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please set your dvr. when you're not here we miss you. thanks for being with us. see you back here tomorrow night. comes greta and sro. this is a fox news alert. donald trump speaking to reporters in new hampshire ahead of a town hall speech. let's listen. >> go ahead. well, somebody wrote an article that i was a whiner, that i complained, and i said, you know, he's actually right. i do complain. because our country is in trouble. we are run by people that are either not smart, perhaps they're incompetent. perhaps they have a bad agenda, which i actually don't believe. i think they're just not very good at what they do. i think they're incompetent. he said i'm a whiner. i'm a complainer. and i am. i said i complain and i complain
and i whine and i whine until i win. and i will win for the american people. we're going to great trade deals. we're going to have a strong military. we're going to take care of our vets. we're going to take care of the country. we're going to get rid of obamacare and come up with something speck ttacular that w be better for people. look at what's happening with the premiums with obamacare. look at the premiums. they're going up through the roof. up 40%, 45, 50%, we will make our country great again. all right. maybe one more question. okay. two more. jeb bush is a low energy person. for him to get things done is hard. he's very low energy. go ahead. yeah. you know, what we spend on illegal immigration right now.
we're spending $130 billion a year. so if we can spend a similar amount and not have the problem, it will the be phenomenal. it's a good deal. it's a one-year payback. you know, not that i'm looking at that. but we do need it. hey, we are losing at a country on a yearly basis. billions and billions beyond anybody. they can't even believe it. trade deals. you look at what we're talking with illegal immigration. we have to straighten things out. building the wall is something that has to happen. it's not expensive. the reason it looks expensive is because you have people working on it that don't know what they're doing. it's not expensive. and that wall will save us. the one thing i have to get before we leave. i want people to come into the country. i want talented people to come
in. great workers, great talent, i want a lot of people to come into the country, but they have to come in illegally. i love that question. what a good guy. who are you? this is a great guy. why can't you ask me a question like that? look, we are crossing them. it's very interesting. north carolina just came out, a poll just came out. public policy polling. and i'm leading in north carolina by a lot. and i'm leading against hillary clinton by a lot. and very important place and very important state, and a great state. and they went over the numbers. and so did many of the other polling companies. and i draw from democrats, and i draw from conservatives and tea party, and i draw from
everybody. and people are surprised straight across the board. but we draw more than anybody else from the democrats. and that's good. ultimately we're going to have to do that if we're going to win. go ahead, one question. you look so nice. i don't have to. you know, all i have to do is take a look at the polls. you know what, that's changing. excuse me. say it legitimately. how much has that changed in the last three or four weeks? and in new hampshire it's so positive. and in, by the way, iowa it's so positive. because they've gotten to know me. i've been here a lot, and i've been to iowa a lot and south carolina a lot, where we have incredible numbers. and in the places where i go, my favorability is through the roof. including new hampshire. okay. i'm going to have to go. all right, one from you, but it's always a negative question from -- go ahead. can you ask a positive question? let's see if it's possible. major's question. what? if necessary, i would do that,
yes. we have to stop. i didn't want to do iraq. it was a big mistake. it should have never hamd. the way we got out was also a big mistake. wre cannot let isis continue to do what they're doing. so if necessary, the answer is yes, okay. thank you, everybody. >> donald trump wrapping up his q&a with reporters, but the night just getting started in new hampshire. we'll be checking in with trump's town hall as soon as that begins. we're also going to listen into a town hall governor bush is holding in the same state of new hampshire. that's this hour as well. we'll be taking you to both places live coming up. but right now, brand new questions swirling around secretary of state hxz. the e-mail scandal is not going away. fox news learned it was two e-mails from top clinton aides with classified intelligence information that sparked the investigation into the mishandling of classified information. plus, brand new fallout over her questions from our own ed henry.
