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>> and the "fox & friends" olympics. >> maybe we'll go shorts and t-shirts the whole time. >> go big or go home. >> see you tomorrow. >> gabrielle reece after the show at foxandfriends.com. >> have a great day. donald trump set to drop in on the iowa state fair today like nobody else in his own helicopter. and unlike other candidates before him, he keeps embracing his wealth and success on the campaign trail. that one reason he's still on top in the polls. hi, everybody. i'm dagen mcdowell in for brenda buttner. and this is "bulls & bears." the bulls and bears this week, gary b. smith, jonas max ferris, john layfield along with suzy welch and david mercer. welcome, everybody. is donald's message of wealth the message america has been craving to hear? >> i don't know if they've been craving to hear it, but they're tired of political correctness.
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mitt romney was an affable guy but he was overcoached. he wanted to excuse the fact he made a lot of money. can you imagine the new york yankees and you've got a guy that comes along and says i'm a hardworking guy, i'm just like the rest of you, great, i don't want him to be the captain. i want derek jeter to be the captain. i want successful people to be president. this idea that america has, hey, i'm just a working stiff like everybody else, that doesn't work when you're running for the highest office in the land, the most powerful position in the entire world. donald trump, whether you like him or not, he doesn't run from the fact he's a successful man and, yes, the idea of this one versus 99%, that is a bunch of bonus stuff that politicians have come up with. people care about their income and that's what donald deals with. >> david, wanting to become rich is part of the american dream and is not something dirty and not something to be hidden. don't you think that donald captured some of that? >> i don't know and it's yet to be seen. i will say i don't think there's anything dirty going after the
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american dream or making money. if you compare donald trump to mitt romney, it wasn't that both were either millionaires or billionaires, it's what mitt romney did. he said that he was for creating jobs but we also found in his record shipping jobs overseas. that is what the point is. it's not begrunling anybody for the money they may make or pursuing the american dream. so i think, you know, it's yet to be seen whether those poll numbers for donald will hold up and the reason for it. but i'll ask anybody here and now, do we remember or know where michele bachmann is, who won the 2011 iowa straw poll. we don't know where she is now. >> we can go back to who was leading, joe leishman, rudy giuliani in the past. >> history is a good teacher. >> suzy, mitt romney did not certainly flaunt his wealth the way that donald trump is. he kind of tried to hide it. i'm saying this is resonating
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with people. donald trump says success. >> he says i'm not one of you. i'm very rich, an he loves himself and hi money. what bothers mitt romney, i ironed my clothes on the kitchen table. sound phony. donald sounds authentic. the other piece is autonomy, he can't be bought and sold. he says i'm rich, money's okay, he earned it or whatever, but it's about saying nobody owns me, nobody can buy me, nobody can sell me. i only have to answer to myself. that is the part of the message that's resonating. >> gary b., something that also didn't ring true when hillary clinton was talking about we were dead broke when we got out of the white house, dead broke is not what you were. donald trump does not represent that. he remits, hey, i'm owning my riches. >> exactly, dagen. there's a couple points. one, i have to applaud david for somehow getting from donald
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trump's wealth to michele bachmann. i didn't think you could make that leap. >> he's leading in the polls. >> you had your shot, buddy. had your shot. let me have mine now. >> you took a shot so i'm coming back. >> oh my gosh. look, the point that dagen made and i think suzy put to eloquently is that donald trump, like him, love him, loathe him, whatever, he embraces his wealth. i think that's a good thing. i think that's what the american public is finally looking for. they're looking for someone to say, hey, you know what? it's okay to go out there and earn a lot of money. it's okay to be wealthy. it's okay to work your you know what off and be a billionaire. good for donald trump for embracing that. i think it sends a very strong signal to the american public that, you know what, it's okay to have nice things, it's okay to work hard in order to achieve things. that's where i think maybe part
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of mitt romney's mistake was. he didn't embrace his success. and he was a very successful businessman. >> and jonas, who does not want their name on a big building or a bottle of wine or a golf course? >> well, or a chopper. look, i want to say -- >> he was going to give kids ride -- he wants to give kids rides in the chopper at the iowa state fair. >> embrace my wealth, donald trump. there can be too much of a good thing. the royalty of france embraced their wealth. the czars embraced their wealth. there's a responsibility to be the billionaire with taking it down a notch with the public because that's how you lead to rising socialism. i would say the bernie sanders poll numbers are going up in proportion to trump because although many americans like wealth and think it's a success, many others are like that's a guy that needs to be taxed more on his boats and jets so i don't have to pay for x. it can be a balancing about. i think we've seen too much of wit donald trump.
