The Real Story With Gretchen Carlson FOX News September 3, 2015 11:06am-11:37am PDT
tracks with what we've seen in these polls. trump is dominant in pretty much all of these polls. really, the stunning numbers are internal, these favorability numbers that have just shifted dramatically from -- to favorable for trump in recent weeks. and that has been -- had been upside down. the biggest favorability is for dr. ben carson who has seen a surge. his favorability is up to 81%, for example, in iowa. that's unheard of. so i think he'll be a focus of attention pretty soon before that next debate. >> all right. since you brought up the favorability. let's bring that up before we do the next head-to-head matchup. here is the favorability that you were talking about in iowa. trump favorable 61%. unfavorable 35%. you're right. that's totally flip-flopped. in may he was at 27% favorable and 63% unfavorable. i mean, could it be, bret, that
this is here -- as we've been talking about the last couple weeks -- oh, here i comes. here he is, bret. hold on. >> mr. donald j. trump. [ cheers and applause ] >> thank you very much, everybody. thank you for all being here. this is some turnout. my great honor. the chairman just left, as you probably know. and he has been extremely fair. the rnc has been absolutely terrific over the last two-month period. and as you know, that's what i've wanted. i've wanted fairness. i don't have to be treated any differently than anybody else. i just wanted fairness from the republican party. we're leading in every single poll, a new poll came out today where we're over 30%. we've actually hit numbers as high as 35% and 40%.
and frankly i felt that the absolute best way to win and to beat the democrats and very easily i think beat the democrats, no matter who it may be, whether it's hillary or anybody else -- and i think maybe hillary is going to have a very hard time, frankly, with what's happening getting to the starting gate. the best way for the republicans to win is if i win the nomination and go directly against whoever they happen to put up. and for that reason, i have signed the pledge. [ cheers and applause ] >> so i will be totally pledging my allegiance to the republican party and the conservative principles for which it stand. and we will go out and we will fight hard and we will win.
we will win. and most importantly, we will make our country great again because that's what it's all about. we have to make our country great again. with that, are there any questions? [ inaudible question ] >> this is a self-funded campaign. we have our heart in it. we have our soul in it. i don't need money. i don't want money. and this is going to be a campaign like i think no other. i am not controlled by lobbyists. i am not controlled by anybody. i'm controlled by the people of the country in order to make our country great again. yes, sir.
[ inaudible question ] >> i got nothing. the question is what did i get for signing the pledge? absolutely nothing other than the assurance that i would be treated fairley. i've seen that over the last few months. >> reporter: do you have any intention of changing your mind? >> no, i have no intention of changing my mind. >> i think the big thing, dana, that's changed -- and it's been obvious to all. number one, after i announced, we went up like a rocket ship. nobody thought i would run. they said, oh, he won't run. he won't put in his papers and he won't do all of this. i did that. the papers in terms of the company turned out to be spectacular. it's a great company. i built a great company. and all of the other papers have turned out to be very well received. and i think the thing that changed is the fact that i went to number one place very quickly after i signed and after i, in this building, notified everybody that i would be running for president.