>> you know, i have no idea. that's why we turned it over. >> you were in charge of it. you were the official in charge. did you wipe it clean? >> with a cloth or something. >> i don't know. >> i don't know how it works. i do not have any. and i know you want to make a point, and i can just repeat what i have said. >> is there indication that this issue isn't going to go away from your campaigns? >> that was secretary clinton handling this. karl rove joins me. the clinton campaign held a conference call late this evening. apparently these e-mails were not classified, but nonetheless, the confusion and the dispute goes on. is so if you were advising secretary clinton,ow would you tell her to handle it based on where we are tonight, where she is on this tonight. >> well, first of all, understand that it's a serious
issue. she just missed it by trying to tell a bad joke about how she liked her snap chat account because the messages all disappeared on their own. you know, she's got to treat this seriously. i mean, her first response to ed henry was completely evasive. she stuttered and said i don't know. i don't know. so first of all, treat it as a serious issue. second of all, be careful about what you say. because she's continually making statements that turn out not to be true. take this one here that we're dealing with right now. her campaign says these were not classified at the time they were sent to her. the cia does not agree with them. that's why the inspector general of the cia and the state department referred this matter to the justice department and to the fbi. so be careful about saying things that turn out not to be true. we were told that she wanted, and in the other -- in her exchange with ed henry, she said, i'm cooperating. i want them to have the server.
well, she wasn't cooperating. she refused to turn over the server to anybody. she was compelled by an fbi investigation. so she needs to be careful about what she says. she's undermining her own credible. if she did this on the basis of legal advice. if she thought about this, they said emphatically that she repeated it again recently, that this was legal. that the laws and the rules allowed and permitted it. she ought to put up the laws and rules that think shes allowed her to have a private e-mail server in her house or one kept in the bathroom of a small web server company in denver, colorado, in the closet of a bathroom to conduct national foreign policy secrets and intelligence information on.
>> yeah, well, there's not a lot that they need or should do about it. i do think they ought to say they're worried about the effect on the democrat's chances to hold the white house in the fall of 2016 and leave it at that. this thing has a life of it's own. it's going to continue. secretary clinton is going to be speaking in october before the house select committee on benghazi. she's going to have to answer a lot of questions about this. there are going to be monthly releases of e-mails directed by the judge. there's an ongoing fbi investigation. there's plenty to keep the story alive. if she wants to get it behind her, she's got to be completely forthcoming, and she has to express some regret for having done this. i think what's going to turn out is that she did not talk to a single lawyer in the state department office of legal
advice, and that she got no lawyer to take a look at this. nobody studied the rules and regulations. and in a reckless move, she allowed confidential, classified and top secret information to flow over an unprotected and unsecure network. and she's got to show regret about this in order to begin to put this thing behind her. >> carl, thank you. and the plot thickens. new information about the i.t. company in charge of hillary clinton's private e-mail server. the company is now getting a taste of what it's like o be at the ecenter of presidential politics. rosalind, nice to see you. what do you learn from speaking with the representatives of the country? >> i've learned this is not a fun experience for them the past few weeks or so.
they say 85% of their clients are located within an hour of the denver metro area. and since they took on the management of the hillary clinton server in 2013 a few months after she left office, they've been getting hate calls and twitter attacks. it's not been fun for them. the executive told me we're normal people. we're not used to this. >> are they democratic donors or how did they get the account to begin with. >> that's a really interesting question we haven't been able to figure out. the clinton campaign has not answered our questions about that. they do not appear to have strong political ties. we're still working on that, but the top executives have not given political donations. they have not worked previously for large scale campaigns. we found they did $990 worth of work for a short lived gubernatorial campaign in colorado, and that's pretty much it. and so they say they submitted a proposal to the clintons, bill and hillary clinton in 2013 and were hired. they did not tell us it was one of the questions we asked that
they didn't answer, how they knew that that opportunity existed to submit the proposal. >> any indication of money involved? >> we really don't know. i spoke to one former employee who speculated for normal people a server like this would not be big business. it's one server for a few e-mail accounts. you have to imagine that given the level of the clintons that they were probably paying some premium. >> and coming to success story, well respected in the denver community. >> it seems to me they won the small business of the year from the denver chamber of commerce in 2012. they were runner-up for best i.t. company in a local business magazine this year. so they seem to be respected, but small and unusual choice for this level of activity. >> i'm sure rosalind, you will have more information on this. i suspect you will do more reporting on this. thank you very much. >> thank you, this is a fox news alert. we are awaiting donald trump