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maybe there was too little with mitt romney but mike if we mad mike bloomberg, i don't think we'd be showing off and showing how rich you are. it can backfire and lead to a swingback where you get even crazier socialist policies. >> bloomberg being the new york city mayor. john, a lot of this, you look at carly fiorina, a lot of it is the fact they aren't politicians. to suzy's point, they can't be bought. they're not from the old school. people expect something different from them. >> yeah. a lot of this voting you see for donald trump, we'll see how much lasts throughout the rest of the election. freedman got 11% of the vote when he ran in texas. he was an anti-politicians. politicians have a 90% disapproval rate. one of the appeals of people like carly fiorina and donald trump and one of the negatives against ms. clinton. she's a very rich person. they have contacts all over the
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world. they've made a lot of money. there's nothing wrong with that as long as they made it ethically and legally, but they don't want to embrace that because they are scared about the 99%. this 99% was completely trumped up by political parties trying to get popular. that's how you start socialism, not people getting rich and flaunting it. >> the czars and the french royalty, that was not an elected office, jonas. >> but about like he can't be bought. viable but in a different way. multilevel market. condos that failed. >> what's wrong with having a job that pays you well? >> donald trump is available to the -- >> i don't go wrong with it. >> i'm just saying a guy saying you can't buy him. a lot of people say he was bought. maybe not in the way he bought hillary clinton like he claimed but there are companies of questionable caliber that paid him for endorsements. it will come out and
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eventually -- >> and people won't care. >> i welcome it. >> let seussy speak and i'll get to you. >> may be right about whether or not he can bought or sold but he looks like he's real or telling the truth. in many ways this election will be a referendum on trust and realism. that is why bernie sanders' numbers are also going up. he says it like it is like donald trump. people want the truth. >> david, i bet you he's got legs with this. >> i don't think so. and i love that donald trump hour we're spending. andly say i welcome the republican party to consider trading in a billionaire for a millionaire as the nominees for the party in 2016. we love that. bring it on. we'll go from there. i think it's a great idea. >> gary b.? >> first of all, david is a party pooler. you can just tell. >> i'm the same party person. >> but here's the thing. not only does trump embrace it,
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he enjoys it. he gets up there and you can tell he probably enjoys his wealth. i think that puts kind of a smile on people's face. he doesn't rub his wealth in their face. he just says i'm rich, i enjoy it. and i think finally after all these years of this horrible obama administration where most of the people out there aren't even working, it's nice for someone to get thereupon and say, hey, you know what, it's okay to be happy, it's okay to go out and make a lot of money. i think that's a good thing. >> and he does work. he does work. but he need to stop the name-calling. that's my only piece of advice. thank you, guys and suzy. cavuto on business is in about 20 minutes from now. hey, neil, kwhaf you got coming up? >> hey, dagen. forget what does or does not turn up on hillary clinton's servers. are the money guys more worried about her poll numbers turning down? and unions pull a fast one
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on fast food workers? we'll see you at the bottom of the hour. >> thank you, neil. we can't wait. up here first, forget republicans. is the white house making the best case against the iran nuke deal? we play the tape. you decide. and i didn't get here alone. there were people who listened along the way. people who gave me options. kept me on track. and through it all, my retirement never got left behind. so today, i'm prepared for anything we may want tomorrow to be. every someday needs a plan. let's talk about your old 401(k) today. hi mi'm raph. tom. my name is anne. i'm one of the real live attorneys you can talk to through legalzoom. don't let unanswered legal questions hold you up, because we're here, we're here, and we've got your back. legalzoom. legal help is here.
