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out. that's it for us tonight. thanks for watching. please remember the spin stops here because we're looking out for you. breaking tonight, the black lives matter movement confronts yet another presidential candidate. this time republican jeb bush. welcome to the kelly file. i'm shannon bream in for megyn kelly. the latest in nevada where last night jeb bush held a town hall. while the event largely went out without a hitch for mr. bush there was a moment during a q and a session on african american issues that mr. bush was briefly interrupted. watch. >> first and foremost, all leaders, whether they're presidents running for president, city council members,
mayors governors, everybody needs to be engaged in this to recognize this is a serious problem. perceptions become priority. there is racism in america. no one should deny that. although there's been serious progress -- i'm sorry. i'll finish. i'm trying to -- [ inaudible ] >> i relate to that by saying -- i relate to it as a president to try to create a climate where there is civilian understanding. >> and shortly after the town hall wrapped up while bush was shaking hands and talking with folks one on one, that now familiar chant began. >> black lives matter! black lives matter! >> after that started, mr. bush stayed in the room for two more
minutes shaking hands, taking pictures before heading out the door. trace gallagher has the rest of the story from our west coast newsroom. >> before his town hall in las vegas, jeb bush met with the members of black lives matter movement and during the town hall they mostly remained silent. but you saw at the end of the question and answer session, those chants began. listen again. >> black lives matter! black lives matter! black lives matter! black lives matter! black lives matter! >> one of those who was chanting then walked up to the former florida governor to ask a question. bush reached out to shake his hand. the man paused and then they finally shook. reports claiming the activist forced bush off the stage are not accurate. the event was already over. not the same case last weekend when democratic presidential candidate bernie sanders was
forced off the stage by the black lives matter movement. watch that. >> you will join us now in holding bernie sanders accountable specifically for his actions. >> and this week donald trump said if he's challenged by black lives matter activists, he would handle it a lot differently than bernie sanders. listen to trump. >> that will never happen with me. i don't know if i'll do the fighting myself or if other people will. but that was a disgrace. the way they -- i felt badly for him. but it showed that he's weak. >> and now the activists have responded to donald trump say kusing him of threatening them. then when asked if they would target his campaign the found are of black lives matter in bo boston told cnn, i can guarantee there will be more callouts across the folks in the network. in the meantime dr. ben carson
was asked about black lives matter and he said instead of pointing fingers and creating strife we need to solve the murder problem in the black communities. shannon. >> so what exactly is black lives matter looking to achieve with these confrontations. our fox news contributor and former chief presidential speech writer mark hannah a former obama aid. welcome to you both. good to see you. casen, i'll start with you. are they accomplishing their objective? we're talking about them. they're getting a lot of attention. isn't that what they want to do shine the spotlight on the things they're interested in. >> they're getting a lot of attention. i don't think the people are persuaded by smash mark tactics. i mean in wisconsin, people wonder why scott walker won his recall election it's because of
the left wing activists who went and interrupted all of his events. they're not convincing a lot of people. but on the other hand i hope they show up at a lot of the republican events. it's a great opportunity for the republicans to respond the way jeb bush did, to respond with empathy and compassion and explain their stance on the issue. i don't think that it's necessarily a bad thing for the gop. >> i want to ask you when they show up and there is a lot of shouting and even at the bernie sanders event, it was unclear what they wanted to say or what they wanted to accomplish other than stopping him from speaking. at some of the events do they risk hurting themselves as a movement by not being able to, once they gain control, articulate exactly what it is that they want from the candidates? >> i think there's a saying in politics that you can sort of antagonize people and persuade them at the same too many. the black lives matter protesters need to be careful. people criticize the younger
generation for being politically disengaged. no one can call these protesters apathetic. i want to say something about what marc thesen said about jeb bush handling this with empathy. the answer that jeb bush came up with when asked about racial injustice have to do that people don't trust institutions. they have to trust the institutions again. that's not the stuff of great, you know inspirational leadership about trusting institutions. i don't think he's really connecting with the protesters and somebody needs to whether it's a republican or a democrat. and speak to their specific issues and also the broader societal problems and connect it with mainstream public policy solutions. >> marc, let me ask you do you give him any credit? his campaign knew they were going to be there. he reached out and tried to meet with them and he didn't leave the room when it started. if you watch the raw video, he was there for a few minutes.