speaking in new hampshire. you will see the town hall right here. first jeb bush is giving a town hall in the the same state of new hampshire. let's listen. >> we also use them as mentors in the schools buzz we launched this initiative of wanting to have 200,000 mentors in schools where they were in relationships at least once a week with students that were struggling readers. one of the reasons why we have the greatest gains in reading, apart from our accountability was that we opened up the schools to allow for more people to volunteer. and the americorps volunteers played a big role in that. it gives people the opportunity to volunteer at a young age. that's extremely important. i just said yeah. that's the third time now. >> you've covered a number of subjects, and i have some concerns about terrorism and jobs and various criminals
coming across the borders. >> right. >> we have a heroin problem here in new hampshire. and would you please speak about those? >> sure. this afternoon wasn't a press event, but because i hear this all the time, the heroin challenge that exists, and the first time i started hearing about it was here in new hampshire. but it's all over the country now. and so i went to a round table discussion to talk about the recovery movement in our country as a way to deal with this. in florida we dealt with it in a comprehensive way, sheriff. we got law enforcement to get involved. we expanded treatment, and we created prevention facilities, prevention coalitions in all the counties. but when we talked about today was not just having the next leg, the most important leg, perhaps, is to have an ongoing effort of recognizing that addiction is a lifetime challenge and you need a
recovery and philosophy about this and people need to stay together in this regard. and look, i have personal experience in this, just as a dad, and it is the most heartbreaking thing in the world to go through. so i'm all in in strategies to deal with this. >> there's so much going on in new hampshire right now. also in new hampshire right now, donald trump drawing a huge crowd. we are taking you there live coming up. coming up. so you're a small business expert from at&t? yeah, give me a problem and i've got the solution. well, we have 30 years of customer records. our cloud can keep them safe and accessible anywhere. my drivers don't have time to fill out forms. tablets. keep it all digital. we're looking to double our deliveries. our fleet apps will find the fastest route. oh, and your boysenberry apple scones smell about done. ahh, you're good. i like to bake. add new business services with at&t and get up to $500 in total savings.
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scandal. now that we know more about the tech firm, let's look inside secretary clinton's controversy. we investigate what the server looked like, the range in size. how the server worked. >> hi, greta. >> so what do you have there on the set? >> this is what you're going to find in data center at amazon, at google, at microsoft. this is a one rack unit server. >> can you pick it up a little bit and let us see it. looks heavy. all right. and any idea -- i take it servers come in different sizes? >> pretty much, these are standard. you're going to see this that's the hard drive. that's how easy it is to pull out of that. now you'll see these twice the size where they're going to put the hard drives in like this. this will hold 24 going this way. and how much can this contain? >> that contains 300 gigs.
if you put ten on this, that would be the library of congress. it would be 25 million pages stacked ten miles high. >> so secretary clinton doesn't need more than this? >> absolutely not. this is more than enough to handle her traffic. >> when we hear she has a server at home, that's what she had? >> we don't know for sure. if somebody installed it and took it to a data center, it would have to be something like this to support and integrate it. definitely like that, when you say we're going to manager it for you, you'll have something like this. >> we understand it went from her home to a data center in n transferred to denver. how was it transferred? by the hard drive and server? >> ftp, you would have the server here in new jersey. you have the server here in denver. you're going to transfer this information from one server to
another. >> is that secure? >> no. >> so that would be a potentially dangerous point. you can keep the server secure at home, maybe in new jersey, and keep the data secure in denver, but the transfer from new jersey to denver is the risk. >> yeah. we don't know who did the transfer, what protocols they followed, who had authority, who had access? who had the passwords. if any of them saw the server compromise, they would be copying it all. >> can you wipe that clean? >> you can. i won't tell you how. but it is possible. you can physically destroy the drive. this is what the nsa does. you can do different types of formats. the more you do, the more destruct i it becomes. >> what if i hit the delete button for e-mails? >> it has to be done professionally. >> it has to be done professionally. the more you do, the tougher it is for the fbi. i train guys on how to recover for this. i will tell you, the more times
you wipe it becomes extremely tough to do that. if it was just a simple wipe, that could be recovered fairly easily with the technology the fbi has. >> we need to get more information and find out what happened. >> new portable e-mail server. >> indeed. morgan, thank you. >> thanks, greta. >> and right now in new hampshire, gop presidential front-runner donald trump drawing a huge crowd. we'll take you there live coming up. and a political panel is and a political panel is standing you drop 40 grand on a new set of wheels, then... wham! a minivan t-bones you. guess what: your insurance company will only give you 37-thousand to replace it. "depreciation" they claim. "how can my car depreciate before it's first oil change?" you ask. maybe the better question is, why do you have that insurance company? with liberty mutual new car replacement, we'll replace the full value of your car. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance.