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the atrocities committed by isis getting even longer. u.s. intelligence officials telling the family of kayla mueller that she was repeatedly raped by the leader of the estate al baghdadi. she was taken hostage in august 2013 in syria. the u.s. confirmed she was killed in isis captivity last february. yesterday would have been her 27th birthday. and that chinese explosion is even worse. authorities ordering people today to evacuate a near hi li two-mile zone around the port city of tianjin. the wind is changing direction, threatening to contaminate the
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area with chemicals. it started wednesday after two massive explosions rocked a warehouse storing hazardous materials. smoke and flames can still be seen shooting through the sky today. the death toll at 85. that's the latest. i'm eric shawn, fox news. more democratic lawmakers coming out for and against the iran nuclear deal as the deadline for congressional approval nears. ironically, is it what the white house has been saying that could actually kill this deal? take a listen. >> 15 years from now, as some provisions expire, what is iran's breakout time going to be? >> well, it shrinks back down to roughly where it is now. >> which is close to zero? >> well, which is a matter of months. >> we should expect that some portion of that money would go to the iranian military and could potentially be used for the kinds of bad behavior that we have seen in the region up until now. >> secretary kerry, have you
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read either of these two side bills between the iaea and iran? i haven't read it. i've been briefed through our team that met with the iaea. >> 58% of the american people are saying kill this deal. what do you think? >> i think 58% of the american people think we should kill the deal, be, i think the administration loves this deal. i think they're not trying to hedge their bet, they don't have buyer's remorse. they believe this is the best deal nape think it's a nobel peace prize-worthy deal. they strongly support it. they come from a place totally different ideological mind-set. they believe america is one of many nations and we have to play with other nations in a certain way where we accommodate a nation like iran. they don't believe as the opponents do that america is special and bigger and different and has the ability and the power to close down iran. so i think they love this deal.
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they're accidentally making the case against it. they're not trying to. >> i'll say this, john, a lot of what you hear coming out of the white house, things that they're saying are reasons that people cite for opposing the deal. i point to congressman al hastings, a democrat, and he's talking about allowing iran to remain a nuclear threshold state. you talk about they're going to be funneling money to hezbollah, you name it. that's why he's voting against it. >> yeah, and they'll are have the money to do that. suzy is right. this is an ideological bent if they think some deal is better than no deal. 1969, sanctions start. it took decades to get to the point to get iran to the table. they're going to allow an influx of $150 billion, we'll lift the embargo where they can buy weapons and ballistic missiles. in 15 years they'll be one of
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the richest countries in the world. they're going to have a well-funded army, a great infrastructure. right now they have lost the confidence of their own people. and we are going to allow that to happen. then they can get a nuclear weapon. this is a no-lose deal for iran, a xleez lose deal for the united states and our allies. >> david, let me guess, if you could vote for it, you would. >> i would vote for it and i would alongside the majority of jewish americans that support the deal in contrast to the poll that you mentioned earlier. and with regard to, you know, the overall at least echoing of sentiment in opposition to this deal, you know, i just go back to history again. you know, we can negotiate with china and have nixon go to china during the cold war or we can have arms for hostages deal that reagan swore off, but we found out he did. but we can't bring stability with the nuclear arms that iran
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is starting or wants to achieve and put that to rest and stabilize the region. it was the iraq war that destabilized the region and made it more of a haven for jihadists in syria and -- >> david, do you want to go back in history, go back to neville chamberlain nap's the best example in history of this buffoonery. >> a lot of people are thinking this will start a nuclear arms race in the middle east. >> epg land has a nuclear weapon and israel has one soshg there's more of a buffer there. look, the bottom line is, sanctions -- >> hitler had a nuclear bomb? >> no, the british did not have one so they had to make a deal, but the bottom line is countries have nuclear weapons against iran, they get out of line. they can make one bomb -- >> you just made my point. >> it's easy to criticize this
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deal because there's no good solution with iran any more than there's a good one with north korea or russia or cuba. sanctions do not lead to regime change. we saw that in cuba. >> -- the reason iran was brought to the table in the first place. >> we tried it with russia. it's not working. >> after all those european countries started dealing with iran -- >> didn't stop north korea from developing a nuclear weapon program. the point is our best partners are countries that have companies that are developed and not owned by the government. >> no, no, no. >> when you have sanctions you can't allow that to development. >> i get the final say. gary b. >> couple points. one, most jewish americans support it because most jewish americans identify more with the democratic party than they do with israel. that's point one. two, i dils agree with suzy. i think the administration is either dumb or they're the most undisciplined administration out there because when they were talking about obamacare, neve
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was heard a negative word. here, i think they are trying to hedge their bets. >> final word. thank you, everybody. coming up, forget about paying to check your luggage. how about paying for your extra pounds? ♪ i built my business with passion. but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy for my studio. ♪ and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business... that's huge for my bottom line. what's in your wallet?