so i think the biggest thing is that i went early to number one, and the rnc has treated me with great respect. so that was very important. yes. no. i see no circumstances under which i would tear up that pledge. [ inaudible question ] >> you don't have to be met when you're at 2%. it's one of those things. that's the way life works. and i like governor christie, by the way. well, the chairman asked if he could come up. you saw him. he was here a little while ago. and i was greatly honored that he did come up, frankly. [ inaudible question ] >> well, i think that, when you
get right down to it, we're a nation that speaks english, and i think, while we're in this nation, we should be speaking english. and that's how assimilation takes and that's how -- i mean, whether people like it or not, that's how we assimilate and that's how we go on to the next phase and the next stage. that's how people who don't speak -- i'm not just talking about spanish. i'm talking about from various parts of the world. that's how they will being successful. i think it's more appropriate to be speaking english. yes. [ inaudible question ] >> well, one of the things i want to do, and i feel very strongly, it's a country based on borders, and our country is based on laws. and when people come into the country illegally, we should not allow that. and this is not from south
carolina, this is not from mexico. this is from all over the world. when people come illegally, we cannot allow that. and i want people to come legally. i want very much to take care of our border because our southern border is a total mess. that's been proven. and interestingly, a couple of months ago when i announced i made some very strong statements about the crime and the problems that were happening, and i have been proven right. many of the people in this audience have actually apologized to me. which i very much appreciate. they haven't done it publicly. these are minor details. someday they will. the fact is that we are a nation that wants and needs borders. we're a nation that wants and needs and is based on laws. and we will make sure that that takes place. with that being said, i want people to come in to our country legally. i want to have a big, fat, beautiful, open door. i want people of great talent to
come in for silicon valley. i want engineers. i want physicists. i want people with great talent to come into the united states. when people graduate from college, you can be number one in your class at harvard or number one at yale or the wharton school of finance or princeton or stanford, and immediately if you're not a citizen of the united states, you get thrown out of the country. we want those people to stay. we want people of great talent to be in the united states, to work here, and ultimately to become a citizen. [ inaudible question ] >> i don't know enough about it to comment on it. was he jailed? i don't know much about it. no, no. yes. go ahead. [ inaudible question ] >> that's absolutely false. i -- i win at golf. i win at golf. that i can tell you.
yes. [ inaudible question ] >> well, i understand how the system works maybe better than anybody. i understand the political system, and i understand also very much a system of coming in for illegal immigrants. don't forget. if i didn't bring up the subject of illegal immigration, you wouldn't be asking the question, nobody would even be talking about immigration, and immigration and in particular illegal immigration has become a very big factor. now, a lot of bad things have happened with respect to crime since i brought it up. but if i didn't bring it up, immigration would not even be a subject that we're talking about. and it happens to be a very important subject. i have to say this. it can also be a very positive subject, because i believe so strongly in immigration, and i just -- we have to stop illegal
immigration, and we have to look forward to great immigration done in a legal manner. but if i didn't bring it up, nobody would be talking about it. nope. go ahead. [ inaudible question ] >> there is grid lock in congress right now because there is no leadership at the top. you have to be able to lead. you have to get people into your office. you have to get people -- go to them. any way you want to do it. you have to be able to lead. there is no leadership at the top. signing executive orders is not the way our country was supposed to be run. yeah. go ahead. [ inaudible question ] >> i don't want to talk about that. it's inappropriate. yes, sir. go ahead. [ inaudible question ]
>> tom brady? well, i'm -- tom brady is a very good friend of mine. he is a great guy, for those of you that don't know him. he is a very honorable and honest guy and a truly great athlete. he is really a very good friend of mine. i just spoke to him a little while ago. he is so thrilled and happy. tom brady, i think what they've done is terrible. and he has been exonerated, as i understand it, because i just heard about it. but i'm very happy for tom. as far as the commissioner is concerned, they're having a rough year. let's face it. they're having a very rough year. yeah. go ahead. [ inaudible question ] >> in europe they have tremendous problems with people going in and storming. it's a huge humanitarian problem. i just say this. the united states has tremendous problems of their own. we have infrastructure that we have to fix. we have bridges and roads and tunnels and everything is falling apart. our nation is in such trouble.