fox news alert. at any moment, donald trump, the gop front-runner is taking to the podium in new hampshire. right now chief political correspondent byron york. what do you expect that donald trump is going to do tonight? >> another trump performance. i think we saw he gave a news conference before. and by the way, his news conferences are the anti-obama. he takes questions after questions after questions. he hasn't done many town halls. he did take questions after an event last week in new hampshire. he handled the voters as quickly as he handles the press. most would give them a little more lee way, but i expect him to go bang, bang, bang through the questions. >> why is it he's getting these big crowds. >> i think there's an element of his support into the campaign.
more than bernie sanders, donald trump is someone who maybe people who don't support him are going to come to see. he's very entertaining. we're all watching the press conference and town halls as they unfold. but i'm sure he's more than happy to have that be a part of the exam pacampaign. >> there's no dueling town halls tonight. we just showed governor jeb bush a moment ago. he's in the corner of the screen right now. show us how important new hampshire in is and how they're hustling for the votes. >> a huge contrast. if you looked a t the town hall, very detailed. talk about what he did with education in florida and other pards of his record. trump is going to be an overview. he doesn't get to policy. he says we have to do this. we have to do that. two different views of being an
executive in the town halls. >> it's amazing. it's extraordinary. everybody wants to hear donald trump. it's taking the states by storm. >> and it's interesting that the town halls are taking place nine miles apart. this is a small state. and jeb bush is a huge contrast to donald trump. he's very wonky and understated. trump really went after bush. he went after him on the common core, on immigration, on women's health issues, on iraq. he went through a laundry list of things. i think he feels if he can kill off jeb bush this early in the campaign, maybe he can insert a bigger lead than he already has. >> and he add that had governor jeb bush was unelectable. >> yes, he called him a low-energy person. trump is really, really tapped in to that part of the republican base. that didn't like jeb bush anyway. they're the people who didn't
want mitt romney either. he's really connected with them. >> you know i think the money issue is how governor romney ran away from the money endonald trump says i have a lot of money. i'm so successfulful. i know how to get things done. >> donald trump, in fact, half an hour ago, said mitt romney wasn't that rich. he was asked about romney's wealth. he says, he's not really that rich. it's what makes donald trump, donald trump. he's using the wealth as a way to say i can't be bought and i'm going to be my own man in the white house. i think that appeals to a healthy cross section of americans. >> and i'm being told he's about to walk out to the crowd. we can see the podium. he isn't out there now. dr. ben carson doing well in arizona. >> well, a thousand people. that is a lot of people. at this stage or any stage of the race. i think a lot of the commentators, they thought carson did finement they didn't see anything special. i think a lot of viewers really,
really liked what they saw. >> here he is grabbing the flag. he's a showman, pointing out the flag. giving it a tap. this is the first town hall for donald trump. let's listen. >> thank you. thank you. wow. you know, and i say it -- the silent majority is back. we really are in a position that we haven't been in in a long time. the people are speaking. it's an amazing thing. it's like a movement, and this is happening, and so many other things. on friday i'm going to be in alabama, and it was going to be 500 people, and the room held about a thousand, and they heard that we were there, and within about two minutes that room wasn't big enough. so they went to a room that held 2,000 people. and they heard that wasn't big
enough. and now they went to the convention center, and they heard that wasn't big enough. there are going to end up to being 30,000 to 40,000 people in alabama. so -- [ cheering ] and new hampshire has been so amazing, i mean, the relationship i've developed with so many people even in the room has been -- they're incredible people. somebody said -- i left new york, and they said, what are they like in new hampshire? i said, you know what they're like, they're hard working people that love the country. that's what they're like. [ cheering ] and you know, right down the road -- thank you -- right down the road we have jeb. very small crowd. we have 2,500. you have the best real estate, by the way. you have the best real estate. there are other rooms. the overflow rooms all over the building. they have closed circuit television that people outside with speakers.
