is seeking to agree to with iran must come to
congress for our approval. if he does not receive our approval, he cannot just get rid of sanctions that were passed by congress in the first place. >> all right. congressman lee zeldon, good to have you here this evening. >> thank you. coming up, growing fears as is isis claims credit for the brutal attacks across the middle east. are we next? plus vote in tonight's instapoll. will hillary clinton survive her latest scandal to run in 2016? facebook or tweet me @judgejeanine #justiceonfox. who are we? we are the thinkers. the job jugglers. the up all-nighters. and the ones who turn ideas into action. we've made our passions our life's work. we strive for the moments where we can say, "i did it!" ♪ we are entrepreneurs who started it all... with a signature. legalzoom has helped start over 1 million businesses, turning dreamers into business owners. and we're here to help start yours.
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developing tonight, new fears as isis claims responsibility for several deadly terror attacks this week. in both yemen and tunisia. has the islamic state shifted its fox? are with they next target? with me, former navy s.e.a.l. and former u.s. navy commander, founder of the american islamic forum for democracy, doctor zudi. good evening, jen lmen. isis on the march. a month ago the beheading of 21 coptic christians, now tunisia, and yemen. they seem to be growing exponentially. i'm going to start with you, eric. how is it that this is growing
so vastly across the globe? are we next? >> well, what you're seeing, judge, you're seeing the spread of both this ideology and you're also seeing the spread of these tactics. so, these tactics of suicide car bombings and truck bombings and beheadings. you're seeing this not only in iraq and syria, you're seeing this in yemen, tunisia, you're seeing it in nigeria with boko haram. in all these places what you're seeing is not necessarily increased operational coordination but you're definitely seeing emulation as this radical ideology spreads and tactics spread as well. >> and, you know, now boko haram is claiming, you know, their allegiance to isis or agreement with isis. boko haram covering a certain part of the globe a little more east and south i guess. and, you know, we see copenhagen, canada, australia. are we next? >> we certainly are.
and not -- today there was reports that they're threatening a list of our military and the fbi has reported they're in 50 of our states and i think what's next depictive this week is there's the two attacks, tunisias more of the front of the ideological battle because it's only so far the successful democracy after the arab awakening. secularists defeated the radical islamists, anti-islamists, and yemen is sort of the military front for isis just like in syria where they cut their teeth. they're fighting now in yemen against the shiite jihadists. ultimately both represent the ideological part. >> you know, in tunisia, i mean, they say tunisia is one of the most educated arab countries. they actually go into a museum. now we're seeing malls and airports and airplanes and coffee shops. it's like they're trying to think of new ways and, you know,
unusual places to go after victims and to make their statement. eric, what do you think of that? how do we protect americans? >> well, what they're doing, judge, is terrorists operate by spreading fear. and so by attacking malls, by attacking museums, by attacking mosques, they're actually intentionally spreading fear. and one of the things that they're also doing is by putting out on social media these threats against u.s. service members, they're tries to inspire lone wolf attacks in the united states. what they're trying to do is to inspire fear. what we have to do is we need to build a plan that will inspire courage to actually take the fight to isis and make sure that they don't threaten american lives and those of our allies. >> eric, the president is not going to do that. >> well -- >> yeah, actually -- and if i could fill in there, the bottom line is that we need a strategy. the president doesn't have a strategy. and they attack tunisia because
they want to destroy their economy. they're filling in a vacuum. they see opportunity. unless we start engaging muslims and the world in a battle of ideas against islamopatriotism, that vacuum is going to be filled by radical islam on the sunni and shiite side. >> history repeats itself. there's no question about the vacuum. eric, going back to you, we don't have a strategy. i'm almost tired of hearing it. no reflection on you, zudi, because i think you're brilliant. eric, there's no strategy and he's not putting boots on the ground. what do we do? just suck it up? >> well, you could think back historically, and one of the analogies you can look at is the beginning of special operations forces. when john f. kennedy started the s.e.a.l. teams in 1962, he brought an idea, wanted to have organizations and military units that could bring a flexible response. there was the idea we needed to flexibly respond as communism was spreading around the world. what we need now is need a
strategy that's going to bring organizations like special operations, like our intelligence forces, so we can work creatively in our allies to counter threats from boko haram and nigeria and -- >> eric, doesn't the president have to sign off on any special ops? >> yeah, absolutely. this is ultimately the responsibility of the commander in chief to build a strategy like that. >> all right. zudi, last question. yemen, americans are out of there. a few months ago, we were winning there. now we're out. military, everybody. are we just giving it up and letting the houthis supported by iran, i understand, take over? >> it sure seems that way. the president's video you started talking about earlier, who was he talking to? the green revolution that would have been the anti-jihadist shiites we'd want to talk to is not who he's talking to. we're basically militarily leaving and ideologically telling the anti-islam shiites we want nothing to do with them.