somebody approached him and appeared to be with the group, and he reached out to shake their hand. it's his willingness for being able to stay there and hear them out. >> yes. hillary clinton met with the black lives protesters earlier this week and i think jeb bush gave them the same sort of courtesy. i don't think though -- i'll say again. i don't think he's connecting. and that's going to be a big problem at the end of the day. >> well, as thiessen you mentioned this could be a good opportunity for any candidate who can sort of have the conversation and show some compassion or have policies directed at the concerns of the specific individuals. is it a potential win for those if these folks show up? >> it's a goldened opportunity for a republican. jeb bush reached out to them met with them and answered his questions and they still tried to disrupt his event.
that shows pretty bad form. but i think these are opportunities for republicans. what republicans need to do is to respond with empathy to turn the debate and make the case that look it's the democratic policies of the last seven years that have left the vulnerable citizens in our country in the state they've. we have a 31% young black unemployment rate. stagnant mobility which is a republican issue, that's a civil rights issue. they should say it's unacceptable that african americans are stuck in communities, trapped in poverty and violence and that we will fight for them. as ben carson said last night, we'll fight for them whether they vote for us or not. and they may not vote for the republicans. but the persuadables will look and say those are a people we want to give a chance. >> i vote for marc thiessen in 2016. >> i'm writing that on my calendar. >> seriously.
honestly i don't think that argument convinces a lot of americans. but i do think that look people need to be -- the republican candidates need to be as articulate as mark just was in making the case. i think ben carson made some inroads this past week. i produced political events for three presidential campaigns. political protests have a fact of life in the campaign world. they're going to happen. instead of pushing back on this the candidates need to find a way to address the grievances whether you agree with them or you think they're legitimate or not. this is democracy in action. >> when you have these public events unless they're extremely controlled, these things are going to happen. you do need to be prepared to have an answer for them. i want to play a little bit of mark o'malley the former governor of maryland running as a democrat part of what he sad to say when confronted with this
conversation. >> every life matters and that is why this issue is so important. black lives matter why lives matter all lives matter. >> yeah. he was getting booed there and he later on apologized for kind of the way that came out and been criticized that he shouldn't have said all lives matter bs every life matters or white lives matter. that he should have stayed strictly on only the black lives matter message. and by diluting it he was disrespecting them. >> he's a poster child of why this is such an opportunity for the republican party. the city of baltimore that was in flames just a few months ago is the laboratory of liberal social policy in the city. democrats have been in charge of baltimore for 50 years and the result is what we saw in baltimore. martin o'malley presided other that. the republicans need to say, look the democrats declared a
war on poverty 15 years ago and they reduced the poverty and we've got people living in inner cities without job, 31% black youth unemployment rate. their policies are not working and republicans have better alternatives to address the problems of poverty and for the lack of mobility in this country. so i think every republican who has a black lives matter protest needs to turn this into an opportunity to take on the liberal welfare state and the failure of the war on poverty and say this is a result of democratic policy. >> can i get in -- >> yes. i would like to give the final word to the marc thiessen 2016 presidential campaign. >> it's ludicrous to think that these protests are the polite of the black community is a result of liberal policies. this isn't liberal, conservative democratic or republican. it's a product of a criminal justice system that discriminates against black
people. frankly a lot of the big thinking that's come here has come out of the republican party party. the push for criminal justice reform is happening in certain wings of the republican party. it's not going to come to the floor because it doesn't stoke the base. it doesn't appeal to the extremist elements of the republican party that you need to do. so if mark's message about, you know not just sort of scapegoating and pointing the finger at liberals, if you pivot that to an actual positive message of criminal justice reform the republicans could make headway on this matter. >> republican and democrat need to be prepared. there's no excuse now. mark and marc thank you both. >> thanks, shannon. and coming up republican presidential candidate marco rubio weighs in on the black lives movement. plus the letter he just wrote to secretary of state john kerry on the secretary's controversial
trip to cuba tomorrow. new questions after the fbi finally gets its hand on hillary clinton's private e-mail server. the senator was briefed on the top secret contents of that hardware. he is here live on what investigators are looking for now. plus new details into the investigation of the targeting scandal. what we've learned about her and how it impacted the way that they did business. >> i exercise my fifth amendment right and refuse to answer that question.