so i give you credit, and to the other folks, i have to say, we love you equally as much, but the next time you got to get here a little bit earlier, right? but you know, i look at what's wrong with even our party, and the other day, and i say it very strongly. i heard that jeb bush, that marco rubio, that governor walker -- who? who? that's what they're saying. who? they're going to spend a huge amount of money on fighting trump. and i say, i think that's okay. haven't you sort of heard everything already? it's like sort of getting boring. but they -- you know, jeb has $114 million. the others have a lot. hillary has 60. i think hillary is in big trouble, by the way, folks. i think so. [ cheering ] so i heard the other day that
the three of them are going to spend a lot of money on negative ads about me. so i think, you know, you can listen, listen -- you're fired. but i just heard it. they said they're going to spend -- i love these rowdy crowds. isn't it great? this is spirit. there's spirit. you know why? i'll tell you why. you know what's happening to jeb's crowd, as you know, right down the street? is they're sleeping. they're sleeping now. but you know, i saw that jeb made a statement, and i wrote it down because i couldn't even -- i couldn't even believe it. we're talking about iraq, okay. now we're in for $2 trillion. thousands of lives. thousands, great people, great people. wounded warriors who are the best. and we love our wounded
warriors. they're great warriors. and they're all over. we love them. and jeb made the possibility of going back to iraq. he said, i give you the exact cause. the iraqis want our help. we don't know if there is an iraq. every time the bullet is fired they run. they leave the humvees. they drop the equipment. you know, the the enemy has our best equipment. we have the old stuff. so he said the iraqis want our help. listen to this. this is after all we have spent. they want to know that we have skin in the game. can you believe it? after years of fighting unsuccessfully because of the way we fight, i mean, we should -- can you believe skin in the game? and i thought that was incredibly dumb. as dumb as, on immigration, an act of love. it's an act of love when they
come in. it's an act of love. [ crowd booing ] or a belief in common core. jeb was supposed to do well in new hampshire. how the hell does he do well? that means your children are going to be educated by the bureaucrats in washington. i think new hampshire wants to educate their children locally. do we agree with that? do we agree? so our problem is -- what's that? oh, my group. these are my people. these are my people. i don't mind if you shout out. be careful of your language
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this is a fox news alert. let's go back to donald trump. >> that's what politicians do, they lose, they run, but for a person to come out of the private sector, especially somebody that's had great achievement, john mclaughlin, a good guy, he was arguing with one of the people, he said, i don't understand you. he said, this is a man of great accomplishment or achievement. why do you think he shouldn't run? i saw it with some of the people when i was on the debate, which by the way the polls all said i won the debate. can you believe it? [ applause ] if you listen -- and my
questions were slightly harder than everybody else's. do we agree? a little bit harder. but, but i have seen some of the things that i've seen in the political circuit. it really does take a certain amount of courage and when i made that decision, that final decision, i'll tell you, it went right up to the wire. i just took a deep breath and i said here we go. and i said, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to make our country great, i'm running for president and i said, ah, i've done it. because i want to do something so special. as well as i've done in business and all of that, it's so much -- this is so much more important what i'm doing now. it's just so much more -- i'm building buildings. think of this one, i'm building one on pennsylvania avenue between the white house and congress, the old post office, okay? it's great. it's by the way, under budget and ahead of schedule.
isn't that nice? it will open far ahead of schedule, it will be one of the great hotels of the world. i love doing that. i do great stuff. but that's all -- this is so important. that won't even matter if our country falls apart. and our country is falling apart. and i just wanted to do this. i will build the greatest wall that you've ever seen. [ applause ] and i would never do this myself, but i hope it's going to be so -- it will even look great. >> we'll be right back. stay with us. prep trauma unit 5. what've we got? bp 64/40 sterilize sites. multiple foreign objects in the body. tweezers. (buzz!)
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we investigate how the company works and we're joined live from denver. >> reporter: hi, greta. about all we know for sure is it's unusual that an obscure, i.t. firm founded here in denver in 2002 finds itself in the middle of an e-mail controversy involving hillary clinton. the company was founded by two i.t. professionals in 2002. it was founded in a loft, and we are told reportedly that at one point, the servers for this small i.t. company was located in the bathroom of the loft closet. so this is not a company you would suspect that in 2013 would get the contract after secretary clinton left the state department to take over her private e-mail server. we will be looking into a lot more of this in the days to come to try to bring to you why this
little firm found itself with a connection to hillary clinton. >> good night from washington, d.c. we'll see you tomorrow night. tonight on "red eye." carly fiorina posts a yelp review. good. i have been dying to know her take on chipotle. and hillary clinton answers questions, but is a shrug an answer? and donald trump can't remember the last time he apologized. is he telling the truth or like hillary, is he having a senior moment? our panel provides stories and nourish meant. first, a news break. >> live from america's news headquarters i'm patricia stark. firefighting efforts turning tragic in washington state. a fire in oak -