the houthis are part of the movement. >> eric, zuhdi, thanks so much, gentlemen. >> thank you. coming up, hillary clinton even in more hot water. details and the latest scandal to rock the woman who still thinks she can be president. next. oh yea, that's coming down let's get some rocks, man. health can change in a minute. so cvs health is changing healthcare. making it more accessible and affordable, with walk-in medical care, no appointments needed and most insurance accepted. minuteclinic. another innovation from cvs health. because health is everything. we're reinventing inhow we do business, so businesses can reinvent the world. from pharmaceuticals to 3d prototyping, biotech to clean energy. whether your business is moving, expanding or just getting started...
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authorities say their mother and a teenage sister survived jumping from the second floor of their brooklyn home. both suffered burns and smoke inhalation. investigators believe a warming plate in the kitchen started the fire after midnight. officials say the victims range in age from 5 to 16. i'm jackie ibanez. now back to "justice with judge jeanine." more trouble for my friend, hillary. a new report says the clinton foundation got millions from foreign nationals while she was at the department of state. this while the foundation's health charity reportedly stopped publishing donor lists in 2010. they say it was just an oversight. really? here to break all the sordid details, jay, author of the new book "a republic no more." jay, i have always hated the intersection of politics, government, and money.
especially for this lady in waiting. what is happening? >> well, that makes two of us, to start. and, look, i think what the clintons have been doing for, you know, 8 to 16 years, frankly, is building a shadow campaign operation, and they were building it while she was in the state department, while she was in the senate, and i think that that is now coming to light. >> well, you know, when she said she wouldn't accept any money once she became secretary of state from these foreign governments, the next thing that happens is there are some of the foreign governments or people connected to the foreign governments, i should say, start giving her money, up to $68 million. and one is someone from the saudi royal family, another one is a person from parliament in another country. i mean, you know, it's kind of like this e-mail thing, and now the charity says, oh, we forgot to print the names on the donors. as soon as she's not the secretary of state, the money comes in from the foreign
governments. >> yeah. it's very concerning. this position of secretary of state is supposed to be one of the most nonpartisan positions in the entire government, and for her to be accepting, or for her foundation to be accepting contributions from foreign governments while she is in charge of the state department, is very peculiar. i just really want to emphasize that. this is not something that condoleezza rice did or john kerry is doing. this is, quite frankly, without precedent. >> do you think in light of all this happening that she's still going to be the candidate for the democrats in 2016? >> as a matter of fact, i do. not because she's a particularly strong candidate, but if you survey the democratic field, it is shockingly weak. there is really nobody of sufficient stature to challenge her. now, that may change if more revolutions come to light. maybe somebody of greater stature will toss into the race,
but at this moment right now, she towers over the rest of the field. >> okay. so now what we've got is hillary clinton, every week there seems to be another scandal, another issue. you know, whether it's e-mails, the private server, deleting e-mails. you know, subpoenas. it is -- i mean, did she break any laws, do you think? >> you know, that's a good question. i'm not sure, and -- but just because she didn't break any laws, we shouldn't think that everything that she did was appropriate and above board. you know, oftentimes politicians find ways to behave inappropriately, unethically without breaking laws. the laws have trouble keeping up with political malpractice. no small part because politicians write the laws. >> and finally, you know, given that she's taken money from saudi arabia, saudi arabian government, as well as the royal family, i mean, and she talks about a war on women. and she is taking huge amounts
of money. i mean, i really think you could live off the interest or run a country off the interest of the clinton foundation. and she's accepting money from countries where they stone women to death. they don't let women drive. i mean, do you think this will hurt her in the 2016 election? if she does run? >> i think it can hurt her. it depends upon whom the republicans nominate. i think the clintons have made a political career out of saying one thing and doing another. and it really will come down to whether or not the republicans can make the case effectively to the american people next year. >> all right. jay cost, thanks so much for being with us this evening. >> thank you. all right. and coming up, you all heard accused serial murderer robert durst confess he killed them all. but how many is all? tonight, new information on why investigators are now searching for durst links in other cold cases. stay with us. i have the worst cold with this runny nose.