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talk about is how do we solve the problem in the black community of murder. there is a way to go that will lead to upward mobility as opposed to dependency. let's talk about it that way and let's not be satisfied to be patted on the head and kept like a pet. >> senator marco rubio of florida is a republican candidate for president. welcome, senator. good to see you. thus far i haven't seen this turn up at any of your events but i would suspect that all candidates are just waiting. >> this is a legitimate issue. irrespective of how you may feel, they have a first amendment right to talk about this. i did work on it as speak are of the floor of the house. it is a fact in the african american community around this country there has been a for a number of years a growing resentment for the way law enforcement and the criminal justice system interacts. in some communities in this
country they have a much higher chance of interacting with the criminal justice. it is a serious problem in the country. there are a lot of reasons for it. it is something we need to confront. you have a significant percentage of our population that feels that they are locked out of the promise of the country and the result is the anxious site and frustration that you're seeing expressed. i personally know people who are professionals, who are african american males, i have one friend in particular that's been stopped in the last 18 months eight to nine different times. never got a ticket for being stopped. if that happened to me after eight or nine times, i would be wondering what's going on here. i would be upset about it. i've seen it, not just in that instance but even growing up. it may not necessarily have a federal bill that we can pass. this is a problem the nation has to confront because it's real. >> i don't have a full understanding of what these particular protesters want other than capturing the spotlight.
>> i don't think they have a detailed policy plan that they want us to carry out. look if you're arrested if you're a 19-year-old young minority male you're arrested you're probably going to get -- if you don't have any money, you're going to get public defenders and they're going to push you toward a plea deal. you now have a record which means you're stigmatized in the eyes of the employer and your future. i do think one of the things that we have to do at the state level and potentially the federal level is look at the ways to divert people that first offense is not a violent crime so you don't get people stigmatized early in life with a criminal record that begins to lock them out. once you incarcerate someone, their chances of repeating it in the future is going to climb. you're housing them with criminals somewhere they're learning the tools of the trade. it is particularly troubling among young african american males. if you're in new york the harlem children's zone for example has an incredible record
in a geographic record of improving outcomes. that's one aspect of a much broader things we need to do. i don't know if this group has a detailed agenda but it is a legitimate issue. >> he's pivot to foreign policy. i know you're going to hit on iran and cuba. >> and for me they're controversial because of how this administration has handled it. you have tyrannies, one in iran and one in cuba both receiving concessions from this president. in exchange in the case of iran for insufficient promises. and the ability to strike the very city we're in tonight, new york city. in the case of cuba, the cuban have basically pocketed all of these concessions that the president has made but they've been frank. nothing is going the change in cuba. this weekend alone they rounded up and arrested 90 or so dissidents. they beat people up on sunday of
this week. not only is nothing going to change but according to fidel castro he says we owe him money. >> what you make of that? >> it's ridiculous talk. it's the something they're sending to their people. that was published in the official government newspaper in cuba. that wasn't a message to americans, that was a message to the cubans. the message is i know going to have an american flag at this embassy, but we're still anti-american. don't get your hopes up. nothing is going to change in cuba. basically creating a condition they know will not be met as a new pretext for why cuba is not opening up and so forth. nothing is going to change in cuba they've said that. cuba is the no going to change until cuba changes. >> we know you have a lot more detail that you'll lay out tomorrow morning in new york city. we'll be watching. thank you. new details on the investigation of the irs targeting of conservatives. what new e-mails from the women woman at the heart of the scandal tell us how she viewed
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these latest revelations from lois lerner's e-mails go to motive not to deed. they're stark documents. they're author revealed as a person of trong opinions and self evidently strong dislike of conservatives. learner was the director of the division of irs that reviews different organizations applications for tax exempt status. she said she first became aware of the extra scrutiny being applied to the tea party groups in june of 2011. but it's been concluded that learner first heard about the tea party applications in 2010. we find one dated march of last year in which learner told a friend quote, they called me back to testify on the irs quote unquote scandal and i took the fifth again because they had been so evil and dishonest in my lawyer's that dealings with them. learner also called by far the
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them were marked top secret or sensitive information. but because hillary clinton maintained she never received or sent e-mails marked classified the concern is that someone might have stripped the classifications before they were sent to clinton's private server. today the state department was asked this. >> have you be able to determine whether any class fie occasion markings have been stripped? >> we have no indications that there were any -- that there was at all any stripping of classification marking on these. >> and at least one of the e-mails contained satellite imagery and signals intelligence that could have only come from the intel community, not the state department leading to accusations that someone in clinton's inner circle stripped the classifications, which is a felony. of course it's also against the law to knowingly store classified information at an unauthorized location. and marked or not, a former assistant fbi director said this
to chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel. >> marked or not should a secretary of somebody at a senior level have known this was sensitive information? >> unquestionably. particularly the more sensitive, the more guarded that everyone has to be with respect to the proper handling. >> of course the fbi is analyzing hillary clinton's private server. it's unknown if they can retrieve any of the deleted e-mails. but they may be looking to see if the serve was ever hacked. the inspector general are intel says in the 30,000 work related e-mails that hillary clinton turned over to the government hundreds of them might be classified. shannon. >> all right. thank you very much. here now, republican senator chuck grassley who was briefed by the intelligent community's inspector general on the top secret information found on clinton eeps serve clinton's server. thank you for joining us tonight, sir. >> glad to be with you, shannon.