that's why, being a builder and a great builder and a very successful builder, i think will greatly help. we have so many of our own problems, including the border, including the wall which we will get built. including all of the things we have. health care, which is a mess. if you look at obama care, the premiums have gone up 45%, 50%, 55%. people are saying this is turning out to be a disaster. deductibles are through the roof. the deductibles on obamacare is through the roof. so we have a lot of problems. we have to take care of our vets. we have to build up our military. just the other day the general said that the army is in the worst shape in its history in terms of preparedness. now, for them to be in bad shape with the way we are and with the world hating us, and you look at hillary clinton -- and i have said she is the worst secretary of state in the history of this country. now, in all fairness, because of
the agreement that's about to be finalized with iran, john kerry may very well take her place. i think that agreement is a disaster for this country, for israel, for the middle east. it's going to lead to nuclear proliferation, the 24-day clause. everybody about it. we don't even get our prisoners back. you say who negotiates a thing like that? that won't happen, i can guarantee you, with a president trump. one or two more questions. yeah. [ inaudible question ] >> you'll see it later. yeah. don't want to hear it. yeah. go ahead. [ inaudible question ] >> could you say it up, please. [ inaudible question ] >> all i want them to do -- yeah. and say hello to rosanna and
greg, okay? great people. i would say, very simply, i just want to be treated like everybody else. you see, i was always the fair-haired boy, a big contributor. nobody knows the system. i was on the other side. i was the elite, the fair-haired person. once i ran i was a little bit of an outsider. i became an outsider because i was running. i wasn't supposed to run. i am the business man. people have given me credit as being a great businessman but i am not supposed to be running for office. the fact is that our country is being killed on trade by china, by japan, by mexico, both at the border and on trade. i am not knocking those countries. their leaders are much, much smarter than our leaders. they are absolutely killing us. china, taking our jobs, taking our money, taking our base. and think of this. we owe china $1.4 trillion. and we're paying them interest. we owe japan, with all of the
cars coming in, the same amount, $1.4 trillion. that's like a magic act. they send the cars in. they take our jobs. they do everything. and we owe them money. that's not going to happen with me. it's been a long time. go. [ inaudible ] >> well, jeb bush is a very nice man. i'll be honest. i think he is a very nice person. i think he is a very low-energy person, and i don't think that's what the country needs. i hear that he's going to spend a lot of money on negative ads on me. and honestly, look, he is getting the money from special interests. he is getting the money from lobbyists and his donors. and they're making him do it because he's crashing in the polls. so i don't know what's going to happen. if he spends $20 million or $25 million on negative ads, i don't know. i know that my life will continue. i just don't know. i mean, nobody has ever spent money on ads against me, but he
probably has to do that, although it would not be the way i've done it. one of the things i'm most honored about is that so far everybody that's attacked me has gone down the tubes. lindsey graham attacked me. he was at 3%. now at 0%. perry attacked me. he is getting out of the race. he is at 0. rand paul attacked me. i see the last monmouth poll came out today where i'm leading by double figures. and rand paul is down to less than 2%. and he attacked me. now jeb bush also just went down in the monmouth poll very big. so i don't know. i mean, they're going to spend -- he's going to spend b lobbyist and special interest money. remember this. they have total control over jeb and hillary and everybody else that takes that money. nobody knows the system better than me. they have total control. you understand it very well because you've been covering it
for a long time. those people that are putting up those millions of dollars have total control over your candidate. i will tell you this. nobody's putting up millions of dollars for me. i'm putting up my own money. [ cheers and applause ] >> in fact, i feel a little bit foolish. people are offering me millions and millions of dollars. you know, when you're in first place, you can collect so much money. and i keep turning them down. i feel like, am i a fool? i feel very foolish. and when i was in iowa last week, i said, what do you think? can i take one -- one man, a big lobbyist offered $5 million for my campaign. i said to the crowd in iowa. great crowd. 4,000 people. i said, can i t will you believe i'm not going to do anything. i promise you, i swear i won't do anything. they all stood up and said no, no, don't take it. the fact is i'm the only self-funder. i'm putting up my own money.
i know there have been five or six super pacs where people are forming super pacs for trump. i have nothing to do with them. as you know, you're not allowed to have anything to do with them. i don't know what they're going to do. hopefully, if they do something, it's going to be nice. i don't know anything about them. in a nutshell, i am funding my own campaign. nobody else is. when people advertise -- and i hope the voters can see this. every negative ad they see about me is paid for by lobbyists and special interests. just remember that. yeah. go ahead. [ inaudible question ] >> our country could be doing much better. we have deficits that are enormous. we have all bad trade agreements. we have an army that is not prepared. we have a military that needs help, and especially --
"60 minutes," they don't even work. okay. if anybody saw that report. the phones don't work. they're 40 years old. they have wires that are no good. nothing works. our country doesn't work. everybody wins except us. we need victories in this country. we don't have victories anymore. our country will be great again. but right now our country has major problems. yes, ma'am. [ inaudible question ] >> who is? who? yes, carly. i think it's great that she is in the debate. i was in favor of her being. i think she should be in the debate. i don't like the fact that there are 11 people now. they're not getting rid of rand paul or somebody as i understand it. they should because there are too many people. when you have 11, you're not going to hear me and you're not going to hear other people talking, and i think that's too bad. i think 11 is a lot of people.