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real estate empire heir, and suspected serial killer continues to unfold tonight as investigators question if he's connected to other cold cases. but first, before we talk about that, take a look back at how we got here and my involvement as d.a. in the case. it's the case that first captivated me as d.a. in 2000, and has now captivated the nation. robert durst taken into custody by law enforcement last saturday night in new orleans in the lobby of a marriott hotel. seemingly prepared to live life on the run, durst had a head-to-neck latex mask, $40,000 in cash, and a fake i.d. he's being held on a first-degree murder warrant out of l.a., but also charged with
gun and marijuana possession, both of which were found in his hotel room. durst's lawyer, chip lewis, says durst won't fight extradition charges to los angeles but will mount a vigorous defense just like he's done in the fast. >> we the jury find the defendant robert durst not guilty. >> money, two murders, and a missing wife, haunting the life of excentric new york real estate heir robert durst for more than 30 years. he says he did not kill his wife or his friend, but does admit he killed then dismembered his neighbor in texas. it began in 1982. durst's 29-year-old medical student wife, kathleen, disappeared. fast forward to spring 2000. as westchester county district attorney, i re-opened the cold case of kathleen durst's
disappearance and looked to interview those involved in 1982. december 24th, 2000, shortly before a scheduled interview with durst's close friend and confidant, susan berman by members of my office, she is found murdered, shot execution style in her l.a. home. durst in california at the time of susan's murder, but never charged by california authorities. with a penchant for dressing like a deaf mute woman named dorothy, durst next appears in galveston, texas, renting a room in a low-income area next to one morris black. when morris black's body parts wash up along the bay, durst is arrested. he claims that he killed black in self-defense and chopped up the body to escape the scrutiny that durst's defense team claimed i put him under. the jury bought it, and durst is
found not guilty in november 2003. but now, in the explosive hbo docudrama "the jinx," evidence that implicates durst in the murder of susan berman. this letter found by berman's stepson is alleged to be sent to his step mom by durst. it has eerily similar handwriting to this letter alerting police to a body at susan berman's home on december 23rd, 2000. this new piece of evidence even has the word beverly in beverly hills misspelled in the same way. could "the jinx" have finally jinxed robert durst? with me now, the homicide detective who led the durst murder investigation in galveston, cody. good evening, detective. fbi authorities are calling all local law enforcement in
multiple states to review cold cases in places where durst was known to visit. is this unusual? >> not at all. it's not unusual at all. it's standard. when you have somebody like -- that would dismember somebody and that stands out, then the fbi is going to look at what they have and then they're going to call agencies, say can you look into your cold cases, see? you have anything that fits this? >> all right. and, but this has been going on for a while, isn't it? didn't -- there's a body part of morris black, your case in texas, that never washed up on the shore, and i imagine that there has been a consistent request for information regarding that body part? >> well, the body part that didn't -- we didn't recover was morris' head, and there's strong evidence that suggests that it was actually removed from the
si scene because there were bags on the scene you could tell had been cut open. we believe that's the bags that had morris' head in it and somebody took it, took the head. >> the head would certainly indicate whether or not it was an accident or self-defense or shot in the back like susan berman. >> correct. correct. and i believe that's why in all likelihood mr. durst went back and got the head because he knew when the bags didn't go down and sink, they washed back up on the rocks. he realized that he had to do something with that head. he couldn't get all the bags but had to get that head back. i believe he went, cut the bags open, took the head out of the bag, and disposed of it probably in swamps in new orleans. >> and when you saw the swamps of new orleans, it's interesting because he was just arrested one week ago in new orleans. he has a history with that town? >> yes, ma'am. he also had rented a room the same way he did in galveston.