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coming up, think twice about what you eat before booring that plane because if someone here has his way, you could be paying for it. my name is mark amann. i'm a gas service rep for pg&e in san jose. as a gas service rep we are basically the ambassador of the company. we make the most contact with the customers on a daily basis. i work hand-in-hand with crews to make sure our gas pipes are safe. my wife and i are both from san jose. my kids and their friends live in this community. every time i go to a customer's house, their children could be friends with my children so it's important to me. one of the most rewarding parts of this job
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is after you help a customer, seeing a smile on their face. together, we're building a better california. watching what you pack and what you eat. uzbekistan airlines weighing people and their bags before getting on the plane saying it's for safety airlines. jonas, you say all airlines should do it and charge passengers by the pound. and you're nuts.
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>> i think it's fair. it's going to happen pap flat rate, it's communism. a few weeks ago i got a battery mailed in the mail by u.s. flat rate. how do they pay $3 for a whole heavy battery? they took advantage of flat rate's pricing. u.p.s. would not have charged that little because they charge by weight and size, which is how you ship stuff. the airlines are in the live animal shipping business, which happens to be people. your babies, your stuff, your bags. plus or minus based on your weight. this thing with the bags when they charge extra -- >> this is how it's going to go. they're going to weigh the first woman in the united states and she's going to hit somebody in the face and it's going to be over. >> i thought jonas would surprise me and he did. school doesn't charge you by how stupid or smart your child is. these planes are many, many times -- over time it's a wash about who's on them, targeting people, it's a revenue stream. another way for airlines to make money by charging you for your
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bags. frankly we don't need to debate it that long. this will go into twittersphere and the hate storm will humiliate some poor child with diabetes who's overweight and made fun of in the passenger lounge and it will all be over. >> john, what do you think about it? >> of course jonas -- if he lost any weight you'd have to file a missing perps report he's so skinny. he weighs 110 pounds. this will never work. you going to hire a kentucky derby jockey for your company to save matchup? the first woman that steps on this is going to punch somebody. >> gary b.? >> i don't think it's horrible at all. if they want you to quack like a duck when you get in a line shgt they should do that. it's a private enterprise. i think it's horrible i have to wait in starbucks for 20 minutes while the other people ahead of me order complicated drinks. they're allowed to do what they want. go ahead, weigh them. >> southwest charges you for two seats if you can't fit in one.
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right? >> oil pries are down, they're making a boatload of money, the air marshals. to tack on a fee like this i think will not work and there will be an outrage. it's not going to happen. >> it's bush's fault. >> the skinny mini over here, pipe down, thank you to suzy and david for joining us. skinny mini and the other two will be right back. "cashin' in" is up in just over an hour. eric, what do you guys have coming up? >> donald trump sounds off after police say another american was murdered by an illegal immigrant. plus, target facing backlash for planning to make its stores gender neutral. sh a good or bad business decision? "cashin' in." see you at 11:30. >> thank you, eric. we'll be watching. here first, what if i told you you never have to mow the lawn again?
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it, up 20%. >> gary b. >> can't by a rumba lawn mower yet but you can by toro. >> jonas. >> we need the rain. good for whole foods. >> that's it. good-bye. forget hillary clinton's server. look at the poll numbers voters are serving up. hi, everyone. glad to have you. i'm neil cavuto. fl katie pavelich is right, and she's never wrong, of course, ignore a democratic money guy, you are not waiting to see what is coming out. you are cashing out. adam lashinsky, scott martin. the money guys, the donors are getting nervous and shopping around. >> they've looked at hillary clinton in the beginning an said she is the inevitable nominee, we want her to be the first female president. she's been want this for years. she's rae to go. had time during the obama administration to get better at campaigning. here we are and she hasn't gotten better as a candidate.

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