but i was very happy that she got into the debate because, frankly, she deserved to be in the debate. okay? [ inaudible question ] >> i think maybe he is inclined not to get into the race. i think it will depend on what happens with hillary clinton. a lot of people think that she will not be able to make it legally from a criminal standpoint to the starting gate. i don't know that to be true. but i think it depends on what happens with her. i think, if she gets out, he will get in. i think if she stays in he might not. who knows. [ inaudible question ] >> oh, he's not supposed to be here because he was here, he was up in my office. he go tt the pledge and we're happy about that. we don't want anything. i told him. i said, i don't know if it's appropriate for you to be here
because i don't want anything, you know -- you guys will end up saying he's endorsing trump. that would be inappropriate for him. i suggested, frankly, that i'm fine with him not being here because i don't want anybody to think he is endorsing. as far as jeb is concerned, i watched him this morning on television. it's a little bit sad. don't forget, he was supposed to win. and he just doesn't have the energy. but what he does have is a lot of -- a lot of money. that was given to him, again, by special interests, donors and lobbyists. i just hope that, if he spends money on ads, he may not. i would spend money on positive ads about himself. if he knocks me, assuming people leave and maybe they're not a point where they're not going to leave because they're fed up with what's happening in this country, but i think they'll go to people other than jeb. yeah. go ahead.
[ inaudible question ] >> i don't know. i'm -- right now i'm interested in jobs. one thing -- one of the groups -- it was actually cnn. i shouldn't say that. but they did a very massive poll. and i came out number one in leadership, number one on the economy, number one in jobs producing. and i don't mean by number one. i mean like number one by many, many times. and i am so intent on putting people back to work in this country. you know, we have 93 million people that are not in the work force right now. 93 million. when they give up looking for a job, they take them off the stats. they take them off the statistics. we have 93 million people. we have 50 million people between poverty levels and welfare and all -- our country can be great again. we have to put people back to
work. all right. one or two more. [ inaudible question ] >> okay. would i bring my children into the administration? i will tell you they are very capable. the answer is probably not. but having them in would be very good. they're very, very capable children. second part i won't bother because it's no longer pertinent. back there. go ahead. [ inaudible question ] >> cakanye west. i'll never say bad about him. he loves trump. he says, trump is my all-time hero. kanye west, i love him. maybe in a few years i'll have to run against him so i'll take that back. but he's been so nice to me.
you people have sort of seen. i've been a counter-puncher. i only hit people when they hit me. only. kanye west has been so great. i would never say bad about him because he says such nice things about me. [ inaudible question ] >> my supporters are supporting me because i'm very competent, because they know that i'm not going to let china rip us off, i'm not going to let japan rip us off. japan is devaluing their yen, very heart for caterpillar and other companies to compete against their big tractor maker and others. we're not going to let it happen anymore. you talk about a trade imbalance. they have in japan the biggest ships you've ever seen pouring cars into los angeles. pouring them in. i have never seen anything like it. we send them beef. and they don't even want it.
it's going to end. and they're going to like us. in this building i have the largest bank in the world. right up in these elevators. it's a bank from china. by far the biggest bank in the world. i get along great with china. i get along great with japan and i get along great with mexico. i love the people. i love the people of mexico. i love the hispanics. i have thousands of hispanics right now working for me. over the years, i have employed tens of thousands of hispanics. many from mexico. i have unbelievably great relationships. in the package that we gave you, you'll see there is a poll. and i'm number one with hispanics. you saw that. number one with hispanics. so, look, for our country to be great, we have to be able to make great deals. we're going to be great at it. our military will be unbelievable. all of these things, we'll get rid of obamacare and come up with something that's much better and much less expensive.