he did that also in new orleans as a mute female. >> interesting. all right. i'm going to ask you one last question. i've always felt that the way that the jury ended up acquitting robert durst, that something actually, you know, was awry. sources tell me that one of the jurors, the most vocal one, actually was in mexico with durst after the trial. does that sound like it's kosher? >> i don't believe it passes a smell test. i received the same information and had seen some pictures. i think him and his wife were in mexico. >> and when you say him and his wife, you mean chris lovell, correct? >> yes, ma'am. >> okay i'm sorry. go ahead. >> yes. and so does it pass the smell test? i don't think it does. but at the same time, i believe that it's my understanding that it happened after the trial,
that he supposedly became friends with bob durst and, you know, i -- it is what it is. >> well, interesting that you'd want to befriend someone who cuts a body up like a pro. detective, thanks for being with us this evening. >> thank you for having me, ma'am. okay. joining me now, kathy durst's brother, jim mccormack. i've been wanting to ask you, how is your mom? how is she doing after all of this in this past week? >> well, mom is 101 years old. when she gave her taping time to andrew and mark for "the jinx" she was about five years ago or so, she was a lot sharper. she -- she's got a problem with hearing which then compromises her comprehension. so she's dealing with it. i'm blessed with sisters, three sisters who rotate with me on taking care of her because she still lives at her own home.
but her understanding of what's happening has been pretty much kept from her in terms of not wanting to upset her any more than most people would be. >> all right. jim, you and i met 15 years ago, and at that time, kathy had been missing for 17 years. can you -- can you take the viewers through what it was like the last 33 years not having any closure in kathleen, your sister's case? >> yes, i can. i've lived it for 33 years and i've described it to other interviewers. it's kind of like being in a marathon, a 33-year marathon that is now culminating in maybe a two- or three-lap sprint hopefully in l.a. and hopefully into westchester county. you know, as the dominos begin to fall, the first one has to fall in new orleans, and then we're going to go back to l.a. that domino is going to fall. then the last domino will be my sister, kathy's, case, in
washington. the pain, the suffering, the loss of hope and the renewal of hope over the years has been literally a roller coaster for myself, my sisters, and when mom was more alert, for her, too. fortunately, my sisters and i try to protect her from the direct involvement. so we tell her we'll take care of it, mom, and kathy's taking care of us. >> all right. you've had a week, robert, for the -- i'm sorry, you've had a week, jim, for the news to sink in. having heard robert durst say, you know, "killed them all." how did that hit you? how do you feel? >> well, i've had a lot of time to reflect on it since i heard those words. i paid particular attention to the pronoun in the sentence that proceeded "killed them all, of course." he killed the pronoun "i" and "killed them all, of course," was a continuation of that
stream of thought. so to me that was a vindication of something that i and so many others have felt about bob's culpability and my sister's disappearance and probable death. it just now has to go through the legal procedure for the provability of it all. i felt pretty much vindicated because we've held that belief all these years and would not let that porch light go out ever, ever, ever. >> jim, in "the jinx" jarecki and smerling obviously season yous. we both think so highly of them. that one scene where they have one of the dursts asking your family to leave, when the family went to their apartment to ask if they might help finding your cyst isister sister. it broke my heart. when you see this stuff and relived what's happened in the last 33 years, do you get angry at -- you know, or frustrated? >> well, you get a lot of emotions. anger is probably the top of the list. but you get a lot of emotions