>> you know more than we do and certainly more that you can tell us publicly. how concerned are you based on the briefing you got? >> well first of all, the briefing we got has more questions to be asked and answered than we got in the briefing. basically the briefing was just an acknowledgment on the part of the intelligence community that ret communications were in the e-mail files and weren't properly protected. and so that gets us back to the questions that i've raised in eight different letters to the fbi and to the state department is our national security being protected. who besides secretary clinton had access to this information and to the fbi, the extent to which they're investigating it. and the extent to which national security classified information is being properly protected.
and we don't have answers to our questions. and the briefing that you asked me about raised more questions than it has answered. >> well do you think you or any of the rest of us are going to get answers? we're told that the server that has been turned over to the fbi, is quote, blank. >> yeah. well let me tell you, it's always difficult in any administration including that one to get answer to a lot of oversight that was do as congressmen. those eight letters that i've written, we've had acknowledgment of those letters but no information yet. so what i've done is i've put a hold on 21 state department appointees to hold them up in the united states senate until they answer my letters. at this point i'm expecting to get answers, but as of now no answers. >> i'm sure you may hear the same thing when they hear about
these, trick of new information that keeps coming say at the end of the day they don't believe there's going to be any accountability any way, so why waste the time? >> why waste the time is because when the law isn't being followed those of us on the judiciary committee have the responsibility to raise the issues that the law has been violated. we have oversight over the fbi. we expect the fbi to do their job. and if laws have been violated don't you expect prosecution? of course you do. that's an executive branch privilege but we would expect that to be carried out. and we would expect to set an example. so like things in the future don't happen. and it ought to be -- in fact the laws have been violated in the sense that private e-mail is being used for top secret information. and this is just a real threat to our national security and we in congress continue let that go
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first on the kelly file tonight, actress kelly rutherford who was just dealt a serious blow in a custody dispute that's made international headlines, spanning two continents and six years. it all started in december 2008 when a then pregnant rutherford and german businessman daniel giersch split up. they went to court each seeking primary custody of the children. in 2012 with the custody case still unresolved giersch's business reason was revoked. that same year the california jouj ordered the children to temporarily live with their father in monaco and spend summers with their mother. recently the california and new york court system said they have
no jurisdiction over the case. days ago after he failed to send them back overseas a new york judge ordered rutherford to return the children to their father. joining us live kelly rutherford and her attorney wendy murphy. i understand for you this is a very confusing process. you've gone to california you've gone to new york the to places where you've live here with your children. both of the courts say they can't help you. what are you left with? >> that's my question is what am i left with. what do you do as a mother when you know we got married in california my children were born in california. i'm from california. the order was made from california saying it was temporary. we all agreed it was temporary. and now when it's time for the kids to come home california is saying they have no jurisdiction. so i went into the new york court and asked them because i now reside in new york. and to take jurisdiction and
they said we can't take jurisdiction. so what do you do? you know what is the right thing to do. >> how hard was it for you in that courtroom a few days ago to say good-bye to them and send them again overseas without you? >> it's -- you know i handed over my children and their passports and i didn't even get an answer from the judge as to when they were supposed to ever come back. and it's a very -- it's been a very surreal strange experience to go through as a parent and as a mother from the united states who had children here. i mean their dad knew they were marrying -- he was marrying an american and having children here. there was no -- and he made that choice. i believe in equal parenting. i believe that children do need both parents, you know. and certainly children want to
be with both parents. it's a natural thing. so -- but i'm -- my children are in a foreign country. so i don't think it's equal parenting. >> and i know the fight is far from over for you. wendy i want to bring you in here. i'm going to read something from the father's attorney here. your e. he said the judge correctly followed the law in the uniform child custody jurisdiction act and enforced the terms of the monaco judgment that mirrored the california judgment regarding custody and access. ms. rutherford stated in her appearances that she would return the children to their father on august 7th. the judge reviewed the judgmentance transcripts and rendered the appropriate ruling in directing the return of the children to their father. wendy, where do you go from here? >> how about we get the truth instead of the statement that you just read which is