we're going to get rid of it. we're going to repeal it. it's going to be out. should have been out a long time ago. shouldn't have ever happened. we are going to take care of our country and we're going to bring back jobs and we're going to bring back wealth to the united states so we can afford to save social security, which i'll save without cuts. so that we can afford to do the kind of things that we have to do to make america great again. ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much, and here is your pledge. [ cheers and applause ] >> we've been listening to donald trump for the last 20 minutes. there he is. and he has signed the rnc pledge that he will not run as a third-party candidate. he'll support whoever the nominee is, if it is not him. he also said -- he talked about illegal immigration. talked about tom brady, china, jobs. how he plans to make america great again. he got in a few jabs.
coming up we'll go to governor rick perry who he said is out of the race. team coverage. bret baier. we're going right back. he's answering more questions. >> it's a bubble. it's a bubble. we can't be brought down by that bubble. they've done things that caused it. we can't be brought down by that bubble. thank you, everybody. thank you. thank you. [ cheers and applause ] >> now he is officially done. we have bret baier, anchor of special report. chris stirewalt. carl cameron live in new hampshire following jeb bush. trump got in a lot of digs against him. keeping it fair and balanced, ed henry in d.c. with the latest on hillary clinton. texas governor rick perry, one of the presidential candidates. we'll find out if he's signed the pledge yet and if he's actually getting out of the race as trump said. let's start with bret baier. bret, why did he sign this? first thing he said was that the rnc is terrific. he hasn't said that for a while. he said he -- all he wanted was
fairness and that's why he signed it. he said it was because of the polls. >> he said basically that he's leading in you willall of these. now he says definitively he wants to run as a republican and win as a republican. he has -- he said that he has been treated fairly from the beginning and he felt it was time. as we talked about coming in, the real reason here is about ballot access. and some of these states that you have to get on and sign this pledge. and this is all part of it. what's interesting about donald trump -- first of all, there is why people love him. he takes every question. answers everything from kanye west to whatever. and he sits there and answers it, and he also knows every poll number of every state and every organization that's out with a new poll that he is leading in. >> yeah. he also eviscerates other candidates. he basically said jeb bush, just so you know, he's going to go out and put a bunch of negative
ads out there and all of it will be paid for by special interest groups. i want to remind everyone that i'm not taking any of that money. >> that's a huge line for him. in every speech he gives, in every press availability he gives, when he gets to the point that he's self-funded and that others are taking money from lobbyists and they're affected by the money and he used to be the guy who was paying the money to have the influence but this race he is self-funding. he always gets an applause line. he even got one today, people applauding that. he counters anybody who is running negative ads against him by saying they're being funded by all these people that want to have influence. it's a powerful message. >> so have we ever seen before, because before we went to trump we were talking to you about -- i was getting to the question about how maybe polls and the way we've done politics is going to be totally different this time around. and donald trump is one of the reasons. but have we totally gotten to a new way where he says, look, he almost tempts other candidates. come out, be negative against
me, and i'll take care of you. you know, we've kind of seen in the polls, take rand paul for example. he went up against him in the first debate, and he kind of evaporated. >> i will say that we have not seen the total unleashing of all of this money that may be coming against donald trump. and i don't know if this is a different candidate that maybe doesn't really get affected by negative ads. as much as others. you're right. he is -- he has access to all of these news shows. he gets on whenever he wants to get on. and he is -- you know, he holds the audience. it is something that i don't think we've ever seen before. i said it was a phenomena early on. i don't think it's stopped. i think we have a long way to go before the nomination, but he is clearly in it to win it. >> no doubt. people said with president obama he was sort of this celebrity, he had this aura and we'd never seen that before. this may be a whole new different thing. bret baier, we'll catch you tonight on the "specia