because here you had seymour durst when he was alive, whose house we were in, were asked to leave. had so much power. he could pick up the phone and the mayor answered the phone directly. he had an entire organization. lots of financial and political resources he could put to work to find his, yes, seymour durst's daughter-in-law. nothing happened. with the exception of one other relative who reached out to me within the last year, it has been zero, i mean zero input from the defenurst family membe the organization. i haven't talked to their lawyers. i could care less. i'm trying to solve the disappearance of kathy along with so many others. i'm avoiding, avoiding speculation. there are some speculators out there, denial types, people who say this couldn't be possible. >> the apologists. >> they believe -- oh, yeah,
absolutely, jeanine. i've seen it all. i'm committed and keeping the porch light lit. >> jim mccormack, good to see you. i have to tell you, i've known you for many years, since this was re-opened. i feel like a cloud has been lifted from you. hopefully it will be completely gone when we find out exactly what happened. thanks so much for being with us this evening. >> swjeanine, can i add one thi, jeanine? >> sure. >> there was speculation about bob knowing the black guy before, or maybe during kathy's disappearance. some of that is speculation, and it's being looked at very closely because both morris black and his brother, harry, who just recently died, had some sort of interaction with the durst family up in new england. some organic farm or whatever. and there may be some issues that have to be resolved there. i'm hopeful that everybody's looking at this from every angle. thank you so much, jeanine, for having me on. >> oh, yes, jim. and, of course, morris black, the victim in the texas case,
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didn't even know that accused killer robert durst was married to anyone other than the missing first wife, kathleen. with me now, the publisher of "real deal" magazine, that covers real estate in new york. all right, amir, good evening. you last spoke to deborah yesterday? what did you talk about? >> i did. we've been in contact in this past week several times. >> and what have you spoken about? >> well, over her frustration. you know, she's decided to be on lockdown and not talk to the press, and the press has sort of gone to town on her saying really anything to. and there's been a lot of inaccuracies and that's been very frustrating for her. >> well, you know, you say that she hasn't been with bob durst for over a decade, but don't you think it's unusual for a woman who's married to someone, and
not quiwilling to talk about th relationship is on what you call lockdown? >> well, i can't really speak on that. i'm not her spokesperson or anything like that. >> i'm asking you your opinion. >> my opinion is who knows why people get married and what the reasons are for their, you know, for their communion. but they've known each each oth long time, long before they were married. they were business associates. it's not something that happened overnight or a course of a week. they knew each other a long time and decided to get married. >> you think, amir, highly of deborah. is that correct? >> do i think highly of her? i know her on a business level. as a business person, she's incredibly successful in a very tough market and she's part of a handful of women who've managed to do incredibly well in new york city real estate. >> you know, i must tell you, amir, i have spent most of the day today talking to women who have sued her, talking to women who felt she had cheat cheated
them out of commission, a lot of them being fired and forced to sue. they are afraid of her and they have a completely different take on this woman and they say she is a woman who will do anything for money. do you think that this marriage to robert durst is based on money? >> that's one of the theories that's out there. but i can't speak on that. that's a good question to ask her. >> do you know whether or not she helped robert durst in trying to get out of the country? >> i think that her pool of compassion has tapped out for robert durst. a lot of people don't know this but the videos from the deposition and the audio and movie are from 12 years ago. >> good night, everyone. eve is work better on pain than tylenol arthritis. so why am i still thinking about this? how are ya? good. aleve. proven better on pain.
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