irrational wrong, incorrect. i don't know how many words i can use. first of all, the judge in new york had absolutely no authority to do what she did. why? because an american court can't just enforce willy-nilly some foreign country's order. what if the father sent some lawyers into court and said you know i would like my children to be shipped like luggage to live in saudi arabia. thank you very much. here are the plane tickets. what you need first, and this is what the ucc, jaa and the hague convention requires is some kind of acknowledgment by an american court that there is a monaco order, that the monaco order has been validated and registered by that country first. and you're supposed to ask the state department to become involved. none of that happened. this was an ambush. and you know even worse than that is that we're talking about american citizen children. you notice how that statement
you just read says absolutely nothing about the fact that in this country -- i don't know what it's like in a lot of other countries. but in this country when you're an american citizen, man, woman or child, the supreme court of this country says nobody nobody who is a citizen can be forced to leave their own country. these are not dual citizen kids. they're just americans. no judge, no judge, much less a judge from a low level court in new york has the capacity the authority to ship an american citizen to live in a foreign country, end of discussion. now kids -- you know, kids are a little different. if parents agree that children should live somewhere else it's called expay treeation. kelly and her husband could have agreed at the time to live in a foreign country. but they agreed to this. they agreed to the children
remaining u.s. citizens. they agreed to the children never ever getting residency in a foreign country ever. the judge went along with that agreement. issued an order. so you tell me. what is a new york judge doing shipping american citizen children out of their own country. it's unconstitutional. california said it couldn't happen. the father agreed to it. what is going on here? >> yeah. kelly, when people hear some of the facts and the fact that your two children are solely u.s. citizens they find this very hard to understand as i'm sure you do too. what do you tell the children about what you're doing or where you go from here? >> i just -- what do i tell my children? that i love them and they know i love them. and no matter what you know their well-being has been my priority. i peek to them positively about their father about the situation in a way that you know i want them to come
through this and assume something wrong happened. and they can read about it later. i think it's important for me to honor them through this process. they are my priority. i've flown over there a million times and done what everyone has asked me to do. and it's just really it just seems to lack any common sense what's going on from a parent's perspective. >> well we've continued to follow this story. we'll continue to follow it. we know this is far from over. they're very young and it's important for both parents to have that access and time with them. thank you for coming and sharing your story tonight. keep us update zblood just ahead, our legal panel on where this international custody battle will have to go next.
. right before the break, we heard kelly rutherford's emotional comments. we turn to former prosecutor and fox news analyst and criminal defense attorney robert. thank you both for coming in. >> thank you. >> i recently covered a case within the last three or four years involving a u.s. parent, a foreign parent and it was so complicated. this issue of habitual residence. in this case it would be different if the kids hadn't gone to monaco and stayed there all the time. then it becomes their habitual residence. >> yeah. and this is a problem. the pore allowed the kids to come here in the first place was from monaco. they've been there for years.
they have their doctors, their schooling, everything. this is the issue they'll be dealing with on september 3. it will be interesting to see how it turns out. >> yes, it is very complex. jurisdictional issues from california to new york to monaco. these kids are u.s. citizens. the parent, the father the ex-husband the only reason he got the monaco thing to begin with was because he didn't have his visa work papers to be here. so kelly, to her credit i think was trying knowing that these kids have gone through enough already. trying to make it less difficult all around so let it go to monaco assuming they would come back. they're u.s. kids. i'm sorry. i'm a mom of two kids myself. been divorced and looking at that i cannot but put my parental hat on and say that's
just wrong on all sorts of different levels. this is their country. >> there was a situation set up where he would provide for airfare, for travel when she would go there. there would be a home she could use, cars she could use. some people's reaction is why doesn't she take dad up and simply move to france? >> she doesn't have to do that. the courts need to make a decision. possession is 9-10 of the law. and she is a beautiful person, a mother fighting for her child. i get this. there is a confusion in california because they no longer say they have jurisdiction. the kids are habitually residents of monaco. and the monaco court will be jurisdiction. she should take an appeal and try to square this away. >> best interests of the child. that's always what it will be. if these two kids want to be with this mother biffle the way, there has never been anything found against kelly that she has been a bad mom.
>> or him. >> either way. you can't be pinning that up. isn't there some kind of middle ground? so getting back to the law. california has punted it. now it is in new york. new york pubtd to it monaco. it is not the country where these kids have their actual citizenship. >> i respectfully disagree. both state courts have denied jurisdiction. the federal court will not get involved. the state department won't get involved. all the thing are consistent that this is not an issue for these courts here right now at this stage without an appeal to be handling. it is to be handled in monaco first whafrl you don't do is keep the kids beyond the order from monaco. >> we have to go a one word answer. if you were going on appeal in the u.s. would you appeal california or new york? >> new york. >> i would go to federal court. multiwill jurisdictions. >> you have to start in new york and then to go federal court.
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